Old vs New Drag Race: Watch What Happens When I Race a NEW Jetta vs VW's OLD Monster W8 Passat!

[@TFLclassics]

Bid on this EXACT W8 Passat HERE: www.tflbids.com/product/2003-volkswagen-passat-w8/

[@herbalgabel]

Is it pre or post vin split?

[@marcelk3847]

This W8 will need 2 new headlights costing more than the car

[@ethanyates28]

It's such a boomer thing to talk about an ugly color combo then being like it's only 2 of 400 😂 the M/T and the W8 is pretty cool tho

[@e30-88]

@@marcelk3847 Warum zwei neue Scheinwerfer??? Nur weil sie blind werden??? Scheiß egal dann werden sie zerlegt und wieder aufpoliert und dann wieder zusammen gesetzt und fertig!!!! Wo ist da das Problem????

[@tim213455]

Hey tfl, great video. But why would you walk with the length measurer for the second time all the way from the start?)))) All you had to do, was to measure the distance between the two cars.

[@craigbomer8962]

I was a VW tech through the mid to late 2000s. The reliability of the W8 Passat wasn't the biggest issue, it was repairing it when it did break. Access to the engine and driveline in the front of the car is HORRIBLE. I remember watching a coworker go through dropping a W8 out multiple times due to a faulty oil pressure sender. The vehicle's owner was notoriously cheap and wanted us to replace the bad sender with a cheap aftermarket unit and our service manager caved and allowed it. The tech didn't want to go through all that without putting in a quality part. When the second aftermarket sender failed, requiring a third engine removal, he threatened to quit if he was forced to install another crappy sender. We put in a factory part and never saw the car again.

[@Bluegrassriver8]

quality parts make the difference

[@Minato2003]

As long as he was paying for labor 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@codexnecro666]

What about their V10 diesels? My mechanic begs me to sell my Phaeton, every time he returns the keys to me 😅

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

I had a v8 phaeton that the VW techs could never figure out how to align. They said it would be cheaper to buy new tires every 20000k than to buy the part they needed to align it. God I hated working with VW on that car.

[@craigbomer8962]

Oh God, the Phaeton. Only certain dealerships were "Phaeton certified" and had the tooling needed to do everything to those cars. VAG treated the Audi R8 the same way. It was a bunch of money in tools and training the dealership had to pay for to be able to properly service a car they might never see. The dealership I worked for didn't buy into either program, but would still bring those cars in for service. We were an Audi/VW/Porsche/Jaguar store and the only extra model we were set up for was the Carrera GT, and there were exactly two of them in our service area.

[@whistlinlipo]

You can’t beat the sound of those w8s!

[@whistlinlipo]

@Billy Hamilton lol ok dude

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

The 12 cylinder Phaeton...

[@kvrh]

sounds like v6 with broken exhaust

[@volvo09]

Sounds like a 350z... That trumbone sound.

[@deejayimm]

@Billy Hamilton it's so sad how some people will find anything to argue about. Go hug someone who cares about you..

[@tylerspecht7553]

At sea level the w8 would be multiple car lengths ahead even on the roll race. Huge advantage with turbo at that elevation

[@Zsword92]

Bingo

[@robsmith229]

bro why? thats interesting

[@robsmith229]

nvm bro i googled it, cheers

[@tylerspecht7553]

@@robsmith229 yea man its the one huge flaw with this channel is all the testing and races is done at a mile above sea-level supercharged cars, and naturally aspirated cars will always do worse than turbo cars at that elevation.

[@americantrucking6843]

@@tylerspecht7553 Do the supercharged Cars also lose same power as NA ones?

[@mr.boostang2064]

The sound of 8 pistons screaming at full throttle is what's going to make most older cars worth alot in the near future.

[@E_tiBEAMERBOY]

Or the sensation that they give they don't gotta be fast take a first gen Mx5 for example. Looks feel and sound will win out over boring ordinary no noise no sensation cars

[@mr.boostang2064]

@@E_tiBEAMERBOY yes, I had a Ecoboost Mustang with a Ford Racing Tune, thing made 335hp-390trq and was quick for a 4banger. Sadly the engine sounds it made were not pleasing at all. My bone stock Corolla with 132hp sounds better revving than that Mustang did. I never understood why it couldn't sound like the SRT4s or Evos. Now i drive a tuned 3v 4.6 V8 Sporttrac with magnaflows. This thing is slow (0-60 in 6.8sec) but the sound it makes especially in a tunnel is intoxicating. The sound an engine makes is what gives the car its soul.

