My Wacker Wont Start!!!!

[@edniemyjski3303]

they say the mind is the second thing to go,the first is your wacker.

[@Lil_orange999]

You need to wack it 😂😂

[@SluSharkND]

This one was too easy, Sir. Not commenting on the problems with your Wacker is my Christmas gift to you.

[@BentTreeFarmPa]

When my wacker wouldn't start, my mechanic gave me some little blue pills to put in the fuel tank, but he made sure to tell me that if it ran for more than 4 hours to call him IMMEDIATELY!!!! ( sorry, you started it with the title :D )

[@jimhanlon7589]

Keep them coming We all learn from these I’m down to watching two farming channels yours and OLF Never to old to learn Keep them coming

[@lostsailor2284]

My experience with the generators is they have many safe guards built into them that they will not run without the computer or the sensors not working. I am in the entertainment industry and I will not guarantee an event unless we have a technician babysitting them 24/7 I also have a 60k at home.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Yea thats what I was told. We just shut it off for maintenance one day and then it wouldn't start. Should be able to bypass it some way

[@barrychouinard4019]

May not be much of a suggestion. I do the weekly test runs, maintenance on a couple of our standby generators. On ours, if the water temp is not at least 145 Deg F - the ECU will tell it to not turn over / try to start. In our "standby" environment - the generators are made to come online immediately, and go directly to full operating throttle right when it starts, so one of the requirements to do that is the 145 deg F coolant temp.

[@SouthSaskFarmer1]

There are some good videos on the internet to help a guy get his wakcer going

[@1decks]

That’s what she said

[@Military-Museum-LP]

Could be it’s been wacked to much maybe?

[@SouthSaskFarmer1]

@@Military-Museum-LP tired wacker is possible lol

[@jimpolk]

New to your viewership. From the states. Soent some time in Alberta though. Beautiful country.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Hey welcome to the channel....its very beautiful country

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

I sure hope you get your wacker fixed :) Too bad there isn't a way to by-pass all the electronic crap!

[@michaelmactavish1728]

lucky kubota GL series generators doesn't electronic its all key start and all same tractor parts wich is nice set up on the kubota generators wich im planing perchuse one

[@ChiefAUS]

I like that old Case. No computers to go bad like the generator.

[@kentmathieson1342]

All I can offer is good luck in finding the problem. Looks like too nice of a unit to not get some use out of.

[@makingithappen5178]

The skid steer has done a great job.

[@Ham68229]

As others have said, disconnect the battery, charge it up, reconnect. That should "reboot" the computer properly. If not, it's either the computer or a wiring issue. For the energized to run cell, (fuel shut off), you can run a simple pigtail wire from the battery direct. Just disconnect to shut it down. It is possible it's the engine monitor device, odds are, it's a wiring issue. Don't care what people might say but, field mice still get into things, especially during the winter months. Cheers :)

[@Northern_Farmer]

Well it hasn't ran since last year...we shut it off to do maintenance and then it wouldn't start again...I would like to bypass it somehow

[@Joey966]

When I have problems with my wacker I just think of big boobs.

[@leighmartin120]

Best of luck Tyson. Let us know when the problem is solved. It could very well be just a reset of the controller via time and date. My two cents😕

[@makingithappen5178]

This with computers that control everything in the machine is not good. A simple problem, gets so complicated and expensive.

[@GaryHarris48]

I run a big diesel welder with a bypass wire to the fuel cut off

[@DarrensTruckzs]

Wow that’s a good lookin Generator !! I’d be looking into fixing it properly .. as it looks to me it be worth it .. not like it old an worn out .. I wouldn’t by pass an cobble it .. I fix right for sure !! If ya don’t like then you can sell an get good money back outa it

[@bobcrone6151]

I wonder if, after you get it in the shop and warmed up, you can power it back up and figure out a way to “reboot” the computer on the panel. There may be a dialog for that... not sure... just a stab in the dark. Good luck! Pretty work with the Bobcat!👍

[@Northern_Farmer]

Temp didn't matter since it quit running ladt summer...I'm thinking I did take the cables off last time I was working on it

[@bobcrone6151]

@@Northern_Farmer Gotcha. Maybe take those cables off for 5-10 mins before charging it so the comp will reboot. But it will prob reboot and come back online again just like it is now. But will eliminate a simple rebooting as the issue. Good luck.

