Old World Army Guide: Wood Elves Overview

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Announcement: Some of the Graphics have a couple of mistakes and for that we are very sorry. It is a lot of data to reproduce and do fast and so we haven't given ourselves much wiggle room on editing and proof reading. We hope you understand and we will try harder in the future. Loads of thanks. The Square Based team

[@jakeherrod7494]

Is there a comment somewhere that has the edits to what mistakes there were and the correct info? Thanks! Love your content.

[@djludowici536]

It’s amazing you produced it so quickly from some blurry screenshots.

[@Husker44g]

Wadda ya mean!?? I'm super excited about Glad Guard with BS 5.. maybe not my opponents? :)

[@capt.mannerings8095]

Love what you are doing for the community.

[@xavierwong1889]

@@bennyboy5374 it’s still “step up” so while causalities are removed from the rear as a model perspective, the ones dying are in the front rank so they lose attacks as models die before they attack

[@melvinpjg]

The sheer amount of effort put into this clear and very easy to follow presentation is very much appriciated. Most blokes just mumble about in a book they've seemed to have opened mere seconds prior to filming.

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Thankyou for the compliment. We believe you deserve the best content we can make

[@kingofcoinjock]

Can't wait until he does the high elves

[@ph1lb3rt]

So much better than man reads book. Love it! ~30min is perfect length. I appreciate getting insight and theory crafting as well as rules displayed, can’t wait to see the rest

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thankyou so much. Man who reads book reads so we can teach

[@Kobold-George]

This was exactly the video I was hoping it would be, looking forward to the Warriors of Chaos one but going to watch them all

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

I appreciate that so much thankyou!!!

[@nurglematthew]

I like the part where they talk about models that inhabit square bases

[@djludowici536]

And some of them are on rectangles!! It’s like 2 squares hearts become one.

[@thomasc6684]

The best Old World content out there, from someone who doesn’t even have the book! Thanks Rob, really enjoying you and Val’s coverage of Old World. Going to join Patreon now.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

That means so much. Can only do this full time if we get support so thankyou

[@NoireRequiemXIX]

LET’S GOOO!!! SQUARE BASSED. Thanks for making a genuinely informative yet concise take on the datasheets and rules Rob. Quality as usual

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

My pleasure x

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

Seconding this sentiment. Clear, clean, and informative.

[@Hobbitonhold]

You've blown away everything I seen. I love this and can keep up and actually get what to expect from units. Well done.

[@nickvaughn7300]

Please keep making these. By far the best faction review/discussion I have seen.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

New one up later I hope

[@zdthane]

I was a wood elf player from 6th all the way to warhammer armies project, and I have to say I'm actually really excited about what they have done with the army list. My spooky forest Boys are looking fun

[@grimnir8872]

One thing to mention is Wood Elves are not a gunline army, they're in fact the exact opposite, they're a gun-net. Your opponent is playing a Rank-and-flank game and you're playing 40k.

[@ulysescolon2183]

This quality of army discussion video is unparalleled. The hard work shows. Thank you. -Signed Squareheadmcgoo

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Means so much. Thankyou

[@RichSanders]

There's a guy I play HH with that was asking about how to get into the game and what wood elves were like. Sent him a bunch of vids like man reads book and old eefl posts. Then this vid dropped and he said it was the most helpful thing he's found about them. Keep making great stuff dude

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

That makes me so happy

[@SteeleGames]

Really hope we see a Beastmen vs. Wood Elves box, I want to bulk out both of those armies and I hope we see some great new models!

[@clintseppowitz5642]

Please don't stop doing this kind of content. Love getting more army overviews in The Old World. Thanks for creating awesome videos on the KZbins!

[@foxleaf9867]

This is like the tenth time I’ve watched this vid. I love these info rich enthusiastic videos. Good to reference when building or thinking about your army. 10/10😄

[@Idle_Wilder]

Square Based is just absurdly good all round - sky is the limit for this channel ladz!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

appreciate that!

