'OH PLEASE!': Rogan & Bill Maher DEBATE Trump v Biden | The Kyle Kulinski Show

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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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[@tahlghitter-kalsi7057]

can biden be both sleepy joe and woke?

[@jacobunderwood4957]

Facists' political opponents are always both incompetent and all-powerful. According to Jordan Peterson, if there's a person who believes a thing, that thing is technically a truth.

[@arturo0727]

Oh like that quote, I'm gonna use it later. 🫡😅

[@kain9407]

No. Biden is not woke in any sense of the word. He's not liberal. He's not left leaning. He's a centrist conservative.

[@sevensages5279]

Rogan use to joke about trump using speed! 🤔

[@Gardosunron]

Sleep Woken

[@moasto02]

Lol Joe saying " well I just don't like when they compare them". DUDE, ITS A FUCKING ELECTION.

[@rmmx77]

Yea and Biden is worse

[@smallpseudonym2844]

@@rmmx77 as fucking if.

[@bobbafett1849]

​@@rmmx77worse than Benedict Gump who SAID he'd do away with the Constitution? puh leeeze

[@synchronium24]

@@rmmx77 🤡

[@nickwall2288]

Ignoring reality makes you a republican

[@jaidev777]

Year 0: "What he did was inexcusable!" Year 1: "What he did was unthinkable." Year 2: "What he did was controversial." Year 3: "I can see how what he did might seem questionable." Year 4: "But what is a woman?"

[@alhernandezsantana212]

😂 This is pure gold.. thank you for coming up with a pitch perfect sum of 4+ years!

[@jaidev777]

@@alhernandezsantana212 Thanks it's not meant to be a precise detailed historical account, just an illustration of what I find of too many Americans to be shockingly complacent, uncritically thoughtful and politically myopic.

[@555salt]

What kind of straw man you been fighting with lol

[@redaderoua8816]

"Have you tried to steel man his position?" 😂 I just cant believe the absurdity of this dude, the obvious bias towards the right by being the most charitable a person can ever be to an obvious neo facist while also endlessly bashing and critizing biden and the left.

[@yourmother2739]

Biden is not left. He is a neo liberal and that is a problem.

[@tjstarr2960]

Joe Rogan is just a moron. He thinks if Trump believes he won the election, then everything Trump did after that (including an armed takeover of the Capitol Building) is justified. And Rogan definitely hasn't been paying attention to any of the court cases, because every district that Republicans said were "suspicious" were thrown out of court for having no evidence. The Republican voters just "felt" like Trump won, and if Trump "felt" like he won, that is good enough for Rogan. If Rogan thought about it for half a second, he would realize that he can't really be in favor of democracy if he is okay wit a loud armed minority trying to take over the government, the same way dictators like Hitler came into power. But Rogan has a bunch of friends who are Republicans, and they seem like pretty smart/good guys to him, so he can't reconcile that with the fact that the majority of Republicans still support Trump.

[@gormeroth]

Bingo!

[@beefandbarley]

And isn't saying "steel man his position" the biggest sign of a performative jerk these days?

[@letsomethingshine]

When dumb people use steelmaning out of its proper place, yes. Steel manning was about trying to avoid strawmanning during a back and forth debate, not about assuming the best about an idol and trying to get your opponent to assume the best about your idol as well, which Rogan is willing to do for TRE45ON Trump but not sleepy woke conservative Democrat Biden.

[@JerroldKavanagh]

Joe Rogan saying Trump didn't visibly age shows how naive he is. Trump doesn't leave his bedroom without sitting for a 2 hour make-up/spray tan session.

[@A_Derpy_NINJA]

Biden looks like he’s about to die any day now, trump does not.

[@Gregorypeckory]

The most generous assessment of Joe Rogan is that he's a complete moron. A less generous but more accurate assessment is that he figured out 100 million was more important to him than the lives of all the people who followed his idiotic COVID disinformation and believed it, and died as a direct result of being stupid enough to believe Joe Rogan.

[@jamesscully529]

You have to work hard to get worn out as president. Mr Orange didn't show up in the oval until at noon least, and spent more time golfing. He wasn't president. He was a squatter in the White House who wasn't qualified to be there.

[@jirkazalabak1514]

Yeah, but he´s been doing that for years, even before he became POTUS. If someone visibly ages, not even the best make-up in the world can cover it up. There is a reason why Trump didn´t age as much. He didn´t WORK as much as the other guys. He reportedly watched TV until 10 a.m. or even later before starting any work at all, and had spent more time at the golf resorts than any other president in modern history.

[@caroljo420]

Add to that that he didn't do any work. Presidents who appear to have aged took the job seriously and were under tremendous stress. The orange turd didn't take it seriously AT ALL.

[@jeffgojail]

Listening to Kyle call Bill Maher smarmy and smug is like listening to Keith Richards call someone a drug addict

[@ErikWithBrain]

Guarantee you Joe will "forget" these salient points about Trump the next time he's smoking cigars with another conservative guest.

[@justatiger6268]

Joe Rogan is now worse than Bill Maher. Let that sink in.

[@richardlegrand4697]

Joe has been low key signal boosting trump for years

[@michelebella677]

Low key? He’s a complete sycophant.

[@jordanalexander1592]

​@@michelebella677yikes lol...

[@Wadzillia]

I don't know about that. He was definitely a Bernie Bro at one time.

