On board HMS Queen Elizabeth for exercise Steadfast Defender

#HMSQueenElizabeth #F35 #NATO

[@frankmueller6522]

Go forward, Great-Britain! Long live the Nato! Long live freedom! Down with all dictatorships and terrorists all around the world! Best wishes from Germany!

[@MikeC1965]

Especially the dictators within the European Union parliament. 🙏🏻

[@kaij.d7307]

Greetings from the UK to our German cousins. Glad to see German military spending on the increase.

[@robbillington1982]

Long live canzuk!

[@coyoacan73]

Thank you and sincere best wishes to you and our German friends. Although there are many of us in the UK (me included) who voted for Brexit; please do not confuse this with our admiration for your country and our resolute commitment to NATO.

[@gusgone4527]

Which is why we should invite Israel into NATO, even if that means dropping Turkey. The world has changed and so has the threat.

[@flyboy747uk]

Wishing all the UK armed forces and our friends from the USA best wishes. Return home safely and protect us from all that wish us harm.🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@1IbramGaunt]

Don't forget the Dutch haha

[@1IbramGaunt]

@Arthur Humphreys I meant that in a GOOD way? I.e. they're contributing too so don't forget?

[@ellepant]

What, our leaders.

[@selfco8142]

Good luck to the carrier strike group, respect to the USA for trusting the Royal navy with there F35S & marines onboard HMS QE, and much thanks & appreciation for every other ship escorting her, safe journey.

[@gusgone4527]

@@1IbramGaunt Who?

[@syncropair]

I live in Portsmouth and have missed the carrier's sailing out every time. Please come home on a Sunday.......

[@joshuaeksteen1944]

HMS Queen Elizabeth will be away for 28 weeks as part of the carrier strike group. You might be able to catch HMS Prince of Wales coming and going for her certifications and exercises, PoW returned on Wednesday.

[@sshep86]

Want a good look? Book a holiday to China. She's on her way. ;)

[@GrampaSpencersAmazingDentures]

Sam, just pop along to Dover and you'll see lot's of little boats coming in full of illegals.

[@discoginge3014]

@@GrampaSpencersAmazingDentures sound about right we sail out well they sail in.

[@GrampaSpencersAmazingDentures]

@@discoginge3014 Waved in by the hapless Border Farce, while we go sabre rattling with the CCP.

[@selfco8142]

Safe journey to everyone involved in this momentus occasions, thanks to all our allies for escorting her.

[@MetaView7]

this is a momentus occasion indeed. This is a farewell tour. This will be the last time UK fleets sail the seven seas.

[@ingurlund9657]

Great report from the ship. Hope there's many more.

[@JohnSmith-co7qt]

2 supercarriers,Astute class fast attack subs, First of Dreadnaught class SLBM under construction Type 45 Destroyers and a new class of Corvette.Royal Navy back big time.

[@1IbramGaunt]

What new class of Corvette?

[@JohnSmith-co7qt]

@@1IbramGauntMy mistake.I was thinking of frigates.

[@selfco8142]

Agree, but would like to see 8 type 45s, at least 16 frigates, both Bulwark & Albion operational at same time and ideally a replacement for HMS Ocean.

[@76Gazz]

*SSBN ;-)

[@michaelsalt4565]

Very large carriers rather than a super carrier, only the US operates super carriers which is why they cost around US $11bn each

[@ugstar]

It's shameful we only have 8 uk jets on our own aircraft carrier

[@HarryPicard]

I mean, its bad, but its kinda the point of the exercise at the same time i guess😂

[@weeddegree]

Nice to see our oldest ally, Portugal as a base

[@MetaView7]

Portugese just want to make wine and have good food. Who cares about your senseless expedition.

[@videowilliams]

I love that Lightning casually floating through the background at the end (4:45) :D

[@mememaster2112]

I don’t think that’s a lightning . Lightning’s aren’t VTOL. And the lightning was an interceptor that served during the 1960s and 70s and was retired in the 80s

[@videowilliams]

Oh for goodness' sake@@mememaster2112- "Lightning II" I should've said.

[@trooperbaileybear]

Wonderful and vital collaboration with our NATO allies. I love to see my Marine Corp aboard Her Majesty's namesake Ship:).

[@williamjordan5554]

It's not named after the current Elizabeth.

[@ingurlund9657]

@@williamjordan5554 True it's not. But great friendship from the original commenter. God bless the US.

[@robertcook2572]

@@williamjordan5554 He didn't say it was

[@williamjordan5554]

@@robertcook2572 That's the implication. Nobody refers to ancient royalty with "His/Her Majesty " it's like "Mr. President."

