Older Ryzen CPUs Just Got Buffed

[@kimberly4275]

5800x3d is reminding me of the 1080ti. Just one of those once in a generation bangers

[@anadventfollower1181]

Heeeeeell ya

[@laurikvo]

Agreed! I think I even gonna upgrade to it from 3700x before changing the whole platform - it is that good in my opinion. I've always leaned into more budget friendly setups and that cpu is amazing for the price. Waiting for the black friday deals or may even buy it used if one comes available at the right price. 😋

[@ravendagrey]

I would say the better analogy would be the "new" i7 4770k the last gen ddr part that lasted right up to the 8700k before showing its age!

[@serban2139]

1080ti performance, but price was still DAAAMN at the time

[@superhuman46]

@@laurikvo I had a 3700x with my rtx 3070 and it was holding it back. Upgrading to a 5800x3d was awesome and I finally use my gpu fully

[@option_n]

The 5800x3d keeps aging like a fine wine. 🥂

[@Biggu9-]

The alcohol emoji made the comment perfect 😂

[@PrefoX]

actually thats not true, u just got the speed you lost from win10 to win11 back mostly. And I would prefer products that deliver their full potential from day one and not 4 years later. fine wine is just a stupid name for bad software development.

[@bursky09]

@@PrefoX Isn't this mostly because windows 11 fucked up and has nothing to do with the CPU's not being at full potential.

[@420247paul]

@@PrefoX wrong it never worked in win 10 either its amd not microsoft

[@framelessly]

@@Biggu9- 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖

[@ffwast]

AM4 can't stop winning

[@raven4k998]

so upgrade to a 5950x when you can it's a serious beast boy and you'll love it

[@ChrisM541]

I really hope my AM5 gets close to AM4 longevity...and support/new CPU's.

[@ffwast]

@@raven4k998 That's a downgrade,I already have a 5800X3D 🤷

[@ffwast]

@@raven4k998 That's a downgrade since I already have a 5800X3D 🤷

[@raven4k998]

@@ffwast well for gaming sure for anything needing more cores it's actually an upgrade because you have twice the core count silly and not as much of a down grade as you think since the cpu cache is not that much less the x3d has 96 megs of l3 cache which is more then the 64 the 5950x has but the extra cores handle high core count tasks so while for gamming it's a downgrade for more intensive tasks like ai it's an upgrade so get the 5950x3d instead if you still want the gaming performance🤣🤣

[@liptonx]

I bought a 5700x3d this year (half the price of a 5800x3d in my country) and it just gets better and better. AM4 is such a wonderful platform.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Same. 50% price for 3-5% less performance, can't get any better

[@Seriouspatt]

Same. It was just too tempting. The 5800x3d is overpriced here too. The 5700x3d is a bargain.

[@RyTrapp0]

Yup, I upgraded from a 3600X to a 5700X3D around something like February - amazing, I don't feel any rush to upgrade platforms yet, even with plans for a next gen GPU upgrade from my current 5700XT(it'll be a bummer to break up the band, but 2019 was a while ago now...).

[@bonziisuncool]

I did as well. It made a lot of improvements in my games.

[@filmboy18]

I literally ordered a 5700x3d today for £180 to replace my 3600x. Really wanted a 5800x3d but the price difference is crazy considering it doesn't actually bring much more performance (about 5-6% more). Hopefully my 3080 will thank me even though my monitor is 3440x1440p i should still get very good gains. Hoping to get another 3-4 good years out of the 5700x3d.

[@jonas000111]

Still on windows 10 over here 😅

[@ChipsAndWires]

Yep. I switched to AMD on my most recent builds because Intel's P-core/E-core scheduler were exclusively Windows 11 and I thought I'd get everything I could out of AMD with Win10.

[@lem0nad3z]

Ok? You want a cookie or something

[@ZeroB4NG]

@@ChipsAndWires same here... so we don't need / don't get this update, right?

[@xrafter]

​@ZeroB4NG . I believe those kind of updates won't be coming to Win 10 anymore.

