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@philiplauzon1743 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why everyone is bashing the price. It compares to a Tudor Black Bay in specs and wearability for 1/3 of the price. I think it’s a steal, it depends what you compare it to
@mitondo6123 Жыл бұрын
...and I can't even wear a Tudor BB because of it's longer lug-to-lug measurement, as I have small wrists. :)
@gmshadowtraders Жыл бұрын
Because these Seiko fanboys are the cheapest bastards on the earth. I don't know why the company continues releasing watches to satisfy these silly bastards.
@philiplauzon1743 Жыл бұрын
@@gmshadowtraders 😂
@fungus70 Жыл бұрын
I also thought it's just too expensive and rather plain but after wearing my friend's piece for a few days, I got to appreciate how well made and special this really is.
@tired_noticer88 Жыл бұрын
An original willard goes for a 1000$ Rather get one of those tbh
@TheMonsterHunterTV Жыл бұрын
@@tired_noticer88 it's most likely a franken-watch so i would suggest to buy this one
@burperking2788 Жыл бұрын
same here!
@jeffd3802 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ppadilla8990 Жыл бұрын
for that price you are getting into oris territory and an unregulated 6r35 is a bad deal at best
@theleastsignificantbit4794 Жыл бұрын
Is it pricey? YES. But the size and design are absolutely killer. I love its aesthetic. It’s taken function to an art.
@runningawayvagabond5876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload! This WILL be my next watch. My current daily driver is a SRPD55 that I put on an Uncle Seiko waffle and just love the thing. If I could wave a magic wand and change anything it would be make it just a teeny bit shorter in height and have an all brushed case. Seiko answered and released this SPB317 - classic colourway, classic aluminum bezzle, all brushed case and just a teeny bit shorter than the SRPD. Absolutely timeless design. There's just no need to get all fancy and ruin the formula with gimmicks, I mean complications. You can't go wrong with understated. It never goes out of style.
@JP-rd9bt Жыл бұрын
The white dial SPB313 is really special and looks fantastic! Great size and so wearable.
@jeffd3802 Жыл бұрын
Got mine 2 days ago for a little over 700.00 from Arizona fine timepieces. 1st purchase from them and it was awesome. Sent an offer they approved and I asked if they could pick the one out with best alignment. The replied saying no problem at all. Love this piece on my 7.5 inch wrist. Immediately put it on strapcode waffle.
@RandomRobReviews Жыл бұрын
AZ fine time great for that. I have bought one watch from them
@danzigrulze5211 Жыл бұрын
For me this was the perfect dive watch, I was looking at the Willard reissue and the King Turtle, then I found this one and it had everything I wanted in my first automatic Seiko. Plus I prefer rubber straps, they just work, and it's the main reason why I wear my Arnie so much.
@mitondo6123 Жыл бұрын
It's not cheap, but I guess Seiko knows the nostalgia it brings. So Seiko knew how people like me would pull the trigger on this. I was willing to pay premium for the emotional factor that it brings. And for the size, too. I just have a 6.25-in wrist, and couldn't have enjoyed anything bigger than this watch. Even the Land Turtle felt big. But this one, oh boy, feels perfect and comfortable on my wrist. So I also have to thank Seiko for coming out with something that's accessible to persons with small wrists. For all that, I paid a premium. Can't say I'm disappointed.
@TillSwims Жыл бұрын
The Land Turtle's have a smaller lug-to-lug size btw
@mitondo6123 Жыл бұрын
@@TillSwims This is true, although the Land Turtle has a larger diameter at 42.4mm compared to the 41mm of the Slim Turtle. I tried both, and the Land Turtle seemed to wear a bit larger. So I guess, it really depends on how it wears on the person. Nothing beats trying them on before pulling the trigger. Cheers!
@H0kram Жыл бұрын
Seiko has foreseen the hyperflation and started it before it was cool. Now the rest of the world is keeping up with Seiko and their prices will eventually look normal. Genius move.