[@Bog_Dog]

My inner child is sooo excited at the prospect of wood elves! I'll have to watch again, but subscribed to the patreon, amazing work thanks!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Oh wow!! Thanks for the support

[@brotherworm]

I keep coming back to this video in between list building, there seems to a lot of different ways to run wood elves in this edition. I love it.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Is it helpful?? Hope so

[@brotherworm]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld Yes all of your content is great for getting an idea of the rules, and the nuances of the of this new edition. This one is also great since I don't have rules yet and want to get an idea of what to bring in my first games. I keep trying to figure out what to bring. I really want to try maxing terror, panic arrows and all the different minus to leadership stuff.

[@Nekorook]

I like that you put up text between shots of you talking. Too many are just talking about the rules with either out of focus book shots or no text. I like being able to read it to help in remembering it. thank you Rob.

[@jimirowe7006]

Great content guys. I’ve seen so many videos of other big channels (who likely got sent all these books well before release) mumble through the book in a non-structured format without really adding any thoughts or insights. Bravo

[@borbicus2766]

Keep these army overviews coming please!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

One a day or I die

[@michaeljack4788]

No die. Yes overviews.@@SquareBasedOldWorld

[@Gizimpy]

I'm scrubbing 15 year-old paint off of Glade Guard and rebasing to 25mm. It's just wonderful, the sculpts look nicer on a larger square. The arrow options are gonna be fun, and I hope we don't have to wait too long for our refresh. And seeing good reviews like this makes it that much more exciting.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

I hope you have the best time!

[@andrewm.9025]

twine for bowstrings is a nice add-on as well, to go with arrows. I've seen wire and string used, but I prefer twine.

[@bennyboy5374]

8:24 skipped the bad part of arrow of Kurnous, the enemy get +1 when rolling to get the first turn. Getting the first turn is very good for WE as they can then shoot first and hopefully taking out most part of the enemies archers

[@djludowici536]

I love that you just got to the thicket/thick of it. Gold

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thank you babe

[@jackrogers5712]

You have the best TOW reviews on KZbin. Keep it up! Looking forward to Beastmen. 😅

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Going as fast as I can!! Thanks for the comment

[@demarderubo]

Already liked the video but coming back after hearing your comments in the most recent podcast...this video is REALLY GOOD. It's by far the best Old World content out there at the moment, it was very clear and the graphics are top notch. Thank you #squarebassed team. Looking forward to the Bretonnia guide.

[@davidweeks745]

Incredibly well put together, well done guys! New player to old/fanasty Warhammer so i was hoping to find a video that balanced rule breakdowns and character/unit descriptions and you did just that! Blown away and i cannot wait to follow your helpful insights for this game in the future 🙌

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks so much David!!

[@shamladphil5735]

I've pulled out my woodelf army from the early 00's. I traded a beast man army but never assembled or painted it. Have been out the hobby for 18 years but keen to get my woodelves on the tabletop

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Hope you have a great time!

[@vzgg1973]

Great content and useful analysis of str and weaknesses. I think the “arrow line” is totally fine for games where ppl know what is being bought but has big weaknesses, the biggest being “will my opponent enjoy playing me” it could be just as bad as playing boring gunlines & very likely be nurtured by TOs. As a long time WE player the previous edition influences still keep this faction one of the harder ones to master and imho should be approached as “multiple types of units” armies as trying to mitigate weaknesses is key to WE going well rather then leaning on shooting.

[@GreatMachination]

This is fantastic, Rob. Very quick and concise which is quite hard to do at times. This gave me something to chew on now so, I thank you sir. Super excited!

[@djludowici536]

One of my favourite armies. Loving this Rob!! Loved the little theme taster at the start. Maybe show some possible Minis for each unit for players new to each army (could be a seperate video and include GW minis and non Gw minis/STLs. I’d watch all of those)

[@collinl5023]

Awesome stuff, glad to see Wood Elves a favorite of mine.

[@ColonelTacki]

This isn't half assed "man read book content." There's a lot of enthusiasm in this. I just came from the Warriors of Chaos video and I'm definitely enjoying this format of videos. Please do all the armies! And thanks for the info and entertainment!

[@wessmarkart3041]

This is the stuff we want and need. Thank you Rob, super exhited for all the vidios to come!