[@gglovato]

yeah i want to know how win10 fares in comparison with the win11+patches

[@lil----lil]

Wow...HUGE improvements on the charts... CLEAR, PERTINENT, Uncrowded and easily digested. A BIG THUMB UP!! 👍👍

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks! Still working on getting our charts to where we want them but I'm glad to see the efforts are appreciated - Mike

[@BenState]

4% improvement is not HUGE. lol

[@vigilant_1934]

@@BenState Sounds like the comment is about how clear the charts are and how they improved over the old charts on this channel. Not the results in the charts. Edit: The hint was "uncrowded and easily digested." Not sure how you missed all that.

[@carlosguevara5154]

I run a 7800X3D but the folks who bought the 5800X3D definitely made a smart purchase. what a beast lol

[@tommyftw]

I got the 5800X3D, slightly overpriced but still very happy with it. The price came down literally 3 days after I installed it into my pc, but hey ho. Good purchase.

[@ChristopherJennings0]

"older Ryzen CPUs" Suddenly my 3800X feels vintage...

[@notmirelnam248]

It's new when compared to my 2700. For the record, I can still play every game in my library.

[@Bassalicious]

same boat here lol

[@bmorefranklucas]

@@notmirelnam248nah I’m on 1800x

[@Noa15Lv]

@@bmorefranklucas My nephew is rocking my old Ryzen 7 1700s when i upgraded my rig to an Ryzen 7 3700x.

[@Unicornpirate]

This is cementing my 5800x3d as one of the best gaming CPU's of all time.

[@kevintaylor3073]

Ryzen 5xxx cpu system just fine today for gaming. Better gpu, oled screen. Very pleased with 5800x3d. Ftw.

[@J_Gilliam]

I am still proudly running the 5800X3D on a B550 Motherboard! (I mainly play Starcraft II at 4K) But I can't bring myself to upgrade! It has been an insane value!

[@suimbeazly1989]

That cpu price still wont drop after these year

[@mr.t3782]

That’s still a great setup for gaming. 24h2 will help everyone with windows eleven. Unfortunately they haven’t released it yet for the mainstream.

[@lightest2385]

@@suimbeazly1989I went with the 5700x3D because of the value got em for 180$ it not to far behind tbh

[@lightest2385]

@@lucaschenJC how do you install h24? I’m on windows 11 and won’t mind if I can squeeze a tiny bit more performance out of mine

[@teekanne15]

Also got 5880X3d I can play everything perfectly fine with a 4090 and only rarely see cpu bottleneck (when at 4k)

[@bigdaz7272]

Damn, we used to have to upgrade our Motherboard + CPU, even memory at times with Intel for almost 10 Years to see a 5% bump in performance, now we getting more than that with just Windows sorting out some of their Funked up Code.

[@fern3436]

I think the 5800 and 5700x3d will go down as CPUs on the same level as the i5 2500k, probably even more legendary. I don't see myself upgrading again until there is another paradigm shift in computing. It's crazy to think that a $100 B450 motherboard from 2018 might last through 3 major GPU upgrades and over a decade.

[@arturtestament]

I agree 100% with your post. Only slight difference: I am running it (5800X3D) on top of a x470.

[@jurpo6]

Id rather have a 7600x any day of the week. PBO -30 smokes the obsolete chip.

[@arturtestament]

@@jurpo6 "PBO -30 smokes the obsolete chip". Reasons? "Because the voices on my head said so".

[@snipeyboi186]

the thumb line looks so fun, I love it :D

[@Izanagi-Arsene]

i can confirm the 5900x saw an uplift with this update, it may not be a huge one but honestly an uplift with no impact on performance or thermals is much welcome. the other thing to account for is of course some engines or the game themselves were programmed to have a hard cap on the framerate and it will not allow them to go a frame beyond that.

[@knotsable]

A comparison vs windows 10 would be nice

[@Son37Lumiere]

It's just returning performance to what it's always been on Windows 10.

[@SteelTumbleweed]

Superior performance to any version of 11

[@Ryrynz2000]

Why? Windows 10 and 11 perform basically the same, so just compare pre patch vs after patch.. and it's the same..

[@knotsable]

@Ryrynz2000 because i want to know , instead of assuming or believing randominternetguy645775

[@kingdomheartsfan3002]

​@@Ryrynz2000 no windows 10 runs way better

[@bluej511]

Before everyone comments, please remember at 1440+ you won't notice anywhere near the same performance uplift, I know, I tested it before updating. 24h2 hopefully will have a better boost.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Good point. And also we're sorta "gaming" the system by testing with an RTX 4090.

