Omen 30L - A Ryzen Gaming PC TEARDOWN

[@HardwareCanucks]

In B4 people start shouting "DIY IS BETTER". For some folks it is but there's value in plug and play or to have a single warranty covering all components. Plus this PC is built in a way that can get newcomers comfortable with upgrading so they eventually build their own system :) Is there room for improvement, absolutely and that's why we wanted to tear this thing down, hear your opinions and see if prebuilt gaming systems can evolve even more in the next generation. Luckily Omen seems to be listening.

[@NewmanOnGaming]

It's not a bad pre-built. My only concern is that motherboard and CPU cooler (IHS coverage). Outside of that its better than most. Also blower style cards are not my favorite but as long as it works better than founders edition blower coolers it should be fine.

[@HardwareCanucks]

@@NewmanOnGaming Are the FE cards really that bad? Haven't booted ours for a while now of that for testing in this video.

[@uijuma]

I put the parts in pc part picker and let’s just say that it definitely is not worth 2100$ since if you were to build it yourself you would spend about 1700$ with the building fee counted for. And I understand that some people don’t want to build they’re own but 400$ for it to be built is a very steep price

[@HardwareCanucks]

@@uijuma Well that's the thing, no one ever said it was a good value....just that it was for a different market segment. This is specifically why we didn't do the usual "hey let's compare this to a prebuilt!" because like Eber said at the end.....it won't compete from a pricing perspective. :)

[@RJBuildsPcs]

sbowesuk Reaching on that one for sure, lol.

[@JATCHOYT]

I think there is a huge market for prebuilt PCs that look like a custom gaming pc with tempered glass case and RGB fans.. Not sure why big names like Dell don't jump at this opportunity, there's a huge market of people who want a plug and play prebuilt system that looks like a custom gaming pc..

[@HardwareCanucks]

Well Dell DOES have Alienware but their prices compared to this are $$$$.

[@tommihommi1]

@@HardwareCanucks Alienware PCs usually don't look like normal PCs, they are wayyyy out there in design going for the alien theme. Systems like this are a lot more tasteful.

[@NinO12752]

Something like the fluid gaming systems from Microcenter and ekwb. Those things were amazing with a full custom loop to a reasonable price. This would fit perfectly

[@sushimshah2896]

@@tommihommi1 yeah, did you see the interior of that Aurora in Short-Circuit's video, Yuck!!

[@tommihommi1]

@@sushimshah2896 the aurora is just a office pc/workstation chassis with a plastic housing around it. Hence the cool PSU mounting.

[@SharkRN913]

The plate at the top has four little plates that you can pop out to provide proper ventilation and also attach a 120mm aio

[@pooshNchums]

Attached a 120x15mm slim noctua fan there as an exhaust. Works decently to reduce internal temps by a tiny bit

[@r9robins]

This top plate is primarily for the installation of the liquid cooler radiator.

[@racerex340]

Pretty generous saying that this rig was designed with upgrades in mind when it has one PCIe Gen3 x16 slot, two DIMM slots and while it has two M.2 slots, one is populated by the 256GB NVMe SSD and the other using an m.2 Wireless card. Other than swapping out DIMMs, CPU or GPU (which you can do in any system) or SATA HDD, I think it's pretty important to call out the fact that while it supports upgrades, it does not support expansion outside of adding a 2nd SATA HDD. You couldn't even install a PCIe x4 capture card in that thing. I guess that someone looking for a somewhat decent looking gaming rig that they can buy at Best Buy would be perfectly fine with this. I myself cannot support such lack of expansion capability. .

[@igors_lv]

Exactly! Everything in the system is minimum to run cpu, gpu and few drives, cheap board, cheap psu, 2 fans without room for additional. Sponsored video, what did you expect. And total cost 2100$, you can build 250% better system for that budget

[@racerex340]

@@igors_lv Exactly. Even if you didn't build it yourself, for $2100, you could get WAY more for your money at even IBuyPower or Origin, like a real motherboard with expansion, a decent case with real cooling. This POS has a case that probably costs $70, a $300 CPU, $60 Motherboard, $70 worth of RAM, a $35 NVMe SSD, $40 1TB SATA HDD and a $700 2080 Super blower card. Add in some cables and you're talking under $1300 in below average parts. Imagine if they spent another $40 on the case and fans, Another $100 to change to a 3900X, another $70 to get a B550 mid-range motherboard, another $60 for a decent WD blue 1TB NVMe SSD, $20 more for a 3TB SATA HDD, and another $30 for a decent double or triple fan EVGA 2080 Super. Another $320, or spending about $1600 total, maybe add another $100 for better than stock CPU cooling and cables and they could have justified selling it as a pre-built for $2100. And I'm using retail prices that you and I pay, they probably pay 15% less than we do, or even lower for volume purchased buying direct.

