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[@HappinessPunch777]

If Rey is related to Omega, then that would make Rey a Fett. Jango basically won from beyond the grave. Wiped out the Jedi Order and Council with Order 66, and then had his Granddaughter steal the Skywalker name after wiping them out.😂🤣

[@Sacrengard]

Fett and Palpatine, what a mix lmao

[@whysprs]

Hmm palpa fett.. sounds catchy

[@colinwithonel]

sure, but even moreso then, the Sith would be the architects of their own destruction. Fett being just a pawn and all.

[@HappinessPunch777]

@@colinwithonel Jango became the Clone Template for two reasons. To have a son/successor, and to avenge his True Mandalorians by having his clones annihilate the Jedi Order and Council, who wrongfully accused and wiped out Jango’s True Mandalorian clan. “They’ll do their job well. I’ll guarantee that.” Jango Fett basically went Jon Wick mode, and spent over 10 years on Kamino being cloned just in order to avenge his fallen brothers. Even though he lost his life, he succeeded with all of his goals/objectives. His bloodline will never die either. A true legend.

[@darthsherminator5868]

@@HappinessPunch777this is the original canon right? great summary👍

[@Raichiro]

“They could bring Plagueis back, somehow” 💀

[@FabuBrik]

JJ Theory

[@TheGuardianofAzarath]

They did, but they changed his name to Snoke, then decided to not explain anything about him and just throw him away.

[@eviljigglypuff2254]

Somehow Plagueis returned

[@villadavid1997]

​​@@TheGuardianofAzarathSnoke was never meant to be Plaguies's canon version, I don't know where the hell you got this bullshit from

[@WigSplitters]

Why so mad​@@villadavid1997

[@chillowatt456]

It sounds like they're trying to set up the sequel trilogy about how palpatine survived. I'm not trying to justify the movies but that's my interpretation.

[@LukeTheGaymer1]

What they been doing since Mando season 2,

[@knightfallnoir699]

Agreed. Trying to make it make sense. So it’s not just “somehow” he returned

[@Ziiggywompus]

I’m honestly fine with it. Like at least they’re finding a way to make the sequels make sense. At least episode 9. And it’s making me be okay with the story they went with to some degree now that things are slowly being explained. I’d much rather this route than palpatines return being left up for speculation and people being mad they just brought him back. At least now there’s somewhat of a reason he returned

[@geviesanta3631]

I would take this as a big grain of salt

[@Fulcrum1313]

If they do that they will ruin everything good about the Bad Batch... same thing happened with Mando S3.

[@scottmccauley64]

Some people have the blood type that makes them a universal *donor*, "O Negative". Omega has the blood type that makes her the universal *cloner*, "Omegative".

[@hungtheheroluu]

Heh, clever pun!

[@r.carter8378]

makes sense

[@HIMcules2112]

Still don't care about the sequel trilogy nor consider it Canon

[@sattymike0155]

I’ve deleted it in my head. I put effort towards believing they don’t exist.

[@ashdonsimmons01]

fuck disney

[@mr.jglokta191]

"Somehow, we will explain Rey" Sorry. Couldn't resist 😂

[@greyghost4471]

if i remember correctly i don’t think omega is a “mutant” im pretty sure they said she’s a direct genetic copy of jango just like boba

[@supersteve1585]

But her gene was mutated to be a female version of jango.

[@greyghost4471]

@@supersteve1585u right, but i don’t think mutant in the sense like she got special abilities from the lab (at least i think we’ll see) i would assume this means jango and boba would have the same compatibility but who knows

[@dylanzrim3635]

@@greyghost4471mutant doesn’t mean special powers... unless you’re talking the x-men universe.

[@greyghost4471]

@@dylanzrim3635 bad batch got their abilities, heightened senses and physical attributes from mutation and experimentation in the lab, i just think it’s confusing to also call omega a mutant since the only difference in genetic material is she’s a female and the show did a poor job of explaining why her blood is compatible when she’s technically just a female jango, no special attributes or anything

[@Ian-Omega]

@@greyghost4471It’s only confusing to you bud.

[@Pinkorchid72]

They said in the show that Omega’s blood stabilizes the midicorians and because of that there is little degradation. is still a far leap to say that cloning would be possible just based on M count stabilization. Certainly, it’s the first step in that process.