[@lehelzelenka207]

Since the b5.5 passat had a longitudinally mounted engine it meant it got the 4x4 drivetrain from Audi which used the torsen system. When a VW used a transverse mounted engine, it used a haldex system.

[@deejayimm]

You know, in all the videos you've done where you talk about the difference of altitude and how forced induction helps so much, have you guys ever taken a naturally aspirated version of a vehicle versus a forced induction version of a similar vehicle and done comparison like this, both at sea level, and at altitude? That would make for an interesting video....

[@trevorbrown7224]

That would be really hard to see, since very few (if any) vehicles offer engines of the same performance. The best bet would be a 6 Cylinder vs turbo 4 old vs new generations.

[@fjdg94]

@@trevorbrown7224 you could take the vag 1.8 20v , they made those NA and turbo

[@noehernandez6983]

Plenty of older 2.5L Subarus that were NA and had turbocharged variants with same body (Impreza/Legacy/Outback) would be interested in seeing that comparison living in Colorado myself.

[@chuckydreal9040]

@@fjdg94 I had a passat 20v and now have a a4 turbo 20v. There's definitely a difference on acceleration, but it peaks out and I reckon the passat is a better built car and more comfortable. I always thought of them being grandpa cars, but I want to get rid of the a4 and get bk in a passat

[@daveydmur]

@@trevorbrown7224 do a 2015 and 2016 Honda CR-V. Same engine with and without a turbo, both all wheel drive.

[@ctrl2win]

Few years ago I bought w8 passat for 3500€. It was a project car. I was considering to use the car for a daily. Pain in the ass to work on the engine. Luckily in Europe vw parts are really cheap. So after investing 1500€ in parts and 100h of work I sold the car for 10k. The one thing that sold the car was the insane sound.

[@deejayimm]

I'm so glad you guys are bringing out some of the obscure classics like that W8... My god it's exhaust note is legendary lol

[@makattak88]

I had a B5.5 with the 2.8 VR6, 4Motion GLX. I loved that thing, she just got too expensive to maintain. I love that car though. A lot of people don’t realize how good it really is.

[@Retrotyp]

The 2.8 in the B5 and B5.5 was a true, Audi-derived V6 though. :)

[@makattak88]

@@Retrotyp VR6 It’s a beautiful power plant but it’s actually VW, no?

[@FunYl]

My 1st car was a 2.8 VR6 B4. Loved that engine!

[@Retrotyp]

@@FunYl I wanted one as my first car but could not find one back then. Now recently bought a B3 sedan and VR6-swapped it; Engine is a bliss indeed!

[@scootabrothaa]

b5 didnt come with vr6 either a true v6 or vr5

[@kyleansley]

The real world mpg of that 6spd jetta is insane. I got 47 mpg on the regular in my 2021 before I traded it. It was such a fun car.

[@ashantedula5696]

I guess it wasn't fun enough lol you sold it

[@kyleansley]

@@ashantedula5696 I'm too tall and hurting knees. Regular 9 hr drives from Atlanta to DC were brutal. In essence my thirties hit me too hard. 😆

[@ashantedula5696]

@@kyleansley I hear you what you end up getting.

[@kyleansley]

@@ashantedula5696 a lifted 22 Subaru Ascent

[@IKhanNot]

@@kyleansley Yep. Being in my 30s with many past injuries forced me out of my smaller compact MB C300 to a GLE SUV.

[@agt155]

All 4motion B5/5.5 Passat's had proper full-time 4wd. B5 generation Passat was based on the Audi A4/A6 and so shared the same Quattro 4wd system. Haldex was used on smaller transverse engined VAG cars like the Golf/A3/TT

[@meanyheadmoto]

i thought they were awd. 4wd implies a transfer case. awd uses a transaxle. 4motion is awd. 4xmotion is full time 4wd as on my touareg.