[@javierelozano]

Sean D great comment! I agree with you 100%

[@patrickdiola3762]

It's a Micro ATX, you couldn't really fit much else in the case. The motherboard is very limited. You can upgrade the features it has, but can't really add anything.

[@racerex340]

@prepareforflight My game install NVMe is 2TB (Gen3) and I'm already at nearly 65% utilized. HDD is no longer an acceptable storage medium for game installs, that's for backups, ISO's, movies and recorded game videos. I also have a 1TB boot / editing Gen4 NVMe that averages 50% full. I probably have 30 or so games installed, some with a handful of fairly large mods. I'm sure I could uninstall a few but I'd be pretty annoyed having to wait for them to download when I want to play. I have the same problem with my PS4 pro, I blew through the 1TB drive with maybe 7 or 8 games (FU COD), and even a 2TB SSD isn't large enough when most of your library is downloaded, waiting for games to download on PS4 is 100x more painful than Steam or even Origin/Epic.

[@SMMorties]

So, I went to look at Omen configurator. "Decent" was my first impression. But then, something caught my eye. A system with RTX 2080 Ti, R9 3900, 32GB RAM, 2x2TB HDD, 2TB NVMe SSD a WiFI 6 adapter will be powered by a 500 W PSU. And there is no option to upgrade it. Bummer. Oh, and there is no way to opt out the McAfee trial. So, yeah, there is a LOT of room for improvement for OMEN and HP.

[@TheGauges420]

Well to be fair the TDP of the 3900 is just 65w, so sure it may not be the BEST option out there, but I'm sure it will at least run the components they're putting in.

[@SMMorties]

Seth Kauffman According to NVIDIA the recommended minimum PSU for RTX 2080 Ti is 650 W.

[@TheGauges420]

@Sir Soma with a 500w PSU? Depends what else it has. Generally sure, it's probably enough, but do you feel safe doing it is the question? I wouldnt go under a 600w in my nephews budget rig, and it has a 2600x/RX 5700 in it...

[@SMMorties]

@Sir Soma According to the specification - yes 500 W is OK for RTX 2060 based PC.

[@samii-i-i]

Amm you actually can upgrade anything there. It doesn't have to be strictly from HP. Like, I could buy off amazon 850W and it would work just fine tbh

[@tommihommi1]

that CPU cooler is a big oof. At least use a wraith prism.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Well that's the thing. 65W CPUs usually get the Wraith Stealth, not the Prism and this aligns with that....minus that odd base here. But one of our first pieces of feedback for Omen was this cooler. It does the job (check out the temps vs clock speeds) but it could be a LOT better.

[@tommihommi1]

@@HardwareCanucks The current wraith stealth already is very much suboptimal for the "65W" CPUs that really are 88W chips. Thermal throttling is inevitable in many cases.

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

@@HardwareCanucks nope, the R7 2700 is 65W and comes with an RGB Wraith Spire, that would out-perform the stealth, and this cooler also, by being much more massive

[@HardwareCanucks]

@@matthieuzglurg6015 That's the 2700. Don't think there are any Ryzen 3000 chips with the Spire...are there?

[@HardwareCanucks]

@@tommihommi1 Check out the results. Even after a torture test we didn't seen any throttling. But that's not to say the cooler is GOOD....its adequate.

[@JE-zl6uy]

"Great for updates!" But Also: VRMs have no heatsinks so anything over 65 watts isn't going to work (and max 65watt CPU is only available via HP Direct) Memory is limited to only models approved by HP. Extra Fan areas are literally blocked off with solid metal plates. but hey, they pre-ran harddrive cables! That's great! So you can replace the SSD! Also as it's a B450 board that M.2 slot is only PCI-E 3.0

[@addasahmad6599]

Thank You! I was thinking, "Am I the only one who sees the Vrm's"?

[@williamricker4073]

As a person who just bought this computer and will be picking it up in 2 days THANK YOU! I'm new to PC builds and cannot thank you enough for the knowledge you provided and how well you put together your videos; definitely gained a subscriber! It's been a nightmare finding videos about this one particular PC build and concise information about them for someone just breaking into PC's!

[@mtx1212]

Prebuilt Gaming PCs offer tons of advantages -- competitive pricing relative to DIY, plenty of component options to choose from, and just peace of mind that your PC is covered by warranty...HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT IT... You can just tell that HP told Hardware Canucks to "take the money and say something good about it" -- but there's very little "good" to say, start with the barebone motherboard, it's basically a slightly altered version of the micro-atx board HP uses in its office PCs...very little upgradability and expandability. Then you've the 65w low-power version of the 3900 (i call it "factory-crippled"), and even then, the tiny little cooler can't keep the temps below 84c! combined with only one intake+one exhaust fans in the whole chasis, the system just doesn't have sufficient airflow to stay cool. And lastly you've the blower-style GPU that sounds like a jet-turbine when operating at max capacity with very little OC headroom.

