Leaders Clash on Tax and Immigration in ITV Election Debate

Seven party leaders and representatives took the stage for ITV's second General Election debate on Thursday evening, addressing issues such as taxes, immigration, and the cost of living. On stage were Penny Mordaunt from the Conservatives, Angela Rayner from Labour, Stephen Flynn from the SNP, Daisy Cooper from the Liberal Democrats, Rhun ap Iorwerth from Plaid Cymru, Carla Denyer from the Green Party, and Nigel Farage from Reform UK. The debate was moderated by Julie Etchingham of ITV News, who asked questions on key topics selected by the public ahead of the event. Report by Matthew Covell.

[@trident8480]

They say we need more migrant workers why not focus on training British people to do those jobs properly and effectively

[@ukqwerty999]

Farage has said that many times, Give the jobs to the people in the UK. These, we need more population, politicians are crazy. It drives down wages and drives up everyone's housing costs

[@Justin-yt8zv]

A sensible comment but sadly migration has gone from being a debate about the benefits and complications to a topic of religeous zealotry. Do we want some migrants...of course...Do we have to pretend that a one way revolving door with every man and his dog are allowed to turn up here without any planning.....bad bad policy. The fact that the left have turned migration into an extreme topic with their open door policies is always going to push sensible people from the centre further to the right to counter act it. You can see it from the greens, labour, tories, SNP, ok some of them said it needs to come down but they can't go as far as farage because then they have to come to terms with reality that the last 20 years has been a complete failure of policy on their part, they can't admit it.

[@iamkinginmycastle2018]

Lets be honest little bit the issue is to many lazy people in this country to many of them want money for doing nothing.

[@longrolstral]

Perhaps the *_benefits_* of _not_ working must be reduced first. The welfare state was never intended to be permanent lifestyle, and was supposed to provide the bare minimum to keep people alive. Now it buys fags and booze, Sub TV and other luxuries.

[@samdonohoe9796]

They got rid of the NHS bursary, people stopped studying nursing and other health degrees such as radiography, they removed it so a lot less people did it creating a shortage, brought in less skilled people from places like India that I had to work with in NHS, no real incentives to stay left to Canada early this year good riddance, Tories don't value the British workforce, they work hand in hand to make the people that own universities a LOT of money

[@kalonaklan]

The only one here who isn’t talking out of their backsides is Nigel Farage, vote Reform.

[@bannjaxx]

Yep, he should sit down and do a one to one interview with a decent journalist, why won't he do you think?

[@macsmith6216]

Because the 💩comes out of his mouth

[@mosesman01]

Heres a few. He said that Barack Obama had enacted extreme vetting on immigration during his presidency. He didn't. Obama did review the vetting procedures applied to citizens of a single country (Iraq) and then only to refugees and applicants for Special Immigrant Visas, unlike Trump who has ordered a ban on people from seven countries with a population of more than 130million, including tourists and business travellers. Farage also said Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain refused to take a single refugee or displaced person from Syria, when in fact there are actually 2-3million Syrians in the Gulf countries, many of whom arrived when the war began and are no therefore included in UNHCR statistics. The Saudi government has, since the conflict began in 2011, hosted 2.5million refugees and has given permanent residency to hundreds of thousands of Syrians. In a speech, Farage accused the European Commission of being the sole arbiter of legislation in the European Union. In reality the Commission takes it priorities from elected member state governments (the Council) and performs a role more akin to the British civil service. The third institution, the European Parliament, is made up of directly elected MEPs. Farage should know this by now, he's been one for over 10 years. He claims that 70% of the laws in the UK are made by the EU. The real number is difficult to quantify, but the independent House of Commons library put it at just 13.2%. The EU does not cost £55 million every day, as Farage has repeatedly said.. This is double the real number and does not account for the benefits we get back. And before you ask, no, £350million extra a week will not be given to the NHS when we leave. Nigel Farage and every other leading figure who backed leave distanced themselves the morning after the vote.

[@jeharli]

@@mosesman01ok what about the real policies and solutions, you want more people coming into UK? You want more crime and less accountability? You want higher prices? Higher taxes? Etc so many things make Farage your best option, hell, your only option for a real leader that cares for your people first

[@michaeloconnor2603]

Talking through your hole...garage is a snake oil salesman

[@alisoneidson2838]

Reform UK have gone ahead of Tories in the polls as the second party. This could mean that a Tory vote is a wasted vote for Labour. Vote Reform to sack the Tories properly and get a real opposition party that will call out Labour's woke nonsense.

[@MVUK358]

Amen!

[@garystevens4303]

We'll see come 4th July. Will be interesting. 😮

[@rolandrothwell4840]

Reform are ahead of the Tories in one poll only. So don't get the flags out just yet!

[@Techno_Monkey_]

thats a garenteed labour goverment then thanks

[@burtingtune]

@@Techno_Monkey_ No it isn´t. If the diminishing Tory vote switches to that of the still growing and higher share for the Reform party.

[@robertdavies4873]

What about the 7 million pounds a day for the immagrants in hotels!!!!!!

[@darrengallagher2208]

if they tell you its 7 you may as well double that figure and its going up more and more every day as they land more of them here

[@The1Green4Man]

We’re paying for our own replacement

[@jammybadger6514]

8.5 million they're saying now.😮

[@nosoul4233]

Sssshhhh your not allowed to take about that

[@andyluffman6314]

Would it be a good idea to let them work, like they must in Germany? So the EU countries seem to have a better way of dealing. Oh the irony for those that voted for Brexit.

