OH NO, Another BAD MOLT!

[@DK-er1sy]

I assume her legs are like that because she can’t produce enough pressure to extend them. If she’s got a break in her carapace, when she tries to pump hemolymph into her legs, it probably loses pressure so she can’t extend them properly. Poor girl, I’m sorry Petco :(

[@Nikiraider]

But now there is the question. How did she break her carapace ? 🤔

[@Jeremiah_Johnson139]

​@@NikiraiderProbably nothing more than a genetic flaw.

[@shaunacorrigan9372]

​@@NikiraiderMolting is always risky, even under the best conditions. Sometimes things go wrong without ever knowing why🤷‍♀️

[@mattwurst1339]

Yes that is the reason. You can see also in the abdomen there is hemolymph missing. Very Sad!

[@Dante-ly666]

I think alot of newer people in the community that this happens which is unfortunate. Alot of people forget that bad molts often happen more in the wild than in captivity and we just cannot interfere with this delicate process. Please don't scream at creators unless they are dismantling a tarantula during the process. This happens it's not unusual for a tarantula or true spider to molt and the that molt becomes a bad one.

[@Chickenandfriends-dj4vt]

Thankyou Petko for showing these videos as well as the good ones. At least as a community we can maybe discover why these things happen from time to time and some of us can hopefully avoid the same issues . Great channel mate!

[@dawnhowell7559]

You are such a caring creature keeper, I'm so glad you show when bad events happen it let's people who are considering the hobby know all sides. I am addicted to your channel you always cheer me up! 😂

[@advertisingbreak8204]

I doubt that enclosure humidity is related to the issue. It is usually not recommended to mist an enclosure to help tarantulas molt. What matters is that the tarantula gets enough hydration before they start the molting process.

[@rachellehenson5568]

Yes!! 💯 this comment!! They have to be hydrated internally. Humidity in enclosure doesn’t matter.

[@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL]

Exactly ! 💯💯💯💯💯

[@virtuosoification]

yes yes yes omg god yes a constant water supply so they can drink when they know its time to change clothes they cant really warn us ! well ok ok some make little bassinets and its really freeking cute males do this too for other reasons lol my two kinda stopped as they got bigger tho

[@Spooder1989]

Yes it’s true the spider can’t get moisture from the air, but Humidity affects the rate at which a tarantula loses moisture. It probably also affects the drying rate of the fluids produced by the spider during a molt. It is probable that the new carapace dried too soon, and became fragile. It’s also possible that the fluids dried too soon, before the old carapace was completely separated, causing it to stick to the new one, and eventually causing to rupture.

[@IllusionQueen4Eva]

Before the molting process? As in like, the food they ate and the water they drank before that? I've been feeding mine superworms, but she hasn't really been drinking water, because she blocked the entrance to her coconut hide with substrate and won't come out to drink from her dish... All I can really do is to water and mist the substrate around the hide and hope for the best...

[@darkmido6087]

Guys, mist or no mist, when you have 100+ tarantula, it happens...

[@mixtaperadio]

psssst it happens allllllllll the time for him. don't forget all the blocked poops also!

[@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL]

I think its not good to have tooo much🕷 , you can say what you want i think you can not take the same good care with 100 tarantula impossible for that i will never buy to much and take a better care! But yes this can happen sometimes

[@darkmido6087]

@@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL you are right, but thats how most hobby tarantulas keepers are. Have over 100+ T's... and indeed they cant provide 100% for them all.

[@ballsofnoxus4702]

yes. at that point it is just a statistical certainty

[@egzy7859]

I say keep 1 per species if you really have the nick of collecting tarantula. Having multiple specimens, isn't a hobby but a hoarding problem.

[@machellelowry9404]

I'm sorry about the molt issue. You always do a great job, Petko. Thank you for creating great educational content as well.

[@kuceracm]

My pumpkin patch had a bad molt like this. She molted successfully but then it's like she failed to harden completely and her legs were bent strangely just like this. I kept her enclosure plenty humid and she had a water source. I also can't really explain what happened. I left her alone for a couple of days hoping she would sort herself out and recover but unfortunately she died 😔

[@maryjodennis5688]

This is such a passionate yet sad video. You do whatever's necessary to help your Dark Den. Pets dying is so fundamental in care, compassion and learning from death. Thank you Petko for your videos and cool perspective on spiders.

