I have one arriving tomorrow (5/16/24) and I can't wait !!!!
@juanreyes79924 ай бұрын
Congrats!
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch782 жыл бұрын
My problem with watches is I want all of them.
@fungus702 жыл бұрын
Me too !
@arijit369 Жыл бұрын
Matt i second you .. cheers
@realwarriorscholar Жыл бұрын
Collect them all - right?!
@robalexander7348 Жыл бұрын
Yes i Agree, i have just ordered this 317 beauty this morning 👍
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 Жыл бұрын
@@robalexander7348 hope it's aligned properly. Let me know how you like it. I'm so tempted but I'm kinda on a Seiko diver kick since I bought an SBDC 051 a few months back.
@d3xmeister2 жыл бұрын
The 6105 Slim was Seiko’s first main stream diver. They only did the 62MAS before which wasn’t really mainstream. After the slim 6105 they came out with the larger 6105 brother, then it was the 6309, 6309 Slim, 7548 quartz, 7002 and 7S26 (SKX) to the modern era.
@timelesssneakersandwatches2 жыл бұрын
Love these! Just ordered the white dial variant. Super stoked to get it in hand. Great review!
@robalexander7348 Жыл бұрын
Yes i Agree, i have just ordered the Black dial 317 this morning 👍
@minionofgozer741421 күн бұрын
Ive sold all my watches, bought this Seiko Reissue and now it's my one and only daily wear 🤷♂️ it might be something I pass down to my grandkids as well.
@iBeTonyy2 жыл бұрын
Stuck between the SPB317 and SPB143. Leaning more towards the SPB143 as it more "versatile" . Either way think I'll be happy with either or. Thanks for the video!
@azhanz2 жыл бұрын
Buy both my friend 👍🏻
@daveLin10411 ай бұрын
What did you get in the end ?
@brodybawden35442 жыл бұрын
Ppl love to hate on seiko for the slight price increase and all that. And I agree I would love for these new releases to be around the 400 to 600 range but, have these in hand you can see and feel the quality difference. And I will take seiko with all the faults over any micro brand. You don't get any history and heritage with micro brands. Plus all my seikos are complete tanks. They hold up against real life wearing.
@mediastarguest2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say people "love to hate on Seiko" for the slight price increases. But most consumers hate to end up paying hundreds and even thousands of dollars or euros for an expensive watch from a prestigious manufacturer like Seiko which cannot even be bothered to ensure the bezel aligns correctly with the chapter ring marker - it's a massive bummer - which common across the entire Seiko range but unheard of in companies such as Citizen, Hamilton or Certina which offer similar types of watches at similar or cheaper price points.
@ThePlaiibox2 жыл бұрын
@@mediastarguest exactly my friend. Why do Seiko always seem to get a pass on shoddy QC? It's not as if they can't afford to fix the manufacturing process to ensure better products leave the line. Afterall, Japan was built on solid engineering and high standards in manufacturing, so why not Seiko?
@HRM.H2 жыл бұрын
it's not the price , its the lack of QC and after sales service. Ive bought multiple Prospex models brand new , straight from Seiko , yet they all came with either a chapter ring misalignment or some other QC issue. Have never been able to get any of these fixed through Seiko either , because all they say is " it's within our spec "... 😂
@brodybawden35442 жыл бұрын
@@HRM.H I agree with all of your points. I was just talking about the price increase across the lineup. I'm well aware of the qc issues and how its frustrating from what is a fantastic brand. That being said I consider myself lucky. I own 9 different seiko's. 5 of them are prospex divers. They have been purchased through AD, and grey markets aka Amazon lol... and all of them have perfect bezel alignment. Friends of mine were not so lucky though.
@brodybawden35442 жыл бұрын
@@polygoncoco what a terrible situation your in with your spb143. What an awesome watch to own and not have. As for the 6r35 I only have the spb101 sumo. It's a new purchase and so far is running great 🤞🏼 it's roughly 4 seconds slow a day. I'd prefer fast rather than slow but 4 seconds a day I'm happy. Hopefully it holds up to daily use as I am pretty rough on my watches. Also once again I consider myself lucky that I bought this sumo new unseen and it showed up with perfect Alignment and no defects that I have found. Also crazy clean dial. Not a spec of dust on it. I'll just count my blessings.