[@justinmerralls8077]

Nigel is right, it's not the budget that the problem with the NHS. It's the level of waste and miss management.

[@sidsod1616]

NHS job advertised the other week, diversity manager £91,000. That's money we'll spent.

[@richardfox6595]

My father and sister both worked many years in the NHS and saw the waste and mismanagement first hand.

[@rolandrothwell4840]

I've worked in the NHS, as a staff nurse and I can assure you Nigel couldn't be more wrong, it is underfunded! You'd take the word of a public school boy and millionaire who uses private health care¡!!!!!!!!

[@ionlyfearphobophobia]

@@rolandrothwell4840 Who do you think you're kidding? The spend far more on our health service than other countries and yet have far worse outcomes. The NHS killed my ex, and rather than own that degree of malpractice, they messed her about for over a year pretending they didn't know what was wrong with her so she wouldn't sue them, until she eventually died. Don't you dare pretend like the NHS just needs more money. It needs reform, and there is literally nothing you can tell me that will convince me otherwise.

[@stevemcgarrett24]

@@rolandrothwell4840. Absolute rubbish!! The nhs is overflowing with lazy, uncaring and entitled workers. It’s a global embarrassment!!

[@PaulDonnam-xs4kg]

SNP need to go, Scotland needs its independence from them.

[@sh.4409]

England, Scotland and Wales need independence from the British Government. It's them importing people in to each country, tax hikes are to fund their imports..

[@JohnDoe-nl3nf]

Well said, but SNP don't want Scottish independence, that's a common misconception. They want Scotland to be a protectorate of the EU.

[@matthewouidir589]

@@JohnDoe-nl3nfthey’re worse than I even imagined

[@lvpvsmalvm522]

they are a complete joke and have no idea how to run a country. Their only goal is for scotland to be independent. They don't actually have a serious plan on ANYTHING else!!!

[@ur-inannak9565]

Odd name too, whats so national about them? Perhaps the Scottish nation is the target of their underminings?

[@craigrothwell6144]

2million more people living here in the past 3 years is NOT helping with waiting lists!

[@ruf930porsche]

What might be more telling, would be knowing how many of those people were on work visa's propping up the NHS since EU members had to leave, post Brexit! No one has kept track of how many workers came and went, whilst the UK was a member of the EU!

[@Zaphod-ef9yz]

No lefty will answer who increasing the population is good for waiting lists, carbon footprints, housing shortages, the list goes on..

[@johnproton259]

That's why you don't vote Conservative.

[@yousausage]

Ah yes but you can't say that as it's racist.

[@Zaphod-ef9yz]

@yousausage Question 1: Johnny needs six litres of water and he has a 5 litre bucket. How many litres can Johnny fit in? Answer: 5 Question 2: Why couldn't Johnny fit 6 litres of water in his 5 litre bucket? Answer: Because he is racist 🙄

[@mwilson34341]

That scottish guy doesn't speak for me and i'm a scot, the SNP are bad for Scotland.

[@traceyrhoden9808]

Please vote them out

[@bogglesbiggins1101]

"We need more immigration!" What a psychopath, how are they Scottish 'nationalists'. Should be Scottish Globalist Party.

[@chickwood3883]

​@@traceyrhoden9808we will 🇬🇧

[@barryd8566]

Uncle fester

[@portman8909]

Move to England then.

[@jannette834]

im 65 Nigel for me, this country is beyond on its knees, too many migrants and illegals and at the detriment of British citizens, were getting lower on the scale in our own country, our towns been ruined and were scared to go out during the day. he's the only party who seems to listen to the people, labour were a disaster last time they were in.

[@rolandrothwell4840]

Really? When Labour were last "in" we had 2.5% - 3% gdp annually. We had lower inflation and public services were working.

[@johnjohn8836]

@@rolandrothwell4840 yes but it was all propped up by lending too much money. Tony Blair should be in prison

[@Alex-uh1mj]

It was all the EUs fault. Now its all the immigrants fault hes a demagogue.

[@BeepBoop2221]

Nigel lied to you all once and you're falling for it again!

[@waqstar7067]

Didn't nigel talk all this lovely rhetoric last time and then abandon ship and now he's back again with the same talk?

[@daviddenham1511]

Voting for Sunak or Starmer is like sh--ing your pants and then changing your tie…

[@rolandrothwell4840]

What a delightful illustration!

[@chrislaurenceleo]

Careful, your starting to sound like a reform voter.

[@Alex-uh1mj]

Voting for fraudage is like sh____ing your pants and pointing your finger at someone else and claiming they farted

[@chrislaurenceleo]

@@Alex-uh1mj well said. I just do not understand anybody willing to waste their vote on the little hitler

[@wendyholland2339]

Well said 😂

[@billdennis3681]

Vote Reform Party.

[@Theyorkshirepirlo]

They can’t get away with blaming farage anymore, the whole of Europe is seeing issues with unlimited immigration and voting in governments that will stop or slow immigration. The politicians saying it isn’t an issue are out of date and talking out of their arses

[@ConstructiveMinds100]

Obviously you on purpose ommited the high numbers of emigration after BRExit. Wonder why? 😂

[@paulbantick8266]

@@ConstructiveMinds100 Umm! The rest of Europe have been invaded too. Nothing to do with Brexit but all to do with the left and the people of Europe know it.

[@dave710]

​@@ConstructiveMinds100 Focus on the post sonny!