[@MihaiGradin]

Another interesting comparison would have been between the new Jetta and the MK4 Jetta with a 1.8T. I mean... both have just as much power. Quite curious on a comparison. I think they're pretty close in weight too.

[@poppaschlong2000]

The W8 Passat had a Torsen AWD system. Same as audi A6 Quattro. Very robust system

[@KingofInterns]

But massive drivetrain losses...

[@andycapo9you]

@@KingofInterns You don't care when it gets you trough a snow storm safe. One is a cheap entry car, the other was loaded and probably will last longer than that Jetta

[@KingofInterns]

@@andycapo9you you are talking to someone with a 5.4 L V8 AMG C-class wagon :) that I daily drive all year round Let's just say I would take the W8 over the 4 banger...

[@poppaschlong2000]

@KingofInterns I hear ya. I daily drove my D3 Audi S8 with the V10 for 5 years. It was unstoppable. Even with 20" winter tires. Best car I ever owned

[@terrancepemberton4648]

I had a 2003 Volkswagen Passat W8, and I don't know a lot about transmissions and all that but all I know was mine was great on slick or snow covered roads.

[@mujjuman]

As a VW guy: It was really cool that VW crammed big engines in these cars with the VR6 in the Golf/Jetta and the W8 in the Passat. It's similar to what Mercedes did with their V12 AMG models... the issue is having the space to do maintenance and repairs when something breaks which requires dropping the engine and sometimes the transmission.

[@krane15]

The tight fit is an unfortunate compromise. But being able to get an 8 cylinder into the bay of a mid-size car was an incredible feat. These are just a few of the things the hater here don't recognize.

[@vwlukas]

The elevation killed the W8, I bet the difference would have been much more dramatic at sea level.

[@wargames43]

its a reason why at the time european cars did not have as much turbos since most of europe is at sea level compared to the states

[@rojosavw]

I love seeing VW content. Watched the whole video. I have a ‘22 Jetta Sport. (Came from a c7 Vette) such great gas mileage on the Jetta. I was able to get 50.6 on my way to work at 70-75 mph. Small tank gave me 520 miles of range. Good job VW

[@roberthall7419]

W8 Passat is still the coolest Passat ever made by far! Sounds so good! I had a 2003 2.8 5 spd was a fun car, but no comparison to a W8

[@andrewborden1009]

Agreed. One of the only sedans I would ever consider adding to my garage

[@adyandrey23andrey]

This and the R36!

[@romka_ind]

So what is fun in a heavy, thirsty, slow car that has vague steering?

[@adyandrey23andrey]

@@romka_ind it's just that it's cool man. It's a cool car. You may be very young, like under 22-23yo and can't get the concept of a rare, big-engined, special edition of a normal car. A car doesn't have to have 500hp and do the 0-100kph in 2.5 seconds, come on. If you think that, then you may not really be a car person. If you are very young, then I understand you can't go back in time 15-20 years and immagine how cool it was seeing a boring Passat going by but soundign like a muscle car. The idea of a cool car doesn't revolve just around horsepower and lap times. It's also about the rarity, and the way it makes you feel when just driving or seeing it going down the road.

[@adyandrey23andrey]

@@romka_ind now I've seen that you actually follow car channel as well as the Grand Tour. It amazes me that you cannot find a W8 Passat at least a little bit interesting. Especially for what it meant for future development of their engines. But you do you.

[@BigDaysOut]

If I lived in the US I would bid for the Passat! Great content as usual guys. How all the tfl channels don’t have over a million subs is beyond me.

[@richsarchet9762]

The W8 is great, but I love my Jetta S with the 6-speed, a warranty and easily over 40 mpg. I do wish it sounded like the W8 though.

[@kowalskikowalski8080]

How is highway performance? I'm fixin' to get one. Premium gas?

[@tiberone5957]

@@kowalskikowalski8080 Regular 87 is all it needs.

[@meercm]

How to stretch a 1.5 minute video into a 16 minute one.

[@hugobloemers4425]

If you are sad to let it go, then don't let it go. BTW, little fun fact, the Jetta is not for sale in Germany/Europe, but they do have the Passat estate (only, and is very popular as Police car) and the only saloon is the Arteon which is basically a Passat with a different name and some more up market styling clues. It is kind of strange that the only VW saloon in the US is smaller than the only VW saloon in Europe.