@AndreAndre-yd5gw Жыл бұрын
The term you are looking for is hyperinflation and no we are not there yet for a while. Seiko believes by raising prices to luxury level they can enter the luxury market while chinese homage manufacturers turn out the same models for seiko prices of years past.
@mightbesherwood1313 Жыл бұрын
A really tough sell. Even if it's made in Japan, the Japanese yen is way down this year, versus the dollar, so the price doesn't make sense. This is a chunk of steel, regular movement (6r-whatever) and 200m - a $250 watch from five years ago.
@NathanChisholm041 Жыл бұрын
@@nightstalker824 I bought a $240aud Seiko chrono the other week and it had sapphire. Its almost as if they get a dart board to decide which gets sapphire...
@HarryUnchained Жыл бұрын
lmao, it's not a regular movement and depth rating of the watch doesn't dictate the price.
@edteach3r Жыл бұрын
Bingo! Lose that darn unsettling timegrapher and wear your Seiko. When fully wound, they run remarkably accurately (mine within a second per day on the wrist). Cheers, Rob!
@Glasseh Жыл бұрын
I have the SPB237 with the 6R35. And I couldn't be happier with the accuracy I get out of the caliber.
@drwindsurf Жыл бұрын
I love the look of this watch - The hands are perfect and I love the size. But I agree the price is too high for me but once there are discounts I would be interested
@gg.komorebi Жыл бұрын
try it. 20% is possible
@robertbelliottjr5773 Жыл бұрын
Another great review by Random Rob. Very informative. Answered all of my questions regarding this watch. Actually after listening to this review I’m going to pull the trigger on the SPB317. Thank you again Rob.
@crialeshomes10 ай бұрын
Coincidentally, Nick helped me purchase a Grand Seiko Spring Drive last week. He gave me a great deal. It was pre-owned but it looked brand new. Regarding this watch, I think it’s worth the price. I like the Turtle, but the indices look cheap and I’m over bigger watches. This watch looks more refined than the Turtle, so for me, it’s worth the price. A Rolex is double the price of a Tutor, but not really twice the watch. I know they’re minor differences, but it makes a world of difference.
@pauljdunne784 Жыл бұрын
I have the new 8000 gilt , i love it, the new style braclett is really nice and very comfortable. only down side is only two micro ajustments available.6r35 movement seems to be very accurate for me on wrist, a bit indifferent on bed side locker. All brushed case and braclett looks really killer. and you'll also notice the new short clasp , more braclett showing. I would like to thank you for all the work you put in to your channel , Long time subscriber , and Hi from Ireland.
@SmurfPerfect Жыл бұрын
600 would be a fair cost
@marvean2519 Жыл бұрын
I’ve honestly had no issues with the 6R35, my alpinist runs -3seconds per day. Maybe I got lucky. Beautiful diver by the way! 😊
@Mackster248 Жыл бұрын
I have the Willard in this same color and same movement. So far it's running +2 seconds a day. Haven't been able to put this watch down since I got it.
@robcameron9351 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love that piece
@speedwolf5212 Жыл бұрын
This is about as perfect as a non-8L Seiko diver gets. I’m more than happy to pay the asking price. The fact that it hasn’t caught fire is frankly mind boggling. I guess these days Seiko “fans” need an influencer to validate a Seiko diver first before they can get excited about it 🙄
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
Most people are to sane to pay 900 bucks for an off the shelf middle of the run Seiko. No offense. But when you ask that kind of money with all the competing brands out there (many of them use a selitta sw200 eta2824 clone, which is arguably better than this one), Seiko has a hard time to justify their price. At least for their prospex line with a basically unregulated movement and the bezel not aligned perfectly. There are so many divers at that size out there and for all kinds of prices. Lower, higher whatever. Seiko seems to be trying to figure out how much they can demand.
@danspanos Жыл бұрын
I think the white faced version on the bracelet has your name all over it, Rob!
@graciousideals1509 Жыл бұрын
Such a sleek Seiko diver. I like the power reserve. My only gripe is the traffic light second hand. Had it been anything else, I most likely would have bought it. Just like you, I have a Turtle and I'll be sticking with that for now.