[@Salty_Nutella]

@@HardwareCanucks pretty sure I saw 3-4 fps improvement in 1% lows in your graphs when you claimed there are no improvements when games are GPU limited such as in Alan Wake 2. That is a win regardless!

[@karma.2781]

​@@HardwareCanucksIs there really a point of testing these parts at 1080p, obviously that's the only way to tell the difference. But nobody, nobody with these components are gaming at 1080p.

[@Kumoiwa]

​@@karma.2781 In the future, when games become more demanding people upgrade their graphics cards or lower their graphical settings these CPU differences will become more apparent

[@timk8869]

@@karma.2781 its just to show the possible gains without being GPU bound. u will see gains with "worse" GPUs, but not as big, but the gains are there

[@Pezturbator]

I just built a Ryzen 5 3600 system with parts i have lying around and id love to see the performance improvements with this new update. Gonna pair it with a 5700xt

[@NyteStalker89]

Nothing from AMD regarding 3xxx series CPUs. Just 5xxxx for am4

[@john066]

5800x3d is the 1080ti of CPU’s. So glad I have one. Thinking the 4090 will last for a couple generations too.

[@handlemonium]

Titan RTX isn't too bad either. Sure it was waay overpriced for 20% more performance and 13GB more VRAM than the 2080TI but it still matches the 3080/4070 in raster performance when overclocked and probably the upcoming RTX 5060 as well while still having twice the VRAM.

[@pR0ManiacS]

​@@handlemoniumit was waay much overpriced like everytime. For ptp and durability 1080ti remains their Best ever product. 5800x3d along with am4 îs AMD Best product so far. Good analogy that i also used. I will buy an used and funcțional 1080ti soon. The founders edition. Keep it working for 20 30 years. It will be a retro gpu. Do the same i think IT will gain value.

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

​@@handlemonium yeah no. 5800x3d was reasonably priced when it came out. So was the 1080ti. The titan RTX was like 3x more than the 2080ti.

[@z3ntropy]

Hate to bubble burst but I think your 4090 is gonna die

[@aflyingmodem]

tbf, and you can consider this a hot take, and I'm just in the super minority, but don't think the 5800X3D and 1080ti is all that "goated" tbh.

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

Wow, really liked this format. Super short and concise, straight to the point and informative!

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks. Its a new format for us and trying to get as much information into a short amount of time as possible. TBH, pontification isn't my thing so, hopefully this works - Mike

[@Kvantum]

What about the 5900X and 5950X? Curious about how the updates impact 2x CCD chips.

[@ScottGrammer]

My 5950X stills kicks butt.

[@philipjones8513]

@@ScottGrammer Mine likewise

[@ScottGrammer]

@@philipjones8513 😁

[@tommythorn]

In one of their reviews, GamersNexus called the 5950X the "most efficient CPUs we have ever tested" (this was before Zen 5 shipped so it may have changed today). I still haven't seen the need to replace mine.

[@jimtekkit]

@@ScottGrammer I find it strange when people with a top-of-the-line flagship are like "yeah it STILL runs great" when it's only three years old. Seriously, is a flagship only expected to last two years and three years is a remarkable achievement? I don't get it. I have a 5950X too BTW lol

[@billdagoe7371]

Still very happy with my 7950X and RTX3800 12GB. Anything over 60FPS is just frosting on the cake for me with my 28" 4K 60Hz monitor. Great review!

[@petarpetrov725]

5800x3d here. Great video

[@Par_x3D]

3 weeks ago I built a new AM4 system with a 5700x3D and a 4070s and it's been insane. Even on DDR4 it's a big upgrade

[@Sk0die]

What did you upgrade from?

[@Par_x3D]

@@Sk0die i5 9600 and 3060

[@tonyashby7354]

best bang for the buck right now seems to be the Ryzen 7 5700x3d. almost as fast as the 5800x3d for only 200 dollars not bad.

[@themobster7284]

Lower clock speeds = lower performance... Not my cup of tea... Also i got mah 5800x3D for 330$, but also sold mah Ryzen 3700x fro 150$, and Wraith Prism for 25$... So getting the 5800x3D for 160$ was da real deal, as 5700x3D may be cheaper, but it also has lower IPC too and clock speed, and that sucks, as 5800x had way higher clock speed then 5800x3D anyway...