[@craftedpixel]

Their "Laptop" guide video was the reason I unsubscribed. Literally just a shameless ad for razer

[@sergiogarcia2984]

La neta

[@joshuaarin2394]

Agreed...What a shameful video to defend HP...

[@coveyking]

thanks for your comment. saved me from purchasing.

[@JaswanthChandraImGame]

Linus: im going to increase the airflow of 30L.....how you may ask say "hello" to my trusty power saw!!!

[@la009895]

Paul’s hardware did that with the sentry. It was brutal but effective

[@JE-zl6uy]

HP Seems to do this constantly... I had an OMEN and it's just baffling the things they did... like placing an 80MM fan over a 120mm hole and in order to do that it needed a bracket that fit the 80mm into the 120mm. fan... Oh and their mounting holes were Intel styled despite it being an AMD system.

[@dragonsword7370]

i thought the top metal panel was removable for extra fan support. Bugger. Good thing I'm not going to game heavy on mine.

[@patrickdiola3762]

@@dragonsword7370 you can put a fan in the top. In the metal bracket at the top you'll see 4 sections- these can be popped out with some force. Remove the 2 screws holding the bracket in place. Slide bracket out. Pop the 4 sections out of the bracket without cutting yourself. Attach 120mm fan/radiator to bracket. Slide bracket back in and put the 2 screws back. You can also add a 120mm fan in the bottom by drilling or jamming wood screws through the bottom mesh. You'll have to remove a cable management bracket near the RGB controller. Also, remove the screw that holds on the metal side panel so that you can remove that panel easy in the future.

[@garrettbainbridge1954]

I put in aio on mine n helped alot

[@noelkinz]

I need Help. My HP Omen 30L - GT13 - 1174 recently stopped turning on and I highly suspect is the PSU that needs replacement. I checked the model of the PSU and its a cooler master and it has the following information: Hp Post, No. L8409 - 001 Now when I check on the specific model no specific search appears on Google so I can't get my hands on that specific model. That said since I am not familiar with the gaming PC repair and replacement process I just want to know What other model can be compatible with this specific machine? Atleast one that is 550w or higher but that can be compatible with that specific model of HP Omen 30L. For whoever that wants to help me with giving me a model thanks in advance 💜❤️.

[@AaronHendu]

Those metal plates on the top fan mounts are removable...that's why there is an "x" in the center of the plates...you stick a screwdriver in there and twist it back and forth and the plates will pop out. Just like is common in the 5.25" bay covers that you have to remove before using the bay.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Nope! We tried. Its riveted in place! And even below that, there's no fan mounts.

[@AaronHendu]

@@HardwareCanucks It still looks to me as if there are four small removable panels, and I can't see a single rivet on any of them. Also...they sell this same chassis with a 120 liquid cooler in that same position. I'll take your word for it though since you have/had the case on hand, and I don't.

[@pleppers17]

@@HardwareCanucks I have one and I remove the plate (mine is screwed and not riveted) and busted out the 4 blanking plates. it usually is where the 120mm radiator in some models are mounted. as for me, I've "mounted" that blanking plate at the bottom of the case and added an intake fan (I'm using a 25L so no front intake)

[@yubinator7455]

i can hear the DIY master race guys.

[@patrickdiola3762]

For the top fan bracket: that plate has 4 tool-less breakaway tabs to open the airflow. I installed a 120mm AIO fan/radiator there (for my GPU). Another note, measure everything about the CPU retention bracket before upgrading the CPU cooler. I had issues with my Noctua NH-U9S air cooler (w/ 2 92mm fans) where I had to use all the parts labeled for Intel on my "AMD" bracket. I also had to go buy the 4 screws to bolt in the brackets because the ones that came with the air cooler were the wrong size. I was also able to add a 120mm fan on the bottom with very minor modifications. There is no fan bracket, I used small wood screws to go through the bottom of the case (it's actually pretty legit). My flow goes right-bottom to left-top. The airflow still isn't spectacular but it's fine.

[@pooshNchums]

This is exactly what I was looking for! If I'm adding a U9S, do I need to swap the mounting bracket? If not, which screws did you use to mount it? I'm guessing with the new screws, you were able to mount to make sufficient contact between the cooler bottom plate and the CPU?

[@irvindeleon7215]

As someone who bought the 25L when it came out, I agree that it encouraged me to upgrade the pc on my own, very easy and simple access to everything… quick tip, the top metal plate can pop out so that you can properly install the fan with good airflow !!

[@nickrajewski7563]

For me the system lost me with the motherboard. If I remember correctly, 4 USB ports? Really? After plugging in my peripherals ( mouse, keyboard, headset ) I no longer have any rear USB ports.