@dopagony9946 Жыл бұрын
really? thats one of my favorite features of the watch....
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
Thumbs down on the power reserve. The watch runs at 3Hz, that's the only reason why the power reserve is longer. And it's an automatic. if 40-50 hours isnt enough, is 80? doesnt make much sense to me.
@tenshin2002 Жыл бұрын
If it had Tudor, Doxa or any other entry level luxury on the dial you wouldnt think twice in paying 900 USD. And you wouldnt think it doesnt live up to those expectations.
@jakevas Жыл бұрын
And that's the point.
@flow2tech Жыл бұрын
@tenshin2002 💯 dude..I have no issue paying asking for this piece..Getting one soon
@maxp5422 Жыл бұрын
Preach
@ak2112 Жыл бұрын
Cool man, show me the Tudor that was $400 like 2 years ago to really make this comparison make any sense.
@juniorjohnson5961 Жыл бұрын
But it does say Seiko & $900 is a bit pricey
@gg.komorebi Жыл бұрын
i agree with you rob. i wore the watch day and night for a week. i measured the rate deviation every day and it averaged +7 seconds. the highest rate deviation was +12 sec/24h and the lowest rate deviation was +4 sec/24h
@danlaclair01 Жыл бұрын
I always had issues with Seiko movements running poorly. My Sarb, SKX, and 5 series. I bought the SNE573 and love it. The solar quartz is accurate and has all the things Seiko I love. I had no issue with Seiko because they're affordable watches. But moving up on prices they need better movements IMO.
@clontstable1 Жыл бұрын
You’re a aversion to the 4 o’clock crown is like my aversion to cilantro… simply a matter of taste.
@flyinghigh1997 Жыл бұрын
I was wearing it for a week straight... +1 sec after 5 days!
@DeusNyx Жыл бұрын
400....that's it, that's all I'd pay for it.
@earlbee3196 Жыл бұрын
I’d pay 450, but that would be really it.
@theannouncer5538 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m thinking, most Seiko divers strike me as $400-$500 watches. Their quality control is far too sporadic to pay more
@deadpool834010 ай бұрын
Well your defo not getting one then
@DeusNyx10 ай бұрын
@@theannouncer5538 Amen
@iain7728 ай бұрын
For that same amount I could genuinely build it myself using premium parts and likely have money left over. The main difference is that seiko could pressure test it but thats it. It's seriously depressing when a brand like seiko who are known for providing good quality for a great price slowly increasing them whilst not increasing quality
@jeroennishikigoi1164 Жыл бұрын
I love the smal date!
@dustdry Жыл бұрын
Got this for around 600usd recently, runs a bit fast +5s/day , doesn't feel it'll look good on my 16cm wrist but well i am ok with it after wearing it. Nice and good watch but nothing to shout about except that I'm a fan of that 'hidden' date and the slim profile
@daleclark3138 Жыл бұрын
Typical of recent Seikos with a large price increase with little to justify it. A King Turtle for half that is the only newer release release in line with price. Interesting case on this.
@caomhan84 Жыл бұрын
I love this one. But I'm going to hold off on getting it because I know that Seiko is going to release a metric ton of variants, and there will be a colorway I enjoy way more than the ones currently out. And the sizing makes it better for my small wrist than the new titanium Citizen Challenge Diver reissue. I can wear a 47mm lug to lug watch much more easily than a 48.5, titanium aside. I don't like the price either, but it'll be $700 by next summer I'm sure.
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
agreed, just black and white options is lackluster. Add the standard around 40mm size with a mediocre movement and you wonder why you should pay 900 bucks for this seiko opposed to a gazillion microbrands that have better movements (Sellita Eta clones) and are 2/3 the price, e.g. MAEN or again, thousands of others.
@caomhan84 Жыл бұрын
@@maxmeier532 Well, I don't like microbrands, personally. Unless it's a really unique design, or a revived design from the past that no one else is making. They're all clones of each other and after 20 years of watch collecting, for a micro brand to entice me, it's going to have to offer me something. I don't chase specs, so I don't care about any of that.