[@robertcook2572]

Thank you for your friendly and appreciative comment. Hardware is all well and good, but the real strength of any armed forces lie in experience, training, morale and co-operation. I'm certain this deployment will serve to make our alliance stronger than ever.

[@ThatCarGuy]

While I personally prefer the F35b to the C, the vertical landing really does take a lot longer. I guess that's why the US bought more C's, but the ability to take off and land almost anywhere is amazing. But that's also why the B version costs the most haha.

[@1IbramGaunt]

Doesn't have to take that long though, when time's pressing there's a rolling landing they can do instead that the British pilots have been practicing

[@MetaView7]

it doesn't matter; none of them ever worked properly. it has been a bottomless money pit.

[@ThatCarGuy]

@@MetaView7 Please troll someone else, thanks.

[@MetaView7]

@@ThatCarGuy The truth hurts. that's why turkey ditched it canada wouldn't touch it taiwan is not buying it australia won't even consider it

[@ThatCarGuy]

@@MetaView7 "that's why turkey ditched it" And the trolling continues. Turkey was kicked out of the program. Oh Noooo Canada and Taiwan are too poor to afford it. I guess just because Taiwan and Canada can't afford them Israel, Japan, South Korea, Poland, Belgium,UAE,UK, Singapore and so on use them mean nothing. The F35 can track ballistic missiles, use its DAS to see real time ground targets, is stealth, has the most powerful fighter engine ever built, and cost less then 4th gen fighters. The F35a cost less then 80 million which is less then the Su35, Eurofighter, etc. If you continue to troll you will be blocked, i don't deal with it.

[@worthvapor7296]

UK and the US forever!

[@MetaView7]

LOL forever what?

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 mutual friends? Mutual allies, mutual partners? Countries with mutual respect? Countries that know they can rely on each other, mutually, to have each other's backs through thick and thin, FOREVER? Not concepts the Chinese know much about huh

[@MetaView7]

@@1IbramGaunt mutual friends? What do you know? you have been plundering the colonies for ages. China has been building railways in africa since the Mao days, when china was poor and was being sanctioned by the west. Today, china has extended the effort with the Belt and Road Initiative. There are railways in place all the way to Germany. 1/3 of Porsche's production will be ship to China via the railway instead of the sea. What is the carrier strike group going to do?

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 yeah ok that's all just complete and utter bullsh*t and even YOU know it

[@MetaView7]

@@1IbramGaunt Have you checked John Deere stock price lately? It has gone through the roof. The chinese have been buying their tractors like hot cakes. Every other xinjiang video on youtube has a green John Deere in the background. Some people are getting rich on the Chinese. Not you. You only know how to sulk.

[@GOLDF1NG3R]

Early bird here hehe

[@martincarroll8637]

Stunning show of strength and solidarity.

[@evo-labs]

The F-35 nozzle position during take off and off the ski ramp is interesting.

[@MetaView7]

because they can't afford a catapult nor the arrestor.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 funny, not seeing those on the Chinese carriers either 😉

[@Albertkallal]

Very interesting. what is amazing if you look close is how FAST the movements are - you an see tiny adjustments - the nozzle assembly moves MUCH faster then one thinks. A small gust of wind - and it pivots left, right - computers are keeping the jet balanced. The pilot can actually let go of the control stick - it will hover on the spot 100% automatic.

[@Albertkallal]

@@MetaView7 But a catapult takes 2 minutes (120 seconds) to launch a jet - a ramp takes 15 seconds. That is 8 times the launch rate of a catapult. Here is a catapult hookup and launch - it takes a very long time to launch a jet with a catapult. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYiyoXd_qdxkn6s time = 120 seconds. 4 Harriers take off - 40 seconds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJOai5-Qd6mje7M

[@siendbhcixisj]

3 mins in, captain with his feet upon the deck like its an old ford or something lmao

[@1IbramGaunt]

Yup, chair looks comfy too 🙂 the direct equivalent of the captain's chairs on Star Trek haha

[@Axispaw1]

Just to be 'that guy', he's not the Captain, he's a Lieutenant Commander... ;)

[@CharlieGolfAviation]

Fabulous - brilliant video of the F35s!

[@ronaldlasang9593]

Keep on watch sir. We should be serious on this matter.

[@kcharles8857]

They're baaack :) Go UK.