[@letsomethingshine]

Then once he had the Bernie bros he wanted wrapped around his finger, he realized he likes more passive income money for himself just for being an actor.

[@pycellesbeard9728]

Or.....So many Nut bags moved so far left they started considering Rogan, Obama and Maher Right Wing, We're talking water heads who think all someone has to do to be a woman is say "I'm a woman"🤣 We literally had a Libtard congressmen say out loud at a oongressional hearing that Mike Tyson Should be able to fight Women if he says He's a Woman😂 Yes YOU'RE the sane ones!!!

[@metsgiantsfan333]

"As smug and smarmy and annoying as he is, as insufferable as his personality is, I think he makes a good case." - Kyle Kulinski on Bill Maher

[@victorgauzza9253]

The nail in the coffin for Bill is towards the end when he said that Trump is a malignant narcissist. He is so right. It's Trump's narcissism that makes him behave the way he does. He has a horrible personality disorder that puts his mind in a constant loop of chaos and there is no cure or treatment for it.

[@C_mao]

And this condition makes him waaay worse than Biden. And, Biden is a lot sharper than people realize.

[@LS-yp1ne]

​@C_mao problem is Biden is part of the establishment

[@Dodgerzden]

I've lost all respect for Rogan. He's proven himself to be a flag in the wind. Yeah, they both lie, but any rational mind would see that the amount of lying isn't even close. Trump is the most prolific liar in modern history.

[@Navy35]

But listen to all these simps saying well Trump lies more! Kyle even said that Biden at any moment might drop a racist slur but he’s still better than that racist Trump? That’s like saying Hitler is better than Stalin or chairman Mao because he killed less people. Your best argument is Biden is not Trump? Grow a pair of balls and vote for someone you could have a good conscience about

[@masta_blind7131]

Shitlib logic

[@thebigpicture2032]

Yeah, all the hits to the head are start to take their toll.

[@furiousapplesack]

False equivalence, the unthinking man's refuge.

[@thehumanity0]

Yeah this ain't no "average Joe" dumb misinformed take anymore, this is just complete lack of common sense.

[@vraisairs9201]

Joe Rohan’s mind has melted so much over the past 8 years Edit: Thank you for the LOTR jokes 😂Honestly hilarious

[@miahsaint-georges]

And there wasn't much to melt to begin with

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

Hes smarter then Kyle

[@teishapainter7953]

*than@@dr.wolfstar1765

[@rmmx77]

More like Bill Maher. TDS has gone to the roof with that guy.

[@JimBob-jr5up]

Id say Rogan has been pretty consistent. But, who cares?

[@kattmeating8315]

First bill mahr segment I actually enjoyed in years 😂

[@naystercobear9576]

My problem with joe Rogan is he used to be independent minded but over the last few years he turned into a far right winger spewing their lying nonsense.

[@gregorsamsa1364]

It wasn't that he used to be an independent minded critical thinker, it's just that he wasn't so absurdly rich and powerful back then

[@RC-hv1yx]

No he wasn’t. The guy was always susceptible to conspiracy theories and a sucker for empty populist rhetoric. The only difference now is that he’s far richer and more insulated.

[@vinando9568]

That’s because Joe woke up and saw the light!

[@vinando9568]

That’s funny. That’s what I love about him

[@HH-jg4ju]

Facts

[@BeefyBacardi]

Feels like I'm watching an alternate universe where Bill Maher is based.

[@georgenelson8284]

He was based back in the day. But went full boomer after 2016.

[@blueguise23]

Feels like I'm watching the real world when I'm watching him instead of the fake world we live in now.

[@leonparham2105]

[@roddyboethius1722]

His woke talk is pathetic. Desperate to get Magas to watch him

[@roddyboethius1722]

@@georgenelson8284 never go full Boomer

[@vehnashur2771]

Not a fan of Bill Maher anymore but, he is right. He also has enough status that he doesn't have to get on his knees for Joe Rogan.

[@TangoNevada]

That's a big difference between Bill and many other guests. Many others are just sycophants and looking for a rise in the exposure when on Rogan. So when Joe says something, they are like "Yeah, wow. that's so cool. I never thought of that". Etc.

[@kellen5545]

That's most because Maher is close to as successful as Rogan is. Maher's built his success over multiple decades while Rogan got hell lucky.

[@leonparham2105]

ME2

[@TangoNevada]

@@kellen5545 I know. That was the entire point.

[@Mia51387]

I can’t believe Bill isn’t pushing for Kennedy. Why are we wasting time going on about two losers ( Trump and Biden) when we have a younger, passionate, intelligent ( I could go on …) man like Kennedy. I haven’t heard anyone speak that gave me hope for bringing back this country in years and I mean about fifty. What is wrong with people.

[@larsonpark3819]

What's frustrating about people like Joe Rogan is that he has no counter-argument to Bill Maher's points, but I guarantee the next day, he went on with the same opinions he had before. And he has the most popular podcast in the country.

[@aaronbeaubaron16]

So true

[@jesseward9561]

I just watched the interview. I think Joe just didn't want to argue with him cause he knew it wouldn't do any good.