@imarioiv Жыл бұрын
Love my 313, only complaint is that I got a 6R35 that runs slow. Quick adjustment fixed the issue, but other than that solid!
@MeestroDavid Жыл бұрын
Tried this on, with bracelet, and love it.
@dopagony9946 Жыл бұрын
this is my favorite Seiko. Superior to the overhyped SBDC101.
@ccw5886 Жыл бұрын
Its worth $900 because in ten years time it will still be worth $700 or more. Buy an everyday better spec watch that isn't a Seiko it will be worth nothing. Seiko bracelets are just awful to me. (except the chintzy rattly SKX 007 jubilee). I will wait for Uncle Seiko to come up with a decent replacement. My Seiko 317 is the only Seiko I will ever own now. But hey, we all need to have one Seiko in the collection and this piece wears fantastic
@twstrchasr8 ай бұрын
Slim Willard. I'm about to pull the trigger on the white dial version.
@calebkleinhans3668 Жыл бұрын
Honestly might have got this instead of my Willard… I prefer the flat sides and the slimmer thickness. At this point though I just couldn’t trade my Willard in for anything as the attachment has just became too personally significant to me.
@samuelkim2611 Жыл бұрын
This is gorgeous watch !!! Thanks !!!
@Ferien7 Жыл бұрын
That date window is a total afterthought eyesore
@tcapd8 ай бұрын
Thank you, great review!
@Jason-hv4eu Жыл бұрын
Great review! I thought for sure that your one nitpick was going to be the date position. I am glad that it was done. Exclamation, I like the location of the date and this fact that it’s discrete. I agree that the price is a few hundred dollars too high.
@lukewalker1051 Жыл бұрын
I still prefer the SKX007 chassis to any of the Turtle case variants. Just like you always did Rob in your earlier videos when you were transposing Turtle movements into SKX bodies. I have owned both. There is a reason the SKX achieved icon status and the Turtle as popular as it was and I have owned a couple, never measured up to the SKX. The new model you show maybe preferable to the standard Turtle but would have to spend time with it but aesthetically, the SKX is a special watch. My vote.
@mathieulandry2181 Жыл бұрын
I have an SKX007 and while all these recent releases from Seiko are fabulous, I still smile when I look at the SKX and I have a hard time deciding if I should “upgrade” or not…
@khronokraze Жыл бұрын
I know I want to support US based retailers, but if you want these new for a decent amount under $900, go through Sakura. I believe they sell the bracelet versions for around $760. The thing is, you know your Nodus Avalon II is essentially this same watch... And ,I think for even less than $760?.. and, u can be sure it's all aligned and I think regulated as well as the movement they can be... AND, they have their new NodusX adjustable clasp!
@mybears1837 Жыл бұрын
I have spb335 night vision blacked out one. Absolute perfection my new daily such a joy to wear.
@jeronsewell3694 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for mine to return, after being sent off to be regulated. After a month of everyday wear, the 6R35 movement was averaging -30 seconds per day slow. WTF Seiko?
@theenavybluemonster Жыл бұрын
No issue with the price. I want the white dial version.
@BAF605 Жыл бұрын
Don't rush in and you will get a discount for sure. Nice watch
@josayeee Жыл бұрын
Love this watch so much. Unfortunately, my movement had low beat and was losing time. Will be sending it back for warranty but not bad considering I got the watch at dealership cost.
@albertsmith9315 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I've been vacillating on whether to buy a sub $400 watch, and this video caught my eye. I kept thinking how all of your points were checking all of my boxes.... until about 5 minutes in. $900 is making that $400 dollar watch look much more doable. Maybe in a few years this Seiko will be selling for a reduced price and I'll snag one.
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
you can get ist used (almost as new) for about 600-700.
@saurus738 Жыл бұрын
That red dot on the second's hand probably from the Japanese flag, looks cool.