[@lukey391]

We need these for our LHDs here in Australia

[@1IbramGaunt]

They'd need some conversion work, those ships were intended for Harriers after all which are considerably smaller lighter aircraft; certainly more than possible though and I understand the Aussie government's already expressed interest in the F35

[@MetaView7]

shut up australia can't afford it.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 why don't you leave it to the Australians to decide what they can afford and what they can't

[@lukey391]

@@MetaView7 we just spent $250 billion on our military, has nothing to do if we can afford it, it’s all man power, we don’t have many Australian defence force members like we used to

[@lukey391]

@@1IbramGaunt I serve on Canberra, which is one of the LHDs my co reckons once there is a massive interest for the navy, army etc they most likely would upgrade the flight deck etc etc, if anything we need more aircraft carriers like we used to

[@michaelsalt4565]

Does anyone know why they are carrying the launch rails on the outer part of the wing? Maybe it's to disrupt their stealth signature from enemy eyes?

[@Shadowfax-1980]

Stealth is not always needed.

[@michaelsalt4565]

@@Shadowfax-1980 I know that, but doesn't answer my question

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@michaelsalt4565 don't think they ARE launch-rails in this case, think it's something to do with the big excersize they've been taking part in

[@robertcook2572]

Does anyone know whether the US Marine Corps pilots intend to use the rolling landing technique?

[@ThatCarGuy]

I would say mostly no do to them not being used on our super carriers in the US(albeit in some cases im sure they would be) we use them on our amphibious assault ships which are light-carriers, and having less width(granted our light carriers are almost the QE size, they are still smaller), id assume they would just use traditional VTOL. But in theory they could use it. But if the flight deck is more crowded it creates more risk of crashing into other jets since you have no recovery system, this is why i tend to think they wouldn't do it, unless in a real war scenario and needing to get as many sorties out/in as quick as possible.

[@sshep86]

@@ThatCarGuy Name one USA light aircraft carrier that is near the tonnage of HMS Queen Elizabeth.

[@davida8119]

Isn't it used so that armed aircraft don't have to jettison ordinance? I don't see that happening during this trip.

[@ThatCarGuy]

@@sshep86 Someones UK pride got hurt. My statement was "(granted our light carriers are almost the QE size, they are still smaller), id assume they would just use traditional VTOL. But in theory they could use it. But if the flight deck is more crowded it" The American class is 844 feet in length and 106 in beam. The Wasp class is 843 and 104 in beam. The QE class is 920 feet and 240 feet in beam. So as I stated above, they are smaller and more crowded, hence why I don't think they will do rolling landings. You then act like im trying to call them bigger or something, even though I called the light-carriers smaller. They are similar in size, and yes they are near in tonnage. The American class is about 15k tons less. A big difference would be the Ford class to QE class which is a 40k ton difference. Don't let your pride get in the way of someone just trying to answer a question. Have a good one.

[@sshep86]

@@ThatCarGuy How is fact checking on a military channel/forum anything to do with pride being hurt? But as predicted, the answer is none of them. CHeers

[@Jack3md]

VMFA-211! Cool to see the Marines onboard

[@MetaView7]

because it is so unreliable, nobody dares to fly it

[@Jack3md]

@@MetaView7 F-35 has higher mission capable rates than the raptor.

[@MetaView7]

@@Jack3md no wonder they are retiring the F22 so soon.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 both are still far superior to anything China has

[@MetaView7]

@@1IbramGaunt Who cares what you think. Is your real name Don Quixote?

[@keiming2277]

Love to see it at Victoria Harbor someday

[@colinjohnston5734]

Victoria BC? In Canada? Would be beautiful

[@eddie8414]

Long live the Realm!

[@richardpoblador631]

God bless the Royal Navy and the RAN.

[@maxt7525]

Does the UK have enough f35’s for their carriers? Or will you use US aircraft constantly to maintain numbers on the ship?

[@mikeneufield2855]

Could be US aircraft aboard at least for awhile or the time being ..the UK is ordering 42-48 F 35Bs for by this yr(have 21 now),or next,,& have 60 or 80 as planned purchases at this point ..

[@davidhouseman4328]

2025 is about when the UK will be able to put a good strength carrier alone. It also around then the F35B will be getting Meteor and Spear 3. We may still work together after but it will be more of a choice than a necessity.

[@mikeneufield2855]

@@davidhouseman4328 sounds about right, I read the 60,or 80 purchases will be in by 2023 time frame, round 2 in other words. so given a yr or 2 in get them all in and fully operational ..

[@mikeneufield2855]

@@davidhouseman4328and I meant btw round 2 insofar as the 1st 42, or 48 are already purchased and coming in ..

[@davidhouseman4328]

@@mikeneufield2855 48 is the 2025 level, though it could be slightly higher. Past that is just a decision to be taken. It will be more than 48, likely less than 138 but where it will land only the future will tell.

[@amsmith123]

Curious but why does the F35 have the door raised behind the cockpit on takeoff, doesn't that cause drag slowing the plane down on takeoff?