@d3xmeister2 жыл бұрын
Seiko is beating everybody by a large margin. Just look at their entire line-up, no other brand even comes close.
@marcusstoner16412 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I feel Seiko are releasing too many watches that are very similar to each other. Personally I think Longines are leading the pack at the moment with their releases such as the spirit, ultra chron, Zulu. For the price the Seiko 6r35 is poor apart from the power reserve. I also think the current 39mm Longines hydro conquest is far superior watch. Especially the ceramic but that is a bit more pricey than the Seiko here.
@d3xmeister2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusstoner1641 Not a fan of the ETA 2824 classic or powermatic, I actually think the 6R and 4R are better movements. Longines releases does look awesome, the mid-range swiss brands are kind of dull, Longines is one of the exceptions for sure. As for so many variations, personally I’m not really into it I’d prefer a more defined and refined line, but for most people maybe such diversity is a good thing.
@jeremaester12992 жыл бұрын
Running an automatic prospex diver on nato is finally viable!
@nick-just2 жыл бұрын
The review I’ve been waiting for - thank you! Look forward to the follow up vids
@jayjay99322 жыл бұрын
I like it. This configuration is long overdue.
@RayMelville Жыл бұрын
Very handsome watch and excellent review. Looking forward to the straps options video. Thanks
@wescobts2 жыл бұрын
Love this watch.
@khronokraze2 жыл бұрын
I really like these. I was so close to getting the white dial version. I actually ended up going to a sort of oldie instead. Always had my eye on one of the early first 2 Willard reissues in 42.7mm, the green version always stood out to me and eventually caved into getting it very recently. Really nice military kind of green which seems appropriate given the context in which the vintage models are most associated for. And, happily, the bezel lines up! Yes, it's genuine Seiko. I think they've been possibly hoping their QC game most recently. Idk.. maybe... But, I feel I haven't heard of any alignment issues in these nor the new GMTs from any reviewers so far that have gotten them. The newer rubber strap quality they include are good quality. I am aslo not a big fan of the texturing. It's alright, but could prefer something else. I think they should either do the old chocolate bar style or the one with the small pyramids.. are those considered waffle style? I also prefer the coin edge grip around the bezel as you get on this and other higher level Prospex models around this price point. I also don't mind the 4:30 date window. Good they make it upright .. kind of like the SBEC005, instead of tilted like it was a standard date window would be at the position. Keeps dial symmetry in low light. And, it's so subtle and drops to the background, especially when the indexes stand out more. . As such, the dial symmetry in daytime is also pretty much maintained as well. It really depends on the dial and date disk color for whether a 3 or 4:30 date position is better. If it's something they can't color match, then it may be more jarring. Same with a date at 3.. if it can be made in same color and general size/shape of the index marker on the opposing side of the dial it will work better if it can't.
@stephenswindle38392 жыл бұрын
They call it the slim turtle for a reason and as you can see it is a slim turtle!!!!🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢
@welcomewrist2 жыл бұрын
This watch is so nice! love the overall shape and composition.
@robalexander7348 Жыл бұрын
I have just recieved my SPB 317 via courier this morning, and i must say your video quality is exactly what this watch is, its looks so good in person, i'm now waiting for my Crown & Buckle Matte Supreme Black & Slate single layer wrist strap to arrive 👍😃
@AverageBros Жыл бұрын
Awesome Rob, thanks for sharing!
@robalexander7348 Жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros Thank you, it's on my wrist now admiring it, your videos are of excellent quality,so clear and sharp. 👍
@mariog72132 жыл бұрын
Finally a decent review on this one. Thanks bro
@markparsons9879 Жыл бұрын
Great video, probably the best review of this one that I’ve seen
@AverageBros Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks so much for that feedback, I really appreciate it!
@Bonatno11 ай бұрын
It’s going to be my next seiko.
@asa9593 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful timepiece
@fungus702 жыл бұрын
At first I thought it's just too expensive and rather uninteresting. A friend asked me to buy the white dial version for him and after wearing it, I kinda understand why Seiko is charging so much for this. It's growing on me and it's definitely a nicely made piece.
@matthewtunnicliffe2012 жыл бұрын
I really like the look of these. I'm not really a Nato strap kind of guy but the thinness of these models would certainly tempt me to give one a go.
@tcapd9 ай бұрын
Thank you, great review!