[@aven6150]

@@themobster7284 lower clock speeds does not always mean lower performance unless you really care about that 1%

[@themobster7284]

@@aven6150 1% ahahah... Seems someone missed the math classes... How exactly is 4.1GHz 5700x3D vs 5800x3D 4.5GHz, 1% ?!?!? Outside of games and stuff it will be slower, by at least 15% lower IPC.. And also 5800x did boost up to 4.7GHz... So you want to tell me that 4.1GHz will be only 1% slower compared to 4.7GHz ahahah... I was already not happy, that 5800x3D had lowered clock speeds, but 5700x3D is even lower, and that is not acceptable.. Also 5700x3D mem controller is also weaker, meaning it prob many of these chips wont support CL14 3600 memory, or faster...

[@TheGympert]

the 7600x is mostly faster then the 5800x3d and half the price. The 7600x is a beast for it's price.

[@kraio-sfu]

@@themobster7284Pretty sure they’re talking about 1% lows…

[@laggmonstret]

Well done on the new charts and video quality! :D

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks!

[@hatty101]

there is bad and good installs of the new update, i know users who got an avg of 9-11% performance gain on their 5600x/5800 non 3D. i got it my self with my 5800H on a laptop. in lords of the fallen my fps jumped from 93 to around 115 in the exact same spot.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Its really random. No idea why there's such a huge variance from one user to another but it could also be some folks were already behind on updates since in order to get access to the Optional Update, you needed the latest Required Updates be installed as well.

[@andreabriganti5113]

Really helpful video to watch, expecially since I got a 5800X3D and Windows 11. Thanks 👍

[@ShivaanshPrasann]

Me with a 5800X3D: Hmm, interesting.

[@blackbirdpctech]

Another great video … quite literally the only reliable large channel that is reporting on this … really appreciate your efforts.

[@DGCastell]

I just installed a 5700X3D, to replace the aging 2700x I had.

[@gabrielladeira5627]

At the same motherboard? That's awesome and insane at the same time. I've bought a b550m from MSI and R5 5500. I'm thinking about changing for the 5700x3d in the future

[@DGCastell]

@@gabrielladeira5627 it's actually a sad story, I had to replace my x470 board for an x570 cause it died, so pretty much all my system was new except for the CPU 😅 I even have a 6750XT that was running at PCI 3.0 speeds due to the old CPU.

[@DGCastell]

@@gabrielladeira5627 you will definitely notice a difference with the X3D chip 😄👍🏼

[@triggeredtiger9905]

Same here, except I've only got a 5600x... But from the remaining money I've snagged a 6700xt

[@DGCastell]

@@triggeredtiger9905 the 5600x is plenty for that 6700xt 👌🏼

[@O6i]

ive been using a ryzen 7 1700 since it came out with the same 120 aio for 8 years and its still going strong

[@FudgeEyeNah_]

am4 just wont die

[@calebmenker988]

As someone with an am4 system, I'm all for it Quite possibly the best platform ever made

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

It’s a good platform not sure why it would be good if it somehow died

[@pablosanmartinvarela1773]

Thanks! I had been waiting for this.

[@Aloysyus]

Does that Update help at all with 3000 series Ryzen CPUs?

[@HardwareCanucks]

We haven't seen anything to think that the 3000 series is positively affected but we only test with 14-16 games...it could very well be there are some cases but if that was the case I'm guessing AMD would have disclosed that in their blog posts.

[@Aloysyus]

@@HardwareCanucks Thanks for the heads up. Still running a 3700X, but i guess you're right: AMD would have said something.

[@GRUMPY656799]

long live AM4.. truly a gem.. started with 1700 after several upgrades I'm stopping and staying with my 5700x3d... its a monster.. handles everything...