[@straightpipeacres6365]

@@bobcrone6151 I think so too

[@patrickmorgan3326]

😀 Ha ha, I guess the cold weather affects everything. I’d set the clock as it requested because it monitors its systems by hours of operation. If that doesn’t work then you can start chasing relays and such.

[@Northern_Farmer]

This happend in the summer

[@johnviney7919]

My first thought was a low battery, but you are charging that now so.......... electronic gremlin likely....... gotta love technology!

[@paulcasefarms9933]

I had to clean my computer after I blew milk out my mouth when you said'' Oh it has a block heater. I would need a generator to plug it in .'' Thank you. I needed to laugh today!

[@Northern_Farmer]

Haha

[@larrybg9293]

I hope you find a fix. Good luck with it.

[@JAC_Hammer]

A couple places to start: 1) Jumper the remote start terminals together (Below that main start switch) and put that main start switch to the left and see if it does anything different. 2) Look at the emergency shutoff big red button, push it in and reset it a couple times, maybe its not making good contact, one of its contacts supplies power to the starter through starter output of the controller.

[@Hiddenhideaway]

Make sure you have lotsof fuel in the tank.... our big compressor did that to us and all it took was to fill it full of fuel.... has some kind of sensor just like a low oil sensor.

[@jkoehler4027]

Sent you a email with a link to a web page with a repair manual and troubleshooting chart to track down the start signal to the ECM module. The ECM controls the starter motor relay on the engine and the fuel system. I’m not familiar with this brand generator but hope this helps.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Thanks

[@guillermoferrusca8043]

Can I get that link please?

[@jkoehler4027]

Google search the wacker generator g70 manuals. I can’t post links here. ​@@guillermoferrusca8043

[@jkoehler4027]

@@guillermoferrusca8043 I cant post links on you tube

[@darrinrussell3526]

Charge the battery. The computer senses that the voltage is low.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Had the charger on it ...didn't matter

[@michaelmactavish1728]

@@Northern_Farmer thats all most same size generator but a kubota gl11,000 wich doesnt have that because uses all there kubota tractor parts plus it uses key start and price wasnt bad for $8,600 and 5 year warranty

[@SlipShodBob]

Got a bit worried when I read the title and then heard you say about connecting up to a battery when I turn to check on PC while I waited for the accounts to load.

[@straightpipeacres6365]

Is your emergency shut off off by chance?? Thats what Ashley says. She has the same thing on her portable seed treater!! Lol

[@Northern_Farmer]

I'm gonna check that buddy

[@michaelmactavish1728]

@@Northern_Farmer im glade im going with the gl11,000 kubota at least they only have key start no buttons are any that on theres wich is nice plus oil and feul drain plugs are all out in front easy access too

[@ScotWalt858]

Good luck with your Wacker!

[@kopenhagenkid]

Great video Tyson

[@bradbaynham5368]

It won't start till you set the Clock & Date, maybe like a computer.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Bit it was running without it before??

[@MrThisIsMeToo]

@@Northern_Farmer If ECM is booting up as shown it is most likely fine. Voltage is not ideal, but the ECM will still try to crank at anything above 10v (if memory serves me correct). Most likely it is a bad connection to a solenoid or a sensor. Starter solenoid or crank sensor. You could try resetting all the connectors to try to clean the off. Wacker does have a pretty good flowchart diagram in their repair manual that will help you chase down the problem. Been there and done that and what you are seeing is pretty common, bad connection, of not a blown fuse. ECM is not throwing any codes which is good. If it were the light would be on by the exclamation point. Pretty sure the emergency shut-off is not thrown, for if it was the ECM would display such. But double check I am not 100% sure on that model and age. Hopefully it is just a connection or fuse to the ECM, if not might be a bad ECU. Seen that before. Good luck.

