Quick Overview of the ADDAC 112 Looper / Granular Processor

[@CinematicLaboratory]

What an amazing machine! Some of my subscribers pointed me in the direction of the 112 and somehow I only saw the expander and couldn't figure out how it could possibly work. Your video definitely cleared that up. Thank you for sharing!

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Yeah, it's so deep and full of possibilities, and yet intuitive and exciting to use.

[@tonyt303]

Thank you for this Omri. Only had this machine a week but have been really struggling to get any function out of it. Finally getting somewhere after watching this.

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Glad I could help!

[@antoinekerglonou1546]

Great module ! The "oooh yeah" at 15:30 is really appropriate ! Nice demo, as always :)

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Glad you like it!

[@olastrandh2977]

great video!

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Thanks!

[@allenmorganaudio]

Instant buy at 15:28 …great video

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Cheers!

[@allenmorganaudio]

Arrives tomorrow 🙌

[@SONICrider]

Ah, this tutorial convinced me of getting one - so kinda thanks - cool overview \0/

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@JuanDale]

So cool! It sounds very musical. Thanks for the video!

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Hey, thanks!

[@fabiancortes6255]

Such a good video frankly, thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion with those who have the curiosity to dive into Eurorack madness.

[@OmriCohen-Music]

I appreciate it!

[@briangarrison2021]

Great video! Just got mine today , and thanks to your video I feel like I can jump into this module and have lots of fun!

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Thanks! Let me know how it goes :)

[@njdpdv]

Hey Omri... It's Nicolas! I'm reaching out to you from the future.... just wanted to let you know I just bought this EPIC module! In the past you have succeeded in forcing me to buy the Expert Sleepers ES-8, my first module that I use with the iPad. Now you are directly responsible for this very fortunate event 😆

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Hope you enjoy it! :)

[@njdpdv]

@@OmriCohen-Music Certainly!

[@RickBatyrMusic]

So good! Thanks for this! This module really has a lot of possibilities and sounds really great. And who knows where future firmware may go

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Yeah, there's so much to explore already, and so much potential.

[@RickBatyrMusic]

@@OmriCohen-Music yeah now got me thinking I may need more modulation sources lol

[@nikjewell]

i'm going to need another case ;) Great overview. I'm impressed by the looper. Thanks (I think!) Omri :)

[@OmriCohen-Music]

If I had a Euro for each time I said to myself the exact same thing, I need a bigger case, I would have the money to buy one :) But yeah, maybe it's a good idea to have it in a case of its own.

[@cci35]

Thanks for a great demo, you sure are becoming the master if granular within the modular world :)

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Granular is life :)

[@nelen_co]

Fantastic video thank you

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@holmmusic1232]

Great video and beautiful stuff. Oh yeah!

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@oddObjekt]

I've been waiting to get my hands on an Arbhar but this is making me rethink that.

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Oh, Arbhar is so beautiful...

[@oddObjekt]

@@OmriCohen-Music I know! hard choices.

[@faruambient]

great video! but I am really put off by small displays in modular. but it seems like you dont really need to look at it for most things? can it do live processing too?

[@joshuavantassel]

Any idea on when these will be available on the market? I haven’t been able to find many details!

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Well, the first run was sold out already, I pre ordered mine a few months ago, didn't get it from ADDAC directly or anything so I guess that they are already in production. According to Thomann, they should be available in a week.

[@mikenoface]

Omri voice: "Oh yeahhh".

[@nextg.5899]

Schönes Video aber würde gern hören was man mit Perkussion loops anstellen könnte .

[@rastcheck6037]

Thanks so much for the vid!! 😀 About the looper, is it possibile to record on top of one loop whitout delete the previously record loop? I mean like having layers of sound that play at the same time? When you overdubbed the piano loop at 3:30 it seems that it deleted a piece of the previously recorded loop. Thanks :)

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Yeah, you can set the overdub control to max so it will just record on top without lowering the levels of the already recorded material.

[@rastcheck6037]

@@OmriCohen-Music thanks :) :)

[@anthonyniedzwiecki33]

Is one able to manually trigger grains (via a trigger input), similarly to Arbhar? I'm looking to replace Arbhar because I can't deal with its noise floor, but would miss being able to trigger grains. How is the noise on the 112? Anything like Arbhar or Morphagene? Or is it clean sounding? Thanks for the info you've already provided! And for making demos using sounds I like to granulate

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Cheers! I actually sold mine a few months ago. I went back to a smaller 7U case so I didn't have space for it... There were a few updates since then so things might work differently.

[@GeorgeLocke]

there's crackle in the flute loop at 8:04. Where is that coming from?

