Me and my half-built Leviathan Box Set: “hmm yes I need to know this critical information on how to start a 1000 point army for Space Marines and Tyranids.”
@KiwiTheIguana5 ай бұрын
Me with my mostly unpainted Indomitus box thinking the exact same thing
@LordCrate-du8zm5 ай бұрын
@@KiwiTheIguana My man 🤝
@keyanklupacs63335 ай бұрын
Eh its all push fit you'l get there. Go prime it and base for now.
@giluna11175 ай бұрын
😊😊😮😊
@LysimedVenteel5 ай бұрын
Same, just for Tyranids. Literally just scrolling through Auspex to see if I had some Tyranid content to watch
@MrFiremagnet5 ай бұрын
I'm stealing that. Sincerely yours, Blood Ravens player
@jonathanbutt1115 ай бұрын
what would you use for blood ravens
@severintw5 ай бұрын
I saw this meme very often. I played Dawn Of War on Pc. And cannot recall this “stealing” being a topic. Where does this come from?
@MrFiremagnet5 ай бұрын
@@severintw DoW2 - half of the Blood Ravens reliquary is originally from other chapters, and even from Custodes. Lore-wise, they are obsessed with seeking knowledge and artifacts, because, in their eyes, literally everything can help them to find info on the unknown primarch (which is probably Magnus).
@severintw5 ай бұрын
@@MrFiremagnet thanks for the clarification. I only played Dawn of War 1, Winter Assault, Dark Crusade and Soulstorm. So there was official lore on top of DoW 2 or is that all fan fiction?
@MrFiremagnet5 ай бұрын
@@severintw yup, pretty much so. Blood Ravens stealing stuff is a fan-canon, but everyone loves it, since it's hilarious and since there is no new DoW sequels and no new Blood Ravens lore.
@realllybadgaming92165 ай бұрын
Having to buy multiple combat patrols PLUS other stuff is still insane to get into a standard game
@ezraho84495 ай бұрын
The fact that people are able to create print ship and sell their own miniatures and still afford to sell them for cheaper than first party miniatures also says a lot about the price point. Most hobbies if you buy third party accessories it raises the price not lowers it.
@randomdude25465 ай бұрын
To be fair combat patrol game format exist where you dont put an army its combat patrol vs combat patrol , but yes 40k is expensive for no reason i agree but also many people get into this just to paint cool miniatures not to play in this case if you are not concerned with making 1,2,3k army size the cost is not that strict
@realgoil4 ай бұрын
@@randomdude2546Combat Patrol is unfortunately not very balanced, it might work for some factions but for most, there will be one faction which is just naturally better. If you want small skirmish combat, you should try out Killteam, where one team costs you ~30 - 60€
@TheOneWayDown4 ай бұрын
you know, airsoft, guns, fencing, and gaming for just a few examples can very quickly get just as expensive as an entry point, so while the plastic is outrageously expensive if you look at it objectively, in terms of hobbies as a whole it really isn't that crazy sure it doesn't work if you have all the hobbies above too like me but that's beside the point
@getthegoons4 ай бұрын
@TheOneWayDown yeah but at least airsoft and fencing can keep you in shape, and guns can defend your home. These are just toy soldiers
@ScFirestorM5 ай бұрын
Re: Custodes: A single Sisters of Silence box comes with enough spare weapons in it to make 15 sisters, 5 of each weapon. So just buy a box of Sororitas Battle Sisters and kitbash the weapons and heads and shoulderpads and whatnot, mixing a few kitbashed Sisters with a few 'pure' Sisters of Silence to make full squads. A Battle Sister box only costs $2.50 more than an SoS box, and comes with 5 more bodies. Re: Death Guard: It's actually possible, if a bit of a pain in the ass, to kitbash the Poxwalker legs and backs with the spare Plague Marine bits to make a full squad of 10 rather than the jank squad of 7. Points need a bit of a rejig with 10 less poxwalkers, but still eminently doable. Re: Drukhari: It's a classic, but take the guys off of the boats and just use them as extra bodies for your squads. A few guys here and there adds up over a bunch of boats.