@jefe.amo32 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I never knew the Turtle nickname is from the 6 o’clock view. So cute. But I always thought the name came from the case shape. This Retro Slim Turtle doesn’t feel like a modern Turtle, King Turtle or Mini Turtle. Missing are the original turtle’s arrow minute hand and trapezoid (toilet brush haha) meridian markers. Maybe call it Slim Willard?
@djomanchester2 жыл бұрын
Nice size. Like the extra hard coating. Brushed sides. So very tempted!
@miliusrex112 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Turtle evolution video.
@georgecupac12022 жыл бұрын
Australia. I like that it's got lume all around. I'd like to see lume at the 3 o'Clock on all new Seiko turtles.
@Chef_Alpo2 жыл бұрын
I sold my slim 6105 years ago and have been waiting for this ever since Seiko started remaking their classic divers. I am a bit dissapointed with the dial, the SEIKO would have been better as an applied/raised logo rather than printed like the original, that's in no way a deal breaker, but the prospex X really seems out of place on this one! I've passed this over as a next purchase as a near new Doxa 600t has been offered to me for less... I'll be keeping this Seiko in mind though, the original slim 6105 was one of my favorite divers and I wouldn't have sold it if it didn't have an aftermarket dial.
@frownland_archive Жыл бұрын
Thanky you for the video. I got this watch around a week ago and put it on Uncle Seiko Waffle strap. Super nice
@AverageBros Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the pick up!
@pggsrr2 жыл бұрын
Very good-looking watch! Thanks for the video! If it had a more consistent movement it‘d be a no-brainer for me. But now I‘m struggling with myself. I don‘t mind the unsigned crown. I even prefer unsigned crowns, as I find the common habit of overbranding (dial, caseback, crown, sometimes chapter ring and/or even case side) slightly ridiculous.
@ThePlaiibox2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I've got the 62 mas style and it runs cosc. Then I bought a green willard and it was a dog! +56 secs a day. The movement even failed and had to go back to seiko - 2 weeks after purchasing!! They returned it and it ran well for a few days then started gaining time like a badass again so I flipped it. So hit and miss with this gen of 6R movement. I've had better luck with the 4R.
@amgame94892 жыл бұрын
with the 6r, ill pass. put a 4r36 in this case, ill buy for sure. my king turtle is way cheaper and pretty darn accurate.
@Crisnav83 Жыл бұрын
Already have a king turtle and love it. Itching for another cushion case watch but can't decide between this or the Willard ....Anyone else in this predicament?
@GregMilner2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the thinnist MECHANICAL. I have an SNE573 (solar quartz) that is 10.6mm. But I WANT this SPB317. Great review. Thanks.
@running-nurse2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review
@canadianwatchmonkey39922 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of added protection with the coating but the only problem is that if you want to polish out a scratch or flea bite it is not possible without destroying the rest of the coating
@LaFritePerreGoat2 жыл бұрын
Want see it next to a willard and an skx definitely
@Billeh5562 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this 317. I don’t get the whining about date placement, in person especially you do not even notice it unless you look directly at it. You should have showcased it with that waffle rubber as it suits it way more imo as well as keeps the slimness of the case.
@alvaromateosfernandez-maqu57722 жыл бұрын
The size of the date an then the placement, what a miss. It would be a perfect watch✨✨
@marioochoa4298 Жыл бұрын
wish it came on a bracelet
@Vox-Populi4 ай бұрын
Thank goodness they recessed that annoying wave. Who wants a penny glued to the back of their watch?
@graciousideals1509 Жыл бұрын
They took something so vintage like a cushion case and made it look so sleek and modern! The 70 hour power reserve is a useful, real life feature. So tempting but I'll stick with the original Turtles.
@running-nurse2 жыл бұрын
Getting this model and selling the good ole SRP777/9
@mohnnadmercedes82463 ай бұрын
You need to include bezel + crystal sizes please because these measurements are crucial for how its gonna wear
@limacuan2 жыл бұрын
Since you have both, mind if you could try out the spb143 bracelet on this to see if it fits? I really like the black but it only comes with the silicone @_@
@GabrielTan19802 жыл бұрын
Put the order for the SPB317 halfway during watching this review
@HHIto2 жыл бұрын
IMHO closest to a daily watch, thin ≅12mm thick. I'm retired now, my COSCs are stored. My first Seiko a gift in 1965, didn't buy one until SPB153, 239. Good enough. The 313 is slightly too bland... I'm hoping for some color (next year?), then I might get one.