[@Benjd0]

It's the hatch for the lift fan, helps to pull air into it and give more vertical lift.

[@mohammadrezakhani2539]

👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@richardward5762]

The carrier, now has its teeth

[@MetaView7]

LOL with borrowed jets

[@richardward5762]

@@MetaView7 No, half of the F35's on board are uk jets

[@MetaView7]

@@richardward5762 LOL

[@roseroy64]

When they are working

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@roseroy64 not heard any complaints?

[@Dash101]

Wait so the USMC has a larger F35B presence than the RN on a RN vessel. Lockheed clearly needs to speed up deliveries. This just isn't right. Next time we need to purchase from Amazon instead, never have I ever had problems with them🤣 Edit: some of you had to have known that this was a joke. I even suspected there may be some thick heads and so put 🤣 on the initial post. So no need to make this something its not. At the end of the day we can all hope there won't be any need to use these aircraft. Plus the UK and US are allies so no need to get wound up.

[@nickbrough8335]

Its a cost saving measure liking the slow pace of building the Type 26 frigates, cancellation of warrior IFV. The list is endless.

[@jameshammonds4687]

As with any new aircraft platform the early build models do not have full capability. We have done the sensible thing and taking later build slots so they do not need millions spent in upgrades later down the line.

[@Albertkallal]

@@jameshammonds4687 This is correct - look close at the models on the decks - note the lack of markings and speed tape on the backs and top of the jets. These are the new fresh out of the box later gen models - including the better stealth's coatings. I think they also look much nicer and cleaner.

[@G1NZOU]

USMC got priority deliveries of the F35B variant

[@Albertkallal]

@Arthur Humphreys I suspect this is due to F35 A model production being higher right now. But, the F35's are coming to Britain - I don't know the delivery rate.

[@gusgone4527]

Keep posting videos like this and I'll be booking my first ever seats for the last night of the proms. "Rule Britannia ... .."

[@PenDragonsPig]

USMC should have brought some of their Harriers

[@1IbramGaunt]

Would just have rubbed salt into the wound frankly

[@PenDragonsPig]

@@1IbramGaunt the Italians, and I think, the Spanish still use them. I was going to suggest the RAF or Royal Navy buy them but with this new direction the UK MOD are taking they wouldn’t need them. Especially not with ‘TEMPEST’!!! Maybe V/STOL drones-they’ve still got 4 years or more with USMC but they are most likely desert bound with a make over of white shrink wrap.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@PenDragonsPig oh it'd be fantastic to have British Harriers on British carriers again don't get me wrong, my only problem with it is that it's likely gonna be our own bloody planes being bought back that we should've never sold in the first place

[@steven2809]

Jeremy Hannaford. You mean the British Harriers that we used 30 years ago in the a Falklands war? 🤔

[@PenDragonsPig]

@@steven2809 I believe we used first generation Harriers in the Falklands War and the USMC has flipped to Harrier II since then some of which were built in UK. Go on google earth and you’ll see some Harriers on RNAS Predannack- used for fire training I guess.

[@eltontsang9079]

👍🇬🇧💪🏼

[@florincioara]

👍👏

[@benchua7100]

cute helicopter carrier there

[@jmadmachine9819]

What is the guy in yellow doing? Looks funny lol

[@nevtinnion9431]

Will the crew be allowed to remove their face masks after 10-14 days, a bit like quarantine? Just curious

[@darrenmonks4532]

RULE BRITANNIA! Dinkum love from Down Under.

[@MetaView7]

rule my aass. even the lowly India have greater GDP than UK.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 the India we used to rule, still have great influence over, are closely allied with and who we turned INTO the country they are today you mean? 😉

[@MetaView7]

@@1IbramGaunt how many vaccines you have sent to India?

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 none actually so far, since like us they can produce their own and don't really need those? I'm sure we CAN send vaccines themselves too if the Indians ask for them however. In the meantime what we HAVE sent them though is other advanced medical equipment they definitely DO need, 200 ventilators so far with a thousand more coming, along with 3 oxygen generators and 495 oxygen concentrators, and we'll send more as needed

[@MetaView7]

@@1IbramGaunt 200 ventilators? Thank you.

[@hum2020]

USA not signing. Trade agreement why.

[@richardmurphy9006]

Weather glorious milk pond ocean 😋 again and again

[@WilliamSwartzendruber]

Our nations (U.S. + U.K.) have finished the past two world wars together. I guess we (the U.S.) will be ready to help out earlier on than the last two times.

[@mrtappyasmr7702]

Different political landscape then. The US was in 'building mode' at the time and geography meant it could be ignored for a while. It may have lasted 5 more years if you hadn't come over.