@LordofSeals4 ай бұрын
Can confirm I made 10 plague Marines, instead of 7, doing exactly this. some bashing, bending and clipping is needed. but cover up the seems with small chains or SprueGlue and it fits perfectly
@Creedlane4 ай бұрын
Taking the guys off the boats also works for Harlequins lol, I got a starweaver, a troupe master and a solitaire out of 1 box
@JonathanFlexx5 ай бұрын
How dare you insinuate that Dark Angels are heretics!? Asmodai is en route to your location, sit tight and praise the emperor.
@brettmal52985 ай бұрын
I came to the comments just to make this point as well 😂😂
@Gajaczek935 ай бұрын
I bought wrath the soul forge king box set and it comes with huge CSM army. Weren't those boxes supposed to feature two armies?
@Feanor20245 ай бұрын
Came here to say the same
@blackfalcon535 ай бұрын
Yes! Praise the corpse emperor!
@RockyX1235 ай бұрын
The Lion after returning: "Yeah, my sons are almost certainly heretics or crazy."
@markberghel2755 ай бұрын
Orks list: One Warboss, 70 Boyz. :D
@Lavendeer2015 ай бұрын
Yup! 'at'll do it!
@FrPeter815 ай бұрын
Dis iz de currekt way ter pley Orks ❤
@doctor8bricks5 ай бұрын
The old combat patrol was much better for starting a general Ork army. The new one is too focussed/narrow.
@boshhh1235 ай бұрын
@@doctor8bricks so glad I got the old one before they stopped selling it.
@davidmorris55613 ай бұрын
Stupendous concept for a video. Clear, Concise, focused, useful, engaging execution. 10/10
@-TheMachineGod-5 ай бұрын
For Thousand Sons, if you want to stretch your Rubricae a little, you can buy a normal box of Rubric Marines and your favorite mark of HH tactical marines, and kitbash them together to get 30 Rubricae for ~$140 instead of the ~$185 it would normally cost
@joelmills43045 ай бұрын
You sir/ma'am have just saved me some money I think
@-TheMachineGod-5 ай бұрын
@@joelmills4304 you will need to get a little creative to get soulreaper cannons, but sergeants are a good replacement for the sorcerers, and if your opponent doesn’t care about your Rubricae being kitbashed they probably won’t be the most strict when it comes to WYSIWYG
@Haph3us5 ай бұрын
Last time I played 40K, it was 4th edition and the Dark Angels just got a codex. You mean to tell you me you can have an army that's just 3 titans??? What a time to be alive.
@Blazieth15 күн бұрын
For me, it was back when the Necrons got their first full Codex (as opposed to merely an article in "Chapter Approved"). 3rd edition. Built and painted some stuff of my own, but got a lot 2nd hand. I was very young, and I am, to this day, _not_ a good painter; which was part of why I went Necrons. They seemed the least complex to paint. I still have most of my old army, including my old Monolith (came with that big 2nd hand batch), though it's starting to fall apart.
@michaelmjb99455 ай бұрын
$120 for 10 jump pack intercessors is criminal
@Klierowski5 ай бұрын
Buy normal ones and print/buy from a frendly printer fly backpacks and F GW.
@hobbybro39025 ай бұрын
Assault intercessors are very reasonable on the secondary market
@craigrobbins24635 ай бұрын
At that price I would literally encourage my opponent to proxy.
@craiglittle37795 ай бұрын
Yeah but they are insane on the tabletop!
@spankkakingu27555 ай бұрын
It is. This is why you don’t buy from gw.
@lurkin_ghost5 ай бұрын
Just a note for anyone looking at this to start a TSons army. a box of rubrics only has 1 staff, 1 icon of flame, and 1 soul reaper cannon so you'll have to do a little bit of kit bashing. Exalted sorcerer box has 6 sets of arms so you can make a rubric into another aspiring sorcerer (or just proxy an exalted sorcerer on foot as an aspiring sorcerer) With a little bit of green stuff you can take one of the extra staff heads to make a 2nd icon of flame. Unfortunately there's no way to get a 2nd soul reaper unless you equip your SoTs with a heavy flamer or just a combi-bolter. So just make the 2nd squad all flamers. Otherwise this is a fantastic starting point for TSons.