[@divinity176]

Migration should be controlled - I don't think any reasonable person would dispute this. The problem with thinking Brexit was a solution was 1) Non-EU migration was always higher 2) UK never implemented any of the immigration controls of EU migrants that it was allowed to under EU law. Brexit was a false solution because it was premised on the wrong causes. And we are seeing the outcome of that - record numbers of migrants.

[@Techno_Monkey_]

its the torys, not fararge that anyone blames

[@mlgfrog27]

Vote for Reform. Lets make Britain great 🇬🇧😆

[@user-up8xq4uf1h]

Exactly

[@rolandrothwell4840]

I'd rather drink 🍸 my own urine than vote for fascist Reform

[@Dragonsitter]

This is MAGA. Positively Trumpian lol

[@tomcross3000]

Labour is best. Nigel is untrustworthy, track record of failure.

[@MrKhan-vg5rz]

Vote reform and become poorer. How did brexit work out for you?

[@marklastname1993]

Farage smashed it, made all the others look like knobs

[@leonardireland7362]

They are not look like

[@popdop0074]

Cope, Stephen Flynn and Rhun ap Lorwerth owned everyone repeatedly. Farage is just blatantly lying, I'm sorry if you don't like the facts.

[@rolandrothwell4840]

Your easily taken in. Farage is a desperate and dangerous fascist

[@tomcross3000]

Actually he looked like a goon, offered no solutions, whinged and attacked.

[@RemoanersRtossers]

​@@rolandrothwell4840 Grow up child and ask your mum what a fascist is! Muppet! 🤣

[@nigelarmstrong252]

Total delusion by all but Farage.

[@rolandrothwell4840]

Farage is the most delusional and can only offer populism as a solution. Desperate

[@RemoanersRtossers]

​@@rolandrothwell4840 CRY MORE LOSER! 😭

[@BlackWingedSeraphX]

He's the only one with the spine to tell the truth. The rest are afraid they'll be called "racist" but the Mass Migration stuff is a huge problem.

[@goddesssalem4842]

Farage is controlled opposition 😂😂😂

[@BlackWingedSeraphX]

@@goddesssalem4842 He's not. Your side is just evil.

[@RobinOfTheHoodGB]

VOTE REFORM UK! NIGEL FOR PM!

[@hogman3543]

Don't vote for him

[@InputArchive]

@hogman3543 They will. He's lied during Brexit, then he disappeared after none of his claims came true and has now come back to make literally the same promises again. He's definitely going after the aging population, the ones with waning memories 😆

[@pizzamad3334]

@@hogman3543 100% voting for reform. I'm done with the nonce left.

[@jamier7785]

​@@hogman3543 absolutely vote for Nigel he is miles ahead in all these debates

[@JamieZero7]

@@hogman3543 How so? he is the only one that isn't wanting the same old failed policies.

[@gavinmyloff2230]

As a Scot I ask who is that clown from the snp, he's literally calling for the fall of our nation, p.s. RULE BRITANNIA 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇬🇧

[@gavinmyloff2230]

Oh forgot to add, LFG NIGEL FARAGE 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🤝 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🤝 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🤝 🇯🇪 🤝 🇬🇮 🤝 🇬🇬 🤝 🇬🇧

[@Alex-uh1mj]

Deffo not Scottish 🤣

[@greatscott369]

The snp represent the opposite of freedom

[@Pocketpatriot]

Yeah he’s just a wee puppet yes man trying to get votes,he’s a fraud

[@historystuff.2835]

@@Alex-uh1mj deffo is mate

[@markedwards465]

Let put Nigel farage in number 10 . So vote for reform UK and get a better uk

[@ConstructiveMinds100]

Farage = banking mates. Great.

[@user-up8xq4uf1h]

Exactly

[@rolandrothwell4840]

You must be joking. And its a sick joke.

[@RemoanersRtossers]

​@@ConstructiveMinds100 . He never was a banker you silly Banker! 🤣

[@RemoanersRtossers]

Absolutely agree! Ignore the Turnips!

[@henrihsdh]

Vote Reform Uk. Vote Nigel Farage. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@davidmiller1215]

I Do Believe He Is The Man Has The Balls And The Bollocks To Get This Country Back On Its Feet ? However Never Voted Tory In My Life Never Ever Will He Is Ex Tory But Most Honest Straightforward Politician Out There Is What I See ? Reason I Say That He Looks At Every Angle

[@davidmiller1215]

Nigel Is So Bang On !

[@rolandrothwell4840]

Vote Farage 🗳 you've got to be joking 😂😂😂😂😂

[@JulieMalone-oy1ll]

​@@rolandrothwell4840 that's your choice

[@daniele.tbarrett1630]

Yea let's blame nigel. Pathetic I was 19 when I voted to leave and i still would. It was never followed through correctly.

[@WH-hi5ew]

It was followed through correctly enough to trash the economy but not enough to stop all illegal migration which was always going to be a tougher ask.

[@prashantduggal8235]

It has been followed through correctly. Sadly, he and the policy itself, made no sense and never will.

[@RemoanersRtossers]

​@@WH-hi5ew . By what measure is our economy trashed?

[@tomcross3000]

That made everyone poorer, that's why he's attacked, because he said you'd be richer and you're not.

[@RemoanersRtossers]

@@tomcross3000 Has it made us poorer? My family are self employed tradesmen now making a decent living since cut price eu workers went home. 👍

[@z-rex6068]

The SNP guy is such a remoaner, it’s unbelievable

[@patriciasiddle5379]

Too right

[@bannjaxx]

Whereas you're still pretending brexit wasn't a skip fire I'm guessing?