[@titostacos114]

i have a 25l so smaller and it has 6 usb ports on the back and 2 on the front so 8 in total

[@nickrajewski7563]

@@titostacos114 that is definitely manageable and makes the 4 here look even worse. I have an x570 board that has 12 USB ports on the back. I come no where near using all of them, but you get used to never having to unplug something else

[@mdb1010]

@@nickrajewski7563 yeah it has 8. which is pretty nice. i like some in the front and some in the back.

[@seawaffle2604]

@@nickrajewski7563 my 30l has 8

[@Dreigo42]

I appreciate pre-builts like this. Gets new people into PC gaming but using standard form factors. This is an upgrade dream.

[@zerofourgundam]

Keep up the good work man. I really love how you do reviews. Clean, precise and ultra informative!

[@lunchie80]

Not going to lie, I think that's really nice looking. OEM or not, that's far more upgradable than the average alienware etc.

[@murderdoggg]

5:27 OMG are you the guy from the Verge PC build video? The metal plate is removable.

[@xdOceanic15]

That blank metal plate at the top for a 120mm fan can be snapped off when pushing on the cross in the middle, i figured someone can find this useful

[@Awnydam]

all the information i was looking for, thank you

[@therevanchist1123]

Would like to see the wraith spire cooler with this perfect for 65watt and one of y favorite looking coolers. I’d also like a fan that can get some fresh air to the CPU, it probably doesn’t have to have it but would be nice just the same to aid in keeping everything nice a cool.

[@FlickTheBrick]

Regarding the top fan mounting position: To use the 120mm bracket on top of the case you first have to unscrew the bracket and manually pop out the four metal plates. Then you can attach the fan to it and finally place the entire assembly into the case. It can also be used to mount 120mm AIO radiators. The exact same mechanism was implemented in their previous line-up.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's interesting. We didn't see any screws! If you actually look carefully at 5:26, that's actually a RIVET where a screw would normally be.

[@FlickTheBrick]

Hardware Canucks Huh, that’s interesting. There should be two screws holding the bracket in place. I’ve personally used this bracket to install an AIO in the OMEN Obelisk, which uses the same chassis, except for the front plate. I also know many people that have used the bracket to mount 120mm fans. It’s possible that HP decided to limit this option on the 30L, but that seems highly unlikely, since they’re marketing this PC as upgrade-friendly. Great video and tear-down by the way. The system, while not perfect, is certainly great for beginners. The OMEN Obelisk really tought me a lot about PCs and how to upgrade them. My next PC will be DIY, but this pre-built was a great stepping stone for me.

[@glutenfreegam3r177]

I ALMOST guarantee you those panels can be punched out. 5:30 The cutout in the center is a near definite sign. Did you try tapping/punching either of these panels?

[@mohseinharon5807]

Wow.. really love how the motherboard looks

[@mohseinharon5807]

@sbowesuk yup. That's why i said i love how the motherboard looks. Not the specs. Hahaha.. love the minimal industrial look. Like one in mac pro and asus pro ws c246-ace. Pair with chromax high tower cpu cooler and change the gpu cooler to morpheus ii core edition. 😍

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah the look is there but you'd need to upgrade the whole thing if you wanted to install a higher end CPU.

[@racerex340]

@@HardwareCanucks Which then would require you to figure out how to get more airflow through that case. Only choice is punching out the top sheet metal panel where they have the mounting for another 120mm and putting a high airflow fan in exhaust mode, even then I'd imagine that if you went to a 125W TDP CPU, you would be stuck using a blower GPU.

[@bottomtext5872]

That case actually looks nice

[@HardwareCanucks]

Its clean and narrow so yeah. We're liking it....with a few mods!

[@biekevin3953]

I bought the 25L edition with GeForce RTX 3070 and the AMD Ryzen 9 3900. My CPU has been getting temperatures at around 70°C when idle. I guess the cooler fan is not enough? Or did HP use cheap cooling paste? Or should i just replace the cooling fan with a better one? If so which one? Thanks

[@albertoguillen2706]

How did you solved?

[@somedude1324]

It’s because the cpu is set to run at 100% at all times. If you go into the power settings you can set the minimum power to 5% and maximum power to 99%. Runs better after that. Check out DanKamYouKnow on KZbin. Great content on upgrading the Omen.

[@sushii4225]

The spot up top for another fan that you advised against using...theres actually more too it..if you look at it closely, there is 4 square indentions on the bracket, and what youre supposed to do is gently pop out those 4 squares thus creating air flow. give it a try

[@biekevin3953]

Awesome that you noticed that but i tried it and it popped a little like you said but is it enough to create a decent airflow?

[@sushii4225]

Well you should essentially have 4 open square shaped holes, and just being open by itself helps with the airflow for sure, but the real purpose of it is to add fans. Thats actually the purpose of it if im not mistaken, its a fan bracket.