[@RVFFICA]

Not me thinking my Ryzen 9 3900x got buffed 💀

[@lagginswag]

Me on a 2600 lmao 💀

[@Петърчо]

I hear ya

[@Iisakki3000]

Yeah to me it's still the new cpu I just bought 😅 wait... It's been 4 years already???? Still, to me 3000 series is what I'd call "older" and 5000 is "last gen". Though they did recently release 9000 series but that's so new still I'd call it next gen and 7000 is kinda the current gen until we have more 9000 chips. Does that make any sense to anyone else? 😅

[@CyborgGod]

I mean when they said old I thought about Ryzen my 3600 lol 5000 is not THAT old lmao

[@PSL1969]

@@Iisakki3000 Haha same :)

[@EhNothing]

Interesting testing. Thanks. (PS-chapters in the video timeline would be nice)

[@HardwareCanucks]

Agreed. Oddly we added them (see description) but they aren't showing up in the video itself. We're looking into it.

[@StormEagle5]

Is anyone else only seeing KB5043145?

[@emmanuelakinfenwa]

I am

[@whovee6685]

Same here

[@---ib4ww]

ye only KB5043145

[@chrisabanil2130]

Same

[@dennishaller6578]

Same here, also checked my history and KB5041587 was not installed nor can I find it anywhere. So the question is, does KB5043145 have the performance thingy included?

[@sevendaysin8374]

My 7800X3D system is rejoicing today. Awesome update!

[@hebecookies]

i guess im not missing much since im still on windows 10

[@Typhon888]

What is it you think you are not missing? I’m on Windows 8.1. I guess I’m not missing much…

[@vegancoffee]

@@Typhon888 What is it you think you are not missing? I’m on Windows XP. I guess I’m not missing much…

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@vegancoffee What is it you think you are not missing? I'm on Windows Millenium Edition. I guess I'm not missing much...

[@Chill_Mode_JD]

@@TheRealSkeletorwindows 95 gang here dunno what I’m missing…

[@arturtestament]

3.11 for Workgroups sent it's regards!

[@spladam3845]

Great testing, thanks.

[@ryanthomas9306]

Still playing r6 my 2600 is still kicking it

[@swifty1969]

I’m glad I bought 5800x3d when it went on sale on Amazon under $300

[@filmboy18]

Should of waited for the 5700x3d instead. Way way way better value.

[@SpiritOfTheHeretic]

Strange - I have 2024-09 optional update available but not 2024-08 🤷‍♂

[@SeshGod69]

Sadly in Germany its very hard to get a 5800X3D rn so i got 5700X3D. If you want to keep your am4 ddr4 basis, get one and you will be happy.

[@AbbasDalal1000]

3:50 nothing bigger disappointment than owning starfiled

[@Vennux]

nice video you did a great job as always

[@rlifeh]

Just use WIN 10 with last updates, better than WIN 11 for gaming.

[@pkilljoy5797]

I felt a noticable CPU boost on the 8840u as well, free performance is awesome!

[@tiktokvibe3479]

5600x and 6600xt here

[@lilnapkin462]

Love it thats a lot of performance for not a lot of monies

[@Denso481]

I wish you had included Space Marine 2 here (very heavy CPU usage title). But Kudos for testing Zen3 Series. My 5800x3d keeps delivering the goods it seems

[@glebs.]

I thought you'd be testing Older Ryzen CPUs like the 3000 and the 2000 series.

[@shineymcshine]

If it doesn't help the 5600, it's not going to help older ones

[@glebs.]

@@shineymcshine Nothing like blanket statements to lose the day!

[@skidzgaming5504]

Also remember to turn off Core Isolation/VBS for better fps but it depends if you use VMs

[@ReferenceHomeTheater]

I'm not sure why you keep saying the X3D parts get larger upgrades than the non-X3D parts. When you look at the percentage gain, the non-X3D parts gain 2% and 2.1% overall (1.8% and 2.2% gains for 1% lows), while the X3D chips gain 1.8-2.5% overall (0.8% and 2.1% for their 1% lows). Those are basically equal across them and the only reason the X3D would look to gain more is because they were faster already, but they both got basically identical uplifts percentage-wise.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah, maybe I generalized a bit. However, in the games that saw the biggest increases, the X3D chips were by and large much better whereas the non-X3D chips were more even across the board with smaller gains.

[@EloyBushida]

Love to see 7950x3d performance uplift.

[@vulcan4d]

AMD getting better since Intel is slowely losing their grip on the market. AMD optimizations for the win!

[@HardwareCanucks]

There are none.