[@trevorrochon6983]

⁠@@jesseward9561 no you can’t argue with bill. He’s got blinders on for his hatred. It’s called dogma you can’t argue with dogmatic people. His argument of stupid crazy and is a criminal about trump Biden is all of the above. Not to mention his crack head son

[@dannyspitzer1267]

The fact that Toe Rogan has the most popular podcast shows that we're living in Idiocracy

[@ryanb9304]

Toe Rogan....😆🤣😆🤣👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@The_universal_cynic]

The fact that you Joe Rogan haters are somehow even more obnoxious than Joe Rogan. Fanboys is all the proof of I need. Why nobody wants the Democrats and control because you're all a bunch of oversensitive yuppies you just can't let anybody have fun.

[@photosynthesis69]

It used to be really good tho. He would have all types of scientists or experts on. I genuinely used to learn things from or get inspired by the guests he would have on there. I don’t really remember it being political before 2020 give or take. So even if his political views changed or whatever, that audience he built up over years of having a good show doesn’t just go away. Just my take

[@The_universal_cynic]

@@mikeypoop after taking a look at your channel, I'd say at least Joe rogan's show is entertaining.

[@pink_electra]

​@@photosynthesis69 I agree with you. I never missed an episode up until a couple of years ago. I miss when he would have comedians on for 3 hr benders and sober October.

[@Roxasthesupersaiyan]

This is probably the first time in years that Rogans been called out on his show, god knows Kyle would never call him out like this.

[@Magdalena8008s]

Kyle has called Rogan out many times. Are you that ignorant or just just a troll?

[@synchronium24]

Yep, as much as Maher tends to play softball with right wing guests, he's far more willing than Kyle to call out Rogan's false equivalencies.

[@Strings-jg2to]

Joe does need to be called out. People treat him as someone who knows everything.

[@123rockfan]

Yeah it was beyond frustrating to see how Kyle pushed back on Rogan about Desantis. It was really weak

[@Bickle121]

@@123rockfanyeah he literally waited until the end of the pod to meekly ask “can I try and persuade you about desantis” was pathetic

[@jupitermoongauge4055]

I'm not entirely sure that Biden's cognitive decline is happening at a faster rate than weed addled Rogans. I would also say that Biden's ability to remember complex facts and statistics during debates and speeches is more impressive than Rogans bumbling through his opinionated and light on facts shows

[@davidbrick6325]

Joe Rogan is a guy who has long struck me as so open-minded that his brain fell out.

[@phiksit]

I imagine he'd still vote for Trump and justify it with some stupid rational.

[@TimesFM4532]

@@phiksittbf he voted Bernie but he’s spent to much time with conspiracy nuts

[@thischannelhasdied511]

DONT SAY THAT ABOUT HIM, NOW BEND OVER

[@nickphaux]

You should hear him speak about Russia 😅 🍆🚴‍♂️

[@charlesljones2454]

I had more respect for bill Maher before he bought into the woke crap.

[@br4ttyb4b3]

The fact that we have a minimum age requirement for presidential candidates (which is too high by the way) but we don't have a maximum age limit, is INSANE. Why are we letting senior citizens have so much control over political outcomes that they won't even live long enough to feel the consequences of???

[@KaleSalad18]

Having a minimum age requirement makes sense due to finishing brain development and getting some experience, however, the ‘elderly’ sometimes are still mentally sharp, however that is most often not the case. Some even lose serious cognitive function earlier. I think that it would be best to have a cognitive function test for not only the old running for office, but all running for office. It would just be hard to find a test many don’t take great problems with when one’s candidate doesn’t pass.

[@khav11]

so you want a 25 years old running the country? typical z gen twerp.

[@mickeydoodle69]

I love that Rogan goes public with the idea that Trump lies as much or less than Biden. Adorable. He then goes on to suggest that comparing them is what? Useless? Boring? Good God, when your “arguments” make Maher look comparatively sane, probably time to rethink. Rogan gets SMOKED here. He’s got NO answer for this shit.

[@TyrianHaze]

When you are talking about someone, and someone hits you with the whataboutism, it is valid to not want to compare when the topic is Biden and not Trump.

[@lilmoe4364]

Naturally, he's a moron

[@erikaavila1281]

You people are so blind. Joe has lied about everything from his bs fire story to people who have lost literally everything to student debt relief to his business deals with his son, to the idea thar he is in charge of anything. All bullshit and the Democrats will eat it up because Trump.

[@RC-hv1yx]

Yeah. He literally has no answer to Trump and his cronies trying to undo the 2020 election. Which is why he simply never talks about it, until a lefty comes on and actually has the cajones to challenge him. Most won’t, because of his influence and power. Bill has his own money, as smug as he is he does not need to kiss up to Joe. Even Kyle would never challenge Joe this brazenly.

[@nothanks9503]

He’s infuriatingly stupid because it’s clear it’s for money and not because of actual incompetence

[@TheCorrupt420]

Bill annoys the everlasting piss outta me, but he's spot on.

[@KravMagoo]

Maher is about 50/50...either really right or really wrong.

[@TheCorrupt420]

@kravmagoo9527 his opinions are shit but when he states things that are backed by substantial evidence, I can respect that.

[@takietareyes1954]

@@TheCorrupt420 his evidence are mainstream media propaganda talking points. They're not even factual

[@mikek9297]

That line "... but the other guy is a crazy stupid criminal" should be a campaign slogan.

[@darthbrandon2149]

@@mikek9297 Yep. MAGA clowns will buy the hat, the t-shirt, and the bumper sticker. "Dumbass who voted for crazy stupid criminal, right here". 😂

[@jackkelley5779]

His name is sleepy Joe, how could he be woke?

