Jonathan Haidt - No Time Like the Present | Nudgestock 2024

[@elisenieuwe4649]

I'm 36 and been chronically online for the past 15 years and it ruined my brain as well. Crazy how much concentration and memory I lost and how I'm super inclined to go for short term satisfaction and rewards. So being born earlier isn't saying much. If you go online too much for long enough time, it'll be bad. I've seen people in their 50's change for the worse.

[@janelliot5643]

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[@moonlightray8493]

Jonathan Haidt and Rory Sutherland - two of my favourite people to listen to!

[@PClanner]

"We have over-protected our children in the real world, and under-protected them on the digital" Time is our nemisis here. To properly do anything, the amount of knowledge and time it takes to acquire proper protection in either world is more than we have time for, hence somethings always slips between the cracks. There are those that bank on you having attention deficit through either contrived misdirection or knowledge deficit and can trick you out of your accumulated wealth. Knowing these people exist and will do this is the first step in staying ahead of them, and how do we do this? Knowledge. Where do we acquire that knowledge? From social media. Maybe it should be the other way round, but the parents were not bought up to fear something they could only imagine.

[@morthim]

"who watches netflix once a week?" jaw dropping. i don't think i actually know anyone with a netflix subscription.

[@shmookins]

A great example of what he says is when an internet outage happens in the home for more than 30 min. Suddenly, everyone is connecting with each other. Chores are being done. Talking and normal human stuff happens. Real physical activities going on. Then when the internet is back up, everyone disappears. Nowadays, it feels like you live in a haunted house because although there are others in your household, nobody is really 'with you'. Everyone is staring at screens as apposed to looking at you and spending time with each other.

[@lilianarovegno4325]

my past❤

[@voices_vary]

One idea is to create technology-based controls on social media accounts (self-imposed or parent/guardian-imposed) that deny access during specific hours (e.g., 9AM - 4PM).

[@adamisherwood6708]

Not an insight but a confirmation. I’ve shared to my contact list on of course my iphone 😂

[@tar-yy3ub]

It's worth noting that whilst his argument is intuitive, Haidt's argument that social media is driving huge spikes in youth mental health is actually quite controversial and the published academic evidence for it is quite weak. There are many credible psychologists (who don't have TED talks) who think he's totally wrong. I myself am undecided 😅

[@elisenieuwe4649]

Hmm yes. It just seems to speed some things up, not cause them per se. I think our societies focus on being useful and efficient has to do with it. This mindset causes a lot of performance pressure in children and it started before we even had mobile phones. We're also chronically searching for happiness, even if that is unrealistic. Being bored and neutral is normal and healthy. The internet and social media seems to have spread the message faster, wider and more intense.

[@speedrunner9907]

How much stock do you own in social media companies?

[@henrytep8884]

@@speedrunner9907-10000 dollars

[@simonmackenzie6230]

Haidt has mentioned this in other talks I've watched. He points out that his critics have put forward no other plausible explanation for the data and he also responded to some other criticisms. So far Haidt seems most convincing. To be honest it's hard to argue that more opportunities for social comparison for teenage girls aren't going to cause problems. Even as a male in his 30s I found myself spending too much time thinking about something witty to say on social media.

[@zeroonetime]

Call it THE ETERNAL NOW the T.E.N. dimensions of Timing.

[@jonlittle5032]

Whilst I agree with much of what Haidt says (and preaches, let's be fair), I must point out he uses the same disingenuous technique that most social media providers use - the false clickbait. At the outset, he says, let's try something I haven't tried before, and then engages in a 'thought experiment combined with an audience poll. Two months ago, he did the same thing, multiple times, on Intelligence Squared - on the same topic - in Britain. Maybe that was a covert example of how social media is 'bad'?