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Maybe I just recorded it a bit too hot and the KZbin compression made sure to accentuate it.

[@Jimantronic]

Great overview, thanks Omri. Do you think this would also work well for rhythmic material, for example feeding it a basic drum loop and inputting some rhythmic gates so it could slice and chop up a beat in an interesting way?

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Well, you could do something like that by setting a small grain size and randomly jumping through the loop, triggering the grains with a rhythmic clock source. To be honest, I still didn't try this and I feel like I didn't scratched the surface with it even. It's so deep...

[@sumocloud]

It seems like it could, with the in built loop divisions..

[@NRG____]

Hey Omiri, thanks for another great video. I noticed in your comment (maybe on a different video) that you no longer have the 112. I love what you do with granular synthesis so I wanted to ask if you wouldn't mind telling a little about this decision. I have one, still in the box, trying to decide what to do with it. After purchasing, I have noticed a relative lack of videos on this module (as compared to other granular modules) and there seem to be more comments about bugs rather than excitement or praise about this thing. I was just wondering what influenced your decision to sell it as I try to decide whether I should return this and look into something else as there seem to be many other, great options. I know this is an extremely personal decision and am not looking for "advice" so to speak, I just admire your work and was wondering what it was about this particular module that made you sell it and/or what about the other modules you use, in comparison, that make you keep coming back to them. I appreciate your music and your opinion. Please keep up the great work on this channel.

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Hi! Well, I decided I want to go back to a smaller setup with a 7U case so this module was just way to big. I had a few firmware issues but the people at ADDAC were quite supportive and updated the firmware pretty quickly a few times. I kept Arbhar as my main granular module and I'm really happy with it. It's deep and intuitive, and very musical. But yeah, basically, I sold the 112 because it was just too big and I have other options for granular and looping.

[@AdiGoldsteinComposer]

❤️

[@mfl9903]

I noticed some aliasing noise when you change the sample speed. Is it to be expected? That would be a deal breaker for me, which is really a pity as it seems really feature rich. Thanks for the informative video.

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Well, yeah, there's some sample rate reduction when slowing down, and aliasing when speeding up.

[@rhampton1914]

i was thinking of selling my Make Noise Morphagene. Can this package do what the Morphagene does & more? possibly?

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Well, no, not really. With Morphagene you can scan through the recording, and also create splits. The ADDAC is granular and it can loop, but you cannot process the loops in the same way you can on Morphagene. Why do you want to sell it?

[@rhampton1914]

@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for your reply. Well my Little small Modular setup has no more room. The only way i can get the ADDAC is if i sell the Morphagene and i already have a little space left just enough for the ADDAC but i think i'll hold off because like you say, i love the Creating Splits and scanning through the recording and syncing Rhythm. & i hear Morphagene is instant gratification where the ADDAC requires more hands on & Menu...i could be wrong but probably it would best if i just kept the Morphagene.....

[@OmriCohen-Music]

@@rhampton1914 Morphagene is definitely more hands on, and is a performative module. I wouldn't say that the ADDAC is mostly about menus and such. It's actually quite intuitive and there's almost no need to use the menu. Everything is right there on the panel. I think that the main differences are basically that the ADDAC is granular, while the Morphagene is more of a tape machine.

[@rhampton1914]

@@OmriCohen-Music Hi again..Just to let you know i purchased the ADDAC112 from Perfect Circuit Audio. Should get in the mail this week. Can't wait..i'm excited. Will let you know when i get in mail. I'll follow up on Facebook...

[@OmriCohen-Music]

@@rhampton1914 Nice! I'm curious to know what you think about it :)

[@blackknightsatellite3847]

Thank you Omri for the Video. I got a Question. When you change the Pitch I hear some serious Aliasing. Is it only during Pitch change or did you notice some Aliasing, especially when playing loops a lower speeds?

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Yeah, there are some artifacts but I'm still not so sure if it's only my unit or it's something in the firmware I have installed. I'm working on figuring it out.

[@mamakuproject]

Yeah that wasn’t so good. Apart from that it’s like arbhar slept with nebulae v2

[@mamakuproject]

@@ratchetboo yo I know about aliasing and character I’ve got my fair share of vintage samplers. What I heard here was strong aliasing on turning the dial and then settling to the sound once on the new pitch.

[@GeorgeLocke]

(professor frink enters) technically speaking, "aliasing" only happens when pitching up. Pitching down produces sample-rate-reduction.