[@steven2809]

William. Well said friend 👍 xx

[@GJ-jx3md]

Very impressive progress of the RN integrating USMC F35's on exercise towards the far east. But i cant help cringing as a rtd RN officer at the clichéd statements from the RN Capt. and the address from the flag officer. Compared to the relaxed matter-of-fact statement from the US officer, the stiff pre-programmed rhetoric of the RN officers does the capability an injustice. To quote with pride Portugal as a country with 3 NATO HQs is a classic example of political opportunism and the irrelevance of these HQs contribution.

[@streaky81]

Ones an interview with the camera crew the other is a pre-prepared press thing. That's a little unfair - although, yes, little crusty maybe?

[@Shadowfax-1980]

In fairness, I think there’s a lot more pressure on the RN crew. While some of the planes are USMC, the goal of the mission is to show that the Royal Navy is a major force on the seas.

[@JohnLee-]

@@Shadowfax-1980 go buy some planes FIRST.

[@steven2809]

@@JohnLee- Stupid comment…..

[@halimhalim8701]

Halim Talafuka,Alhamdulillahirobbil Alamiin,Allahumma Amiin.@#$#.

[@suzannegoncalves9934]

🇨🇵 Dixmude.. Tonnerre.. Mistral.. F35b ?

[@mikeneufield2855]

That's an interesting thought .. its ,almost,as big as the Australian Canberra class ships,which the Australian govt was considering to operate the F 35s . its primarily or is designed as a helicopter carrier, but .. at very least it'd be an interesting idea , for cross decking ..never hurts to have options

[@Klliansimabras]

@@mikeneufield2855 They're not interest to acquire F-35

[@mikeneufield2855]

@@Klliansimabrasdidnt say they were,but would be interesting option,cross decking like I stated,force multiplier in other words ..

[@Klliansimabras]

@@mikeneufield2855 Maybe in case of war if we have to transport ship for help. Our LHD can be modified to assist you.

[@mikeneufield2855]

@@Klliansimabras yes as interoperability with the Royal Navy, or the US Navy /Marine Corps with the Wasp and America class ships , or the Italians too even , planning purchasing F 35s to operate aboard their carrier .. any of that would be an interesting and nice , or further addition to French , and Allied capability ..

[@badabingbrook6021]

The planes seam slow as fuck

[@coggers410]

That because they are hovering 😉

[@molemarden5188]

I see they was training with french navy too bring more migrants too the uk they are taking all the planes off so they can get more on,I hope they can get up the Thames so when it kicks off in London they can help

[@adamsmohammed3780]

That was good joint exercise training.

[@andrewbillingsley4163]

Not once have I seen our f35b all American??

[@jameshammonds4687]

The queen was stood next to a UK one on the news last week?

[@G1NZOU]

What? Something like 70% of the camera views of the F-35s in this video were the British ones. Look for the grey roundel under the cockpit canopy, the American ones have the US roundel instead.

[@FullPlaythroughs]

You can literally see them in the video, the ones that have the RAF symbol (the circle) are the British jets

[@Markus117d]

The F35B coming in for a landing at 3.41 is a RAF plane for one 😀

[@kacilee123]

its all smoke and mirrors there is no enemy

[@1IbramGaunt]

Think Taiwan would disagree considerably lol

[@georgebryden113]

@@1IbramGaunt Philippines too!

[@crashfaff]

ATM it's mainly a helicopter and US Marine carrier

[@steven2809]

Stupid comment….

[@donaldthomson7682]

Oh Look !! a flying Bedstead !!!!!!!!!!

[@nickbrough8335]

It's shame that the UK CSG will never have any organic refuelling capability.

[@davidhouseman4328]

It going to serve for a long time, I wouldn't commit to never.

[@Akm72]

It is technically possible for it to have an organic refuelling capability if we decide it's worth the significant expenditure.

[@nickbrough8335]

@@Akm72 F-35B carrying buddy tanks ? A helicopter is too slow/risky and the Osprey can only take off vertically from QE. That means small load weights. Like proper AWACS capability, you need catapults and traps, even if you use a ski jump as well. It's going to be an expensive modification to take useful sized drones as well.

[@Akm72]

@@nickbrough8335 I was thinking of the existing USMC V-22 air-air refuelling capability.

[@nickbrough8335]

@@markcooke5270 Because the positive isnt actually that brilliant ?

[@-V-K-]

_our_ not _my_

[@simonbryan3531]

Go east pilgrims...