[@Jaykilljoy-tt9tt]

For the first time, during a call with my grandmother. She is 80 years old. I asked her "What you think about Biden?" and her immediate response was "he's too old." and "showing signs of being senile" LOL. I kind of like the idea - fact that Trump lost to a senile old man. As Cenk said "If it was Trump vs a shoe I'd vote for the shoe!" Glad Bill Maher fought back against Rogan. Trump is a pathological, compulsive liar and text book definition of a con man.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

It's clear they're both too old you shouldn't be in charge of anything in your late 70s

[@randykrus9562]

Joe has to do some mental gymnastics to appease his audience of right wingers.

[@JoeMarge]

I don’t agree. This comes across as straightforward unapologetic Trump simping

[@WilliamBrowning]

that's why he spends so much time on his flexibility and stamina, the hoop-jumping contortions of logic.

[@Rowsy91]

lmao bro most of his audience doesnt give two shits about politics i guarantee you

[@firefly9838]

Well he's successful. I'd say he beat you in winning life.

[@seanwjones07]

I noticed that too… Rogan was playing dumb pretending he doesn’t know Trump is a POS.

[@Nomad-qm3zf]

Any time people think someone on the "left" is getting to Rogan, they're naive and just want it to be true. Anything remotely liberal leaves Rogan's mind minutes later and everything a far right guy says sticks with him for years.

[@RC-hv1yx]

100%. I’ve watched this happen in real time (no pun intended) over the years. Joe is a conservative. He said he supported Bernie years ago. That doesn’t change the fact that he spends 90% of his political conversations bashing the left and defending Trump.

[@dr-sg8xo]

Excellent observation

[@daleal7250]

First time in a while that Bill Maher has made some sense.

[@emm8357]

“…the stealth bomber is literally invisible”. 😆 The deadpan way he said that had me dead 💀

[@adamgarcia7192]

Rogan lost a lot of brain cells once he moved to Texas lol

[@kain9407]

Has nothing to do with Texas. He never had them in the first place.

[@WilliamBrowning]

Texas doesn't have much effect on the brain of it's residents. Hundreds of millions of dollars, on the other hand, changes literally everyone.

[@pearl_kill]

is all the chemicals from the oil pumps out there. seriously. went to southern TX they told me its not a good idea to drink the water and gave us 4 bottles.

[@julianbluefeather8491]

I think when the media went after him over Covid and the old N word clips it really scarred Joe and made him obsessed with anti-w0keness and opposing the Left

[@NevadaSmith2]

Covid broke Rogan’s brain.

[@JacobCorenthose]

Smugness doesn't equal being wrong. Refreshing to see someone call Rogan out on his false equivalency nonsense to his face.

[@sprig5173]

Bill Maher is smug personified but he's not wrong here.

[@gormeroth]

Certainly Kyle won't. Forever cucked to rogan.

[@darylhill9400]

I never seen such a false equivalence

[@Prodigi50]

Kyle says that very thing.

[@robinsss]

why is Kyle impressed by smugness

[@zenster1097]

He didn't say "he was woke." Are you not able to listen correctly? He said "He can't fight that wing of the party."

[@erickrajniak8424]

Joe Biden - "Hunter, did you hear what your sister said?" Hunter Biden - "Oh Dad, don't." Joe Biden - "Yeah, exactly"

[@MTRVPatrick]

Joe is so transparent in his bias, and the Dunning Kruger poster child for politics and science. He's a joke now, and I say this as a former fan. I will be shocked if he doesn't bring Trump on before the trials.

[@cigarettebref]

I think Trump on Joe Rogan is inevitable. And I don't like Trump at all but I'd listen to it still. Hearing that guy talk unfiltered for 2-3 hours would be amazing lol

[@makaimaukahasopinions848]

​​@@cigarettebrefyep -I'm 100% available to watch THAT farce

[@jaefrmbk2k]

✅️

[@chococat746]

@@cigarettebrefright….Trump won’t be able to help himself. He’ll def say something that’ll incriminate himself; words that will be used against him in court.

[@TheToscanaMan]

Dunning Kruger is correct. WTF do people see in Rogan?

[@greg6924]

The weed must have taken a toll on whatever few brain cells Rogan had.

[@Jessica-gy6kr]

don't blame the weed bro

[@Jessica-gy6kr]

too much DMT maybe.

[@mikek9297]

Maher smoked every bit as much weed as Rogan I believe. And that's saying something, but Bill's been at it for a while longer...

[@tomisaacson2762]

Don't blame the DMT or the weed. He's just stupid and always has been.

[@okyouknowwhatever]

@@Jessica-gy6kr Oh no, someone said cannabis is bad. Better run and cry into a pillow now.

[@DeusEx.Machina]

Of all the things a right winger could have accused Biden with, Rogan decides to go with “He lies a lot” 🤦🏽‍♂️ 🤦🏽‍♂️ 🤦🏽‍♂️ 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jbern2185]

Hahaha. I know! Fucking guy was alive during 2017 - 2020, but somehow has no basic idea of Trumps character. Add up all the verbal gaffes, mistakes, "lies" , and ridiculous statements of Biden over the last 30 years and that barely equals 1 trump speech.

[@moabman6803]

You don't think Biden lies?