[@LukiKruki]

He said there's no degredation with Omega blood

[@kurtmccathron3781]

Why does blood matter if it’s been said and shown through Sabine that you just have to train hard to get the Force? I mean anyone can be a Jedi these days.

[@Pinkorchid72]

@@kurtmccathron3781 oh, but this discussion is in reference to Palpatine’s secret cloning project Necromancer. He is trying different ways to clone himself or create a host body that can accept and hold up to his midichlorian blood levels and dark side energy. In EU lore, he was working on achieving Essence Transfer where his being/consciousness/force abilities could be transferred to a host body, but because he was such a strong dark side user, the dark side energy his essence carried would degrade the clone host bodies quickly with each experiment…so, during TBB series, this experimentation is in it’s very early years, and I suspect they thought that midichlorian stabilization might be one of the important components toward achieving a successful Essence Transfer. When it comes to the current live action/animation/movie, I doubt they will go into detail about this EU lore and the dark science because they would risk losing a lot of fan interest or the stories getting to muddled with all the fantasy science. But, this is just the background to this topic that you might read others write about in the comments across other YT SW channels. Hope this helps.

[@davisgaming69]

I'm hoping they take this in a slightly different direction and make Canon starkiller.

[@camolive3727]

Starkiller was never canon, cannot ever be canon, and will never be canon.

[@Excalis3344]

​@@camolive37271st point true. second wrong and third also wrong

[@camolive3727]

@@Excalis3344 Cope, you’re never getting starkiller in canon the same way you’re never getting Rey in canon

[@BC_Jerome9141]

@@camolive3727 what are you even saying.

[@camolive3727]

@@BC_Jerome9141 The statement cannot be more clear

[@Davedoesthat]

Mando S3, "My Clones", Gideon hints at having figured out the "essence" transfer. He was waiting on his clones to mature with force sensitive.

[@MysticTroll]

MY CLONES!

[@hubertjaniec2698]

@@MysticTroll or what Fat Mace would say, MY FOOOOD!

[@christopherpoet458]

He may have been involved with Project Necromancer. Would make sense because then he would have the intel he needed to then identify the required blood traits to then infuse his clones with The Force. EDIT: Or he obtained the intel during the collapse of the Empire and the Rise of the Rebellion and choose to start his own project with the resources he had at hand as an ISB agent.

[@black-op345gaming5]

@@hubertjaniec2698MY CABBAGES!

[@Kino_pup]

(Omega accent) EMM COUNT!.. I’m the key to.. (woody’s Toy Story head spin) EVERYTHINGGGGG..

[@discretfallen8082]

So basically Filoni is fixing the plotholes of the last movie?

[@dereklopez9060]

It would seem that way.

[@rileygarraway87]

Yes that is true at least he's doing it better than the people that were behind it before though

[@darthdracul8372]

⁠@@rileygarraway87I agree

[@Oxygen_Breather]

Let's hope he can fix the Chosen One prophecy discrepancy. I would probably say that was my biggest issue with the Sequel trilogy - that being the fact that they put a big dampener on that particular plot point.

[@maneyfresh3925]

Attempting to, doing a shoehorn of a job of it at least lol.

[@TheDeviantDon]

This video still hasn’t convinced me why the sequels are relevant at all.

[@SkywalkerOne1977]

Unlike all those people who said "wait till the 3rd sequel movie before judging", I don't respect any piece of media that requires another piece of media to not be crap.

[@dragondaveltd1992]

Sequel Trilogy Sucks, Kathleen Kennedy Sucks, George Lucas Sucks and Disney's Star Wars Sucks!

[@beingzur1637]

That's because this video is not trying to do that. At least what they are showing us now is more interesting than the sequels, i personally do not care if it connects to them!

[@isthatajojoreference.]

They’re basically giving it the treatment that the prequels got with connecting a bunch of stories together to make it seem more interesting since when the prequel first came out, they were so bland and boring

[@SkywalkerOne1977]

@@isthatajojoreference. They weren't widely hated. Early 2000's opinions online were mostly just critics. And critics hated the prequels. Fans loved them.

[@rigby_rich3650]

I’m calling it now, this is all building to Dave filonis movie. Every project setting up Dave’s movie: The mandalorian, book of boba fett, Ahsoka, The bad batch, Tales of the Empire, skeleton crew, Mandalorian & Grogu.