@dudN8R Жыл бұрын
Would like to see them put the new solar GMT movement in this case in Green
@SmurfPerfect Жыл бұрын
600 more like it tho
@ind_i_gox Жыл бұрын
Slim turtles are the new trend
@Hard_7_Iron Жыл бұрын
I agree….that movement runs well on wrist. And I love the power reserve. Not a fan of the pricing either. Why is it we can buy chrystal at $45 a watch, but Seiko wants to charge hundreds? To me, this watch should be in the retail range of $750 or so…. Thx Rob.
@abrownff Жыл бұрын
I bought this watch and ordered the bracelet separately. As you might know it’s quite expensive separately but I have a good relationship with my AD and got a great deal on it. Got the watch and bracelet for the same price as one that comes on a bracelet.
@lawrencefleischer1414 Жыл бұрын
Can you provide more info on how you got the bracelet? I'm interested in this version (black dial) but would want it on a bracelet. Thanks.
@abrownff Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencefleischer1414 I ordered the bracelet from my AD where I ordered the watch. I can send you a part number if I can find it.
@lawrencefleischer1414 Жыл бұрын
@@abrownff Thanks!
@abrownff Жыл бұрын
M11V113H0 is the bracelet model number. Retail is $341 but you can get it for a lot less if you do a search.
@lawrencefleischer1414 Жыл бұрын
@@abrownff Thanks!
@georgecupac120211 ай бұрын
I like that Seiko.
@scottt.4596 Жыл бұрын
Soooo. It has been two months. Are you gonna’ keep it?!
@udinsalam4751 Жыл бұрын
Wow, in my country this one is almost 4 times more expensive compared to the Seiko SRPE93K1. My 40+ year eyes won't be able to read the date.
@DrWatch-fq3tf Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more! Its that $900.00 that's the killer.
@bryanthebryan26389 ай бұрын
If they moved the date to 6 o’clock and finally released a decent clasp, I’d consider it for $900.
@WatchAddictionReviews Жыл бұрын
very nice put wont pay $900 for that movement , rather a eta 2824
@scanspeak00 Жыл бұрын
Agree, the price is way too much. I have the tortoise and it's a slim turtle shape with compass at half the price!
@user-iz9co4qf6z Жыл бұрын
Alot of the Seiko divers now have the same design
@billsiviter92722 ай бұрын
I agree it's far too expensive. To me it should be half the price.
@ryanthomas9306 Жыл бұрын
I’ll probably get the black or grenade one day. But I want it with a domed sapphire
@Crimson_6263 ай бұрын
I am debating between this one and the SRPE93 wichi is 400 dollars cheaper. the SPB317 $880 or SRPE93 $400...I can only choose one. any advice guys?
@generalpatton272 Жыл бұрын
Good price to me
@SaSpursFan Жыл бұрын
seiko is all over the board with the lume now :(
@NathanChisholm041 Жыл бұрын
Nice watch but man that pricing is crazy. You wouldn't find me shelling out that sort of cash...
@Fahrenheit1407 Жыл бұрын
Seiko movement's are just not very well temperature compensated. When they heat up on your wrist they run slower than when they're cold and on the timegrapher
@milkham Жыл бұрын
the white dial one is the one that caught my eye, are there any widespread alignment issues on these models?
@jarlandersen7272 Жыл бұрын
Do not understand why you talk about the price on this piece. Compared to the SPB143 and Willard the watch is 95% the same and this is even cheaper!
@gmshadowtraders Жыл бұрын
There's no satisfying some people!
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 Жыл бұрын
I have been wearing my 2018 STO Turtle on a tropic strap to keep me from buying this. The only way this would justify the new price is if the level of finishing is on par with my old SBDC051. If it's not worth the money I have also looked at an homage to this watch by a company called Rdunae which gets good reviews for about $180.
@SeikoLeaks Жыл бұрын
ask for discounts, I went to my AD and asked for a better price on a SPB315J on bracelet and got it for 830USD. could of picked up the SPB317 for $630USD.
@thenexthobby Жыл бұрын
Take the slimmer case of the Land Tortoise, make it slab-sided, and swap out the movement. That's basically this watch in terms of materials. (Although, the rubber strap here is likely worth more than the cheap canvas of the Tortoise.) This one should come down in street price later on, as the Tortoise did. But the price gap will be just big regardless. I can see this one being worth $700 tops, only because of the 6R.