[@wessmarkart3041]

Also thank you Val, you are great too

[@TheOrros]

oh man cant wait to get back in this.. i used to run 2 units of archers, 3 glade riders, wardancers and a wardancer lord.. it was sooo fun running circles on the table

[@stevendouglas335]

This was a great watch. Never played fantasy and tempted by Wood Elves for Old World. As ever your content is amazing Rob, look forward to more of these for the other factions.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Appreciate you thanks

[@jchesney83]

The army I always wanted to collect! Thanks, this is the first Old World content on them I've seen.

[@LakeyWargames]

Thanks for taking the time to put this together Rob. I've been keeping one eye opening on the OW stuff as it came out and Wood Elves would be the one thing to pull me back in if I do and so to have this information so awesomely presented is a great resource for someone like me wanting to have a peak behind the curtain before dipping any toes into the water just yet. Keep up the great work! :)

[@jameshawkins5445]

Thanks very much for going through the list like this - this is exactly what players want to see before getting back into the game.

[@Th3Gl4ds0meB34st]

Thank you for this. As someone thinking about getting into this game this was a huge help.

[@jacekay6031]

Amazing. Super pumped for you and will be consuming every second of content you and Val produce. I know you must be frantically rushing these out so I've listed a few little things I noticed. 16:11 The visual for Glade Guard and Deepwood Scouts lists them as BS5 instead of BS4. You correctly say "BS4" though. 28:12 You mention the Waywatcher special arrows are cheaper than for glade guard but they are the same. Your visual correctly has them the same. 28:54 You say the Treeman has 6 attacks but it only has 5. Your visual has it correct. 29:50 Your visual for the great eagle has some rather interesting options listed that I'm sure aren't in the book! None of it takes away from the video though.

[@tompennifold7409]

Yeah, you’re smashing these. A lot of more effort put in than other vids. Cheers rob. Dwarves next!

[@Perkustin]

Great Video, it looks like they put a bunch of love into the Wood Elves, they sound incredibly formidable.

[@ElOvnen]

Great video! Really like the mix of army overview and first impressions. I also feel like you hit somewhat of a sweet spot with how long to show the rules graphics. I couldn't read most of it in the time it was up, but it was up just long enough to skim and decide whether I wanted to pause the video to read or not. I like this kind of information-dense reference video that are perfect for rewatching (already am). As someone who haven't engaged with rectangular based games since the mid 90's (and who's visualization abilities are mostly non-existent), I was really hoping to see an example at the end of the video of how a WE army *could* look like. You were already kinda giving a loose outline of your ideas for a WE army throughout the video. It would have been very helpful for me to have that summed up as a text or graphic at the end. EDIT: It wouldn't even need to have exact points values. Just a somewhat rough outline of what an army *could* look like. Basically, more or less what you were describing verbally - but presented visually :) Maybe even just a 1250 pts example 'army list' rather than a full 2000 (1999?) pts army? As the only real points of comparison that currently exist are the TK and Bret boxes.

[@RicketySettra]

This was fantastic. My fear is that each one of these will make me want to start a new army!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Hey that's not on me! Don't put that evil in me ricky bobby

[@klavakkhazga3996]

That's a lot of work for this vid! Could you guys upload them as podcasts too please?

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Being done already

[@Anjouvis]

Thank you for making this video Rob, I love it.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

My pleasure. More to come

[@graysonwalker9583]

Thanks so much Rob. I know it's been a hard time getting these out and we appreciate you immensely for doing it. Don't kill yourself to get it done though, we understand if it takes an extra day

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks so much for that!

[@BigPapaCA]

Holy moly, everything I've ever wanted in a single video. ❤

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

THANKS XXX

[@PRAISE_HASHUT]

I’ve loved your commentary so far, but this rules review/dive is really quality stuff. Look forward to watching along to the rest of them. The Wood Elves feel like they have a good showing here. A tricky, finesse army that in the right hands are going to run rings round the plethora of Bret and TK armies out there. Feels like a good representation of the army with some of the best aspects of their 6th and 8th iterations.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

PRAISE HASHUT

[@ollikainulainen9590]

except what i have seen so far wood elfs are getting wiped easily by brets and tk and probably by other armies. Wood elf shooting is made pretty bad and if you want it to be better its overcosted compared to other armies. Also most of the wood elf cc unit just get rekt byt other armies cc troops.