[@dave710]

​@@bannjaxx Due to those in power not implementing it!

[@bannjaxx]

@@dave710 yep, keep tellin' yourself that buddy - there was no scenario brexit would've worked, but you go on deluding yourself that it was "the wrong sort of brexit" 🤣🤣🤣yep, 'cos theres a good way to lose friction free access to the world's biggest market? Do us a favour - wake tf up.

[@emberplate]

​​@@bannjaxxThe EU is a right wing, neo lib, capitalist experiment with increasingly far right countries as members. Let's see how the SNP marries that up with pretending Brexit was a xenophobic, right wing mistake.

[@darren767]

it baffles me how they always discuss migration as though they are all hard workers coming in to contribute. almost as though my neighborhood hasn't turned into a complete shithole by non working people with their 'diverse cultures'.!!

[@Lillilady888]

There are all types of non working migrants all round Midlands, begging, shoplifting, etc. Out towns are ruined.

[@mrmeldrew693]

​@@Lillilady888I drove through Birmingham last weekend - beggars at almost every set of traffic lights/junctions.

[@deb7834]

Invite the politicians over for a visit for a few days so they can get a realistic view of the impact their policies have had on parts of Britain. Birmingham has been a sinkhole for decades thanks to liberal policy on immigration.

[@darren767]

@@deb7834 I would but I suspect they would be too busy...lol....

[@tomcross3000]

misdirected anger. Why are diverse cultures bad and not the ruling class?

[@niksgee3538]

Have to vote reform he is only one who has a clue

[@nofucksgiven88]

he’s a conservative so basically a liar

[@christhompson4170]

Funny how Starmer avoids debates with Farage, I wonder why (clue he would lose).

[@bertiescunsbutch9323]

Starmer would be destroyed. He's a tool.

[@myaopan]

nobody has won a debate against Farage.

[@stevoone342]

Starmer is a career politician and a coward, he would be destroyed by farage. That’s why labour and the mainstream media are trying there best to destroy/ smear reform they are running scared.

[@user-ix3ev8ti4r]

Because Farage isn't running for prime minister lol

[@waqstar7067]

Oh because farage did such a great job last time.?

[@vincentblack7467]

Vote Reform.. You know it makes sense...

[@stop-the-greed]

No thanks

[@tomcross3000]

No?

[@user-ee1zb1fn3y]

Excellent. I ll be cancelling out your vote then​@@stop-the-greed

[@pizzamad3334]

100% voting reform

[@sme5548]

Think the snp need to ask the people of Scotland if they want more migrants, I know who I’m voting for it’s reform all the way for me and my family.

[@user-xw7uy4gp5g]

Reform? More like refrain!

[@PLeon-kd1yd]

We don’t need one immigrant. There’s millions unemployed in this country until we have zero unemployment we don’t need any

[@tssl21]

You can't see the big picture then

[@chickwood3883]

Reform for me all day long , but I HAVE to vote for Labour here in scotland to rid ourselves of the snp 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@jamesmcstein6758]

Sunak and Starmer not turning up to debates. Coz they cant Barrage the Farrage 👍

[@traceyrhoden9808]

Running scared

[@-mattm]

Where is Ed Davey?? If anyone cares.

[@liamc4397]

says it all they dont even turn up !!! cowards

[@geeof3912]

Sunak is on a “jolly” in Italy

[@pedlervasecondaccount6699]

Vote Nigel

[@andrewcooper103]

A vote for nigel is a vote for the Conservative b team.one trick pony ,blame immigrants,hes establishment man who protects his rich pals from wealth tax.he wants to give his elite pals nhs,building contracts that you pay for.

[@kevind6956]

Farage made them all look like the amateurs they are.

[@raycorrigan3297]

Expert liar. Convincing but lies.

[@RemoanersRtossers]

​@@raycorrigan3297 Cry more Loser! 😭

[@pizzamad3334]

@@raycorrigan3297 whatever you say lefty

[@raycorrigan3297]

@@pizzamad3334 I’m right wing but not a idiot

[@pizzamad3334]

@@raycorrigan3297 OK cool. Go vote Labour

[@wiganer]

Vote reform 🇬🇧

[@Alexxx---101]

Vote Reform and stick 2 fingers up at Labour and the Tories! If you know someone that doesn't normally vote give them a shake and explain how important this election is for their future.

[@tssl21]

They are tories 😂

[@Alexxx---101]

@tssl21 No they're not, you're a liar.

[@jamonit7169]

Mate, keep up the good work but don't waste your time responding to the saddos...

[@goharikjones7387]

Reform, Reform party gets our family and friends VOTE !

[@knockshinnoch1950]

This debate was so fecking depressing and the audience were pathetic. Just the same over rehearsed sound bites trotted out. Zero substance. It was like a bad High School debating society contest.

[@user-dt3iv5oc6f]

Nigel farage was the boss though

[@dwiggi3rd504]

The Audience was a hand-picked Woke audience typical of ALL these debate and 'question time' shows.

[@pizzamad3334]

@@user-dt3iv5oc6f 100%

[@Winter_Of_Civilisation]

@@dwiggi3rd504funny how they read their questions?

[@keithlowton308]

PLEASE PEOPLE VOTE REFORM.

[@user-yk2gs7xc7c]

I wasn't going to vote. Now I'm going to vote reform.

[@traceyrhoden9808]

Well done

[@troysmith4363]

Excellent!

[@richardbarlow7337]

Immigration is, was and always will be the main problem this country faces. Cure that and most of the other problems go away.