[@Ksweetpea]

The saying in farming/ranching is "if you have livestock, you also have dead stock" and I think this extends to hobby keeping so many animals. When you have 100+ Ts sometimes something will go wrong and unfortunately that's just how it is. You give them the best chances to survive and then it's up to the animal to live

[@australiancarnivores]

That's literally what happened with my fireback huntsman! It fell while moulting onto the wood hide and the carapace ruptured

[@stephenwinter8892]

Greetings from Canada thanks for sharing this video and I'm sorry for the recent event of the tarantula molt not going to plan and obviously being an expert the freezer would end her suffering 😮

[@youngchristopher14]

Just a thought about the webbing in the small enclosure. When I kept spiders as pets as a kid, to prevent them from webbing the lid I would always keep the containers upside down with the lid on the bottom. Since they normally web the top I could safely turn the container and drop food into their web without destroying it. Maybe an idea for you moving forward. Would need to affix the enclosure decorations in a way that it wouldnt move or spill though. Hope you can come up with something.

[@Khornate888]

It's just statistics. When you have that many pets, unfortunate things can happen. It's happened to me with Katydids, with some having bad moults.

[@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL]

Yes but i think also that wenn you have to much tarantula it's impossible to provide really good care to all...

[@Khornate888]

@@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL I'd agree with you, if we were about pets like dogs or cats, but tarantulas really don't need that much care, people overestimate that. So long as you give them the right kind of enclosure, with the right setup, all you need to do is feed them.

[@Khornate888]

@@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL No, not all animals are the same. Cats or dogs have a much higher requirement than a tarantula. Cats and dogs also need attention, while a tarantula wants nothing to do with you. It's content sitting in it's borrow, or behind a bit of corkbark. It's not giving less care, it's giving the animal what it wants, which doesn't involve you handling, or bothering it. Handling tarantulas is a bad idea, because if the tarantula falls, it might die.

[@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL]

​​@@Khornate888 omg....I'm not talking to you about petting a tarantula or playing ball with it, I'm talking to you about simply taking basic care of it and if you have 100 of them you can't properly, period. In fact I'm just trying to make you understand that this guy doesn't even give them water available which is the main thing for any living being....

[@shaynsse6259]

​@@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL You'r 100% right

[@TarantulaRookie]

I have had a couple where I had to remove a few legs. H pulchripes lost 6 legs, managed to get them to molt and grew all 6 back, molted again, all ok… then got stuck again, lost one leg. Sometimes spiders are weird. I’ve had a rufus bad molt and a mikumi have the worst molt ever - that one passed, the rufus is still fighting. As a keeper it’s horrible to experience, and anyone with empathy will feel upset experiencing this. I wouldn’t wish this experience on anyone

[@virtuosoification]

i am so glad you were able to make it work ! that its sorta stopping the uh emotions i fought this was and lost not even my spider still hurt immensely helps to read you story

[@screeaveDestination]

It's not weird, it's natural selection.

[@emmajessop1376]

Mine is a younger spider and it's last molt was a problem. It had a problem with it's leg and finally it lost 3 legs and is coping well and I am hoping it's next molt will be ok, and it gets it's legs back 😢

[@ez_ec_lemons96]

Sorry for your loss, that’s a huge bummer for sure

[@Ricantarantulaboss]

U did time laps and got fresh cut😅

[@sagestaymagical7487]

I lost a GBB to a bad molt similar to that. Except all it's legs were messed up and for some reason it never flipped on it's back. The molt before that was rough on it too. I wondered if it molted too soon because of the messed up legs, like maybe they weren't done? I don't know but it was sad to watch

[@wootejoimage]

I'll bet that something cut or weakened the shell and while she was pumping up her legs it gave and squished out her insides.

[@tiffanyvoerman]

Sorry for your loss Petko 😢

[@virtuosoification]