[@jbern2185]

@@moabman6803 Well, what lies has he told? That's #1. Take every "lie" he's told over 40 years in public office and add them up. They won't even compare to a single Trump speech. Which leads to #2. #2. not a single person on earth lies more than Donald Trump. There is not greater documented liar in the history of the world who has lied more than Donald Trump or will out-lie him going from today until the day he dies. Do you f'ing not get that?

[@billj4525]

@@moabman6803 All politicians lie, but Trump definitely has the record for lie. Biden sucks, but we have to be realistic about how ridiculous and pathetic Trump is.

[@moabman6803]

@@billj4525 Has the record? How do you know? Or are you just using emotions to say that?

[@ericp1139]

Wow, good to see some vintage Bill Maher.

[@jakenavatka9431]

I'm glad to see you give Bill credit on this, Kyle. And your right, when Bill is smug and outspoken IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION it's fun to watch.

[@brad7566]

He's wrong 99% of the time. Watching him be right is painful and his smugness is just revolting

[@alexdaniel8873]

lol...translation: "When he makes points I agree with it's fun. When he's dismantling the stupidity of one of my takes, well then he's bad." What a fuckin' flake.

[@jakenavatka9431]

@@brad7566 As Kyle likes to say: take yes for an answer.

[@scowlistic]

Agreed & simultaneously nauseated.

[@Akkbar21]

@@brad7566what the hell? How?

[@TheNewMexican78]

I loved watching Bill hurt Joe's feelings so bad 😢😂

[@keithgreenan7300]

Joe won't change his mind at all

[@cheweebecca3697]

That's the problem with Rogan, he sways with how the wind blows. The next crazy conspiracy guy he has on, he'll be like, yeah yeah you've got a point. Rogan has a strong fan base because millions of people are just like him. They react to things without much thought then someone has to talk them off the ledge. People like him just tend to be trump supporters.

[@dral9657]

Bill is 100% correct . You may not like his smugness but his intellect is dangerously high .

[@masterboytothemax1599]

That’s why Trumps people lash out. They are intimidated and feel inferior to educated and intelligent people. They sit in the boonies and languish away.

[@mikeyatts]

he's 100% cause you said so

[@dral9657]

@@mikeyatts It doesn’t matter, does is it ?

[@jakem4579]

Bill is intelligent because he regurgitates MSM talking points? lol jeez. Your standard for intellect is….interesting 😂

[@dral9657]

@@jakem4579 So is yours…I hope you knew that injecting disinfectant were the words of an idiot !

[@Anthonycheesman33]

This is the first time I’ve ever seen joe not transform into his guest lol.

[@Gurfmanj]

Just proof Joe has moved comfortably into a bubble. How the hell did he not know this shit?

[@jw-ob1wv]

It's like he doesn't even read or watch the news and instead gets all of his information from the last person he happened to have on the podcast.

[@MegaKapo12]

​@@jw-ob1wvor Jimmy Dore

[@powerjae4651]

I was thinking the same thing how does he run a podcast and be so uninformed.

[@hamburgler227]

Smokes too much pot. Can’t remember what happened last year.

[@sittingfrogleg]

A right wing bubble. He’s also profoundly intellectually lazy, yet has one of the biggest microphones in the country.

[@digweed88]

For all of Bill Maher's flaws, I amazed that Rogan seems to react to all the factual information about Trump and his indictments as if it was the first he's heard of it. That's what happens when Rogan surrounds himself and allows to be influenced by a right wingers.

[@lilmoe4364]

When he's reading the charges, "conspiracy to impersonate an officer" or whatever, and he's like, "Hmm, I wonder what that is." Does he not know about the fake electors? Or more likely he just doesn't understand it? He's a clown with millions of viewers. A big part of what's wrong with the US

[@hobbsmakescomics]

Until the next Show when he's talking to another far Right nut job.

[@yuriajones]

This is one of my biggest issues with Joe. He's the same way (for the most part) with most guests. He appears to be a blank slate who has no bearing or context about what's going on. There are key things he might hop on though. But his surprised reactions to issues that are all over the news is just stunning to me, every time.

[@Dumpstermuffin1]

Joe's argument is literally "bOtH sIdEs"....yes joe as if the democrats are no better than the GOP who cheered on an insurrection and wants to pardon proud boys

[@nakfoor1846]

I noticed this as well. It shows Joe doesn't do a nano-second of rigorous research for any topic.

[@danyarnell3229]

Bill did a good job I give him credit

[@catYourMom777]

Where’s this Bill been?! I like actually agreeing with him again! 😂

[@WilliamBrowning]

Easy with the nostalgia. He bragged years ago about never having hired a woman writer. He was always a garbage bag perhaps you simply didn't notice.

[@catYourMom777]

@@WilliamBrowning that’s very possible 😂

[@Kai-tn4yx]

@@WilliamBrowning Lol that was a joke. He's literally a comedian. Listen to Bill Burr for example.

[@WilliamBrowning]

@@Kai-tn4yx IMDB shows at least 4 feminine names credited as writer's on his current show. I don't know what to say. This is LITERALLY the first time I have ever been wrong.🤷🤷‍♂🤷‍♀

[@lvli044]

@@Kai-tn4yx That's not how jokes work. Have you ever listened to an actual stand-up set?

[@Bynt]

Of all the issues in the country Bill Maher thinks it’s some cringe online people ruining the country lmao.