[@sushii4225]

@@biekevin3953 really though the main goal, in regards to that spot, should be to get some fans up there. When you consider the placement of the rgb front fan that comes with it and how low it is, its perfect for providing air to the gpu...and than with added fans on top, it will hit all the important hot spots. If you sit and think about it and look it over youll see what i mean...if i explained well lol

[@biekevin3953]

@@sushii4225 I used some force and got them all popped out. I will add an extra fan there and also replace the cpu fan because it gets too hot when idle (70°C). Do you also have this rig? Thanks for the help btw

[@sushii4225]

@@biekevin3953 having a wall there as opposed to not deff makes a difference..but really what that whole metal thing that you poipped the squares off of is is a bracket to attach an aio cooler or extra fans to. thats the real point..than just add a fan or two into the bottom next to psu...boom

[@miguelagueda3928]

Is it just me, or are they using square mounting holes for the cooler instead of the standard AM4 ones?

[@racerex340]

Looks like an Intel cooler mounting, right?

[@joelvermiglio2097]

I bought one of these just before Xmas. I wanted to build my own but couldn’t get a 30-series card anywhere, and still can’t. This seemed like a good way to get hold of one. My spec is Ryzen 7 3700X RTX 3070 16Gb 3200Mhz 256Gb M.1 1Tb HDD The spec isn’t mind blowing at £1600 I could have built it for less I’m sure but it’s plug and play and fairly upgradable. After 2 weeks with it I’ve a few thoughts, some of which have been touched on in the comments here already. The CPU cooling is woeful. The images and video in the HP website are misleading (they are generic and show a higher end unit fitted with an AIO). My fault for not reading the description thoroughly - one of the “special features” is the fitment of an Air Cooler Solution for CPU. In my usage so far (Warzone on ultra and DaVinci Resolve video editing) I had been seeing CPU temps exceeding 90 degrees and on a stress test I had to abort when it hit 97. Yesterday I fitted a ‘budget’ AIO which lack PWM pump control yet it still much quieter than the stock fan. I’ve dropped temps by 30 degrees in generally usage and stress testing saw it peak at only just over 80. Clearly a cost saving to not include the AIO on this model but it’s disappointing. Worth mentioning that in this video he claims it’s not a good idea to fit the top fan because the exhausts are just blanked off. Sadly he must not have looked closely because those blank panels just pop out and allow good airflow. Secondly, and probably understandable given the standard thermal limitations, but there is no overclocking feature integral to the machine. Another thing misleading in the item description on their website, where it clearly states there is a simple tool for overclocking. It exists on other (Intel based) Omen machines but not on this AMD version. Now I’ve got temperatures under control I’ll look at doing it with AMD own software. The “bios” on the HP motherboard is very limited and offers little to no customisability. Finally, it’s odd they chose to ignore NVidia’s own recommendation on the power supply. 500W Bronze is a real poor choice from HP and again apparent it’s built by accountants. With the cooler upgrade it’s actually pretty capable. I’d like to have had a larger NVMe and an SSD instead of HDD but otherwise not a lot else I’d rush to change.

[@joelvermiglio2097]

*256Gb M.2 of course - not M.1 😂

[@pitaluke1995]

as a person who works in tech support i see why they made a lot of the decisions but as a enthusiast im glad that they are striving to find a middle ground. i still hate the hdd mounts being infront of the intakes...

[@TommyThousandFaces]

I can imagine the people at HP, sitting around a table and discussing what can be taken off of a motherboard before it becomes useless. There's almost literally NOTHING on that motherboard, every connector is populated, you can't add more RAM without running it a 2400MHz and removing the old RAM, you can't add a fan. The only upgrades you can do are GPU and add ONE HDD. If that's upgradability I might aswell say that Apple makes upgradable computers.

[@biekevin3953]

You can add a fan on the top of the case. The metal plates are removable

[@TheRealThisIsAlex]

Thats the saddest vram cooling (if can call that) on a motherboard ive seen

[@HardwareCanucks]

VRM? Seems the temps were totally OK but DON'T try overclocking.

[@ej_tech]

As long as the user keeps using a down draft cooler and never overclocks, it should be fine. Maybe.

[@nickrajewski7563]

For me it was the USB ports. I guess I have been spoiled, but I could basically only plug in my base peripherals with this setup.

[@dennissmith1435]

You can remove the black top metal plate.

[@PHOBIAx57x]

That 2080 deshrouded looks sick

[@CharcharoExplorer]

Here is what I would improve: - Add VRM heatsink. Even a small one will be of tremendous help. - Make it based on the B550. If future upgradeability is important, then PCIE4 is important. Its in the next consoles. It will matter sooner than later. - Add one more NVME slot somewhere. COuld be slower, doesnt matter. - Use a slightly better cooler. Wraith Spire with copper plug for example or Prism. - Improve airflow from the top

[@indianrockstrat]

At 04:30 you have a shot of the front with a panel above the fan. It looks an awful lot like the panel in the top with the pop-out rectangular pieces. My 30L is being built by HP so I can't check if those also pop out.