[@rileygarraway87]

Love the thought there Dave filoni is almost like a Sith to he twists his shows until it all ends up together similar to George Lucas in star wars prequels love the prequels though no problem there

[@rileygarraway87]

I mean all that in a good way

[@rigby_rich3650]

@@siegel947 is this written by Ai…?

[@kurtmccathron3781]

Then Dave is contradicting himself by giving Sabine the Force, as she by all tests and measures had no potential. This would include midichlorians. Essentially all one needs today is to train really hard and want it bad enough. Blood shouldn’t actually even apply now.

[@rigby_rich3650]

@@kurtmccathron3781 everyone has midichlorians, the more you have the more potential, the easier it is to learn. Palpatine would obviously want a host with alot of midichlorians. There are also other factors people ignore like the force being on your side, the force is basically sentient.

[@senatorchris3134]

From what I remember from season 1 without going back and watching it again, the reason the Kaminoans wanted Omega back was because, Jango Fetts DNA they used to make the clones was degrading and would no longer be viable. This was said during a scene with Nala Se and Lama Su, but maybe Nala Se didn't reveal to Lama Su the fact that Nala Se had also manipulated Omega to be able to have blood with a high M-count transfused into her and the body would not degrade. In other words I don't think your theory of being able to create millions of clones for Palpatine to "transfer his essence" as you put it, is really viable. Don't forget Omega is an anomaly, and would be almost impossible to recreate without Nala Se, and I don't think she will co-operate anymore with Hemlock. I have a theory that if Hemlock threatens to harm Omega when she arrives back on Tantiss, I think Nala Se will find a way to transfuse high M-count blood into Omega, thus giving her force abilities and therefore she will be better equipped to help the younglings and the other clones escape. I know it's a stretch, but I was just spit balling some ideas about what could transpire if Nala Se is forced back to work on Omega if Hemlock threatens her harm. I know it's a wild one and I don't normally go down these rabbit holes, but here we are.

[@thunderstorm8926]

Hemlock has a high pressure job.. .being evil isn’t easy . Dr.Nuvo Vindi seemed to enjoy his work more . My favorite quote of Vindi to Padme. “What’s A LifeForm Like You Doing In A Swamp Like This”~Dr.Nuvo Vindi

[@eeveeofalltrades4780]

Vindi was kinda just insane, of course he would enjoy it.

[@TimDaco]

@@eeveeofalltrades4780 MY Favorite Vindi quote is: "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!

[@ret2156]

Imagine saying the expanded universe isn't cannon but always trying to cherry pick ideas from it to save the franchise they destroyed. Starwars didn't die it alive and well in the expanded universe materials that, in my mind, is the real cannon.

[@LukiKruki]

George Lucas never saw EU as his Star Wars, he was cherry picking ideas from it as he liked to his vision with Prequel Trilogy and The Clone Wars. Just like he cherry picked ideas from the writers of The Clone Wars, he ruled what he wanted to see in the show. Dave Filoni's Ahsoka originally didn't mean to be Anakin's Padawan but Plo Koon's, for example. It got turned into a joke between Anakin and Obi-Wan in The Clone Wars movie yet Plo Koon still became the Jedi that picked her from her people.

[@jkranites]

to be honest most of the EU is complete crap, and contradicts other EU. Cherry picking the best ideas isn't a bad thing.

[@thesegafan4472]

No that's disney. And your just downplaying it's popularly

[@jilliebean6312]

@@jkranitesto be honest your wrong most of disney lore is crap and its own fans has to cherry pick whats good unless your saying you love surviving saber stabs and gangs driving italian mopeds

[@TimDaco]

Dave is literally fixing the problems of the last movie.

[@MrLag2024]

Yeah i figured that would be the case when they had Nala se destroyed her blood every time. Yeah I agree plaguies is laughing at Palpatine's fear of mortality

[@Starman170_Content.and.Gaming]

I agree with you theory and I think that somehow because Rey is a child of a clone of Palpatine there might have been the tiniest bit of force sensitive blood from Omega in Rey’s father that was passed down to her. Hopefully we’ll find out next Wednesday.