[@GeorgeLocke]

You can hear the problem at 6:23. This is definitely a sample rate artifact. it's hard to tell if the artifacts are happening when the knob is moving and stop once you leave it in place, but either way, it is preventable. This is the kind of artifact you can get from the Max/MSP object index~ docs.cycling74.com/max8/refpages/index~ Index~ is a kind of "brute force" sample playback where you send it a sample index and it simply spits out the value of the buffer at that index. If you advance the index at the native sample rate of the buffer, it sounds normal, but any other speed will produce artifacts because index~ doesn't interpolate between samples. From the Max manual, "Since the index~ object does no interpolation, it is less useful for general sample playback tasks than play~, groove~ etc.." The point is that simple DSP interpolation algorithms can remove these artifacts, and hopefully ADDAC will implement them because they really are simple and standard.

[@edalstrobert8628]

Amazing, just watching it now. How much rack space does it take up?

[@bci3937]

Strombedarf: 240 mA (+12 V) / 70 mA (-12 V) Breite: 32 TE (ADDAC 112A) + 13 TE (ADDAC 112B) Tiefe: 45 mm

[@edalstrobert8628]

@@bci3937 That's great, thank you for the detailed reply

[@bci3937]

@@edalstrobert8628 np:D

[@edalstrobert8628]

Another quick question, do you need to use the CV modulation module or can you just use the granular processor independently?

[@bci3937]

@@edalstrobert8628 i dont know...but first look for other granular synths (Arbhar)....i only can find the SET of two modules...write a mail to addac....

[@cci35]

Do you know if it is possible to set a maximum length for the buffer and make it overdub itself so it can act as a granular effect ala clouds rather than a dedicated granular looper btw? //or to achieve this by some other method :)

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Well, yeah, you can also continuously process incoming audio and process it live, and there are even a couple of settings you can use to add some variation to this like recording probability and recording delay.

[@cci35]

@@OmriCohen-Music basically sounds like a great module :) The recording probability seems like a huge deal to me; the module feels super thought through. I get if you don't want to spend your whole day in the comment section; but if you have time at some point I would love to hear your take on pros/cons vs arbhar :) Like in your texture video, which I loved. That video really showcased some differences in granular approach between all those great modules. Would love to know how the 112 measures up to them.

[@OmriCohen-Music]

@@cci35 No worries :) I love Arbhar. Up until recently, it was the only module that I really felt like it's going deeper into granular territories, and it's so musical. Unlike the 112, it has a built in mic you can use to record practically anything into it, it has a built in reverb you can modulate, and it's much smaller than the 112. On the other hand, the 112 has a looper engine you can use together with the granular engine, it has many more controls on the panel, more CV inputs, an on board SD card, and it's also stereo in. I consider myself lucky to have both, and I will keep both because to me they feel quite different, the results are quite different and the workflow as well.

[@cci35]

@@OmriCohen-Music thanks for elaborating :) I seem to have some thinking to do 😅 something with the accessibility of the 112 really resonates with me; glad to see that developers keep pushing the boundaries of granular!

[@patricketp8356]

If you add some light to your video, you will raise the contrast and the text is better readable. Also raise contrast in post. I use this here the Boling P1 for 130 Euro

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Thanks for the tip! I should really improve my setup...

[@andresgrumann4079]

nice video, what reverb you ad at the end of the video?

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Thanks! That's Suppermassive from Valhalla. It's so nice...

[@sumocloud]

If you trigger play whilst it is playing, does it reset?

[@OmriCohen-Music]

I'm not so sure, I'll have to test this

[@NBSStudioMusic]

what module/vst is used for the reverb? super lush

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Yeah, that's the Valhalla Supermassive. I absolutely love it!

[@TerekkiTerekki]

Sold on this - pity it's sold out everywhere

[@OmriCohen-Music]

I'm sure they will be available soon

[@synthced9536]

Now you have the Addac ? Did you keep the Arbhar ?

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Oh yes, I'm not going to get rid of Arbhar any time soon, it's one of my absolute favorites!

[@synthced9536]

@@OmriCohen-Music sure you are right. And the lubadh! I'm going more and more to granular continue Omri with your *Ouh Yeah* I watch your videos to hear that 😉 seriously really good job! Thank you

[@OmriCohen-Music]

@@synthced9536 I appreciate it, thanks!

[@arthurswj2328]

Arbhar is great for sure, how would you say this compares, in your opinion? Considering one or the other.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

I was fooled by a couple of YTers into believing that the Arbhar was the complete granular solution for me- what an expensive mistake that was- so I’m absorbing as many demos of the 112 as I can before committing. Looks to be a much more comprehensive instrument tbh; cheaper too, though rather more hp…

[@OmriCohen-Music]

Well... I actually kept Arbhar and sold the 112... But, it was mostly because of space issues. I went back to 7U, so I couldn't keep the 112. I'm sure that there were many interesting updates to the 112 in the last year or so.