[@furiousfilth1768]

Love this break down. Got the special rules on the screen is top as it can be missed. Can’t wait for you break down the rest. Sub activated!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks for the support

[@geraldpower5031]

So...so helpful. Thanks Rob!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

I appreciate the comment so much thanks

[@zacharylavenia6814]

Preordered the books but this is the army box I am waiting for. Definitely looking forward to any future videos about this army.

[@SimonCarl93]

I'd love to see more like this. Subscribed and now waiting for the Dwarfs.

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

Very well put together and delivered - thanks.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

You rule thankyou

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld I'm really looking forward to the Dwarfs one. Right now I'm not looking forward to my Dwarfs having to go up against these Elves though!

[@Descent9]

Hearing unit names definitely brought back memories of my orcs and goblins trying to cross a no terain table to my friends wood elf army.

[@Patrice008]

Another great overview vid cheers. Would love to have pictures of the models accompanying the explains.

[@SanFranSicko]

Wood Elves and Ogres have been my favorite armies since 6th and it looks like they kept the woodies awesome flavor. Great work on the video!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks so much for your support

[@Zaphodox]

What they have done with wood elves is incredible; 4 different arrow types! This will also allow for some great but simple conversions; flaming arrows, arrows dripping with green poison!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Flaming arrows will look so cool

[@redsven7624]

Lord in eternal guard, tolled up with a hail of doom arrow slipped in there for either a shooting boost of a nasty stand and shoot was always a favourite of mine

[@LokiDokiGG]

Perfect guide to the basics of the army, can't wait for more

[@poxous3854]

I still don't understand why GW makes living tree flammable but oh well.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Is a tree?

[@poxous3854]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld go try to light a living tree on fire. You can't. Green, aka living wood, does not burn. It's mostly water. Dead wood burns.

[@lorgor4eva]

My favourite faction ❤️. I had them many years ago, but not anymore. Old world will give me the chance to rectify this. Got the books & map on pre-order for now. Plan on building the treemen, dryads & treekin using some sylveneth my aos army also. Thanks, Rob, for the overview. You & val with all your hype has got me hyped once again, having started fantasy in the 4th edition.

[@colindeane14]

Everyone else is saying the same thing, great overview, clean and clear. If you’re up for some ideas, maybe showcasing some third-party sculpts and STL’s for the army you’re talking about.

[@dannypaints]

absolutely love these videos Rob, deadset legend

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

OH HELL YEAH DANNNNNNNY

[@greendalf123]

Love the overviews! Can't wait to learn more about Warriors of Chaos, Orcs, Lizardmen

[@gnifle79]

I’ve always liked the idea of a complete Forest Spirit army. As I’m reading the list and understand your walkthrough I would always need a unit of Glade Guards.

[@alexb6654]

This pleases me! Time to rebuild that Wood Elf army!

[@foxsparrow8973]

Oh crap, I actually gave a lot of my old wood elf armies away!

[@alexanderrobinson3406]

What a great upload Really got my blood pumping for TOW It’s nice here all your positive vibe's 👍💪

[@Knackebrodz]

Big thanks for this excellent overview of the army with clean easily readable unit cards. ❤❤😊

[@Brightminipainting]

Fantastic and funny vid Rob, really informative. One suggestion - could you consider leaving up the unit stats a little longer on screen for the viewer to peruse as they disappear quite quickly. Thanks!

[@Naco-rm1hu]

Very clear and organized，This is simply the best video of its kind that I have ever seen.Will there be guide from other factions in the coming days？such as Bertonnia

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

For all factions

[@Naco-rm1hu]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld wonderful,Hope to see them soon

[@andrewm.9025]

Thanks for the hard wood, I knew you wouldn't let me down.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Ill never let you fall baby

[@l337haxz0rn00b]

I'm printing these sides off and using them as reference cards they're great

[@krispicman3850]

Good job guys. I'm happy to see this stuff. Keep. It. Coming.