[@user-rz3xw2lu7j]

นาโต้

[@Bruce-vq7ni]

Big boys and there toys - A giant ass waste of money -

[@y0r00]

LOL new age marshalling....you land there.....run off really camp

[@128bluesky]

Great SCS need more coral reef. QE would make a perfect reef.

[@keithbloomfield1341]

Listen-up Putin!

[@MetaView7]

Putin is laughing at you last time biden made an incendiary remark, Putin put him in his place, and biden has not dared to utter a bad word since. FYI, putin couldn't care less about your half aass carrier and borrowed jets. russia has better things to do (eg trade with china). the western media have brainwashed you. they make you think russia is an evil empire, while russian are just ordinary people trying to raise a family and have good food with friends. only tyrants want to build war machines.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 what, you mean war machines like the Shandong? 🙂 As for Putin and Russia tell that whole "not an evil empire" nonsense to the next Ukrainian you see, I'm sure his response will be most hospitable lol

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 also, again the jets are either all British or all American, not "borrowed", and that quote "half-assed carrier" is still superior to anything China or Russia has ever put to sea in history

[@tablegag]

Uk already in debt be in more debt

[@loragus_1683]

China get ready to run🤣

[@MetaView7]

LOL your boat barely carries enough fuel to circumnavigate the bitish isles.

[@tiddyfard4517]

We need more F35's seriously so few would do nothing against china

[@1IbramGaunt]

One of these days you may be proved very wrong about that. Remember they might be few in number but they're also one of the most advanced and capable 5th-generation stealth-fighters on the planet right now

[@mrtappyasmr7702]

@@1IbramGaunt the problem is the communists will conscript the people to pump out warships and jets faster than we could deal with.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@mrtappyasmr7702 Maybe so but that doesn't mean they're nearly as big a threat as they think they are just because of that, sheer numbers are far from everything. I'd back just ONE really capable, really well-made warship or jet-fighter with the latest technology, something actually dependable and reliable while still advanced (and I mean GENUINELY advanced not just made to look like it is) and crewed by highly-trained highly-experienced professionals, over 20 crappy cheap Chinese knock-offs of the same thing that're crewed by half-starved brainwashed teenagers with no real experience, any day of the week. That and we have a LOT of bullets & missiles 😉

[@mrtappyasmr7702]

@@1IbramGaunt I hope you're right. It's just I never see the military comment about Chinese construction ability. They build buildings and equipment at an alarming rate, while it's not as good it's still dangerous. I also think we need to do more against hypersonic missiles, Putin's plan is to persue these carries and throw an overwhelming number of missiles to take it down.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@mrtappyasmr7702 nobody who has the money to have a choice would choose a Huawei over an iPhone or Samsung

[@gcarter1973]

Your carrier! No clown its a British carrier! Paid for with British tax payers money!

[@trankt54155]

It is sad that the Brits have no money and have to borrow ten American jets to fill their carrier airwing for the first maiden carrier deployment..

[@Benjd0]

It's not really about money considering they've paid for 48 aircraft so far, it's just they've only received around half of that order right now.

[@trankt54155]

@@Benjd0 I thought they planned to acquire 100+ planes.....but each time after a review the number gets smaller and smaller because of......

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@trankt54155 the money originally intended FOR that will have been re-assigned to something else? Don't know if you've noticed but Britain's paying for a LOT of stuff right now, we've got new frigates and submarines being built as we speak, a new destroyer-class on the drawing-board too, along with new AFV's and upgraded tanks for the Army, AND a 6th-generation fighter project for the RAF getting underway

[@steven2809]

What part of NATO alliance didn’t you understand?

[@trankt54155]

@@steven2809 Do not think that since you are part of NATO does not give you a free ticket to ride.....

[@sirius9108]

F-22 raptor is still way more badass

[@shinanodafloof4491]

f-22 raptor ain't VTOL

[@anatolyadyatlov7301]

Pozzed nonsense.

[@ProfessorPesca]

Did we always have ‘CAGs’ in the RN? Seems a bit of a cringe copying of the Americans - sure it used to be Cdr Air

[@1IbramGaunt]

Why is it 'cringy' to simply do certain stuff the same way they've very successfully been doing for years, especially given half the guys he's in charge of right now ARE Americans? and the fact we've been out of the carrier game for quite a while ourselves and are practically starting over from scratch? Surely just will make working with them simpler and easier if the Brits talk more like they do. And isn't CAG short FOR "Commander Air Group" anyway?

[@ProfessorPesca]

@@1IbramGaunt It’s cringe because we always seem to change to fit the cool-sounding American job title. Or add bits of bling like the SSBN badges or wearing medals on uniforms that didn’t traditionally have them. The US do things a certain way, and that’s great, more power to them. But we don’t have to slavishly change over all our stuff all the time. Like police Scenes of Crime Officers, who now seem to be called CSI, presumably to make their job seem cooler.