[@EnthusiastCarHangar]

You are right. Everyone on KZbin is always so sad to let it go but does it for content.

[@brendanao]

Interesting info! I honestly just don't drive it that much anymore and would love to see it go to someone that can appreciate it for how special it is.

[@petelattimer6808]

and the passat estate is being dropped, so ive heard.

[@Bluegrassriver8]

The Arteon has much more style and excitement than a Passat.

[@hugobloemers4425]

@@Bluegrassriver8 That's what I was indicating, the Arteon is POSH Passat.

[@TheDeepblue1911]

I love the sound of the W8. I drive it daily and would not give it away.

[@meikelkneit4345]

Hello! Only 2359 cars were built in three years from the Passat W8. So this version is super rare for a modell from Volkswagen. With best regards from Germany! 😀

[@DJ.1001]

Jetta isn't the lone sedan, we still have the Arteon.

[@koylesmasterpeice]

The first gen 1.8t in those b5.5 Passats was an amazing engine the were also mounted laterally. Added those Passats were made in Germany. If you serviced them with a good mechanic and used good parts they were super reliable cars.

[@ronnymb67]

I had a 2003 6-speed. Got it new. Some MagnaFlow exhaust work and Wetterauer chip. It ran a 14.4 at sea level. It was a fun car. Are you sure that's Indigo Blue? It looks more like Pacific Blue, which was a W8-only color. My 2001 GLX was Indigo and my W8 was Pacific Blue. The VW touch up paint actually read Petrol Pearl Effekt. I had mine for about 80,000 miles and it was relatively bulletproof. Other than typical for the day with German vehicles - fuel pump, a few window regulator clips, and the infamous W8 thermostat. I had no problem with the tensioners. But then again I maintain my vehicles differently than other people lol. It got its first oil change at 1,000 miles then every 5,000 miles as long as I owned it. In all honesty, of all the vehicles I've owned before and since my W8, it is the one I wish I kept. Even more rare were the six-speed W8 wagons. I think they only imported 96 if memory serves me.

[@kowalskikowalski8080]

The Jetta Base Manual will be my next car. At first I wanted a Subaru Crosstrek manual but it was ridiculously slow.

[@ColeSexton]

Look into APR stage one tuning once you do, you won't regret it. Just an ECU flash.

[@kowalskikowalski8080]

@@ColeSexton Will that affect warranty and gas mileage?

[@kowalskikowalski8080]

@@ColeSexton I looked at their website. They have nothing for the 1.5t

[@ColeSexton]

@@kowalskikowalski8080 oh bummer! Well I would guess maybe since it’s so new they are still working on one then. For my mileage, I’ve not noticed any decrease in mpg with normal driving. I commute 160 miles once a week on 55mph roads and average about 43-45mpg in good conditions.

[@901blitz]

Just got that exact car. Can't believe what you can get for 23k CAD + tax and fees of course. Makes me glad I didn't buy the Subaru Outback for 15k more, even if it has more space.

[@londomollari2148]

The W8 Passat ist build for relaxed driving with top Speed on German "Autobahn". Not for Drag !

[@krane15]

The haters don't know enough to know what they don't know.

[@shtopfl5247]

Wow I love the W8 , that sound 😍😍😍😍

[@ianpgonzaga]

Great video! That W8 sound is incredible. Love it.

[@CarringtonHollister]

The Arteon is technically a sedan with a hatchback style trunk/boot so technically the Jetta is not the only sedan that Volkswagen sells in the USA.

[@LukeEdward]

THANK YOU!!

[@TheBile27]

Thank you a lot for this episode, i'm watching from Brazil!

[@michelhadid]

My god, that sound. Sounds like a pissed off VR6. Like a VR6 on steroids. Amazing

[@westeed1]

The center headrest in the Passat is massive.