@stark_syndrome7857 Жыл бұрын
I know we like aluminum but if this had a ceramic bezel and came in bracelet, I would feel a little better about that price but this should be in that 600 dollar sweet spot esp on strap
@NathanChisholm041 Жыл бұрын
Aluminium bezels look better more vibrant.
@billmurphy893 Жыл бұрын
The new seikos with the 6r35 just don't have the same lume.
@pizza.doctor Жыл бұрын
I think they're going in the right direction. Problems aligning the chapter ring? No problem, just remove it
@baderyousef4044 Жыл бұрын
💟
@alanmckinnon6791 Жыл бұрын
Single-domed sapphire is cheaper as you only grind one face
@NathanChisholm041 Жыл бұрын
I doubt the cost any different they are mass produced and ground on automated machines mate...
@ryanthomas84 Жыл бұрын
I love the Seiko but not the price! I like the stoplight second hand and really love the automatic sweep! The second hand reminds me of the Willard
@RandallSlick3 ай бұрын
Wow. Another casual brush-off of imperfect QC on a near $1k watch. Seiko hate their overseas buyers. And to think that the originals of these back in the day were high quality and cheap(ish). That's progress. Meanwhile, is that a San Martin.....?
@skynet_cyberdyne_systems Жыл бұрын
Nice watch but as you said price is too high for this watch.
@tomk9237 Жыл бұрын
$650 - $700 max.
@gmshadowtraders Жыл бұрын
Crying over $200, another cheap bastard.
@rezamotori5709 Жыл бұрын
anybody ever seen an X model with a white dial?
@mnibjb8232 Жыл бұрын
What exactly does “slim turtle” mean? This watch doesn’t have a turtle case it’s a generic tonneau……. 🤔
@dennisvillacorte412211 ай бұрын
Just get the standard turtle
@rob5631 Жыл бұрын
you had me until the price....I will not be able to stomach that price. (not saying that it isn't worth it, but just out of my price range for a Seiko)
@manuelmaggioli9077 Жыл бұрын
Slim Turtle????? why??
@zahimiibrahim3602 Жыл бұрын
I dont think there's much advantage to single dome, maybe it's a bit thicker toward the centre of the crystal which might be a very slight advantage. I had a Seiko Shogun with a single dome and I hated the double reflection, one from the domed top and another from the flat inner surface that I ended modding it with a double dome.
@Star_Sn1per Жыл бұрын
They charge you 300$ for the sapphire crystal that is worth 30$ lol
@jeffreyhartman7204 Жыл бұрын
get a samurai or turtle...before they too are $900
@AndreAndre-yd5gw Жыл бұрын
Way too expensive and tends to be sold out. Not worth the asking price when you can get the same from an homage manufacturer and fit it with aftermarket seiko dial for under $250.
@yurymol Жыл бұрын
I don't see a single reason to buy this watch considering its QC considering that microbrands have already gotten much better with that.
@edteach3r Жыл бұрын
Agreed but have been burned by the lack of support from micro brands, so have moved back to looking at Seiko. I have been collecting Seikos since the early 1970s and never have issues getting OEM parts for my watches, even my 1972 Pogue when it needed a major overhaul. Many people forget this advantage of purchasing established name brands.
@Shadowwalker1717 Жыл бұрын
Why so much money when I can get a steeldive. Same design, more quality for the money and absolute workhorse of a movement.
@gmshadowtraders Жыл бұрын
Then stop watching these videos. Go stick to your beloved cheapazz microbrands.
@kerrybayton2954 Жыл бұрын
I love Seiko, this has a great case & beautifull hands, great lume.. But i want a bezel to line up, surely it is not beyond seiko to make a watch with a proper bezel that lines up-if they cannot it's because they are taking us for granted, time to look elsewhere!
@Rickky007Ай бұрын
Inflation is a beach lol the dollar is loosing value .
@donfoley1590 Жыл бұрын
Time keeping is poor!!! Should be less than 5 seconds per day. It is 2023 after all