[@MrThisIsMeToo]

@@Northern_FarmerFound it. Google "Wacker Neuson G 50 Repair manual" It is the same for the G70. The trouble shooting flowchart for JD starts on page 182. It refers to Flowchart 1b at one point for you, you can just use the flowchart 1B for the Isuzu engines. They are the same as far as ECM and ECUs go.

[@Northern_Farmer]

@@MrThisIsMeToo ok ill give it a try...thanks

[@MrThisIsMeToo]

@@Northern_Farmer Best of luck. Let us know how you make out!

[@adrianklaver113]

If I where to hazard a guess it is battery issue, but one on the computer board. If you are lucky it has the holder for a watch style button or disc battery and you just have to replace with same. Otherwise it would be a soldered on battery. Then the issue is, if this the case, whether the board forgot its programming when the battery went down.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Hmm

[@adrianklaver113]

@@Northern_Farmer Meant to add previously, I would verify with a Wacker dealer.

[@raymondurban3388]

unhook battery, charge battery, re hook battery..that will reboot computer,check for low oil or low water sensor..thats all i have.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Thanks

[@landlifem5872]

@@Northern_Farmer Sometimes you gotta unhook the battery terminals and then touch terminals leads together, somehow for some computer stuff it resets . I don't know how it works, but it's worked for me on a few things.

[@thercmechanic5385]

Dead batteri in the Computer

[@Northern_Farmer]

Hmm

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

Hmm.. sounds like a personal problem to me 🤔😵😵😵😵😂🤣

[@Military-Museum-LP]

How many hours on it Tyson? Looks brand new. I do know if the battery is not perfect everything stops.

[@Northern_Farmer]

6800...the battery is fine...we even had the charger on it

[@farmcentralohio]

I'm just here for the jokes in the comment section. Great video title :)

[@chrismarquez6049]

You can use a jumper wire on the panel were it says remote start

[@57REDROOSTER]

Make sure the battery is charged and a good battery... The junker I have won't do anything unless the battery is up... Sorry that's all I can say with out being their to look at it

[@Northern_Farmer]

No she is a good battery...only shut it off to check oil in the morning last fall and it wouldn't start back up

[@pietjepuk4838]

Could be that's its's waiting on a signal, for example oil pressure or waterlevel, that's why it's not allow the fuel valve to open. Maybe try to loop them. You got a good ground??

[@Northern_Farmer]

Yea I cleaned all the cables and all

[@vesanikunen5692]

Think simple first check if it has fuel in the tank than check fuel filter and maybe ck pick up tubes from tank that they are in place.sometimes you get water in the filter and it will frozen inside..have you treated the fuel??

[@Northern_Farmer]

Shouldn't be frozen in the summer

[@smoothbore4377]

Does it have a "low oil" sensor that would keep it from starting ?

[@Northern_Farmer]

It should ..

[@7pdude]

if so, it would tell on the display. since this hangs in some sort of loop it's most likely something with the display / computer the display is attached to.

[@ollie-lk5dx]

Sometimes to much technology isn't a good thing, Can you call a dealer for advice?

[@johncook7568]

These things are sent to try us and they are very bloody trying!!!!!!!!

[@aaron50801]

Did you check the emergency stop?

[@Northern_Farmer]

Yes

[@aaron50801]

Check for 12v on red wire #18 @ ecm pin 5 plug 2 if no check 10amp fuse if yes check for 12v on yellow wire #63 @ ecm pin 1 plug 2 if no replace ecm

[@chucksteward2615]

Is it still under warranty, If the warranty has expired so that you don't lose any warranty time? Install a manual start switch. Hook-up the start SW. to a relay or relays with enough contacts so that you can bypass any and all blocks that are keeping you from starting the engine, I, E, the computer itself, ignition, fuel cut-off valve. You get the idea, so when you have this problem in the future, you just open the new manual start SW and press a starter button which you will also have to install, the start button will get its power from the new manual start SW so that it is dead under normal operation and presto your back in operation.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Thats what I'd like to do...