[@garageamsterdam]

@11:00 you forget that the Passat W8 has little chrome strips underneath the taillights. Very subtle detail but its there. Willem Holleeder one of the people that kidnapped Freddy Heineken. And also one of the most legendary Dutch gangsters of the 80's 90's and 00's. Drove a bulletproof Passat W8

[@Jettaonwashers]

As a b5.5 owner I was rooting for it the whole time

[@Bluegrassriver8]

The VW W8 is just so scarce and classic automotive legend material

[@BigSteve_Gaming187]

I love my 04' Passat GL Wagon. Has the 1.8T (170h.p. stock) 5-Speed. Grey & Anthracite interior with Shadow Blue Metallic Exterior color. Very few of my exact type registered and on the road today.

[@Bluegrassriver8]

I have the 2001 Passat Wagon 1.8T with 112,000 miles

[@BigSteve_Gaming187]

@@Bluegrassriver8 I got s set of my buddies glx 16in alloys to replace the steelie 15in it came with. I have alot planned for it. Planning on being at next year's VolksFest and GermanFest in Wisconsin next year. This last year I went to VolksFest with it still relatively stock. Was the X wife's for 8+ years. Thankfully she didn't beat on it like we did with her 93' Integra Candy Apple Red with the 1.8L N/A . Tend 2 slow down once yuh become a parent. Still have fun tho when it's the rite type of place tho. Take good care of it. Gonna be spending a great deal under it next spring to tackle any rust and so on.

[@BigSteve_Gaming187]

@@Bluegrassriver8 by the way my first name is Steven too. LoL

[@tonyd.3430]

Old Passt W8 vs. the newer Passat 2.0 BiTDI (240hp) would be interesting. Both have a 0- 60 of~ 6,4 sec...

[@Brian-bq8tj]

Man that V8 sounds good! If I saw that driving on the road with that sound I'd be very confused cause I never new they made those with 8 cylinders

[@RWL2012]

it's a W8!

[@romka_ind]

@@RWL2012 technically it is a v8, the fact that cylinders in the block are not positioned in a straight line diesent make a big difference.

[@SladeWilsonOG]

@@romka_ind u feel better u got ya rocks off

[@silver911100]

I love those b5 and b5. 5 passats great cars. I've driven more than one coast to coast multiple times. They ride like German caddy's

[@frankhassle9366]

Indeed! My dad's 2005 TDI is still going strong, and that thing feels as solid as a tank! I was recently in a fairly new Acura sedan, and it felt like a tin can in comparison.

[@RETARDMOBILE]

Sitting in one right now. DD a 2003 1.8 wagon

[@markkuvuori4300]

My car is a Passat 5 1999. 570800 km (357000miles) and works fine. It does on average 5,13 litres/100 km (47 mpg) .1,9 tdi AJM 115 hp engine.

[@incasejstn]

I love the W8! I’m so tempted to bid on it!

[@santosh911]

Love these old vs modern performance comparison. Keep it up and expand it to include cornering and subjective handling tests.

[@atmartens]

The generation after this Passat was one of my favorites. Clean and simple design.

[@petrebrandigi655]

I currently have the exact same W8 Passat but it’s dark gray, it’s a wagon, it has the 2 piece factory BBS wheels and god if it snaps necks on the road! Love the car, doing my best to get her all prepped up for Wookiee in the Woods in April 2023. If any of you guys will be up there you will have a chance to see her! Great video, was waiting for it to come out!🕺🏼✌🏻

[@bilalahmed2123]

That Passat is beautiful ! Just a beauty.

[@MarcelloTheBandit]

They might be close at a mile above sea level, but how long are you willing to keep your foot in the loud pedal? I'd be willing to find the speed limiter in the W8.... many times.

[@PetrolHeadBrasil]

Comparing 270hp with 158hp!? REALLY?!

[@krane15]

Your point? You can compare apples to oranges under the right conditions. I will admit this one was on the low scale of best comparisons. Pulling it together only in size.

[@OldThomMerton]

Tommy, you are right, that Passat sounds awesome!!!

[@silver911100]

Hold it...... That w8 is MANUAL!!!!! very very rare

[@TheVintageApplianceEmporium]

Love the way Mericans say "Passaaat". It's Pass-at over here in the UK. The sound of that W8 is incredible

[@TheCamper83]

I personally got a 13.8 second quarter mile (on track) at 101 mph in my 2013 3.7 liter manual Mustang. Factory 0 to 60 rated at 5.1 seconds. 99 percent of muscle cars from the 60's and 70's couldn't match those numbers in stock form. Would love to see some more new vs old comparisons like this one that you did!