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@ProfessorPesca I agree that we shouldn't ever lose sight of who we are or lose our identity trying to be cool and more American-ish, I'm just saying that in this particular case it makes sense for us to call them that ourselves too for the reasons stated above

[@walterblack7233]

Enjoy your last time with your freedom before we take it away from you😋

[@jasonbell9712]

Our capabilities, what are you on mate? We have 8 of our own fighters and 4 attact helicopters. That's not a great capability!. It just shows how low on numbers we really are. I'm fed up with this proud attitude the Royal Navy have about the carrier but in my opinion the carrier is not ready with such low numbers of our own aircraft. If it weren't for the Americans who has more fighters on OUR own carrier than we do. If it weren't for them QE wouldn't be on her deployment now. Yes this should be a proud moment, but it is not, with not enough funding and so little of our own aircraft. 8 fighters of our own is a joke, considering the QE can carrier 72 aircraft.

[@1IbramGaunt]

There's at least 42 more British ones on order, we just haven't got them yet, or if we have they're not ready to go on the carrier for whatever reason

[@jasonbell9712]

@@1IbramGaunt true. I know we have more on order. We should wait till we have them before going on a large deployment like this. However, the QE will only carry 36 fighters in which 24 will only be British. I just don't think the carrier operation have been planned well anough. To say we're in the global stage, it just isn't true.

[@steven2809]

Jason Bell. Yes but you’re ignoring the capabilities and advanced technology of the carrier itself! Plus it cost a bloody fortune!

[@EyedBlueCrow]

Broader. Broadly.

[@puffin51]

Like everyone else, I wish them well. But wishes don't change facts. QE has 18 F-35B's, eight of them USMC. Three or four of them are unavailable or unserviceable at any one time. This is fewer strike aircraft than any RN carrier since HMS Argus in 1922. Only 48 were ordered for both carriers, and it's taken three and a half years to get this many. At this rate, they'll never have a full complement - they'll have to retire aircraft as fast as new ones arrive. The F-35B has a combat radius of 833 km. WW2 Zero fighters had twice that. So do SU-35s and their Chinese counterparts. It takes hours to prepare for any mission, so it can't be scrambled to defend the carrier. Its average sortie rate is .4 a day, over weeks. In a few years, the ships can quietly go back to the dockyard for refit with CATOBAR, and a real naval strike/fighter obtained. Please God they don't go into harm's way before that. Until then, this is a disaster waiting to happen.

[@kalle911]

supposedly when entering a conflict zone they don't have any CAPs in the air at all times...

[@puffin51]

​@@kalle911 The F-35B on all deployments so far has returned a sustained ground to air time of about 16:1. This, plus a sortie rate of about .4 per day, is what emerged from the Cyprus deployment and the naval exercises so far. That would imply that the maximum aircraft they could have up constantly is two.

[@museumjunkie9317]

I'm sorry but I just can get to liking the f-35. I just don't like it. I've tried but to no avail. I think in the long run it's going to be a lemon. A very expensive Lemon. I believe that the upkeep and maintenance on the jet will cost prohibitive and I think after a relatively short amount of time countries will see that it has been a great big boondoggle.

[@helainewilliams8253]

With every software upgrade it's going to be streets ahead of anything else out there!

[@ThatCarGuy]

Expensive? Lemon? The F35a cost less then 80 million which is cheaper then 4th gen fighters like the Su35, Eurofighter, etc... The f35 can track ballistic missiles, has a DAS that has 360 degree awareness using multiple cameras and can see through the jet and see ground targets in real time on the HUD... It can do pedal turns with smart munitions and is why they keep trying to replace the A-10 with it. It also has the strongest fighter engine ever built. Is the F35 perfect? No. Is as any aircraft perfect? No. Look at the F22 it doesn't even have infrared search and track sensors... Look at the Su35, it uses a 1950s tech PESA radar, etc. I can go on and on, no aircraft is perfect. But the F35 for it's price and what it can do is hard to beat.

[@davidhouseman4328]

I think countries running the F35B will see it as a unique asset regardless of cost. The UK might be able to convert QE but other can't.

[@museumjunkie9317]

@@ThatCarGuy Hey, You may be right I don't know. Remember this conversation in lets say 15 years from know after we see it all pans out.

[@Akm72]

It's the most capable strike fighter the UK has ever operated even if we ignore the stealth. It might be expensive, but so is every other modern fighter and F-35B does not appear to be significantly more expensive than Rafale, Eurofighter or Super Hornet.