[@JustAverageJeff]

I really like the door on my Phanteks P500A RGB, it's magnetic, swings open, and lifts right up so easy to open up and take off. You only void your warranty with overclocking if you admit to overclocking.

[@dustineverhart4028]

That black bracket is removable for either a AIO or extra 120mm fan

[@thushanthsitham]

This is the correct step forward for OEM's to make gaming pcs at low prices. Is the pc you got to review a pre-production? The motherboard has some layouts for capacitors near the vrm which might mean there is a version with more overclocking features. The two holes suggest a push pin heatsink can be added for the vrm. Can I add a prism heatsink instead? Also a dust filter for this system would only impede the already poorly design front intake. Since the cpu can do direct comm to the components than a traditional chipset you end up with the less than usual io ports on the back. Pretty unique and interesting way to cut cost.

[@AgentFrosty]

Omen almost nailed it with this pre-built. If I were a first-time buyer and wasn't ready to build my own pc, this computer checks almost all the boxes. Good looks, good performance, modularity for upgrades... I'm disappointed in the case not having better airflow options though. The cost-cutting can be seen in this area, as well as the motherboard. Gotta keep the margins up though. Can I build a comparable/better pc for the same money? Of course I can, I already have. But a few tweaks to this pc *cough* more fan mounts *cough* and it would be perfect as a high-end pre-built.

[@kaiserped]

About the pre-built thing, I was torn between DIY PC and All-in-one PC from HP. After some thoughts, I went to DIY PC even the price is a little bit higher than the AIO PC. The reason is I have more control on the DIY PC. I still like some pre-built advantages though (just plug and use, Windows 10 license, form factor, etc.)

[@itsamyers9]

The 4 slots on the top bracket can be popped out allowing for air flow if mounting a fan to the top rear of the case.

[@justingreen4450]

I bought it on sale for $960. Ryzen 7 3600x, Nvidia Geforce 2060 (not the one in this video, but a smaller card with a big fan), 16 gigs of Ram, Wifi 6.o, 250 gig SSD. I mean, you can't build one that runs this good for that kind of money, especially with all the gpu shortages. I immediately installed a top fan (this guy didn't know at the time the top plate comes out and the pieces pop out) and plugged it into the four pin pump slot. You can easily add an air cooler, then you can overclock whatever you want. You can use Ryzen Master to add any RAM brand you want and set it at the speed you want. I uninstalled all the bloatware, shut down all the apps I don't use on startup, and this thing is lightning fast. Don't listen to the haters, this is a great pc for the money.

[@thelesls]

So, from 05:22 up to 05:35 you guys tried to be funny about the metal plate blocking the vents, but, I can see in the video the screws holding it on the top of the case, it is not possible that you guys miss that. Also, this looks very much like those metal plates that pop-off letting you with the opened space, just like those in the PCI slots.

[@alfredl3831]

The top plate has knockouts to allow for a fan to be added.

[@El_Ponyboy]

@5:34 the top bracket you can unscrew and remove the plates. I thought the same not until I decided to mess with it. Now I have a water cooler on that bracket 👍🏼

[@dgafkucky]

I am on my son's second build we are building a sff.. But as someone who works 6 days a week I am just do not have the time sometimes or just to tired to build a new pc for my self and I think these prebuilts have a place for that

[@suny0000]

Top fan mount has four cutouts with a cross hole (for a screwdriver) to remove them. Just like PCI slot covers in some cheap cases...

[@Wigglythegreat2]

Yes exactly

[@ConfyScenty]

Awesome review. Very thorough and detailed analysis.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

Its not bad, the chassis is actually kind of nice, I am surprised. Honestly, Its probably better to just build your own, but, If you are going to buy I would recommend Maingear over anybody, yeah a high price, but those guys are miles better than the competition and they have really nice case options that don't suck.

[@nibelungvalesti]

With the latest bios update, HP unlocked manual RAM tuning in the bios!

[@storm91229]

This wasn't only meticulously engineered but was also quite perfectly executed! This is the way to go OMEN.. Looking forward to better engineering HP (OMEN)! Now why I'm looking out for is a performance check that involves a lil mod that includes changing that CPU Cooler for an after market air or AIO liquid cooler...😉😉😉😎😎😎

[@josephradhik]

Love that E matched his shirt and T shirt to the Omen color scheme!

[@eliyang]

I love that mATX case. Wish there was something like that in DIY space.

[@dennissmith1435]

The older Omen I worked with had a proprietary connector on the MB for the lighting. So, if you were to replace the MB, you're probably be out of luck with the control module that comes with the system. Unless they changed the MB interface to say, USB or a standard ARGB header. The MB was also proprietary, and some of the case cables, like the front IO were obviously designed to only reach the connectors as they were on the proprietary MB. Replacing the MB, if you chose to, was an issue. I tried.