[@m.shearer5233]

It's very tiring watching the punch and Judy show with these woke mainstream politicians... Except Nigel farage who is clearly embarrassed listening to empty promises. Vote for Reform... Vote for commonsense not Establishment nonsense 🙏

[@michealridgway7607]

Nigel Farage can promise anything without actually having to deliver anything.

[@user-xw7uy4gp5g]

Farage, the king of empty promises! Where are the "sunny uplands"?

[@Jorge77770]

Farage is a snake oil salesman, also mate, its Reform UK ltd. The political party brought to you by billionaires

[@DjDeanB]

​@@user-xw7uy4gp5git's hard to deliver when not being in the commons, saying that, he has still delivered more than the current clowns in it now.....Brexit. Shame these elected numpties have made a total hash of delivering it to the full potential for the British people.... Yet somehow Farage is to blame for it all. It's getting boring now.

[@Jokerjaxs]

Come on he was great in the jungle 😂 I’m sure he can lead us

[@ronsmith-ug5jl]

Nigel Farage was without doubt the best there.. Full stop. I just wish we had a real left wing

[@stop-the-greed]

But he's not to be trusted

[@user-cs3wr1nj1r]

And one who hasn't been took over bye Islam.

[@GloryCarrier22]

@@stop-the-greedexplain, or shut up.

[@mrmass71]

​@@user-cs3wr1nj1r"bye"? Where are you going?

[@mrmass71]

​@@GloryCarrier22explain why, or shut up.

[@Bringbackthesixties]

The Welsh and Scottish representatives are an embarrassment

[@bernieb5233]

As always..

[@garfs5208]

Not really

[@Bringbackthesixties]

@@garfs5208 just totally

[@garfs5208]

@@Bringbackthesixties nah

[@OscarOscar-jq2st]

Look how many cars are on the roads there's way too many people in the uk

[@swally291]

Ok smarty...the aging population is increasing, the birth rate is falling, who will pay into the pension scheme?

[@mrsmokeysgarden5152]

@@swally291the pension scheme is one of the biggest cons in this country.. most people done love to see there pension these days. No point in paying into one

[@missladybug319]

No to many bikes

[@philipfreyaborn8288]

Tell that to the 'Greens' - apparently somehow we can preserve our beautiful countryside and wildlife habitats - whilst simultaneously having the population explode with mostly dodgy scary blokes from mediaeval dumps doing sh1t all - except drawing benefits and dealing druuggs

[@ukqwerty999]

@@swally291 That's such an overused fear-mongering argument :) Do you think the world's population is just going to keep increasing until the end of time "because we need more pension money" It's delusional.

[@user-zc4yd9ss7h]

Penny M seemed demented at times.

[@199019852007]

But she does look godly during a coronation

[@aclark903]

Sticky wicket to be fair. Probably about to lose her seat. 😅

[@seniorslaphead8336]

She IS demented for doing this. Just another one nation Tory who needs to go down with the ship. Don't let her in Reform.

[@Jokerjaxs]

Bye penny 😂

[@paulduffy697]

Vote Reform

[@ptyb6195]

Can’t go around breaking the rules says Rayner, that’s rich coming from her.

[@hillbillyacoustics6547]

Agreed, nice pun, she got rich breaking them 🤣

[@leonardireland7362]

Typical SNP haven't a clue what there talking about

[@Whiteshirtloosetie]

SNP has only one policy. Moan about everything and everything is everybody else's fault and never theirs. A simple solution. If the SNP wants illegal emigration. Save fuel to Rwanda and send every single one by air to Scotland with the ruling that they have to stay in Scotland. Then let the SNP sort it all out. See how long that lasts just like Ireland until the novelty wears off. SNP hates England so tell them straight the Scottish Parliament pays for everything.

[@maxtracker2904]

@@WhiteshirtloosetieSo you’re essentially arguing for Scottish independence? 😂

[@Whiteshirtloosetie]

@@maxtracker2904 Far from it. After all the SNP would have no one to moan about. :)

[@constantingherghinoiu4541]

Nivel Farage is right: I hope he will win this elections !

[@Spitfire666100]

He won’t but reform have over taken the torries which is huge

[@BlackWingedSeraphX]

@@Spitfire666100 He will if the UK grows a pair.

[@douglasreid8452]

OMG take more PEOPLE in....need SNP out ASAP more like. Why should people want to come here when you get taxed for breathing in Scotland.

[@leonardireland7362]

The SNP need the EU because they don't know how to run there own country

[@patriciasiddle5379]

Correct

[@paultoseland9524]

Devolution has failed

[@darrenpittard8629]

Reform got my vote 👍

[@GordonDriver]

Absolute shambles the muppet show

[@-mattm]

We have the Biden v Trump debates to look forward to.

[@jasonmadelin3633]

Its not the National health service anymore it is the international health service with people from around the World useing it.

[@robertdavies4873]

The hotels in my town are full with the immagrants!

[@pizzamad3334]

same all over yorkshire.

[@JamieZero7]

Poor people who live in Schemes are being attacked my immigrants. Nobody feels safe here. We are turning into London. Only the polish can be relied to help us against them.

[@grahamhollingworth8253]

The NHS is creaking because of too many foreigners not paying owt in but taking all the treatment. I feel sorry for the young lad who was stabbed to death last week but he was here from the Caribbean having his cataracts treated having been in the country for 6 months, give me a break.

[@jamesagba8604]

How did you get to the conclusion that foreigners are not paying but taking all the treatment.