[@GPBA89]

I know some individuals have reservations on how the Bad Batch is fixing the plot holes created by the sequel trilogy. I, on the other hand, welcome this because it provides golden opportunities for more stories to be told that connects the franchise together.

[@jackcoliins6804]

I haven’t watched any of your content since rise of skywalker came out. Not because of you, but just because I got out of my Star Wars KZbin phase. I’ve always absolutely loved your channel though and I hope you keep up the good work. I rediscovered you tonight and I scrolled through your videos to find there’s been some kind of drama I’ve missed. No clue why everyone is treating you poorly, you’re an incredible part of the Star Wars community ❤

[@origamisodaaa]

Past couple of years he’s heavily leaned into being negative and pushing/dividing the fandom. Granted some of the Star Wars Disney is putting out sucks but there’s also parts that are great. Im on the side of hopefully retconning the sequels, they’re very lower mid tier for me, but that’s just my opinion. people seem to notice he’s in a loophole of trashing on Disney for clicks or associating with other channels that are just straight negative. Everybody has the right to speak their opinion, but other Star Wars channels just want him to be more balanced and uplift the fandom since he’s the biggest and has a lot of push with fans. Since watching him for a few years now I’ve noticed he’s carried himself more arrogantly, which is a bummer. Doesn’t seem to take criticism even if it’s warranted well. Hopefully he works on himself.

[@dominarrygelxvi1814]

"The girl who is the key to everything" were have i heard that before??

[@thedriftkingdogman]

In everything for the past 5 or so years

[@darthsidious1158]

you saying the "where have I heard that" makes me think of Krennic talking to Jyn.

[@logana6942]

Imagine if they adapted dark empire for a movie 😮

[@hungnguyenquang7247]

We already have dark empire movie cough the rise of skywalker

[@logana6942]

@@hungnguyenquang7247 That movie never happened lol 😆

[@bigyoshi5170]

Ah they might be setting up Episode 7 when they eventually release it with Palpatine having plans to do with cloning, wonder how that sequel trilogy will do when it comes out

[@0piumaeternum]

that thumbnail made me go “OHHHHH”

[@burnttoast.2017]

same.

[@At_Amsterdam]

No, the Force Unleashed universe shows that force sensitive clones can exist without flaw. If you choose to kill Vader at the end of TFA2 Galen’s evil clone kills him, and this clone looks normal. This destroys the concept that all Galen’s clones were defective and that the one you’re playing must be the original.

[@TeLometiTo]

We at this point know that project Necromancer at bad batch fails, (because Mando S3 / Gideon). The lab get blown by bad batch and failed Hemlock seeking forgivness of Palpatine gets killed by Vader /end

[@ColeTalksHockey67]

You’re onto what I was thinking. Thank you for this, I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking this way.

[@Remember.The.Creek24]

Palpatine isn't that old when he pulls those moves.

[@charles52able1]

Did Darth Krayt master Plagueis' form of immortality? He was able to bring his body back from the brink of death, rid himself of the Vong seeds, and seemingly de-aged considerably during his final duel with Cade Skywalker. Also didn't Karnus Muur also achieve this in a sense with his talisman that kept Celeste Mourne from aging?

[@anthonygordon9483]

Even if they intentionally made Rey a powerful force sensitive person. It still doesnt make sense why Rey figured out she was force sensitive so late in her life. Very sensitive force users can use the force as infants. Anakin was using his reflexes at age 8.

[@ikoiji]

Well, Rey survived all by herself in the desert, she could as well have figured it out early, but lacking someone to explain what was happening to her (or lacking confidence in anyone to report anything strange happening), she probably thought it was something ordinary.

[@azurewyrm66]

Unfortunately, given the track records of many people at Disney/LF that have been given a new lease due to the Trian Proxy setback, I can't trust this story. No matter how much of the EU they try incorporate and/or call back to, all I can see is subversion. Ultimately, the third season of The Bad Batch is pointed more towards the "Sequel" trilogy than Dark Empire, and after seeing the Tales of The Empire trailer, I can only see it getting WORSE. Whether or not this is Filoni's intent, or if there was another plan...I can't honestly say.