[@DavyJonesSimRacing]

Why is a Ryzen 9 with RTX 2080 super referred to as "middle of the road" would that not be a fairly decent gaming PC? And why a 2080 Super when the build selection screen before shows them offering a 2060 Super or a 2080 Ti? And at 04:34 there's a fan spinning intermittently in the lower rear of the case close to what looks like the PSU, minor thing just noticed it or maybe I was seeing things 😁

[@HardwareCanucks]

This was in reference to the entire Omen lineup. Middle of the road because there are MUCH higher end configs with the RTX 2080 Ti, 2TB NVMe, 32GB of memory and 2x 2TB HDDs. In Omen's Ryzen lineup this is a middle-priced spec actually. So we should all be happy they're KILLING it with super high end Ryzen systems.

[@Lightsout565x]

I've looked into this pre-built myself (it's offered at Best Buy) but my main concern is that it comes with a B450 board, and HP has said nothing about if they will provide a bios update for Ryzen 4000 support in the future. For myself, any system I buy now *needs* to be compatible with Ryzen 4000 for potential upgrades in the future.

[@HardwareCanucks]

This is a GREAT question. We'll reach out to HP / Omen to see if they can provide some guidance.

[@dennissmith1435]

I also found the cable management to be lacking. There wasn't much room behind the back panel for cable management and there is no PSU shroud to hide cables.

[@panthros7395]

I think it would have been helpful to talk about the performance of the 5700XT compared to the 2080 Super. I think the 5700XT provides great entry level performance for people. For example, the Ryzen 7, 16GB of RAM, 1TB NVME with the 5700XT is 1389.99 which is a great entry level price people can expand on. I know a lot of people who want an entry level gaming rig and do not want to build or have someone build something. The Omen gives people support to friends and family so you don't have to ;). Lots of good reasons for people to look at this PC. Thanks for reviewing.

[@aesther4250]

My ryzen 7 3700x sits at around 50-60c at idle and goes up to 70-80c while gaming. Should i be concerned?

[@itsdeonlol]

Please do more tear downs like this Eber!!!

[@BunnyHitsBills]

The top mounting rack for the 120 mm fan it comes apart

[@Lord_Ralph]

Despite a few glaring shortcomings, a decent system as far as pre-builds go.

[@racerex340]

They could have saved $200 in cost going with a 3700x and better cooling & case ventilation and given users better gaming performance, which is clearly what Omen/HPwas targeting here. That 3900 is a great CPU, but it's geared more towards content creators / developers and other professionals that use their rig to make money, but the GPU and other components fly in the face of productivity use. This rig just doesn't make any sense.

[@og3171995]

HOW DO YOU TAKE OFF THE TOP PANEL?!!!? It looks like the whole front with the fan and light needs to come off, is this true? Why is there no info on this

[@entertainment-knone9344]

The thing is, even HP's specs are all wrong on the Omen 30L. First, their specs say there is an available M.2 slot for a second SSD drive. This is incorrect, I've tried looking for it. The only available slot is the one that's currently occupied with the 1TB SSD . Second, every image I've seen of their motherboards say that there are only 2 RAM slots. Mine has four of them.

[@satyanreddy007]

the DOP of the video is so cool 😎

[@RJBuildsPcs]

This build is VERY interesting!

[@ismailfaris123456]

The HP Omen 30L is a great looking AMD Ryzen gaming PC with a unique Ryzen 9 3900X CPU so we decided to do something a bit different with it. I thought it uses 3900?

[@racerex340]

yes, 3900, not 3900X

[@bigred2989]

I just got a 30L and I guess they're using a new motherboard because the SSD isn't in the same place. In fact I can't figure out where they put it. Might be behind the GPU which would be a bear to remove.

[@grimreaper3909]

the top bracket has pop off tab plates to mount a fan on the top so he was wrong

[@riba2233]

Great, another maximum savings and cooling is on the edge oem system with almost no upgradeability.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Upgrade the cooling (its a standard AM4 mount) and boom. Done. But yes, like we said Omen could have done better with the cooler selection.

[@riba2233]

@@HardwareCanucks still not god, gpu cooling is subpar, and case ventilation also. And you are limited with cooler height. It is also not standard am4 mount, it uses intel mount, really weird but hey :) Now, it wouldn't be a big issue if it wasn't marked up a few hundred bucks.

[@makeemmoist420]

@@riba2233 yeah by the looks of it he has no idea what hes talking about, this prebuilt is almost as terrible as my predator g3 prebuilt of which im currently rebuilding into a lancool 2 mesh on a z270i rog board

[@vaibhavravichandran]

I clicked the video because I saw the camera battery in the thumbnail and I got confused for a sec. Enjoyed it nonetheless

[@pixxel17]

Prebuilt have become a viable option for buyers over the past few years. They used to be overpriced and locked in terms of upgrades. This system shows the evolution in the prebuilt space and puts up a fight for getting a prebuilt as a first time pc owner :3

[@HardwareCanucks]

100% agreed.