[@stuartdove8814]

​@@jamesagba8604 wak up ffs...❄️

[@jamesagba8604]

@@stuartdove8814 I asked a question that I genuinely need an answer to. Neither you nor @grahamhollingworth8253 has provided any sort of information. In case you missed the question, here it is; how did you come to the conclusion that foreigners pay nothing and take all the treatment.

[@juanrodriguez-deluca8820]

​@@jamesagba8604 let's be the most generous to people then. Based off of the fact that 53% of immigrants are dependents that would mean that there is likely to be more taken out than put in. Then you could also factor things in like over 70% of somalis are in social housing in the UK. And even if they were all contributing more than their fair share the NHS still has to accommodate the larger population.

[@rollyunicorn]

@@jamesagba8604 If you're still having to look for the answer then all that says about you is that you've been/are walking around with your eyes shut, like some new born puppy.

[@PaulDonnam-xs4kg]

Money doesn't buy class 😂.

[@DianePowell-tv3uy]

Nigel Well done

[@boranbkk4270]

The Greens & the Liberal’s what utterly pointless parties……and the SNP what a joker that fella is lol

[@Needafollower]

Get rid of nursing as a university degree. Half the nurses coming through can write a good easy but don’t have a clue! Change it to an apprenticeship and get student nurses to learn in the wards.

[@jacquelinepeters3575]

As they did in my day.

[@sam16071997]

We do learn in the wards?...More than 50% of a 3 year degree is spent in placement in a nursing, out-patient, hospital or a secure unit setting.

[@Needafollower]

Exactly! But the other 50% is in uni learn about the therapeutic use of self and other nonsense

[@UrServix]

Both the current UK nursing curriculum and apprenticeship like back in the day are reliant on the premise that the staff they learn from are consistent to the standards of nursing. I know for a fact that current staff are inconsistent in all areas hence student nurses will learn crooked ways before they even qualify

[@Needafollower]

Well in my experience some of the student nurses coming through are dangerous due to lack of experience, lack of medication knowledge/side effects/dosages. I understand it’s been tough for them during covid but sitting in a classroom isn’t getting them the experience they need! And if they see ‘crooked ways’ they are within their right to report said practices..

[@spencerday6141]

Mps needs to look after there own people Instead of putting immigrants 1st

[@daviddenham1511]

Here’s an idea….divert the dinghies to Edinburghs beaches….keep the Scots happy

[@patriciasiddle5379]

Well said my thoughts too 👍

[@ukqwerty999]

:) They'll make one first minister within 6 months of landing.

[@patriciasiddle5379]

@@ukqwerty999 true

[@JacquelineM2023]

He doesn't speak for Scots.... Most Scottish people resent Scotland looking like a foreign ghetto. SNP are a joke.

[@douglasreid8452]

Please don't 😆. Put all the SNP members on a flight to Rawanda and the relief all round would Scotland would be heard in Cornwall.

[@pipkins1972]

Why would anyone waste their time voting for anyone but Reform.

[@pal_494]

I'm voting Reform The old and tired parties are no longer fit for purpose

[@geoffwilson1784]

Farage right again as usual. Vote Reform.

[@billpentelow6941]

Britain WAS a rich country.

[@xazarl3381]

Still is compared to the world

[@billpentelow6941]

@@xazarl3381 Yes all in the hands of a few.

[@zoeramis9704]

Why is it all the other parties dig at Nigel but he knows what the public want i will vote REFORM

[@jock2me]

I'm actually going to comment on how fair this debate was... and i really must say the 7 debate is way more informative than the boring leaders debate of 2...im an ex snp supporter who voted for independence in 2014 and because i understand what independence means i voted for Brexit in 2016 my vote in this election will be for reform... not because I'm a proud or a patriot of Britain but because the political system needs reform...

[@jacquelinefletcher5677]

Vote REFORM

[@niksgee3538]

Angie was a home care worker and starmers dad was a tool maker.

[@mrmass71]

And?

[@bernardgarrett3897]

Tell me one more time.

[@user-pz4qq7qz8t]

Aye and Starmers a tool !

[@AlanSmith-xu3lo]

We know that we’ve been told that many times

[@louloubrow2171]

Sounds like bias audience 😢

[@paultoseland9524]

They purposely find as many remoaners and Nigel haters

[@dazza9326]

Wasn't it just. A left wing one. And as for that Scotish bloke, he wasn't speaking for the Scotish people.

[@tidysampler585]

A debate like this will always have a hand picked audience that suits the channels narrative. And the best of it was, the show boating was well at play last night.

[@logansharkey871]

No just no

[@dazza9326]

@@logansharkey871 Yes just yes.

[@A.1986.]

Nigel is the only person who gives clear answers. Labour just change the subject or don't give clear answers

[@markfarnon6742]

Nigel Farage the only one making any sense to me.

[@BlackWingedSeraphX]

He's making sense to everyone. But the Media is controlled by the weak soyfailures.

[@The1Green4Man]

Immigration effects everything, NHS wait times, traffic, housing and rent prices, wage depression, so on…

[@neilstorey7319]

Everyone voting Reform should persuade at least three undecided friends & family members to also vote Reform. Then ask each of them to do the same. Numbers would quickly explode! It is time to change our broken system and bring sanity and common sense to Westminster!

[@stop-the-greed]

Well that's the NHS sold off

[@mrsmokeysgarden5152]

@@stop-the-greedthe nhs doesn’t work anyone. It’s a broken system. Stop clinging onto a broken toy. It’s time to get a new one

[@jackriley5750]

@@mrsmokeysgarden5152 what so socialist Farage is gonna create a new NHS? or you mean we'll be like US where people have medical debts and pharmaceutical companies can charge quadruple the amount for basic medication?