oh ive been meaning to comment for along time ive not been well and ive been really fn sad last long time . ANYWAYS i am so glad to see you handle tarantuals now ! i raised all of mine from fingernail sized so i know them they are so docile its unreal . the fear stopped when i saved a KING BABOON going to lunch permanently with his mixmatched species of a mate . not my idea not my spiders anyways s he was not only bigger stronger and meaner but was also not into him and he bolted up the side and was about to fall to another death . so im smart right yup well i grabbed him with bare hands scooped him up and palmed him until he mellowed a bit my "friend" asks uh why are you hyperventilating ? keep in mind i KNOW how much in danger i am HOLY FUK AM I LUKKY right ? this was as big as king bab kin get and he was ornery didnt like me much here i am mashing his fangs into my wet sweaty nervous palm JOY , i saved his butt we hung out for about and hour or maybe two he used me as a jungle as i calmed down . while i stayed at that shithole house that king babb an i were buds for life that was were my fear of tarantulas and handling them completely stopped and changed to just MAD respect . ive handled spiders all my life in canuckistania thats not all that scary i am lukky that i have the gift that i can handle tarantulas and im so glad to see you able to feel that was well for the people that dont get it or think that its clout chasing or like some kinda weird rush or wahtev they think . i dont know what it is or what it takes one thing i have learned if you show disgust or fear or a lack of understanding dont bother trying youll be on the list the ones that got bit. wasps are quite similar show them fear or aggression theyll come after you lol wasp nibbles on the fingertips kinda tickles i am now a wasp whisper-er working on hornets they still kinda freek me out hard to trust them

[@virtuosoification]

somebody read this ? thanks!

[@Gusbusbus]

Thanks for the upload

[@Ricantarantulaboss]

I’m sorry to go threw that I try water mines or mist it once a week

[@reptiletailz108]

Sorry for ur spood loss! I thought I may have lost my h pulcripes she disappeared and I was afraid maybe I had left the lid open and she got out of she passed o hadn't seen her and kept seeing loose roaches and boy o boy did I feel so bad when I half dug her up and she had recently moulted I felt so bad thankfully she is ok and alive but oddly enough the part of her legs that was normally a beautiful steel blue color is like a dark grey idk if it has something to do with me digging her up almost right after her moult

[@LuminarySol]

It feels like some people come here specifically to bash Petko and don't even watch the video. He very clearly mentions this T had a water dish in the first 2 minutes of the video, so obviously it wasn't the lack of water dish...

[@Macrobuthus]

Any scorpion videos coming up?

[@mojoszoo]

im sorry for your loss ❤️

[@csababalla4613]

Is there something hidden in the substrate? Maybe?

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Is there a way to prevent this tragic issue?

[@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL]

Yes give your tarentula water dishes *( and preferably with water in it)

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

@@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIAL good tip, so it is a mix of usage and a good way to counter this.

[@jdssurf]

@@FLUFFYNINJAOFFICIALyou see it had an injury right

[@constantinyanicostas4664]

May I suggest a possibility. As a result of the wound, the shell was no longer airtight. So, after the molt, the tarantula was unable to properly inflate with air its body before the shell hardens.

[@r1verman]

So sorry about the bad molt. Love your videos here in Ohio.

[@knalltrogge739]

Aww man that sucks. I have also lost some Ts to bad molts but have never seen an injury like this. Might still be a little too dry enclosure but it can also happen randomly. Especially with big Ts

[@JangGaming]

It's sad to see her struggle like this...

[@MOONOVERMIAMI]

Hello great video information sorry about the tarantula Petcko

[@casitube22]

Awe not the geniculata😢

[@jamiehoney9889]

I know its sad but u should help her on her way.😢

[@nataliepowell4806]

I love your channel but this is why I will never keep more than 30 T’s, a hobby soon can turn into an obsession. I have time and with 27 it’s easy to maintain my enclosures. Everyone’s water is topped up daily when it’s hot weather, and all bowls washed weekly. I keep a damper side of ALL my enclosures too.

[@ben_326]

Hey Petko a bit out of context but i‘ve got a cool video idea. Do you know those spinning wheel videos? I thought maybe you could do this with an enclosure, where you spin which tarantula, substrate, decoration and other stuff gets in there and maybe it turns out really nice!!

[@natasakozjak3366]

ou nou!! is that mine tarantuly? :(

[@deniserobinson8294]

So sorry.

[@venomiel]

that mist on your lens is fungus. you need to store your lenses in a dry place, or risk getting fungus inside. it's totally fixable tho, just take it to your nearest camera repair shop.

[@ChantalsCritters]

Great video

[@VectorxMan]

Wooo geckos in junglearium!!!

[@mariestubbs4606]

Great vid n so sorry for your loss ...

[@lacatrina3251]

RIP puar tarantula

[@tomb8077]

maybe the nervous system is damaged. :( idk but it just looks like the equivalent of spinal damage or something (I'm clearly not an expert lol)

[@richardbriansmith8562]

Awesome Video Dark Den🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@casitube22]

Poor Petko hes having so many annoying issues for himself.First the molt issue,the feeding babies and then the camera lense fogged up smh The life of an awesome youtuber !!!!