[@Nordlicht05]

I remember the manual w8 was around 1 second faster to 100kph than the automatic version and that was the official number.

[@trentp_outdoors7922]

The sound that came out of the Passat surprised me I had to rewind 😂

[@jfsiiiautomotivereviews8343]

Wow. That W8 sounds amazing!

[@ColeSexton]

Get an APR stage one on that Jetta STAT! 180HP/255TQ

[@angelgjr1999]

Too much money, just get a Mustang. 🐎

[@ColeSexton]

Lol the apr stage one is $400

[@angelgjr1999]

@@ColeSexton not bad

[@ColeSexton]

@@angelgjr1999 Yea! It's a wild performance upgrade for the money that's for sure.

[@angelgjr1999]

@@ColeSexton what does the kit include?

[@donvoisko]

Wouldn’t care if the Passat loose. Still a cool car, still want one. Great sound!

[@leonpreloznjak880]

You guys really got lost in your own video........from 1.5 to 1.4 engine dispacement, to renaiming Jetta to Passat....very funny, really enjoyed that

[@Vaigue]

That w8 Jesus, it sounds insane

[@antonreprovos6251]

20 years later and the passat is just fine, i have one (20V 1.8 Naturaly aspirated) and still goes like a charm with minor problems when new vw's in 2040 will have broken engines or the oil consumtion will be higher than gasolines 🤣🤣

[@mohammadbinbishr5167]

W8 is my choice due to it's rare and unique 👌

[@slyguyaction]

Amazing sound out of that W8. Wish VW was still using it. Even though the rumor is that they're switching back to manual switches, I'm glad VW went for full capacitive switchgear in my '21 VW ID.4. Love it. Great video!!

[@romka_ind]

Fuel consumption of that Passat is pure stupid, and it is slow.

[@TheHuskyGT]

I'm actually more impressed on the W8, not because of how special and how awesome it sounds, but because it is a 180,000 mile car what weighs 1000 pounds more and it's also an N/A at high altitude. That Passat is probably not putting out much more HP than that brand new Jetta and still beat it.

[@doloresberry3144]

This is an awesome content concept. Love the VW vids too!

[@Lewis_Treff97]

I've got a mk7 Golf R-line with the 1.4tsi and would love to see how it compares to the mk4 golf r32 on the drag strip. Although it's modified now.

[@TopGoose-bf1mx]

Crazy, the W8 was slower than my B5.5 2004 1.8T 4Motion 5-Speed Passat sedan. 100% bone stock, not a single modification. It went a 16.54 at 83mph. That was at 3698FT DA.

[@notroll1279]

I'd have expected a bigger difference with the brakes. Even if all the components in the W8 had been renewed, I'd have thought that the weight difference and more modern anti lock brake system would have made a huge difference.

[@ec6933]

Now this is the content I want

[@rcwanderlust757]

What about the Arteon, are they still making it? That slightly modded W8 exhaust sounds pretty amazing!

[@legostarwarsrulez]

I’m sure they just forgot about it but I think it’s technically a sportback or hatchback, not a “sedan”

[@Bluegrassriver8]

yes, the Arteon is incredible.

[@super_slav91]

I drove a w8 for a while slow AF but also smooth, it wasnt made for speed. I would still own the w8.

[@theskig]

The W8 was super cool, even in exterior design (the sedan, not the station wagon). I remember seeing one in centre of Milan when I was at university 20 years ago. I'd love to own one.

[@jasoncerullo4706]

Right now, I own my 2nd W8! 😆 I had an 2003 W8 tiptronic 10 yrs ago, but I found this current one in St. Louis and it only has 52,000 miles! It's the other kind of blue, light grey interior and...the 6spd manual. I want to cut off the mufflers, like this one is in the video, and get that sound. I've heard of engine tunes, to get the w8 over 300-350hp.