[@stop-the-greed]

@@mrsmokeysgarden5152 no thanks we need to fix it . Get private companies out of it . They put profit above health .

[@RemoanersRtossers]

​@@jackriley5750 . You prefer watching the NHS crumbling of course! Well done! 👏👏👏

[@ilikepowertools]

Crisis in NHS alright, they can not even get basic hygiene right. Too busy hiding in corners on their phones! Nigel is the only one talking sense. My neighbourhood sounds and looks like a foreign country. This lot haven't got a clue in their nice areas where they live

[@TheytellToomanylies]

Migrations was a joke title for boat people, skilled workers is an insult. Its not even the same thing. The people talk about illegal boat people unwilling to integrate, snd the gooberment wanabe leaders here turn that into talking about legal doctors. We are not bothered about legals. Just lets all call them the boat people because we all mean that dont we?

[@Fine_Times]

Only allow people Who Will integrate .....

[@Theyorkshirepirlo]

I agree but also work and pay tax

[@Fine_Times]

@@Theyorkshirepirlo i Guess you mean income tax in particular. Look at where your taxes are going my fellow English man. Ukraine.

[@missladybug319]

​@@Fine_Timesthank Demented Biden for that

[@sidsod1616]

And contribute 😊

[@Fine_Times]

@@sidsod1616 Fair comment but only tò a government that cares for its people.

[@dannymurphy4199]

Nigel not folding to agendas and telling the truth. I’ve done a 360 on my view of him. Vote reform

[@stevefdarby4057]

Can't see a doctor, Down to immigration.

[@BrainyElephant1001]

Vote Reform!

[@stevefdarby4057]

Can't find anywhere to rent, Down to immigration.

[@darrenpittard8629]

Nigel destroyed them all😂😂😂

[@DarthValificent]

SNP guy is so bloody rude

[@aimeehind8438]

Reform are second and closing in. Come on, people make a difference back Reforms campaign. One hour posting leaflets and your vote is all it takes for real change. 🇬🇧 VOTE REFORM 🥇

[@theoilandgasresourceportal2132]

Why does every discussion on immigration end up being about racism? Over population is an issue, if people can't see that there is no hope

[@MikeC1965]

They just don’t get it, they are not listening. The problem isn’t the skilled migrants it’s the unskilled coming in across the channel in rubber boats. If we have job vacancies why do we have unemployment, you work or you get nothing

[@petestobbs5844]

Since the covid shamedic you mean!

[@bootsymad9101]

Plandemic.

[@user-bl4xm6nq3v]

Rayner ignoring what Labour has done to NHS in Wales.

[@peterwright997]

God they make me want to puke!! Nigel we need you like never before!

[@malcolmcowan9554]

More votes off the Labour party tonight... get in there nigel 🎉🎉 😅😂😂

[@MegaTrueTalk]

Vote Reform Local, Rwanda National.

[@MikeSmith-gf4lv]

What about those foreign criminals in the UK prisons, are we keeping their dependents so they can visit them in prison?

[@andrewwang6814]

lol the SNP at least admitted that Reform is the main party

[@BobbyFlay14]

Vote reform

[@TheytellToomanylies]

Are the questions given to actors in the crowd?

[@paultoseland9524]

More than likely

[@Wayne_Farrow]

Why do we have a separate debate between the 2 main leaders, should all the leaders be on these debates?

[@vonlouie77]

How can this be a debate when the leaders of labour and tories aren’t participating are they scared of being shown up

[@sparky7558]

I'm voting reform angela rayner keeps saying we need reform 😂

[@-mattm]

Yes Farage missed a trick on that one.

[@TheConductori]

Nigel Farage's views on immigration are absolutely spot-on. As someone from the Middle East, I see how hard it is for Muslims to integrate into British/Western society. Muslim culture and British culture are worlds apart. Integration is impossible, especially when we are talking about mass immigration! Muslims also have deep attachment to their faith which often clashes with the UK secular, liberal values, causing constant tension and difficulties in assimilation to western societies. Additionally, there is a lot of distrust and even hatred towards non-Muslims in almost all Muslim communities, making a cohesive society impossible. Many Muslims hold views that don't align with Western values, especially on LGBTQ+ rights and freedom of expression. + asylum seekers also exploit the UK's welfare system and freedoms, attacking British values and using the UK's generosity to criticize both their former and current societies. Honesty, the Rwanda bill is a great way to handle this burden. The UK should also consider sending asylum seekers to places like Comoros and Uzbekistan, which share their values. it's time to face facts: mass immigration of Muslims into the UK isn't sustainable, and those who oppose this view are ignoring reality and probably don't know Muslims very well.