[@Owlways-sleepy]

Having two tarantulas have bad molts with water dishes doesnt = 100% disapprove that water dishes are helpful for tarantulas. That’s not how science works! I am sorry the tarantula molted poorly though. With any spiders that prefer to web the top of enclosures you should always get a front opening enclosure OR one that comes apart near the middle area (see jumping spider enclosures)

[@calliew311]

Is this a wet molt?

[@wiezel16204]

what is actual humidity in room ?

[@samanthageach3146]

Having a water dish doesn't help if it's empty. Sorry for your loss.

[@V.I.C.]

How come those fruit flies dont just fly away? Like out that cup? All the fruit flies i have seen like in my house they fly everywhere! Lol

[@humanbeing8283]

There are some flightless fruit flies. They still have wings but are not able to fly. Those are the ones he gets to feed his frogs and small lizards.

[@trueaussieray9093]

Poor burger doesn't know there is flightless fruit flies

[@Dante-ly666]

They are flightless fruit flies that cannot fly, you get two options when you buy from breeders. He gets the flightless fruitflies

[@Mike-ly9qi]

Dude despite some of the comments. I know this sucks. Sorry for your loss.

[@TheGrimmreep]

Really looks like her heart is beating fast in the abdomen

[@shadowtriggers5443]

I don’t believe there’s anything you can realistically do to prevent it from ever happening sadly just part of life

[@rachellehenson5568]

She needs water. You need to either wet substrate around her or flip her over and use a syringe to drop water in her mouthparts. I’ve had to do that before. The dark abdomen also reminds me of a “wet” molt. That may have been what happened honestly. Please give her water and just keep an eye on her.

[@TheMelbie]

She didnt make it 😔

[@screeaveDestination]

If the carapace is broken, you can't do anything! The entire nervous system is destroyed!

[@angrywulf6712]

I would say keep an eye on all of your animals. We did just have a very big solar storm hit us not long ago which might actually be around when this happened. After the night with the Auroras here in the states. I have a strange rash on my inner elbow, animals just last night went back to normal. Birds chirping at midnight as if it's 6am. Foxes roaming around in day light which could be a coincidence. They're healthy. The den is near my place. Regardless animals have been weird in general. And if I can find the spider outside my home again I believe it was a failed molt as well it was in the same position for a few days. I forgot to look for it today. I'm just saying. Be aware of any possibility in order to at least try and prevent the negatives

[@edwardmullins2716]

her leg broke off when you poked her

[@casitube22]

Maybe put plastic over the top to keep humidity in better, like Exotic Lair does

[@neneqtegusta]

Her enclosure doesn't have enough substrate. Tarantulas like to climb the walls sometimes. Maybe she had a fall prior to her molt and that caused the rupture.

[@chlordiazepoxide]

not always. I've never had one of my terrestrial tarantulas climb the walls and I have 7 of those. Climbing behaviour is far more common with Arboreals. That amount of substrate is good for a terrestrial.

[@dijax7863]

I wonder if a drop of some type of hardening paste on the wound would have sealed it. There are several immediate epoxies that shouldn't get inside the T, but cure on the surface. The issue would be, how fast it hardened and not flow off onto a leg.

[@SteveMcT]

Are you using any pesticides outside or flea treatment on a cat or dog. If it's on your hands when you feed, etc... chemicals will cause molting issues. Could also be a coincidence.

[@bronykingamethystrain5676]

Have you tried the dish soap method? Thats what Exotics Lair used to put down one of his Tarantulas.

[@nataliepowell4806]

That’s brutal too, apparently a horrible way to die

[@asap1224]

Should have left her be before freezing but not my tarantula 🤦

[@amysweb4815]

Freezing isn’t the kindest way to euthanize anymore

[@izzuou]

what is recommended now?