[@thesegafan4472]

This was by design. From the beginning and it will get worse

[@hatac]

There is another reason she's important to the franchise and Dave. She's the anti Mary sue. We see her develop, following the hero's journey. Succeeding and failing. Making hard choices before the point of victory. To save the clones and the kids she may give Palpatine what he wants but in a subtly sabotaged way. Later when she shows up as an adult or later teen she will be recognizable before we her the name. I suspect Emerie Karr will be an ongoing character too. They are building depth into the available characters on a long 20 year story arc.

[@ikoiji]

Same with Ahsoka... Some ppl says she grew powerful all from nothing, but none of these ppl is aware of the training Anakin made her pass through with the 501st, shooting her with their blasters on stun mode till she passed out, for an example.

[@hatac]

@@ikoiji And Dave saw that was needed before seeing the first script for the Sequels. He thinks and plans long term.

[@Januscomplex]

I think she's Mara Jade. HEAR ME OUT. If her blood is a binding agent then if you inject her with high M count blood she can attain her own M count. Her sister has red hair, and i have a feeling is going to die protecting her. Its gonna be just like black widow dying her hair blond, Omega will dye hers red to remember her dead sister. She'll be brainwashed by the programs we've already seen in the show and the Emperor will keep her close to him only bc he wants to keep her blood safe and test this artificial force user that was created which can fit the Emperors bodyguard narrative if they go that route. Also, think of the poetry of Anakin's son falling in love with the last clone from the clone wars. I really think she's Mara Jade.

[@chasejmartineau]

yeah they finally spelled it out with dialogue but we new this a few episodes ago

[@GeekCultureWars]

Palpatine gives me Sauron vibes.

[@Uredi20]

She could possibly bey Rey's mom. If they wanted to connect to the sequels (I hope they don't) omega and palpatine's clone have Rey which is why they were being hunted down in the first place. And Rey has palpatine + omega's blood.

[@RA10H56]

Dark empire was perfect

[@hungnguyenquang7247]

Dark empire great The rise of skywalker suck

[@sangramjaisingh8466]

To all, just enjoy these shows as "NON CANNON". ALSO, Rumour has it; a conglomerate will purchase the I.P and keep the following cannon: 1,2,(tartarkowsky clone wars),3,Rogue one, 4,5,6.

[@rickgross9328]

I literally called this back when the show first started. Lol. It didn't make sense to just have a girl clone just to have one. I knew they would eventually reveal some sort of relationship with the force. Didn't think it would take as long as it did.

[@clumsyhh1887]

The sequels are still BS.

[@darkside6101]

Fuck the sequels

[@reaganmemes6510]

Bro's got the instagram model lips

[@FantasyStarWars]

I spat my drink out 😂

[@Gman_-bq7wq]

Great now I can't unsee that.. 😂

[@AbhishekKr.Singh1609]

1:40 So Palpatine is immortal,only from a certain point of view

[@rileygarraway87]

Love your explanation you explained it the best way

[@midniteraptor1474]

Guys, do you think everyone in the Bad Batch is going to die except for Omega? I mean, so far the show doesn't seem to be afraid to kill off main characters.

[@walkertalker3232]

Imagine they get just a certain amount of blood and Omega dies at the end of the show. That is why Palps had so much issues in the new movies with cloning

[@lukesutcliffe3733]

Somehow plaguies returned

[@animasyonlar9773]

I think Rey is Omegas Clone

[@chrisjacobo7997]

Ok soo it mean that the only way this goes is she sacrifice and kills her self somehow and the other clones the batch defend her and die and the process and the story ends

[@Queen_Audrey1803]

have you heard the tragedy of darth plagieus the wise........

[@grinch5263]

Palpatine is Anubus from Stargate now?

[@jasonpower6578]

Lol idk why plagueis would be laughing. Palpatine would still be alive while plagueis will be in force hell 😂

[@ikoiji]

Plagueis wasn't afraid to die, as far as we know. Everything Sidious fears can be resumed as "death". 😂

[@caracalcaracal5567]

Why all the effort to clone bodies? Couldnt that Cylo V guy clone himself and transfer his mind on the Vader comics?

[@piotrbuczulinski9369]

It's not a problem to transfer a mind. It's a problem to transfer midichlorians and Force sensitivity

[@LukiKruki]

0:47 it's 0 Rh-, not 0 Rh+. 0 Rh- can be applied to all blood types, both Rh+ and Rh-. 0 Rh+ can be applied to all blood types but only Rh+.