[@Fishbait075]

One thing you dont make clear.... is it a standard AMD cooler mount? As in, *COULD* you fit your own cooler, or is the high from the standoffs different to restrict you?

[@HardwareCanucks]

Sorry about that but YES its a standard AM4 mount!

[@PyromancerRift]

Dude, what ? You tell blower cards are hotter, louder and slower. The graph shows it is exactly that and you tell it's not bad ? I hope HP is proud of its new employees.

[@PraveenAp005]

Only 2 dimm slots for 3900 cpu? Good luck with your productivity

[@idkconflict]

Should I get the nzxt H1 or the Corsair one? Which is better? (Both are ryzen 9 3900x 2080 super)

[@191desperado]

Nobody ever thinks about upper metal plate cooling. Finally HP! Finally!!!

[@zionholmberg9404]

What did he say about the CPU, it is available in stores

[@elbaff]

Why have a clear/glass side panel if the system looks pretty bad on the inside? I just don't get it.

[@greenprotag]

Would love to see a CPU cooler upgrade for this system. Something that integrates with the existing RGB. Also... is that an 80mm exhaust fan at the back? Why?

[@Louukang]

what are the specs lxwxh of the psu

[@michaelom7136]

Will it be possible to upgrade and put the new Nvidia cards in the 30l? I mean will I be able to fit it in there? Heard those cards will be huge?

[@anthonycoburn5011]

Unfortunately I have this pc I see all the negatives about it Im furious I bought this I was reckless and in a rush but what are some fans or gpu coolers that are compatible and make somewhat of a difference?

[@Arashmickey]

That's a PC case I'd buy for a DIY build, if only it had better intake and a 120mm exhaust port. The exhaust port needs to be wide enough for proton torpedoes... just in case.

[@PSYCHO_55555]

Do you recommend me to get only the case and put my own custom pc on it ?

[@titostacos114]

just saying your supposed to push out the those little thing the on the 120mm fan mount

[@Wigglythegreat2]

They should have added a second 120mm intake fan in the front and used a better cpu cooler.

[@fastturtle4522]

Decent price point when you factor in a $700 GPU. Yes it could be cheaper but it does look like a DIY system.. A bit dissapointed on the Ram Slots as it really does need a set of four for expansion. On the Cooler choice, it looks like the stock Wraith cooler, which surprised me with how well t works on an R5 1600 in Ambient temps of 35+c.

[@joetuktyyuktuk8635]

I actually considered buying a ROG Strix gaming unit, not to use but because of parts shortages and pricing, it was almost worth it to strip it for parts and use them with a upgraded motherboard, ram and psu...but I nixed the idea, in favor of better parts overall.

[@lucas_yinghao]

Would love to see a review on the Ryzen 3900! Extremely interesting CPU for small ITX builds, and would love to know what's the minimum price to get one :) e.g. what's the cheapest pre-build PC that comes with this CPU so the enthusiast can get one only for getting the CPU and sell the rest parts :)

[@HardwareCanucks]

Coming soon!

[@racerex340]

I've heard that OEM's and system builders pay about $300 each for the 3900 / 3900 Pro, but that's probably in quantities of at least 100 chips at a time. Might even be less by now.

[@kaydogcreations]

take my advice. the case it has is shit at air circulation and it will run hot. is there a way that i can find a LARGER case that will fit this certain motherboard, because everywhere I look, I cannot find something that says it will be compatible.

[@n00bSWBF2]

You shirts are always looking so clean. Where do you buy them?

[@Im0rtalChe3ri0s]

I was wondering if I could transfer windows from this PC over to another PC? Since I’m switching out the mobo and such

[@iHasCaek]

the hard drives/ssds should have been mounted where an optical drive would be, and horizontally. then they could probably make more room for another intake fan/cutout.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Agreed. We literally had a 2 hour call with Omen discussing areas we think can be improved for the next generation. This was one of the points so good eyes sir!

[@rodrigogarciamz]

Hi, After watching this video I bought the Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB but it docent fit. the glass side can't be closed when installed. I had to send the 212 back.

[@McFlyOrPie]

You can swap the GPU and CPU, that's about the only upgrade you can do. Unless you're okay with ram at 2133mhz... 😂 It's a great PC for somebody that's wants to get into PC gaming, but isn't worried about changing much or doing a ton of hardware and\or software changes. I was told it was easy to upgrade by a Micro Center employee. Found out quick, I was mislead. I took the CPU and GPU and used it to build a whole new PC. Was my first ever, solo build. Which is why I just wanted a prebuilt. It's been since 2005 since I did more than just use a PC for internet or games.

[@unds85]

I just bought the Omen 30L Ryzen 5600g rtx 3060 1TB SSD 16GB Memory (Air Cooled) should I be worried about this configuration overheating or any other problems with this Particular Omen30L setup?