[@thecleanoffroader]

High altitude really kills that power. I would pull 15.5 in 1/4 mile in my 1985.5 Porsche 944 in New Hampshire

[@davidcohen4237]

Great video guys, would love to see you guys compare this against the old base model Jetta..... was literally scarily slow

[@thecleanoffroader]

I loved my B4 1997 Passat GLX VR6 5 speed fully Loaded

[@67tomcat]

While not a "sedan" per se, the Arteon is still available and a great car too! The 2022/23 Jetta has a 1.5T engine too.

[@Geitzeist]

My lowly '04 Passat TDI has wood and leather interior, as well.

[@detonater1348]

I'm very certain that the previous owner removed the suitcase muffler on the W8 Edit: yep, they mentioned that in video. I commented before watching that part. P.s: Mann I regret not experiencing that deep raspy exhaust sound from my B6 VR6 passat wagon. Even with all those muffler it sounded real good. But I procrastinated too much and at 190k oil cooler failed and started mixing oil with coolant. Also plastic chain guide pieces started coming out during oil change...I scrapped her for $900. Considering that I bought it for the exact same price and driving it for 2 years without single garage visits that was a win win for me. Easily one of the best cars I ever had and the car that got me in love with VW products.

[@mitchellmounts9044]

I have a W8 Wagon 6-speed manual. I love it I literally don't think I'll ever sell it and I'm pretty sure I want it buried with me when I go 😂😂😂

[@rafael2457]

I'm in the same situation, I've owned w8 passat for 4 years and decided to keep it forever) I apologize if I wrote it wrong somewhere, I'm from Russia)

[@romka_ind]

Congratulations guys you have overcomplicated, heavy slow car that eats a lot of gas and that is a VW in the end, but at least it is rare and quite unique.

[@renespeed01]

@@romka_ind dude, shut up

[@gtaseed]

@@romka_ind Eh... you wouldn't get it

[@SeptimTHEking]

"Gosh this W8 sounds good" 😆 Great!

[@razorbladesign]

love that sound!

[@martinekjekul]

I own a w8, and top speed between those two cars is what really seperates them. Acceleration is sick in w8 and especially if you use knockdown on automatic transmission. I haven't tried the top speed, the fastest i dared to go was 280 km/h but i know it can go faster :D Its a great car.

[@Fiftyfiv3hundr3d]

I feel like “A true Wolfsburg in sheep’s clothing” would have been a clever idiom.

[@jb-fl7le]

you wanna talk about another rare gem... back in the day you could get a Volvo s80 sedan saloon with the yamaha v8. namely the B8444S. however it was a transverse mounted v8. nonetheless... it had a great exhaust note and even better with a after market exhaust set up. this passat and the volvo s80 were the only other european v8 sedan alternatives to the merc and bmw and jaguar sedan line ups.

[@chadmitchell8537]

There is definitely not enough of us W8 owners out here to offend! Best of luck with the sale

[@sakou1237]

I bought a w8 wagon a month ago and I can not find engine parts for this thing lmao where do you find parts? Mine leaks from a line going to the oil cooler/filter housing from the engine driving me mad

[@romka_ind]

@@sakou1237 thats the exclusuve thing about those, you don't

[@mikedaleiden7725]

After driving a '22+ 6m/t Jetta w/ the newer 1.5T, I think VW has sandbagged the power numbers on that torquey little engine. It feels every bit as quick as Honda's 180ish HP 1.5turbo in the Civic touring. Simply amazing for a 'base' engine that can get upper 40'smpg hwyfuel economy for $22k.

[@MitkoFilipov]

the b5/5.5 passat uses torsen like audi with longitudinal engines. the golf/jetta and a3/tt use the haldex, and i think from the b6 passat onward it also uses the haldex. so that 4 motion badge doesn't tell you anything, its just a brand.

[@Theonedjneo]

270/273 was pretty good back then considering a Mustang gt was only pushing 260hp. Most econo cars at that time were barely making 140hp, so I'd take it. 🤷‍♂️

[@MalachiBurke]

Stock Camaro Z was doing sub 14s quarter mile at that time. If cheap speed was your thing, it was the Z. Not very luxurious though...

[@TakeoMack]

Buddy I have a 2003 Passat W8 and I absolutely LOVE it!!! Best thing is I got it for $1,000!!!!