[@JJK420]

Omega is a clone child of Palpatine and Anakin, like how Conner Kent is Lex Luthers and Clark Kents son

[@gstar7686]

O negative is the universal donor.

[@johnray1956]

Palpatine did get it right, before his own death. The issue is that you need a living Jedi that is compromised to make the immortality work. The problem is that Palpatine wanted to seek both ways, which split his focus. What i mean by getting it right, Force Absorbtion, is the for ability Palpatine learned too late.

[@shalifi7774]

I think Darth Plagueis is out there. Thats the plot thread id take if i was in charge.

[@Ethan-wr2os]

Then somehow he'd have to die soon, as Anakin turns to light once more and destroys the Sith, fulfilling the prophecy. So once he and Palpatine die, there can't be any more Sith around

[@NathanielJamesProd]

Should have been the villain in TROS, would have fixed most everything IMO.

[@starwarrior_swag1667]

in my opinion, cloning force sensitive people should work according to newtons first law of thermodynamics "energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only altered in form." meaning that in order for a clone of a high m-count donor to be possible, some sacrifice of an equally as or even higher m-count being must be made, in order for the m-count of that sacrificial being to be transferred over to the new, cloned host. Basically saying there is only a finite amount of "force essence" in the galaxy, which furthermore supports palpatines whole shtick with the "I am ALL the SITH!" Stuff... And totally proves that Rey "I aM AlL tHe JeDi!!1!11" was literally just re enacting Iron Man from End Game because it was just a cool as FUCK scene... Anyway thats just my 2ct. What do yall think?

[@makofett7404]

I said from first season she was force sensitive on just how she learned and mastered skills quickly like Anakin. She is bobas real sister. Twins if you will😉i think youll find they are related to Vizla the creator of the Darksaber and Mandalorian. The force genes arent always passed each generation hence Palps son being force impotent and Rey being like Anakin. Perhaps the clone blood intensifies these traits? Makes the mirror scene on Achto make sense now.

[@BenValentine83]

But if Boba is not just the first clone, but also Omega's "twin"/counterpart, the "Alpha" - wouldn't he also have the same genetic traits? Unless project Necromancer specifically needs a FEMALE donor, ergo, Omega could be... . . . . . . . . Rey's [biological] grandmother

[@jkranites]

This is from the Legends novels "the republic commando". Disney is trying to fix the timeline and canon because The guy who did Episode 8 messed it all up, and it was a crap shoot after. Its good they are cherry picking form Legends which is all over the place. However Technically Ray's Father was partially created with Luke's DNA from his hand. In case you forget

[@lesgrossman6332]

Did you just say Plaguis could comeback…”somehow”??? *ROS flashbacks*

[@TheSpaceWizardYT]

0:53 on the subject of “The force considered that inorganic”- As a reminder Yoda told the clones each of them was different through the force versus Jango Fett.

[@jamiemarshall4738]

My response to this is Dave Filoni doing damage control for the sequel trilogy like he did with the prequel trilogy. But it's kind of hard to make the sequel trilogy better but I do have faith in papa Filoni

[@roverboy006]

All roads lead to the sequel trilogy. No amount of background and explanation can save those abominations.

[@martykuypers8608]

Wouldn't it be better to make a Anakin clone to essence transsfer into.

[@martar.2085]

Palps does not want to deal with another son or even twin of an Anakin. ;) 😂🎉so perhaps not. Maybe a clone of a dooku? ;) XD

[@martykuypers8608]

@@martar.2085 there's never been a person as powerful, even more powerful then Sidious before being de-limbed. Sith value power over everything and if he already knows how to essence transfer then it's plausible that he wanted Anakin as an apprentice is so he could take him over before he got to strong. But after loosing all his limbs he lost 20%

[@martykuypers8608]

@@martar.2085 of his power a little less then Sidious. So he decided to create clones. If he could perfect the cloning force sensitive people he should have made a clone of Anakin. He didn't because he found out he had a son who would be more powerful than Anakin. If he would have cloned Anakin rather than himself he would have been unstoppable. Anakin beat the force gods on mortis a feat Sidious didn't even do. So cloning himself was short sighted that's all. Dooku was a great duelist but he never fully embraced the dark side his force powers could never even come close to Anakin's. Anakin killed him without fully using the dark side and spanked him like a Padawan. He wouldn't clone someone weaker then himself. He used Dooku to play both sides of the war and defeat the Jedi.