[@RoboticPope]

What was all that nonsense about diversity? We need the opposite, to work well together towards our common goals and values.

[@MetaView7]

what are your common goals and values? to sell more opium?

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@MetaView7 still bringing up that old chestnut huh

[@azratqurbanmansoorbakhtark1918]

حزب وحدت استاد محقق با تبلیغات گسترده و مسموم کردن من ادعا دارد دیوانه هستم و اختیار مال خود را ندارم: جنگ لفظی شدید بین دست اندرکاران جشن دمبوره بند امیر و شیخ های شیعه پستکانی داشتند و هر کدام یک دیگر را سر کوب لفظی کرده اند و در متن یادی از من شده لازم دیدم نظر خود را نوشته کنم. تا جایی که من راجع به ملاهای شیعه معلومات دارم و تحقیق کرده ام مرغان پرورش یافته مرغ داریهای حوزه علمیه ایران و شاخه های ان هستند. حالا این مرغ داریها را کی طراحی کرده و دانه ها را کی تولید کرده و چی نوع مواد سمی و زهری و شیمیایی مورد علاقه خود را تولید و به خورد انان داده است خدا دقیق تر میداند. کار کفار است و بخاطر بذر نفاق و کینه و عداوت را بین اسلام بپاشاند این مرغ داریها پایه گذاری شده است؟ کسی که کون دادن خود را انکار می کند چگونه ادعای واهی وی راجع به ۱۴۰۰ سال پیش واقعیت دارد؟ این ملاها گمراهانی هستند که گمراه تربیت شده اند. فقط با نام مربوطین به مذاهب دم و دستگاه و تجارت خانه ها جور کرده اند و به ارث می برند و به ارث می گذارند و جنایاتی این ملاهای شیعه انجام می دهند هیچ بنی بشری انجام نداده است. اکثر ملاهای شیعه واجب القتل هستند. زیرا اینها مال مردم سرقت و با زور و نیرنگ و فریب تصاحب می کنند و حتی شوهران زنان خوشکل و زیبا را بخاطر تعدی و تجاوز بر دوشیزه مقبول به قتل رسانده اند و هزاران نوع جنایت دیگر. اما دختران اواز خوان جرمشان سر خود لخت کردن و خواندن است. جرم این فرهنگیان ساده و جزای ان هم اسان است. اما تمام این حرامزاده گیها بخاطر سرقت گنج های من است. پول زمینم از سال گذشته تا کنون توسط مقامات حکومت رسمی غنی در بلخاب مسدود و اسناد تحصیلی من هم در مشهد توسط عوامل سپاه و بسیج همراه زن و بچه و دیگر وسایل کامل زندگی و خانه حتی تمام کالای من هم سرقت شد و نه راه کار مانده و نه راه زندگی و از تمام بخش ها خواهشمندم زندگی و جان و مال افراد استاد محقق در سراسر دنیا هدف نابودی قرار گیرد.

[@kodiak64]

Russia sending attack subs to the Irish Sea, getting more boisterous with its naval presence near the UK, so what does the RN do? Send a carrier group to far side of the world.

[@philellis9465]

We only need Lynx Wildcats to sort them boats out. Two flew over my house today real low from the Irish Sea.

[@G1NZOU]

It's not "just" going to the far side of the world, it's joining NATO training ops of the French coast with both the US and France, visiting Gibraltar, taking part in another exercise with the French aircraft Carrier Charles de Gaulle, then for a short time assisting the fight against ISIL with its aircraft, transitioning to the Indian Ocean to do some training exercises with the Indian Navy, visit Singapore, then perform a freedom of navigation cruise through the South China Sea, to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Five Power Defence Arrangements the group will take part in Exercise Bersama Lima 21 with the Royal Australian Navy, Royal New Zealand Navy, Royal Malaysian Navy and Republic of Singapore Navy, then visit South Korea, and then visit Japan and take part in exercises with the Japan Self Defence Force and the US Navy around the islands of Japan.

[@None-zc5vg]

The U.S. needs to embroil its U.K. puppet in the coming conflict with China.

[@kodiak64]

@@None-zc5vg Yawn.

[@illest28s32]

So in other words you need atleast 5 countrys to beat 🇨🇳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and Russia what a fall off

[@1IbramGaunt]

America alone can beat you with one hand tied behind their backs, we're just showing America and our other allies that they're NOT alone though

[@illest28s32]

@@1IbramGaunt beat who lol 😆when? allies?

[@greatasia606]

Colonialism refuses to fade into the history.

[@kooyansen3933]

u r allow to pass through scs it's free but not pass near coastal China..every one is allowed to pass scs.. .all is about propaganda. not more not less