[@jasonmcconnell5412]

I wish I could buy that. Ever since I saw it back in the day on the channel I wanted. In high school I wanted one. So rare. Like a c4 Callaway corvette. I want this car for history, sound, and comfort. Those seats are amazing.

[@krane15]

I supervised they even found a Passat with an 8 cylinder. There was so few of them made and sold in the U.S. I've only seen a total of one.

[@omnitraveller]

That W8 makes such an interesting sound

[@Bacon12954]

As someone who's owned very old VWs, japanese cars, and american cars, I can tell you that at higher mileage and age the VWs are significantly more dependable. It's really only in the first 10 years or so that Japanese cars are known to be problem free. I've seen very few Japanese cars that aren't falling apart after 15 years.

[@terrancepemberton4648]

I used to own a 2003 Volkswagen Passat W8. I wished to god I had a manual but instead I had the tiptronic automatic and it was still a freaking badass little car. I used to race other cars in my town all the time and there wasn't a whole lot of vehicles that were beating me in my passat lol. Fastest I've ever been was in that thing and I had it 155mph on I-40W between Knoxville and Harriman one time. That thing would fly. I've seen videos of these on the autobahn in Germany topping out about 175mph which is pretty wild. If only they could have made my passat a bit lighter it would have been even faster. Probably the favorite car I've ever owned. Maintenance on everything was pricey tho. God forbid something major happen to it cause even replacing a head light, brakes or anything was way more expensive than what I was used to. Even a oil change was pricey lol It holds like 9.2 quarts of oil. Loved those cars tho. Mine was stock and a beast. I' can only imagine doing some mods to it. Mine was Gold, had heated leather seats, rain sensors, had a bad ass factory stereo and a 5 disc changer(this thing had an amp in the trunk just for the factory speakers and it sounded nice. All around a really nice car and i got a steal on it at the time I purchased it).

[@Mikefawbush]

I actually had one of these back in 2015. Felt a lot faster than what it was. The sound was great, it had a different intake . Was great in the snow

[@beegxxc9832]

There's some kind of massive body lean to the back in the Passat B5 when you accelerate which makes you think you feel G's from acceleration when it's actually just very soft suspension. My friend had that car and thought he could take on other friend's bimmer after a ride in it he said "lol it barely moves, I'm gonna smoke you in my Passat"... he lost badly when they raced. The bimmer was much more stiff so you didn't feel that lean but in reality it's been faster.

[@Mikefawbush]

@@beegxxc9832 That actually makes sense. I have a focus ST now. With around 300 hp. It's almost three seconds faster in the quarter, than the W8. Wouldn't even be a close race. It's a a four cylinder lol.

[@beegxxc9832]

@@Mikefawbush Focus ST is an overkill to race a Passat B5. I think most of 180-200hp hatchbacks would do the job. The sound of W12 is still sick though. I'd like to take long trip in that car on the autobahn, that's what it's made for.

[@dalejones4322]

Great video guys.

[@hansdomke89]

Saw a W8 Passat for sale for less than 3k. But the guy wasnt responding to my messages. By chance I later bought a VR6 Jetta for $500. It has the Tiptronic with some issues. But it still drives.

[@dzelpwr]

Love this. VW really did make some interesting, solid-feeling cars back then. All the sheet metal felt much thicker than the current VWs. The strut mounts on all their cars these days seem to transmit quite a bit more noise than the older designs I've found as well. I seem to hear expansion joints and tire tread noise much more noticeably on the newer cars than I do Mk4 and B5 era stuff. Probably not the most reliable, but not as unreliable as the internet would have you believe. Part of the issue is when they do finally need something, they can be very labor-intensive to fix and being a low-production engine, it means the parts cost is also elevated. So, just expensive to fix, but not necessarily that it's super unreliable. It's just that when it needs repairs, it sticks out in your mind more because of the impact it's had on your wallet. A manual-equipped W8 wagon is on my wish list to complete the 'Piech Trifecta' of VW branded vehicles I really want from the era. Already own the V10 TDI powered Touareg, now just need to add a W12 Phaeton and the above-mentioned W8-powered manual wagon.

[@GardenofBCD]

I have a 30 valve v6 03 passat and honestly it’s so hard to get info on this type of car, I’m starting to really enjoy it and I’ve had mine about over a year