[@josecruz8803]

5800X3D for the win! I was told I was dumb to upgrade to this CPU and not get into AM5, yet here I am playing games exactly how I want to and still getting improvements for this. I'll probably be using this CPU until AM6 to be honest.

[@christophermullins7163]

5600x is now 60fps in the witcher 3 in novigrad? Edit: This is NOT a GPU bottleneck. This is with RT on on a 4070 TiSuper . These settings are more limited by the CPU than the GPU at the resolution I play at. Thanks.

[@Maherbaset]

Even before it should give you more than 60 fps But the bottleneck would be the GPU

[@christophermullins7163]

@@Maherbaset it's not a GPU bottleneck. Ray tracing on a 40 series GPU relies more on the CPU than you'd think. It drops below 60 only inside the town square.

[@Maherbaset]

@christophermullins7163 oh i thought games like spider man has something new in their engine that made ray tracing so heavy on the cpu i didn't know that it's a thing with the 40's series GPUs

[@christophermullins7163]

@@Maherbaset it's not specific to 40 series.. just that 40 series are the only gpus fast enough to bottleneck the CPU with RT on.

[@Maherbaset]

@christophermullins7163 that's made more since now

[@kallamamran]

I'll stay at W10 for a while longer with my 5600X then. Thank you for a great video answering a question I have had for a while now :)

[@AllenD.Wallace]

What about those old guys that are grumpy and don't like Windows 11 to the point to remain in Windows 10? Even worse, with a high end but not 3D processor like the R9 5900X? Asking for a friend...

[@TheLTcousins]

You always had the performance uplift on Windows 10, 11 is just Vista vibes

[@nvrprfct9176]

run winutil

[@Marauder-q2v]

Windows 10 LTSC with mass grave Software updates end in 2030 something I believe

[@AnticipatedHedgehog]

If your friend is happy with their current setup leave it alone. I really don't like windows 11 either, I'm honestly considering Linux before I go to Windows 11. With time the X3D chips and Windows or Intels split core architecture will mature and probably be even better.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

Because windows 11 UI and features sucks. They remove settings, heck now one cant even create a local account, need MS account. Its just all bad and worse.

[@Likely_Alucard]

I really wanna see an updated RGB fan comparison. As someone who is about to build a new PC, I’d like to see how Corsairs new Link Fans perform and if they are better than previous models…. That’s all that’s been in my mind.

[@BDSonderKlassen]

5800x3d = modern day 1080Ti

[@bzdtemp]

Good info. Thx. I'd love to know how the Windows 10 numbers compare.

[@LiteDrift]

I thought this would be relevant to me. Still on Win 10, Ryzen 7 3700X carried hard by my Radeon 7900XT which replaced my RX580 8GB 😂 and honestly the upgrades are due but I'm not playing anything new enough to justify it, not even VR. Side note, I have 48GB of RAM... don't ask, it just happened.

[@elkoku2002]

You have a bottleneck in your CPU, you are not taking advantage of your expensive GPU, the 5700x3d would be enough.

[@MrSpako13]

Im runing a 5600x right now looking to upgrade but beeing unwilling to pay the overprice on the 7800x3d rn This and the fact that the 9800x3d is rumored to launch soon, gave me another push towards upgrading my cpu

[@pyroslev]

Windows 11 is required huh? Even if it did give me that update, I'm hesitant to put my main rig onto Windows 11 until I have to.

[@vac59]

If you have an older AM4 motherboard then stick to Windows 10

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

@@vac59 Can you elaborate?

[@vac59]

@@GreyDeathVaccine drivers drivers drivers

[@frf5000]

Weird to see 3d vcache improving so much with this update

[@Yaan]

How about Zen 2 cpus?

[@SpyderBlackOfficial]

Sadly no

[@randomusername982374]

Time to upgrade

[@Yaan]

@@randomusername982374 i have 3900x its doing pretty well for 12 core processor. Should i?

[@notmirelnam248]

@@randomusername982374 It's only time to upgrade if it no longer suits your needs. I'm running a Ryzen 2700 with a 1080ti and I can still play every game in my library. Admittedly, I don't buy games until they're at least a year old and the prices have come down and the bugs have been worked out by the early-adopters, but there are still some graphically-impressive games in that list that run fine.