[@Northern_Farmer]

Oh its a 2012 I believe ..bought it used

[@chucksteward2615]

@@Northern_Farmer If your sure that that's what you really want, but first you must think hard, as you know that, that computer was put on there for a reason, that being so that when you flipped the start SW the computer would take over and monitor the operation so that your generator would not suffer any problems in your absence. so therefore the unit does not have any gauges, idiot lights, or alarm systems to warn you of any problems. An unmonitored machine could destroy itself if say it had a loss of oil pressure and was allowed to continue to run on. A manual start SW would be OK for say an emergency and had monitoring gauges and was monitored. Generators that run unattended and most do, have protective devices to shut down the unit if something goes haywire, yours won't. I see that the computer has a digital readout and diagnostics buttons. It's not telling you what's wrong with the generator? and another thing you said a new computer board would cost an arm & leg. If your sure it's bad, take it out & take it to an electronic repair shop. They most likely will need to order a schematic to be able to troubleshoot it but may be able to fix it for peanuts. the repair could be as simple as a fifty-cent resistor, capacitor, or a transistor that is bad.

[@bcpfarmandtrucking6560]

Darn Wacker won't go just Wacker it off🤣😂

[@poorfarmerlogger]

Check all the relays. If everything checks out there I’d suspect it’s in the controller. Is there a auto transfer switch on it?

[@Northern_Farmer]

Whats that switch do?

[@poorfarmerlogger]

Northern farmer switch set up so it automatically starts when the power goes out. Usually externally wired into the grid. Not sure if some generators are set up internally or not though. It switches the power over to the generator and cuts the feed to the main power line. Ours has a auto or manual start switch. It can be wired into the grid to auto start when the power goes out but still needs a transfer switch so it doesn’t back feed.

[@Northern_Farmer]

@@poorfarmerlogger oh yes there is..you turn that switch to the left instead of right

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

It's because it's too cold... Just like your little JD when you are outside in the middle of the winter and have to pee😂🤣 If the computer controls the fuel solenoid, be careful if you have to power it.. on some computer controlled engines, it can fry the computer... Stupid Engineers, messing with too much stuff!!

[@barbarian6850]

Disconnect the battery and fully charge it, while you are charging the battery short the cables you have removed the battery together, this sometimes will reset the computer.

[@Northern_Farmer]

I had the battery off it last year..didn't make a difference

[@wolfeislandexcavating5426]

Thanks for sharing

[@MichaelDillin]

The bus bar door may have a resettable safety switch. Let me know if you find it. It cuts off the generator so it won’t start in case an idiot opens up the exposed bus spar lugs.

[@Northern_Farmer]

It was the whole screen module that had to be replaced

[@MichaelDillin]

@@Northern_Farmer hate those things🤣 EPA compliant pieces of junk. My favorite system is about 20 years to 30 years old. It’s got an off position switch you move it to the 12 o’clock position. That’s the start position idol then you move it to the 3 o’clock position and that’s full speed energize. Much simpler and much cheaper than the big deep sea or whatever is on that one. But they’re all going that way because of a missions, thanks to California and the rest of the country adopting arbitrary emission standards by people that never use generators

[@wranther]

Hi Tyson. Did the generator fire off on ether? Maybe disconnect the battery, charge the battery, then reconnect the battery once fully charged, sort of like a system reboot but with a full battery. -Bob...

[@Northern_Farmer]

No I didn't try..we just got it to crack over

[@bborkzilla]

Consult your doctor if your Wacker runs for four hours or more...

[@wbvw0774]

put diesel in the tank. Clean fuel filter,

[@Northern_Farmer]

Lol

[@GaryHarris48]

U can bypass a hot wire to the fuel cut off

[@steveholton4130]

Did you disconnect the battery to fully reset the computers? I'm not saying anything about charging the battery. Just disconnect it for 5 minutes then reconnect it and give her a try.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Yup last fall I tried that

[@robslatton2543]

I know on a wacker control panel on a water pump there is a fuse inside it that will cause that you could look there

[@robslatton2543]

It’s a buss fuse inside the control panel

[@billbooth4147]

Are u able to toggle through the screen using the left and right arrows?