[@lostcause78]

"The girl is the key to everything!"

[@vint4gesank3y20]

I’m gonna say it, this is the PERFECT time to reintroduce Starkiller into canon. What they are establishing in Bad Batch with force sensitive cloning could draw into what Force Unleashed 2 had set up. Bring Galen back and fit him into canon by making him an Inquisitor that gets specialized training from Vader because of his power or something. Reboot the games or just bring him back in a show. I do not care. It would make sense for Palpatine to want to clone Galen when he dies because he was so in tune and very powerful with the Force. I could see Palpatine jumping at the opportunity to harvest his DNA to strengthen his own. Or just to clone Starkiller’s body to have it as backup if he needs to transfer his essence.

[@neondemon5137]

So Omega is an emulsifier.

[@jimlebeux8730]

Rey is Palps grand daughter and I think Rey is omegas daughter. Not that they had any kinds of sexual intercourse but a test tube baby. there is a reason that she has the same accent as daisy ridley.

[@bladeduffer]

I never really explored the Star Wars EU but years ago I do recall some stuff regarding Palpatine messing around with transferring his "essence" to another body. This is why the idea of him coming back was never really a surprise but the clunky way Disney did it was terrible.

[@Invalidcookie-bv4cx]

There are two characters that are "the most" important. 1. Omega 2. Ezra Bridger The only person that can give him a new body AND the only person that can open the world between worlds. Assuming Sidious still has the temple from Lothal.

[@Saint_Jordanius]

Genuinely curious, who was more evil? Palpatine or Plagius?

[@madmikefollower6939]

Why did she become Phasma tho

[@cdbosh]

Immortal doesn’t necessarily infer invulnerability. An immortal being may never die of “natural causes” (i.e. old age), but could still die from injury (e.g. murder) or disease. An invulnerable being may not come to harm, but could still not be immortal, and eventually die from aging (e.g. Superman… he ages, but is nigh invulnerable to harm). The “holy grail” is invulnerable immortality. 👍

[@werewolfofmandalore]

So how does grogus blood plot even tie in since they are clearly wanting omega be the blood donor??

[@ishmeetsingh5672]

I don’t know, maybe omega is the binder and grogu has more m count than even palpatine, so combine the two for the best body to transfer essence to?

[@werewolfofmandalore]

@@ishmeetsingh5672 There's also like 30 years between Omega and Grogu stories. Unless Omega lives well into the future I don't see how they are connected beyond their blood being special or M-count.

[@mafiamaster100]

Probably connects in the sense that he’s a failed attempt. Snoke is clearly an attempt at the full cloning process gone wrong. He’s a success in the sense you have a force user from cloning. But in terms of his body he’s a failure as he’s quite malformed.

[@werewolfofmandalore]

@@mafiamaster100 You know I was so focused on Palpatine that I completely forgot about Snoke. I could see project necromancer being the culmination of what cloning they could accomplish with the blood, and it being a general failure since Palpatine probably couldn't do anything with the Snoke clones besides puppet them. Essence transfer being a general failure since no body could hold Palpatine for long.

[@mafiamaster100]

@@werewolfofmandalore Very true, it’s essentially an amalgamation of all the different projects. We have this current project with Omega and whatever it achieves, (most likely the vials of what looks like blood attached to Palpatine when we see him in Ep9) we’ll have Grogu which creates Snoke. So they use the research from that and then in the Darth Vader comics (which are canon) Vader visits Exegol. He see’s the tanks with the various cloning attempts of Snoke and we also see what looks to be Luke’s hand in one of the tanks. So in reality it just seems to be a lot of stuff thrown together to make a big stew of “Somehow Palpatine Returned”

[@spacemadnesstv8364]

Dude, Plagueis being alive is a really good shout actually!

[@camolive3727]

Why

[@paradox2210]

@@camolive3727yeah, why? Palpatine killed him. In the way he says, 'Ironic. He could save others from death… but not himself', it’s very clear that while Plagueis was attempting to cheat death, he was never able to achieve it! I really do not want Plagueis to be alive. Edit: fixed spelling.