[@diablo55]

The irony is he’s that cringe online person but has no self awareness bc of his boomer narcissism

[@Navy35]

@@MAGAmoron4226are you referring to Antifa and BLM? Call out all violence and riots and I agree with you, but when you turn a blind eye to all those morons acting like fools then it’s just hypocrisy

[@tomisaacson2762]

He's an out of touch boomer

[@ballz4kidz]

@@MAGAmoron4226 Cringe online people don't have to power to start a civil war by being cringe online.

[@Navy35]

@@ballz4kidzhe’s a Bidenmoron , what do you expect. Just like Kyle actually thinks that Bidenomics is working for the average person. Give me a break

[@Madeintheshade65]

The kind of old Bill Maher showed up for a moment.

[@brementmark]

Don’t forget; Biden gave us Thomas. His worst sin

[@jonaslong6012]

Is Kyle finally going to admit that Joe Rogan has a terrible take?

[@talyahr3302]

He's done so many times lol

[@jonaslong6012]

I've never seen it. And he didn't even directly do it here. He loooooooves Rogan sophomore much it's embarrassing

[@TheBeatlesMan96]

@@jonaslong6012 Then you haven't been paying attention, every time he disagrees with rogan and think's he's wrong Kyle says so.

[@jonaslong6012]

@@TheBeatlesMan96 maybe, i haven't seen every single video, but every time i've heard him talk about rogan it's either cherry picking the one sensible thing he's said that month, or he dances around direct criticism, like he does in this video.

[@vehnashur2771]

I think Kyle is starting to be more critical of Rogan.

[@redaderoua8816]

Notice how rogan is tip toing around critizing trump in any way or saying any of the obvious crazy things he did, went all the way to say "well maybe we should just steelman his position.."

[@georgenelson8284]

Because the majority of his fanbase is rightwing

[@VampiricBard]

Yea he knows a chunk of his fanbase rages at any criticism of Trump.

[@RC-hv1yx]

And then people bug out if you call Joe right-wing. “BUT HE SUPPORTED BERNIE!!!” Uh, okay? He said he supported a progressive years ago and spends 95% of his political conversation time bashing the left and defending the right. So that one statement means he’s left-wing? What a joke. The dude is obviously a Trumper and has been for quite some time. Watch any convo he has with a right-winger like Patrick Bet David or Shapiro.

[@bernicejenkins565]

I'm glad for you that you pay more for gas, food, and everything in the country is going to hell because of JOE BIDEN! We had it made you fool.

[@garyt3hsna1l82]

Damn, I've gotta hand it to Marr he's the only one who can match joes insane uncle energy with equal insane uncle energy from the "other side".

[@lawb1205]

It's funny how we post comments and we really don't have a clue what's going on. We just follow others who we think are smarter then us.

[@arturo0727]

I'm more convinced than ever that Joe Rongan is going to vote for Trump. Lol also how can you tell Trump hasnt aged when he sprays 1/2" of orange paint every morning . 😂

[@christraeger5090]

Oh he will. He's literally said on his podcast that if it came down to between Trump and Biden, he would vote for Trump. The dude has lost his marbles.

[@redaderoua8816]

I think he'll vote for rfk junior.

[@SeanMathew-fj3rp]

He is. And I am too. I didnt vote trump before.

[@CC-gy7el]

@@redaderoua8816that’s in the primary, not the general

[@syyner1748]

​@@SeanMathew-fj3rp🤡🤡🤡

[@ummmidontknow]

Never been so proud of bill maher. I’ve never even been proud of bill maher

[@thebigpicture2032]

That was a flashback to vintage Maher.

[@Lokeacola]

Religulous

[@jackeagleeye3453]

Dude banged champagne bottles on Rogans head

[@TheRuggedAzzMan]

You’re proud of a man that 1 doesn’t know you and sure as hell doesn’t look up to you lol

[@silksonic3927]

@@jackeagleeye3453 what bottles lol its literally a competition of our candidate is less evil than yours at this point

[@MikeLikesChannel]

Federal courts only go to trial 2% of the time but convict 99.6% of the time. Go try and find someone exonerated from a federal trial. You won’t find that 0.4%

[@edwardthames9003]

Joe Rogan "uhhhh, they both lie" . Just answer the question. Excellent analysis of Maher.

[@audiolego]

But can't prove it because he's somehow taking it personal. Now that's deranged.

[@robdryan]

Parodying this debate needs to be Tim Heidecker's next goal.

[@nicholasbembridge3087]

Hahhhaha 100% would watch that

[@rob_mac]

McConnell needs to hire Trump's makeup artist so that Rogan can claim he hasn't aged.

[@Austinkungfuacademy]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Maher's personal beef with Trump helps him see the light.

[@robertoacevedo3805]

Joe “I don’t wanna lose my viewership” Rogan.

[@SquashBlossom62]

I've been watching Bill's career since early stand-up days, Politically Incorrect, Real Time, Pod cast and Club Random. I've always aligned with his opinions, politically, until the last few years. I've noticed he's moving towards the right in some things but he's 100% correct about what he's saying about tRump and Biden. IMO

[@TheRuggedAzzMan]

Bill Maher has always been the same. He’s always been a liberal. He’s not a leftist though.