@simonlarge205215 күн бұрын
Thanks, I was sitting here wondering if you could make 2 sorcerers and 2 soul reaper cannons out of one box - I was considering it for my CSM
@AxelKonzern5 ай бұрын
ONE STOMPA ONE MEK TWO BIG MEK W/SHOKAA GUNZ FEEL DA WAAAAGH
@Lavendeer2015 ай бұрын
'atll show em!
@CSquaredStopher5 ай бұрын
"Sticking with the heretic Astartes...". Auspex, bro, i felt that!!!
@oldschooldos68505 ай бұрын
Hypothetically lets say you had a 3d printer and could make any kind of 40k-esque models you wanted, would that change how your put together anything for the world eaters or Necrons? I'm leaning into the "pick an army you like for whatever reason you like them" but my overachiever brain enjoys being competitive so it takes me a minute to figure out if I actually like the army or just the idea of it so I've been zooming through first time army content and I like how thoroughly you breakdown how they play mechanically on top of the look at this cool stuff approach. Thank you for the great work!
@Garrette634 ай бұрын
A lot of 3d print models are great, especially from Station Forge, and it is a fraction of the cost of buying GW plastic. The issue is the places you play, a lot of the 40k community aren't okay with 3rd party models, there's definitely some elitism and gatekeeping, and many stores don't allow printed miniatures. There's very much a sentiment of spending a lot of money is the point.
@thatsbrokeАй бұрын
@@Garrette63 then suggest a switch to one page rules, and play what you want in a better system :) I use tau models that i've had for ages for Grimdark Future, but in principle, alternating activation is WAY superior to alternating turns... and i'll mention, takes half the time to play a match.
@chromasus99835 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic video idea, as it is usually how I make hypothetical lists for hypothetical new armies. Always starting from a Combat Patrol and just building towards that first 1k. So, thanks for making it. :)
@8bitbonsai5 ай бұрын
500$ for 1000 points of imperial guard is ridiculous.
@LordCrate-du8zm5 ай бұрын
The future is now, old man.
@RawbeardX5 ай бұрын
care to elaborate why? I have no frame of reference other than "GW be expensive, yo!"
@EliasThury5 ай бұрын
Guard historically hasnt been that much cheaper per model, but were still half the points formpretty much everything. @RawbeardX
@piotrjeske45995 ай бұрын
But my dude what is 500$ comparing to the hobby of collecting trans oceanic yachts or military planes. Even collecting a set of works by a basic XIXth century painter will set you back few hundies for a full collection. My father spent 60k $(bribes included) on a set of revolvers used by Dzierżyński.
@alexanderpippington92775 ай бұрын
@@RawbeardX £500 for what is basically half an army is ridiculous. For bolt action, around £125 is what you need for a full army, for starwars legion about the same, for age of sigmar you can get a full army quite easily for less then £500. Flames of war, black powder, any game by mantic games you would hardly need to cross the £200 for a full army. Frankly it's pathetic, even more so when so many other company's are making sculpts that are just as good for half the price. Not to mention 3D printing
@daaaah_whoosh5 ай бұрын
If you want to do T'au, if you can find the old Combat Patrol it's a great option even alongside the new Combat Patrol. If you get both plus some crisis suits you should be pretty close to 1k points, at about $400.
@AngelofDeath3335 ай бұрын
They shouldn’t have made the Battleforce boxes time exclusive, limited print. Would have been awesome they made them like Combat Patrol with their own rules. Play Battleforce box against a Battleforce box
@thedarkabyssmusicxd5 ай бұрын
No way, another unbalanced 40k game mode!
@AngelofDeath3335 ай бұрын
@@thedarkabyssmusicxd it be actually kind of fun tho
@_Morph1ne_5 ай бұрын
Don’t incentivize GW to make battle forces a worse deal by ‘balancing’ them against each other.
@alltat5 ай бұрын
@@AngelofDeath333 It's fun in theory, but armies work too differently from each other for it to work in practice.
@ninjapirate475 ай бұрын
They used to just be starter sets. And you could pick them up in store, year round. Basing a stupid game mode around it would limit it. I HIGHLY doubt many people play combat patrol and most use it to build armies.
@chriscannon70655 ай бұрын
One thing on the Space Marine Starter…the Terminator Librarian is in the Ultimate Stater set.
@357Dejavu5 ай бұрын
Would have been cool to have a 1000 point list for all 4 mono gods for Deamons.