@jimon-2 жыл бұрын
How does the dial color compare to the SPB151? I know they’re both black dial divers, but the SPB151’s dial seems more dark grey in person and on videos than on the Seiko product photos.
@67NewEngland2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know of an aftermarket oyster bracelet available for these yet ??
@kanggorengan77542 жыл бұрын
Which u prefer white dial or black dial?
@chi10572 жыл бұрын
Like the watch but wouldn't swap for my SPB147J1. Funny that you enjoy the relative thinness of the watch, then add the thickness of a nato 🤣😂 The watch is hovering over your wrist, not how I would wear it.
@redentorroque2622 жыл бұрын
Do you still have your Mini Turtle? Does this wear similar to the MT? And would you get rid of your MT and raise more funds to get this one?
@santiagovaldez6911 Жыл бұрын
Hello guys, one question, how about the precision of the movement?
@AverageBros Жыл бұрын
They're unregulated, so my performance isn't guaranteed but this one is running around +3spd for me
@gtrfreak2 ай бұрын
Only $900 for a $400 watch what a steal
@JB-qt8eh2 жыл бұрын
Preordered the Citizen Challenge diver for $481. I like the seiko design but hate the movement.
@AverageBros2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I plan to pickup the blue one on bracelet. As for hating the 6R35, pretty strong sentiment, I like them, the 70hr power reserve comes in handy.
@RedwoodAggie2 жыл бұрын
I am curious, what is the actual diameter of the dial, minus the bezel between the SPB143 and the SPB317?
@ThePurple1968 Жыл бұрын
the five link bracelet is one of the most cool features of this watch
@jeronsewell3694 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for my SPB317 to return, after being sent off to be regulated. After a month of everyday wear, the 6R35 movement was averaging -30 seconds per day slow. WTF Seiko?
@azizulzulzaha Жыл бұрын
I want that medallion to be pure gold and removable, can it be done?
@MyZippy13 Жыл бұрын
Got both and wear them more than my Sub no date. My 143 is on a nato as I dislike the bracelet.
@daveLin104 Жыл бұрын
Do you still have the 143 and 317 do you have preference?
@jmac5755 Жыл бұрын
What is the weight of the watch compared to the turtle?
@juniorjohnson5961 Жыл бұрын
Could you recommend a Seiko that's similar but less expensive ? Don't have that much to spend .
@AverageBros Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hl7OhmqCrLWfedE
@maarteneh2 жыл бұрын
Please no! A watch is just a watch. It's not a boy and certainly not a bad one.
@AverageBros2 жыл бұрын
Figure of speech...
@christopherfinch163 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Sorry if I missed this, is it a screw-down crown? Thanks.
@AverageBros Жыл бұрын
Correct, it does have a screw-down crown
@captainfatbat9557 Жыл бұрын
That's the reason I hate single nato straps. This would look much better on a two part nato
@robertbelliottjr5773 Жыл бұрын
20mm lugs. Not 22mm.
@AverageBros Жыл бұрын
I put 20mm in the graphic, did I say 22mm in the video?
@robertbelliottjr5773 Жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros thought I heard you say 20mm during the review which was excellent by the way. I own this watch and I love it. Keep up the great work.
@m.e.p.r Жыл бұрын
The bezel looks misaligned
@ccw5886 Жыл бұрын
I love everything about this piece but I have one consistent gripe. Time keeping! Its rubbish. I live in the UK and paid £750. This watch should be no more than +- 10. Mine was -35 out of the box and just got worse the longer I wore it. It had to be sent back to Seiko and has now returned and is now at about+8, which is ok. lets remember, you can buy a Swiss watch that will be +2-5 out of the box. for the same money. My watch is fabulous but that movement is dodgy. My 4r36 movements fair much better and are obviously much cheaper.. Seiko need to get a grip
@daveLin10411 ай бұрын
Do you still like the watch how is accuracy now ?
@Tom_H3272 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 900 is a bit steep and a sizable gamble as far as QC is concerned. Hard Pass.
@gustomundo2 жыл бұрын
Looks a little too much like a 777 but double price...
@MrRalphRosa2 жыл бұрын
Seiko got too expensive they used to be called the poor mans Rolex . No more there are so many great micro brands now that deliver more bang for your buck .