[@commonsenseisdead]

@tracyhays3180 ... I don't mean to single you out, but I'm just tired of reading comments like yours. Bill Maher hasn't moved an inch but the same can't be said for other self proclaimed Liberals who seem to not see the stark differences between Liberalism and Leftist ideology... So I'll ask you; is separating children by race / skin color and/or forcing biological female athletes to compete with bigger stronger biological men (who conveniently identify as 'women') in line with traditional Liberal values? What's happened to fairness, women's rights, and a color blind society?

[@moonie9000]

I wish Kyle would stop comparing the two evils of the DNC and the RNC, and instead compare the three options: DNC, RNC, and breaking this endless cycle of corruption. Because one of those is VASTLY more important to vote for.

[@RussellReviewerFJV]

Stopping fascism from winning is the most important thing.

[@moonie9000]

@@RussellReviewerFJV okay define fascism in this context please, and exactly how the DNC will stop it

[@anticorporatists9959]

4:31 I bet Kyle in this decided to cover one of the people he's mostly similar with Bill Maher, and Joe Rogan because why the hell would he talk about how Bill Maher believes that writers don't deserve a living wage when now most of the careeristic hacks are now funding Kyle's patreon

[@JBuchmann]

I can listen to Maher critique Trump all day

[@duggyfresh8899]

I know that’s the problem you wanna hear someone talk about how bad he is instead of just looking at facts about both candidates.

[@tomisaacson2762]

​@@duggyfresh8899listening to Trump get shit on is just more fun

[@audiolego]

So it's true that we have a derangement problem.

[@darthbrandon2149]

I could not care less about what Bill Maher has to say about any subject, now that his only form of communication to the world is "I hate duh wokes!". But no one in their right mind needs Maher to tell us what a scumbag piece of filth Traitor 45 is. We can clearly see the 90+ Felony charges, and growing. Traitor 45 is dead to all but his MAGA clown supporters.

[@syyner1748]

@@duggyfresh8899 you don't know what the facts are!

[@MannersShark]

"Did biden change his pronouns to they/them" LMAOOO🤣🤣

[@WanderingExistence]

His pronouns are Ahh/Umm

[@Casablumpkin01]

When Maher characterised stupid as thinking a stealth bomber is literally invisible or claiming no one knew healthcare is hard to solve, I assumed he was speaking hypothetically, and not referring to things Trump actually said. Wild.

[@royw-g3120]

Bill has turned a bit grouchy "get off my lawn" in the last few years but is still better than most pundits, he was certainly right about Trump from the get-go and it was on his show in 2016 Michael Moore said he was going to win and they both then explained why. I have no idea why Joe Rogan has any audience at all on political stuff.

[@TheSci-fiAnarchist42]

It really is a sad day when I find myself agreeing with Bill Maher on any issue. But here we are. :-(

[@inigo9000]

What's sad about agreeing with somebody you maybe don't like, issen't that a little bit the problem in your country?

[@aaronbeaubaron16]

@@inigo9000all of the complaints about Bill Maher on the left is because he exposes wokeness. Their blind spot causes a PTSD type reaction preventing common sense from seeping in to their cognitive process.

[@nk1974]

He had people coming to him, with tears in their eyes, and they said Sir, you lost the election.

[@Emankind]

Rohan and Maher remind me of my dad and some guy arguing at a BBQ when I was a kid. And then we all ate burgers and played some catch. Remember those days?

[@edpartyka600]

Thank you for the clear and concise analysis!

[@trevorsole3933]

"Who's going to give me more tax breaks?" That's all these greedy grifters care about.

[@etizzle915]

Every body wants tax breaks. Biden is a bigger criminal, but he's in power so nothing sticks to him, not to mention he got the corporate media covering for him. If Trump did business with his kids the way biden did with hunter they'd be going ape shit.

[@keithgreenan7300]

Absolutely true

[@glumdrop4672]

Not even watched it yet but can tell this is gonna be rough

[@kb4231]

Correct

[@HKWhang1]

Yeah lol

[@costco_pizza]

Bill showed a lot of courage going onto a right-wing podcast and being unafraid to let everyone know his views. Let's give it to Bill for showing such bravery and courage!!!

[@KravMagoo]

@@costco_pizza Joe Rogan and Bill Maher have a lot in common, generally speaking. They are both all over the place and you never know when they will surprise you for good or bad.

[@TroyCastellano]

PBD just let Bill open his mouth and insert foot...over and over again. You can tell PBD resigned to not even bothering to engage with the idiot. Bill come across like a low vocabulary burnout. I was embarrassed for Bill.

[@joshuagarner1654]

Im amazed how these people use logic and reason until Trumps name is used then their brains break

[@Bennyboy1985]

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a literal mental disorder. Case in point: people who think any criticism of the objective dumpster fire that is the Biden administration is somehow support for Bad Orange Man

[@jcleaverchamberlinjr]

Gotta go with Maher on this one, as snooty as he is, he’s actually right

[@katharinavonheydekampf]

its been a while since I actually enjoyed Bill Maher

[@everywheremusic1]

Thats crazy that people debate who lies more.. Why is it acceptable for either of them to be lying? Are you going down the lesser of two evils road again ? Then you should also consider is one lying mostly about irrelevant things or things, that matter most to the country?

[@chewyjello1]

We don't know if Trump's presidency aged him....we haven't seen him without his makeup and hair plugs!