[@irasinah]

Well as a 5800x3D owner i'm very glad to hear that i hope i can use it for more 2 or 3 years before stepping to a newer platforme

[@evrypixelcounts]

But. . . I'm on linux. . .

[@lilnapkin462]

which distro

[@misfit4816]

I bought an open box 5800x3d from microcenter with 23 bent pins last year, runs fantastically

[@indigo4438]

5800X3D i don`t have this update in windows, and i don`t have it already installed either. Where do i get it?

[@HardwareCanucks]

We explained this. You might have to refresh your Optional Updates a few times. OR it might have already been downloaded as a cumulative updated in the last few days.

[@jonas000111]

Windows update. Are you on windows 11?

[@indigo4438]

@@jonas000111 Okey, so eventually it will be there. Performance boost out of nowhere is always great- i just hope it won`t break kombo strike 3, or won`t increase temperatures.

[@jaydeepmohile]

Smiling while watching this on my Windows 10 Desktop rocking a 5800X3D.

[@poeticsilence047]

2 problems I don't have or neither want WIN11 Still running 1600x.

[@jonas000111]

Im on windows 10 too. I was probably the last person I know personally that was on windows 7, it took microsoft dumping patches to get me off and will do the same for 10. I still think 7 was peak Windows OS followed by XP. I hate all the adware and telemetry they have been shoving down our throats which affects performance.

[@poeticsilence047]

@@jonas000111 win 7 was good.

[@sharkey9]

@@jonas000111 There's an ESD version of Windows 7 that gets all security updates, support ended this month. I run it on some old secondary PC and it's beautiful.

[@saricubra2867]

That 5800X3D from the benchmark with the Windows update almost matched my i7-12700K with DDR5 5200 in Hogwarts Legacy

[@anaveragehuman2937]

Been a windows guy forever, tired of their crap, installed Linux mint a couple weeks ago and haven’t touched the windows boot since. Going to see how long I can go before I “need” something 😅 My 5900x seems snappy enough in mint

[@WaterZer0]

Welcome to the cu- I mean club!

[@norfolkngood8960]

Bought a 5700x from Amazon to upgrade my sons old 6600k. £100 for a 5700x new from Amazon, very nice. Gotta love the value of AM4 even now. I got a returned mATX B550 board for £15 too

[@MarioCRO]

AMD hardware and software aging like wine, the older the better... AM4 was and still is the unicorn platform of longevity and value for performance...

[@EvolanderX]

Cinebench would’ve been a good one to test too.

[@czbrat]

Buff? More like they nerfed the performance first then gave it back. Stick to Windows 10 ye Ryzen users.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's not good advice since Windows 10 will be EOL for security updates as of mid October.

[@8u88letea]

that's kinda what I thought. How come they didn't do the work when the chip was released so it was already this good? AMD is always behind Intel and NVIDIA even though I do like AMD more. eg with cyberpunk took them years just to get fsr3 on it

[@czbrat]

@@HardwareCanucks That's Oct 2025, not 2024

[@rci-tf2zc]

@@HardwareCanucksthat dont matter people will figure it out.

[@AlpineTheHusky]

Hope this will fix the occasional memory and cache errors those CPUs used to get

[@Pyroja]

Gotta see this compared to Win 10, since a ton of us refuse to migrate to Win 11.

[@Peter-gb4ey]

Don't forget the improvements from the new AGESA firmware updates for motherboards. There was some big latency improvements for CPUs that have more then one CCD.

[@HardwareCanucks]

In heavily multi threaded workloads yes but not in games since AMD's scheduler typically localizes those on a single CCD in multi CCD designs.

[@Donchikiman]

Starfield is a disappointment for people that own Starfield 😂

[@rmaxime92]

Still better than anything Sony has out. Concord was a disaster. Jk this entire generation has been trash with optimization.

[@matilija]

I don't really understand why people say this, Personally, I think Starfield is BGS best game yet, it's not perfect, but it's far better than reviews would lead me to believe. I've put almost 800 hours into it and I still feel like it has a lot to offer me.

[@kristoffer3000]

@@matilija Wow, do you love garbage in all other aspects of your life or just gaming? lol The game is just shite, devoid of life in every way. Before you say anything, I played over 40 hours before giving up on it completely, best part of the entire game was the ship building and it wasn't even very good. 💀

[@matilija]

@@kristoffer3000 What an idiotic response. Just because I like bacon, and you like soy doesn't make either of our choices wrong or garbage. But as you say, the game is garbage, but you spent "40" hours playing it, sounds like you are deep into garbage to me.