[@camolive3727]

@@paradox2210 Yeah I’m just tired of people suddenly being okay with bringing dead characters back to life

[@paradox2210]

@@camolive3727 Oppositely, I wonder how they’re going to kill off Thrawn in the upcoming Disney Canon content. Since, y’know, they unceremoniously killed Rukh for no reason. The whole Noghri plotline most definitely won’t play out.

[@camolive3727]

@@paradox2210 I’m almost glad they didn’t touch on that plot line, they’d almost definitely manage to ruin it somehow

[@Aveniz]

Valkorion was really close this ''real'' immortality

[@thatwasmypitch]

Omega = Rey's mother? In the wake of the Clone Wars, a young clone named Omega possesses a special element in her blood that could be used to clone Force- sensitive individuals. Emperor Palpatine captures Omega with the intention of using her blood to create a perfect clone , hoping to ensure his own legacy. After many failed attempts at cloning, including his cloned son born without Force sensitivity.During Omega's captivity, she befriends the Emperor's cloned son, and together they escape the Empire's clutches. As they evade pursuit, their bond deepens into love, and they marry, eventually welcoming a daughter named Rey😂

[@Fardawg]

Palpatine can't create an endless number of clones for himself, unless they once again break their own canon. The whole reason Palpatine is zombie-ish and hooked up to machines in TROS is because his clone wasn't completely successful and they can't replicate even that experiment. His clone body was deteriorating rapidly, which is why he needed Rey to transfer his soul into before it completely broke down. Snoke resulted from genetic experiments in creating a working Force-sensitive body for him, but the result was unsatisfactory so he used him as something of a puppet. They could steal even more from Dark Empire and give him multiple clones that also deteriorate, but they need to come up with a reason why he only had one clone left and they couldn't make another one. I don't expect anyone at Disney to do that competently.

[@Pyrowith2os]

When did they say plageuis mastered immortality? I remember this quote: “ironic. He could save the ones he loved from dying…but not himself”

[@ajay.gillig]

So is that really how the entire series/ story will end??

[@RabidNemo]

2:30 I think if he came back it would be the one thing in the galaxy that could literally make palpatine shit a brick

[@witchkingangmar2731]

Yea season 1 episode 2 I was like she’s rays mother She’s a sheev clone

[@CullenRick]

So, her blood type is M+?

[@catxborsuq1]

I fear they are also trying to set up Omega being Rey's mother :/

[@DonaldRumpusDumpus]

Probably why palps wanted Rey, she inherited her mother’s original purpose.

[@Kost-ld6nx]

I can see them trying to make it out to be Rey is actually a successful clone of Omega mixed with Palpatine Blood, or granddaughter of that cause I dont see how palpatine had a random offspring and just let them get away.

[@frogartti]

I still don’t understand how Palpatine returned. If it’s through soul transfer and cloning then shouldn’t he survive the events of the last movie?

[@Alex_FRD]

Your endless hope that Disney will *ever* do anything with Dark Empire or anything from Legends is admirable.

[@Gor85]

This makes sense. Palpatine only cares about living forever.But he's not really immortal. Plagueis was right. And he's right for making fun of Palpatine.May the Force be with you too,always😊

[@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854]

To be fair, a lot of people turn around on the prequel trilogy and became fans after watching Clone Wars, if this cartoon does that for the sequel trilogy then hey good for them.

[@LukeGoodwins94]

Imagine if they made a storyline where in one of Palpatine secret vaults lies Darth Plagueis

[@TauRiOneill]

On a side note, I believe “Agent X” is a direct clone of Crosshair. If you listen to his voice carefully especially when he’s on the roof confirming he found Omega, you can hear Crosshair’s voice under the distortion. It can’t be Tech because he wouldn’t have needed intel from Cid about Phee and Pabu, he already knew all that, Crosshair didn’t. Just my theory. What do y’all think?

[@DFR_Entertainment]

If Plagueis is immortal somehow then the mantle of master wouldn’t have changed would it?? Causing Palpatine to be essentially weaker in the dark side I would think.

[@kurtmccathron3781]

Why does blood matter if you can just train hard enough to use the Force these days? Didn’t Sabine just turn all this on its head? Or does Disney not even communicate between their various shows at all?

[@valmid5069]

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[@jonathanbassett3656]

Then they really F'd up by letting her work and not just be kept secure and drained of blood every couple of days