@karasutenka5 ай бұрын
Would definitely be cool. But probably a fair bit more expensive
@DartmoorAR5 ай бұрын
*immediately skips to admech for the lulz*
@sactus_the_cactus884 ай бұрын
Immediately skips to admech (sobs)
@BeezeYT5 ай бұрын
Just in time for me starting a Black Templar army! Thanks, it's been a real help pointing me in the right direction
@sheadon012 ай бұрын
How does Grimaldus compare to Helbrecht for this list?
@kamakazi3395 ай бұрын
Admech + point increases = still the most expensive army in the game
@carysage5 ай бұрын
I just made a 1000 point army with 2 kits. Chaos Demon Combat Patrol 555 points + 1 Knight Despoiler 430 points and you've got a 985 point Demon army. Give the Bloodmaster his enhancement and you're at 1005. About $300-320 USD.
@Lavendeer2015 ай бұрын
That's a really nice choice. I sometimes wish I would've done that instead of world eaters, but I love my 12th legion 👊💥
@Alino-2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I am returning to the game and honestly I'm a Drukhari fan, have been since I was 12 when I first got into 40k in 2012. And like... I'm also a big Kabal fan. So give me two of those Combat Patrols and we're good to go.
@JeroS.L.4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this incredible guide! It is also important to look at second-hand options, I have gotten my painted imperial knight army for only $180 (although this will vary a lot I suppose depending on each country)
@OniGanon4 ай бұрын
For Sisters I'd probably go for something like 2 Combat Patrols, Novitiates and an Immolator. Convert the second Canoness into a Hospitaller (using Novitiate arm parts) to join the 10 Sacresants, run one squad of Battle Sisters on home objective, one of Dominions split by Immolator. Would cost around USD$485.
@BrysonLeigh5 ай бұрын
When it comes to Death Guard, the way I made the Plague Marine set less painful is using the Biologis Putrifier (with some converting) as my 15th Plague Marine. It results in your only character being Typhus for the time being, but having 3 units of 5 / a 10 and a 5 is a solid way to get around GWs weird box count.
@TemperingFaber35 ай бұрын
I really love the Sororitas army, it's basically what I am running at the moment xD.
@migu_senpai265 ай бұрын
Maaan, wish I saw this video sooner! Already built my first 1k Ultramarines army with the Starter set, some aggressors, assault intercessors, regular intercessors and a chaplain and redemptor dread 😂 Not really optimal I know but I just kinda bought whatever looked cool 😂
@Tac-Tactikus5 ай бұрын
I thought the same. I build my astra militarum army a few months back! Still dont regret my 4 russes and baneblade tho.
@keyanklupacs63335 ай бұрын
Whenever those units come back into the meta you'll be ready though.
@karasutenka5 ай бұрын
"Optimal" means honestly pretty little unless you're really wanting to get into competitive play. Buy and build and play what you think is coolest. That's the point of a hobby game
@lynchthefish21323 ай бұрын
This is how you're supposed to do it anyways. ;)
@svartrbrisingr614110 күн бұрын
Im building my custodes list based purely on the cool factor. To the point I'm throwing hundreds of points to ally in an Imperial Knight even. Because big ass robots are awesome.
@AleksiOsuisse5 ай бұрын
Beloved World eaters, while I am sure Auspex meant no harm, it is very ill-advisable to take 20 zerks without two rhinos and any leaders. For any case, always buy a master of executions and a rhino. If you want to field all Combat Patrol Zerks, get Kharne and a second Rhino. If you want to get some heavy hitters, get some boxes like eightbound, build at least one of each type as Auspex described. If you seek for a budget option for 1k, get wardogs. But please, if you want to field all 20 zerks, get them leaders and rhinos. Quick edit - you can get both MoE and Kharn and use them to lead 5+5 zerks and put both in a rhino.
@steweygrrr5 ай бұрын
I haven't built it yet but I have 3x10 zerks each lead by a MoE all in (deimos pattern with 3d printed World Eaters doors) rhinos, Angry Ron, Kharn and 12 eightbound that I haven't decided how to build yet. That's definitely more than 1k points but I wanted some wiggle room for trying different lists. Any suggestions on what to add to knock it up to 2k?