[@kristoffer3000]

@@matilija But Starfield is universally maligned for a reason, we're not talking about bacon vs soy here, we're talking about pre-chewed gray slop that tastes like cardboard. Play a good game instead so you get some perspective, Cyberpunk 2077 for example.

[@jeremybarber2837]

My kind of video, love it.

[@ricky_pigeon]

People acting like this is some kind of win or its free performance. Just use windows 10 if you only care about gaming. This isn't a win for anyone, it's still less performance.

[@erickalvarez6486]

Now they only 10% behind of windows 10

[@almostahero]

Did this update do anything to intel cpus as well maybe?

[@HardwareCanucks]

Nope. We checked.

[@afterglow5285]

We used to download RAM back in the day, why we cant download FPS?

[@HardwareCanucks]

We can. :)

[@BKHD605]

Lossless Scaling is downloading fps

[@ai-aniverse]

my 5900x is still doing great work. But i mainly write software, not game.

[@pkpnyt4711]

Win 10 still better than Win 11 in gaming. This what this test doesn't show.

[@Daigon95]

I noticed with some people that have tested it; Is that any game built on Unreal seems to gain a pretty sizeable performance bump, with 24H2 compared to the 23H2 post-patch.

[@testynetesty]

Or you can just use win10 and have same or better performance. Pretty pointless comparison without w10 results.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Windows 10 will stop receiving security updates as of October 14th. We can't in good conscience recommend people stay on an OS that isn't supported by the most up to date security fixes. Yes it absolutely sucks and we hate MS for doing it but that's the situation.

[@testynetesty]

@@HardwareCanucks I guess it's important in corporate segment. But we are talking about gaming, so who cares, some folks still rocking win7 for their reasons, and there are literally zero games that mandatory demands win11 yet.

[@kelownatechkid]

​@@HardwareCanucks Windows 10 isnt eol for another year Lmao. Not October

[@1Grainer1]

@@testynetesty but some really do think that day eol happens then every windows 10 pc will be hacked etc, i wonder how many security updates "saved" my pc, and it's not like those security updates can take care of malware or adware, literally LTT breach

[@ksks6802]

If the creator of this content can get the end of life date correct for windows 10, why am I here? Gonna hit the dont recommend button and stay far away from this slop channel

[@ericb6309]

Yep the incremental update for 23H2 alone seems to have fixed a nagging issue I’ve had on my daily driver machine with a noticeable memory leak whenever closing and reopening resource intensive apps. Finally! I would swear it’s been going on the entirety of 23H2. I’m using a 7950x rigged to 64 GB of RAM, and with only normal day-to-day use nearly all 64 GB would be in use no matter how much was actually closed, background processes and all. It would only take half a week to max it out for no good reason.

[@naikz187war4]

Im still rocking a Ryzen 3700x...Does it benefit as well ?

[@Sadioli]

Yo me too

[@mauricejohnson660]

Nope. Time to upgrade to the 5700X3D boys

[@WinterMute99]

okay, but you did completely ignore the 24h2 release preview, with a couple different scheduling and parking things for the dual ccd ryzen cpu's.

[@ThePhenoix504FI3D1]

it's pointless to compare without w10 since not many people can upgrade to w11 anyway

[@arko612]

everyone with ryzen 2000 or newer can upgrade to w11

[@HardwareCanucks]

?? With the latest BIOS updates, every Ryzen processor from the 2000-series onwards supports Windows 11.

[@jayros]

@@arko612and yet, a comparison between the latest W10 version and the latest W11 versions would be great.

[@ThePhenoix504FI3D1]

@@HardwareCanucks Oh i didn't know that. Yet comparing with windows 10 might still be helpful.

[@jorggamingcr409]

My desktop has an 2600X, not overclocked, bit it runs as the 1st day. It is my daily machine and with 16gb ram and an gtx1060 i play FH5, GTAV, Hogwarts Legacy and many more. I really love Ryzen❤

[@OneDollaBill]

How about comparison to win10 tho? Win 11 is some dogsht.