[@amysweb4815]

@iscmpn I'm not actually sure the quickest way is to drop something heavy on it but I don't recommend it as if you get it wrong it will cause more pain. Putting in the freezer it has been suggested actually could cause pain and discomfort

[@twistedsi33]

Freezing is what they recommend

[@virtuosoification]

this brought out such a traumatic memory for me the first i saw this i didnt realize it was this bad of a thing i was still new to tarantulas but not spiders , the poor girl was stuck pretty similar to yours but almost worse (this wasnt my spider i was babysitting the cretins poorly cared for tarantulas this was a moisture issue unlike yours or at least i think it was ) so i discovered the horror and in horror imagined what that felt like and after a few i put myself to ok fine ill get her out then and began trying to break away what was disabling her at least shit that was hard to deal with everything was out just some of the lower segments were fused and some legs didnt have ends totally filled out she could still eat i later resolved also realizing soon after thats not ok i at least believe they are smart enough to know they arent mobile . fuckin hell that was hard to deal with R>I>P> to her and yours they can slaughter many crix and roaches in the underworld . p.s. i am alot more intelligent that i can show at the moment about tarantulas had them for 20 years now i am just having emotions ..

[@virtuosoification]

somebody read this ? thanks!

[@gorgha3988]

I'm by no means an expert here, but from what I've seen I think water dish or no it could still be a humidity issue. Perhaps the enclosure needed to be misted more often. The keepers I see that quite frequently mist and/or "flood" the enclosures don't seem to have bad molts very often if at all and that enclosure looked pretty dry.

[@mixtaperadio]

you sir are absolutely correct! petko has been warned numerous times by many people and he still won't listen or doesn't give a crud.

[@u4ia_fubar_75]

​@@mixtaperadio what are you talking about? He has been breeding spiders for over eight years and he has two bad malts and people are saying - "he doesn't know what he's doing". Obviously he does know what he's doing or he would have a hell of a lot more spiders dying.

[@MSusername69]

He has said multiple times and even said it in this video. He keeps tons of tarantulas and mists them the same way for many many years and this has only happened a few times. So I think it would fall under your "don't seem to have bad molts very often".

[@bellowick]

@@mixtaperadio Because there's no science behind it. For every instance of a T dying in a overly dry enclosure, there are an equal amount of them dying in humid enclosures. If you owned 100+ dogs, some of them are bound to become ill with something at some point. That doesn't necessarily make you a bad owner, it is just statistically more likely for something to go wrong when you have several of the animal. Tarantulas show when they are stressed, right? So if the environment was not correct for them (ie, not enough or too much humidity), they would show their stress long before a failed molt even has the chance to occur. We don't know if this tarantula was showing stress prior to the molt and it is only petko who knows with 100% certainty. Final thought, the average life expectancy of a human was lower BEFORE we were educated on various ailments, what causes them and having the right equipment to safely cure said ailments. The same applies here, until we know what causes ailments in tarantulas, the telltale signs of the ailment and how to deal with the ailement, we cannot expect tarantulas to live ailment free in captivity. If the tarantula appears to be comfortable inside of their enclosure and they fail a molt, it is an fatal incident, not poor keeping.

[@sortfaar3]

@@bellowick also regarding the stress part. there have been previous cases of T's having issues in the dark den where they start behaving differently (i assume this is what you refer to as stress), and petko have made videos regarding these odd changes in behaviour. what i'm trying to say is that he has experienced these changes and have shared them with us regardless of if its a positive or a negative change. sometimes it is to ask us for help in case there are somebody with more knowledge and/or experience. Petko seems to me like a guy that cares for his pets and does neccessary research, and i'd like to think that cheeps (is he a crested gecko?), thor (leopard gecko i think) and 8 (his turtle) proves this to a certain degree. Felix and despacito both had genetic issues if i recall correctly and petko voiced his sadness and frustrations regarding the topic, but we have heard nothing regarding Cheeps, Thor or 8 simply because there is nothing to show. they are healthy, and they don't enjoy being on camera (well.. 8 is probably in the garden somewhere having the time of his life) and if they did enjoy being on camera then they'd likely get the same treatment as despa regarding enclosures.

[@trueaussieray9093]

Clean your filters to your heating/ air conditioner, looks like nematode lumps

[@gretacernulyte2675]

Interesting. I wonder what Petko thinks does it makes really diferences?

[@trueaussieray9093]

@@gretacernulyte2675 no you're right he doesn't like nor listen to Australians. Been in this situation many times before with petko and advice. And as for my advice.. well its exactly the same as a air filter for your vehicle..

[@Testsaatchi]

Rapture.

[@deewhitcha6014]

sorry about your genic!