[@tomrigby7016]

Nigel is the only one saying what the want that SNP guy is Nuts

[@everest9707]

Regardless of political party, many in the UK have lost faith that the government and the civil service will stop the uncontrolled legal migration - note that is legal, the side of migration that we most have control over. The effects of uncontrolled migration are seen in: - increase of people on benefits. See the government's data of unemployment by ethnicity - despite the image fed to us, white British have the lowest unemployment rate compared to all other ethnicities. - artificially lowering the minimum wage due to an abundance of cheap imported labour. We have parts of the indigenous population that rely heavily on low paid low skilled jobs, and they are having to compete with people who are used to earning below the poverty level of Africa, Indian Subcontinent, Middle East etc - increase in house prices and rental prices - which also impacts the birth rate of the indigenous population, as they will avoid having children if they can't afford them. - more building on our protected Green Belt land due to the housing pressure - more building on existing buildings and causing social tension as people live cheek by jowl. Legislation has been relaxed to encourage this in-building. The UK already has some of the smallest homes, compared to Europe. - increase in violence and crime. There is a general increase, plus some which is specific to certain ethnicities. Knife (and machete) crime is more frequent, however whilst it captures the headlines, many other forms of crime, not typical to the indigenous population are flourishing. The Asian (Indian subcontinent) grooming gangs rap_ing/assaulting/drugging white children. - increased demand for extra policing, in the tens of thousands (look at the different police force's online wanted posters, there is a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population) - increased demand for prison officers, and prison buildings (look at the prison population, where there is again a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population). We are already releasing criminals early, and not imprisoning others, due to a lack of prison places! And the increase in taxes to pay for these. - increased demand on the judiciary. Our courts are blocked with massive queues, and everything is done to delay cases going to the CPS or going to court. We have a lack of staff and buildings. Very serious cases are rarely reaching the CPS or courts, or take years to go through the system. This causes a lack of justice, an increased risk to the population as criminals continue to live amongst us, and it encourages crime (justice needs to be swift to act as a deterrent). - the loss of our capital city London. It is now predominantly populated by people who self identify as belonging to an ethnic minority. You rarely hear English spoken! This will impact tourism - a quarter of a million people work in the tourism sector in London alone. - greater difficulty in seeing a healthcare professional, especially one that speaks intelligible English, be it a GP, Consultant, or dentist - hospitals frequently declaring emergencies as their A&E queues of ambulances with patients stuck in them grow longer. Even hospitals, in areas with a vast majority of white British population, if you go to the A&E it will be full of people from the middle east, Indian subcontinent, and Africa. Often you won't hear English being spoken! - increased burden of disabled children, on healthcare, special education needs, and state benefits (both for disability, and for the unemployed parents that stay at home caring for their disabled children), unnecessarily caused by cousin marriage, from people from the Indian subcontinent - lack of school and university places. Pressures to change what is being taught, to suit a minority religious population - the enormous congestion on all of our roads. Even country lanes, which were once peaceful, have now become rat runs - religious and social tension, especially from ethnicities that are not interested in integrating - increased suffering of female children subjected to FGM and child marriage - increased distortion of UK elections, as women from the Indian subcontinent lose their vote to their husbands - loss of money spent in the UK economy, as migrants send it back to their countries of origin MORAL QUESTION - is it morally right to import cheap labour to be exploited? And what about those skilled migrants, eg nurses and doctors, that are actually needed in their own country. Is it morally right for the UK to benefit from poorer countries paying to educate and train skilled workers? MENTAL HEALTH BURDEN The effects of a lot of the above pressures, are seen in a rapid increase in mental health problems across all ages, but especially in the young working adults, adults who should, if anything, be the most resilient of society. FINANCIAL BURDEN The UK National Debt is over £3 trillion! Watch it growing in real time: www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk BIRTH RATE FALSE THEORY Some people believe in the theory, that we need to import people because of our lower birth rate, and that there is certain work that we don't want to do. This ignores the fact that we need to increase productivity, especially with automation/robotics/AI (Artificial Intelligence), because other countries will certainly be investing in this, and all of these REDUCE job vacancies - there will be fewer jobs in the near future! Our population might not apply for very low paid jobs, eg picking fruit, or nursing the elderly, but that is because the rates of pay are ridiculously low. Pay a fair wage in an economy that doesn't tilt the table by importing cheap labour! Young indigenous couples, avoid having children because they cannot afford to have them, or don't have the economic and housing stability that they need. This responsible approach to reproducing, is not shared by migrants coming to the UK - they are prepared to live in poverty, and have their families subsidised by the UK taxpayer. Whilst also importing their sick and elderly relatives. WHAT CAN YOU DO? Vote Reform UK! Whoever you decide to vote for, please vote, and encourage others to vote. More people didn't bother to vote (2,496,468) than voted (1,088,225) for Sadiq Khan. More people didn't bother to vote (47,533) than voted (12,335) for Galloway. More people didn't bother to vote (15,553,935) than voted (13,966,454) for the Tories at the last general election. If you don't vote, or you spoil your ballot, then that simply means that someone else who does vote, counts - and their interests might not align with what is best for us and our nation.

[@nickcaswell965]

My friend, that was epic, and all true. If I could share comments I would send that to everyone I know. I've never voted for anyone in 50 years, I'm proudly voting for Reform this time.

[@everest9707]

@@nickcaswell965 thank you. Feel free to copy and paste 👍

[@kennethrichardson8311]

If Angela Rayner is so concerned about the care of British citizens why did she and her party refuse to attend the commons debates on the excessive deaths of British citizens who continue to suffer and die as I type! The Uni-parties did however, attend a 'packed' commons debate on exemption from the Freedom of Information Act which led to the Daily Telegraph investigations into the MPs expenses scandal. If the uni-party want more immigration to keep pace then why did they not encourage young British couples to start families by providing adequate services and financial support. They are not capable of seeing beyond their eyelashes and rely upon knee jerk measures through taxing, vaxing and mandates. Remember that when the British public were locked down and faced heavy penalties during Covid, the uni-party ignored those very measures of containment; I need not remind you of partygate and beer with curry parties!

[@zakzanotti5868]

Nigel Farage is the only one who’s not afraid to tackle the important issues head on