@auspextactics5 ай бұрын
yes I wasn't really trying to imply it was a good idea in an optimised list - most of these are aimed to be sort of 'building slowly in the general direction of competitive' examples. The world eaters didn't leave a ton of points left over after the initial combat patrol and I figured prioritising a unit of each eightbound variant might initially be better. Would fully agree that with character support and in rhinos is how I'd ideally want to use the Berzerkers.
@AleksiOsuisse5 ай бұрын
Fair Point, I‘ve seen worse lists but you‘re not really going to get good fun out of zerks like this. In the end it’s actually a decent way to get into world eaters and there’s nothing there that’s actually useless. Still zerks without leads and 10 dudes without rhino are gonna suck since a stiff breeze will kill them and you gotta slug them across the board.
@AleksiOsuisse5 ай бұрын
@@steweygrrr some people play two forgefiends. Also war dogs Karnivore, maulerfiends, Chaos Spawn and Jakhals are a safe bet atm if you want some list diversity. Lord invo is important too.
@Fabi-o1u5 ай бұрын
@@AleksiOsuisse Hm I'm building the Christmas battleforce atm, but I'm not the biggest fan of tanks, do you think a list without tanks(with currently 10 zerks) could be somewhat viable? (Doesn't have to be perfectly optimized) I planned to go heavy on eightbounds to fill the battleforce to 1000 or 1500 points
@tsnake66595 ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the hierotek circle for necrons, I’ve been going through my old 9th starter box having a blast and wanted to expand and noticed that kit seemed like a flat discount compared to buying the units separately. Love your content!
@christianmueller76794 ай бұрын
Here is the list sorted by price from lowest to highest: 1. Adeptus Custodes - $288 2. Grey Knights - $336 3. Imperial Knights - $368 4. Aeldari - $362 5. Chaos Knights - $383 6. Thousand Sons - $385 7. Tyranids - $386 8. Imperial Agents - $378 9. World Eaters - $411 10. Space Marines - $413 11. Chaos Daemons - $415 12. Necrons - $420 13. Chaos Space Marines - $422 14. Blood Angels - $407 15. Drukhari - $407 16. Dark Angels - $444 17. Black Templars - $468 18. Space Wolves - $487 19. Death Guard - $488 20. Astra Militarum - $500 21. Genestealer Cults - $512 22. Leagues of Votann - $520 23. Adeptus Sororitas - $531 24. Orks - $539 25. T’au Empire - $554 26. Adeptus Mechanicus - $616
@MDLuffy1234YT3 ай бұрын
My two mains are at the bottom of the list.
@Rat-King27Ай бұрын
I'm looking to start 40k next year, and am surprised at how cheap tyranids are, I always heard they're very expensive.
@Sir_Prize4274 ай бұрын
As an aside to anyone thinking about 40k right now. It may or may not be worth waiting till Christmas. The end of the year box sets usually have some decent contents for the price. That being said your army of choice isn't guaranteed to get a box set, unless you're space marines. Not sure if this point was mentioned in the video as I didn't watch the entire thing but it's worth knowing.
@Shroosk5 ай бұрын
Very interesting exercice. I am mainly interrested in army list that can start with a kill team, go to a boarding action list and combat patrol,list and end in the 1000 pts of 40k army list.
@timunderbakke87565 ай бұрын
Me, a guy with two armies over 2k points, “I wonder what he’s going to recommend for my armies” Also me, “hey I wonder if I should get on those Chaos Knights…”
@mattyorshin5 ай бұрын
Or me with 8k points of tyranids lol. Like you know I could use more monsters lol
@gillian_seed83585 ай бұрын
My starter army is the contents of veterans of the long war plus Vashtorr, knight abominant, Cypher, warp talons, and waiting on my warpforged: obliterators plus venom crawler to round out exactly 2000 points got my codex and data sheet cards and the leviathan book for core rules. Still got quite a bit of painting to do but Vashtorr and the knight abominant are done painted.