[@jimvesal6012]

Def starting WELVES thanks for the vid

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Jim they are busted I reckon but you can do some amazing stuff

[@alastairprince5827]

Love it! Keep them coming, no order in particular *cough* orcs and goblins *cough*

[@Gadge87]

YESSS more Square Based content.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks for the support xx

[@RuleofKrule]

Loved this video and I can’t wait to watch your breakdowns on the other armies!

[@kraye0789]

Fantastic series! I played in 6th when I was a 12, then moved into 40k and im excited to come back to rank and flank games but most content creators are acting like everyone watching played during 8th which is annoying. Keep up the amazing work!

[@FastCavalry]

Great summary - thanks for taking the time to make it !!

[@grantchapman-clarke902]

Great vid! would be cool to have an image of what the unit is when you're going through the unit description. New to playing Old World/Fantasy, so would be good to put names to faces so to speak, particularly some of the esoteric named ones

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

You are right. I'll try to add that feature. I've not really had time to review as I've just been full pace making

[@grantchapman-clarke902]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld Totally understandable! Keep at it :D

[@anarchistkobold4375]

"I hate that joke, I'm not putting it in" 😂

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Hahahaha

[@brisko1994]

At the moment and without having more then Photos from the Book, i lean toward 3 Glade Guard Units. 2 of 10 Models with Arcane Bodkins and a 20 Men Unit with the Flamming Banner and Poison Arrows. Then 2x 6 Wild Riders with full Command, one with the Warbanner. Lvl 4 Mage and Army Standard Bearer plus a way stalker with 10 Way watchers. 7 War dancer as Carrier for Lvl4 and ASB, 3x 5 Dryads, 1 Eagle, 3 War Hawk Riders and a Treeman. Higly Mobile and nothing to really charge, except the 20 Elves Brick. I change Stuff from there

[@andrewsharratt2399]

Excellent video! Genuinely a useful resource that I can see people coming back to reference over time (if we do get a fairly stable forge world style meta like heresy/mesbg). Please keep this up to do full coverage of the factions! Cant wait for the empire, itll hype me to get them out of storage.

[@diegoteutli9104]

Your videos are damn awesome! Thanks for all this amazing work!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Wow. That's such a great compliment!! Thanks

[@TheWalkinDude]

Thank you for the great coverage of The Old World. Looking forward to the Orcs and Goblins video :)

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Gonna be spicy

[@SkinkChief]

Excited for this!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

So glad x

[@Kayosiv]

I really like the format you have for the special rule and stat showcase. Some of them go by a little fast as it is difficult to pause to read them even if you are trying. Also, you have some chimera stats for the great eagle at 8:58 if you want to edit that out.

[@Willabrador]

Totally fantastic dude! Hyped

[@DanielGonzalez-oh6cn]

Amazing content, thank you very much for your awesome work.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Glad you enjoy it! Thankyou x

[@BadDecisionDinosaur89]

I am very excited about running a unit of wardancers with a shadowdancer.

[@adamgooley943]

good job guys useful, clear, well read content

[@TheRedMisterChow]

As someone who doesn't know the army very well, an image of each units models would have been a great addition. Otherwise, great stuff! Super keen for the Orcs and Goblins one!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

I'll try! Getting high res images is super hard ATM so I couldn't include them

[@TheRedMisterChow]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld thanks heaps for letting me know. Maybe even some good non GW alternative? Or art? I just had no idea what any unit actually looked like, so it would have been helpful to me.

[@chriswallace9626]

Dwarves next or else you're going in the book! You may or may not already be in the book for doing elves first...

[@gamesisfunny]

This was an amazing guide! Please make one for the orcs and goblins aswell! :D

[@coolfool64]

This was super helpful, I'd like to see the magical items as well though!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

That will be seperate!

[@coolfool64]

Looking forward to it@@SquareBasedOldWorld

[@darkshadowrift7652]

Rob, what an amazing rundown. I'm honestly fucking blow away. Insanely better than anyone else I've seen bumbling through a book. I hope you won't begrudge me a few typo-type corrections that I caught, this is just in case you were interested: at 14:26 "spells" is mispelled as "sells". at 18:56 you referred to them as an anvil unit right before, but seemed to slip up and call them a hammer unit here.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks so much for highlighting the typos. It's a fuck tonne of info to smash through especially off grainy screenshots