[@bobdrooples]

Please don't fridge or freezer imberts or other animals for that matter. Make it quick and definite. You wouldn't leave your old cat or dog alone with just the vet if the time ever came where a decision had to be made(or i hope you wouldn't). Don't hide them away in the fridge or freezer, you're just hiding them away from your sight. The only reason not to squish is because you want an intact specimen for taxidermy... and you don't care about any suffering.

[@lizg7221]

For my own mental health I would not be able to squish my tarantula 🥲

[@darcystcorner2580]

@@lizg7221unfortunately it is the kindest thing to do. They can actually feel their body crystallizing during the freezing process which is more horrible than just squishing it.

[@matowakan]

@@darcystcorner2580 thats why you go fridge and then freezer, the fridge slows down their metabolism and puts them to sleep

[@darcystcorner2580]

@@matowakan I wouldn’t say it puts them to sleep. Have you ever received a tarantula that was delayed in winter with no heat pack? There is nothing kind about that, they still feel discomfort until they are almost dead. Then they finish dying as they freeze

[@thereptilorian]

Came here to ask about this as I've also heard freezing can be extremely painful. Is there a way to pith a spider?

[@Mudring76]

Water dish. But no water. The other bad molt had dish no water either.

[@jdssurf]

clearly you didn't listen to the video

[@Mudring76]

Clearly I did ​@@jdssurf

[@jdssurf]

@@Mudring76 he wets down the enclosures every sunday and gives water.........that's what he said in the video, no way a tarantula is having that problem in that case. These things just happen sometimes.

[@Mudring76]

@@jdssurf whatever mine all have water dishes since 1990 and constant supply of water not just misting sorry if I insulted you or whoever but do what you like not my collection. Do you drink only every Sunday? And what if you aren't thirsty on Sunday so you wait til next Sunday?

[@jdssurf]

@@Mudring76 i'm not a tarantula, and i also don't get tons of moisture just from drinking my food like a tarantula, and he's kept 1000s of tarantulas and this has happend less than 10 times or less, and other ppl who do have water and moistened soil have had this happen, it's also happened to me in an enclosure with water provided........so just think your over the top and making claims you can't prove

[@patrickpine4831]

Sorry bout the spider.

[@timmytucman5114]

This is so sad. I only have four tarantulas, and one of them molts in the weirdest corners behind her hide. She has plenty of clear space and her hide is big enough. So i don't think there is anything you could have done. Not your fault, this is how nature goes.

[@snakekidJD]

You needed to give her water and put her in a sterile enclosure. She lost fluides due to the injury and you needed to replace that fluid ASAP. Giving her water with a syringe or straw could have helped.

[@CaptainU7]

Another bad molt from the guy who doesn't hydrate his tarantulas... What a surprise!

[@Jeremiah_Johnson139]

Really sad. I'd hate to see her suffer for her last hours of life. Refrigeration seems like the most humane way for her.

[@avanelletheclockfriend2515]

Freezing isn't actually humane due to how slow the process is; it just extends the time spent suffering while adding even more stress. The idea that "spiders get cold in nature so it just triggers hibernation mode" doesn't take into account that there is more to hibernation than just temperature(there are various other stimuli that trigger it), so the spider isn't going to have the same chemical signals going on, or exhibit the same behaviors. It'll just understand on some basic level "it is too cold I need to go somewhere not cold or I will die", rather than just going to sleep, effectively being aware that it's dying but unable to do anything about it. It's generally agreed that crushing(or piercing, like how you humanely dispatch lobsters and crabs) or ammonia poisoning are better. The former is best in terms of being the fastest and causing the least amount of suffering. The latter is slower but better for preservation and still faster than freezing or asphyxiation.

[@4dogs677]

I have 30 Ts and snakes every evening I make sure they have water and have seen them drinking so many times. I don’t see why you can’t give them water in a bowl if you cannot provide this because you collection is to big then that’s the own fault It’s also no good having a water dish if it’s empty

[@twistedsi33]

Not okay with this- not at all- hoarding is NOT OKAY- this happens toooooo much in this hobby when you have HUNDREDS! Breaks my heart bc of the MANY they die due to neglect bc one has over a hundred 😢

[@edwardmullins2716]

any news on your show ban drama

[@bobdrooples]

Wha? Pray tell.

[@edwardmullins2716]

@@bobdrooples some german show he got banned from and the owner made up lies to start drama

[@astrogumbie2399]

You may be getting to much moisture8x due to how the spider was soft like mush, I think with the way lens did that it might be exactly that.