[@MiMi-og4wx]

I don’t usually agree with Maher, but he’s spot on with this 💯

[@jakenavatka9431]

Props to Bill Maher on making the case against voting to reelect Trump to Joe Rogan's sizeable audience. Even if Rogan himself still nonsensically leans in favor of Trump.

[@lilmoe4364]

Crazy, Rogan was just talking about government on another show, how the different independent branches keep each other in check to prevent tyranny, etc, while giving Trump a free pass, the guy who wants to undo all of that. Rogan is a stuffed shirt, no substance

[@fatmonkey4716]

​@@lilmoe4364Then surely you can name an example.

[@RC-hv1yx]

The comments on the video clip of their little debate are hilarious too. Joe’s audience is so right-wing they freak out when he has someone on who will actually argue against Trumpism.

[@Grey-Ghost]

Rogan, just like Republicans in power will never talk bad about Trump, why? Simple, a big chunk of his followers are Trump nation. He knows and is told by his team "Joe don't talk bad about the Cheeto or we lose our audience and our pay check. Believe me Joe voted against Trump once he stepped into the booth. The last think a rich person wants is an unstable country with freedom being challenged. He wants the American dream to be alive because it benefits him or any American who works hard.

[@MWhaleK]

When Bill Mahr is right? He is really f-ing right and give good reasons why he is right.

[@d0pp3lgang3r]

I love how Kyle's Trump voice sounds like Cartman. It's believable because South Park can't even lampoon Trump because he's too ridiculous.

[@Bigfrank88]

“I don’t think comparing two candidates for president does any good.”

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

All I know is the federal prosecution succeeds in determining guilt about 99% of the time. If the feds themselves are taking you to court, you already lost unless they fuck up a legal technicality somehow.

[@sprig5173]

Most smart people take the deal. I hope trump's too stupid or arrogant to do that.

[@tombondcrispy6585]

But probably still won't do jail time.

[@RC-hv1yx]

Nah it’s just the deep state persecuting Trump, a warrior of freedom and anti-corruption. This is what I think Rogan wishes he had to cajones to say because it really seems to be what he believes at this point.

[@fitwithartin]

I think you were responsible to watch the whole thing at least once before deciding that it’s a good idea to make money by putting a video together about it.

[@TheNattyManCan]

I don't know, this feels a LOT like the original election episode in South Park, and Rogan is Stan in this case. The response to his hesitance to support one corrupt politician over another corrupt politician should be to try and get NEITHER of them elected, not to just settle for the one YOU perceive to be the lesser of the two evils. The idea that it is expected for us to sit here and quantify which candidate is less evil and use that to determine who will represent the United States is utterly disgusting.

[@colonialstraits1069]

Two guys who prove, you don’t have to be talented to make a lot of money.

[@dral9657]

Bill is talented and extremely intelligent. To not recognize the quickness , lends your mind to …sleepy .

[@ericv7720]

​@@dral9657Bill's not that brilliant; he says some pretty dumb things.

[@dral9657]

@@ericv7720 He is one of the quickest thinkers in his field . The number of wrong or difference in opinion is debatable. I would listen to the latest example of really dumb things that he has said .

[@ericv7720]

@@dral9657 You like the guy, you watch his show. Better you than me!

[@brianholmes6392]

wow bill maher is actually based for once..

[@terrymckenzie8786]

People claim Bill has gone right. There is some wokeness that is crazy, but there are some things that spare facts and not woke. Republicans call anything they don,t like woke. Simpletons.

[@edwardpulz8830]

Bill Maher resembles, Bono more with each passing year.

[@tubeit365]

When Bill Maher stumps on his thoughts, that's the stoner catching up.

[@52flyingbicycles]

A literal bag of sand would be a better president than Trump. Especially based on what he plans for his second term. In fact, extend that to any Republican currently running. But I live in a safe state so I have absolutely no say in the outcome 🙃

[@TK_100]

A steamy fresh cat turn rolled in burnt hair would be a better president than any republican choice.

[@OMJNRG]

Bro democrats are pedophiles and they’re fucking over everyone! Y’all tripping!

[@avinashtyagi2]

​@@TK_100Perhaps, but I'm still not voting for Biden

[@audiolego]

Still not voting Biden

[@darthbrandon2149]

If Traitor 45 somehow returns to the Oval Office in 2025, there will be no such thing as a safe state.

[@randallholloway8686]

Holy shit, aight... So Maher's brain does still work. Hope he keeps that calibration. Reup on that strain you got now man

[@tomisaacson2762]

Nah it doesn't take a genius to recognize Trump is stupid, crazy, and a criminal. Maher is still an out of touch boomer.

[@lucaskrause14]

Imagine using somebody else's podcast as clickbait to trick people into watching yours. Your entire audience is just people who thought they were clicking on Rogans video. And you know it

[@mr.lostmychill8249]

Biden is not bad. He is trying at least to help the middle class and the poor.

[@waterprincess6444]

Trump looks the same , yeah the same coat of paint they’ve been spraying on his face.

[@thesterlingone1072]

“I don’t think comparing them does anyone any good.” Good thing we have podcasters to tell us who to vote for instead of the old days where people had to compare the candidates.

[@kentceka9229]

neither trump or biden are candidates as of right now... are you okay?

[@moonie9000]

I mean I agree with that, but not in the way he thinks. Comparing a turd to a pile of vomit is silly, when there's a third option there to move past both of them.