[@Northern_Farmer]

No

[@billbooth4147]

@@Northern_Farmer you should be able to,to scroll through the function s

[@brentreid7031]

Is there code numbers come up. Sometimes a broken wire in wiring harness will send false signals to the computer.

[@Northern_Farmer]

Nope just what you saw on the video

[@brndnew01]

wacker it harder?!?!

[@tomshaw2358]

Disconnect the battery and hook back up fully charged ?

[@Northern_Farmer]

Did that long time ago

[@JoeyCampbell988]

I had to replace the motherboard in mine. Was $3500

[@Northern_Farmer]

I know..a mechanic told me its expensive

[@donhenry7879]

Fix the battery voltage issues , 12.2 is for all purposes a dead battery. If the computer sees a low voltage it will not let it start.this is a safety issue as the computer can not control the engine. Welcome to the world of modern engines.

[@Northern_Farmer]

I had said in the video I had the battery charged up..makes no difference

[@mattphillips4260]

i have had fuses look ok but was bad take your meter and check them fuses that way this is what i would do if it was mine to work on anyway

[@Northern_Farmer]

Yea I just checked them by eye...I checked a few last night with the tester...but not all of them

[@leigh123rt]

Ever figure this out?

[@Northern_Farmer]

Yup...it was the main computer board

[@notsofresh8563]

If you wack it too much you'll go blind.

[@GaryHarris48]

Probably can reset the computer....

[@mikekuehne5393]

You have to setup the date time on the computer or it won't do anything. You can't let the battery drop below a certain point or the system forgets what to do with itself.

[@Northern_Farmer]

I tried that but the buttons don't work on the keypad

[@Northern_Farmer]

Do you mean the battery in the computer or the big main battery??

[@mikekuehne5393]

@@Northern_Farmer the main battery keeps the internal battery charged. If it's got too low the voltage in the internal battery can drop causing the computer to suffer loss of memory. Most of the time that means a trip to the service center to reprogram the computer.

[@JAC_Hammer]

@@Northern_Farmer Well thats concerning if the buttons don't do anything. After the display says "Not In Auto" it should switch to "Start Delay" and then "cranking". Since it doesnt say either of those things it's like its not even trying to start it. Coupled with the buttons not working, it points towards that controller having issues. Might be worth opening up that controller and taking a look inside. Look for corrosion or burnt things, make sure all the connectors are seated. And look for any glass fuses on the board that might be blown. There will be a battery on the board somewhere that maintains the clock as well..

[@Northern_Farmer]

@@JAC_Hammer yea its strange because we had just shut it off to check oil and tried starting it back up and nothing. I'll have a look when I put it inside the shop..see if it's hard to get that control panel off

[@ReolSPro]

battery said 11,5V - so thats an empty one - full is 12,5 to 12,8 or not

[@Northern_Farmer]

Its at 13

[@huntingandstuff9489]

Yeah that's way too much technology for a generator. Way too complicated

[@brucebaker4462]

Number 1 problem is it's a John Deere motor.

[@RockinRobbiesRoadhouse]

Hahahaha the wee wacker wont wack? That’s whack

[@Northern_Farmer]

Haha

[@billbooth4147]

Probably threw a maintenance code

[@Northern_Farmer]

Nope..no codes

[@billbooth4147]

@@Northern_Farmer the little service light wasn’t ever blinking?

[@Northern_Farmer]

@@billbooth4147 nope

[@billbooth4147]

@@Northern_Farmer I don’t reckon I know then but you should be able to scroll through the screen using your left and right arrows,maybe some videos on KZbin for it dunno I’m sure u have searched

[@billbooth4147]

@@Northern_Farmer call the company

[@AdvandesAlmeida]

👏👏🇧🇷🇨🇦

[@geoffsmith4309]

first

[@fisherbrain9407]

Hi