@Veregh5 ай бұрын
For most of The Imperium armies you could get 2 pigeons 1 stone. With the knights and new rules from IA codex. 1 box of warglaives ( 300 points) 1 paladin brotherhood of terminators GK (210 requisite unit ) + ANY imperium combat patrol…..and nothing more needed (in some cases you have more points than 1000)
@peterhajdu32725 ай бұрын
Nice video! Another good advice! Thank you! I think, first Ill finish my Astra militarum combat patrol box, a primaris psyker and a heawy weapon squad box, than Ill print and build the papercraft wehicles, after that Ill fullfill the remained bits with 3D printed parts to two shock troop squad and three special weapon team, four heawy weapon squad and two field ordenance battery unit. Its a shame that there is too many bits in the boxes not to use. Cadia will break before the guard will, but Cadia stands!
@McVilla1N5 ай бұрын
Your videos are absolutely amazing man and I really appreciate all the work you put into what you do. Thank you my dude
@wolfyugo5 ай бұрын
This was great. I always am playing a guessing game on what units to focus on
@Sevil7255 ай бұрын
"sticking with the Heretic Astartes..." brilliant
@bret77865 ай бұрын
Excellent content, very helpful information! Thank you!
@langes015 ай бұрын
Just recently been thinking how to expand my Leviathan halve of Nids. Thank you for reading my mind!
@alessandroamici73375 ай бұрын
For Thousand Sons and Dark Angels Thousand sons: i would take Ahriman immidiatley, even at the cost of not using one of the 3 sorcerers, casting doombolt two times (one free thanks to Ahriman once per battle) a the same time in a 1000 points can give you victory Dark Angels: 2 deathwing knights, azrael, 1 x10 hellblasters, 2 x5 infiltrators. Deploy immidiately one of the two knights to shield the hellblasters; no matter what your opponent tries he will never get rid of the knights and you'll keep firing with the hellblasters and farming points with infiltrators
@samuelharmssambamsjm2695 ай бұрын
Great idea! Perhaps as a follow-up, you could explore the idea of doubles play and how to write strong doubles lists?
@Noname-sy3du2 ай бұрын
Me with my unopened Death Company army set: "Hmm, yes. This information is crucual to me yes."
@Приватник-щ5щ5 ай бұрын
39:15 if you buy veterens of long war war box, you will have 890 pt from box. after that you just need buy 1 character miniature
@tehdopefish5 ай бұрын
Veterans of the long war sold out on launch day at all my local stores.
@zakirbakar35405 ай бұрын
Can confirm Back when I was 12, that army, -1 stealth suit squad, was my first ever tau list I only lost most of the time but that was a skill issue as while the riptide is goated My brain is not
@dairewoods25445 ай бұрын
Handy advice for anyone getting Into Tsons. It's easy to take the robed legs (just have to kutnof the back of the torso) from the Exalted sorcerors kit and use a leftover torso from the terminator kit to make a sorceror in terminator armour
@LordCrate-du8zm5 ай бұрын
I have to slightly disagree on that Deathwatch squad composition. Melee focused squads are really good, so just max out thunder hammers, shields+Power Weapon (for additional protection), and Xenophase and then slap them into a Rhino, and you have an extremely effective blender unit.
@LeGoodzilla22 күн бұрын
Just stumbled upon this video as I am interested in starting 40k and deathwatch look cool. I don't see the deathwatch in the chapter selection where are they ?
@cooljoe5005 ай бұрын
jeez, the amount of models you need these days lol
@98765zach5 ай бұрын
The craziest thing is if you max build the Custodes combat patrol, as in, make every captain option that comes in the instructions, you will actually have a nearly PERFECT 1,000 point list after putting in some enhancements
@solvdrage14565 ай бұрын
I see what you did with that transition, Auspex. You thought you were sneaky.
@helljumper_212th73 ай бұрын
I've been into the lore for a while now but just started the model side of things. Wanted to make my own DA successor chapter so I've been eyeing up that combat patrol like crazy. Split the introductory set with someone and been picking up the odd SM unit from the magazine.
@ManiGonzales5 ай бұрын
Nice! Starting aeldari and I was wanting to see a list that’s not a comp list and also not just random units😅
@adamliddle20605 ай бұрын
For the deathguard list you need one battle line unit per squad of pox walkers so you would only be able to use 20 of them
@Naddabeht5 ай бұрын
This is a really cool video. I just got my ultramarines and Tyranids to 2000 with the Leviathan and Starter set. The Space Marines could swap a jump intercessor for assault intercessor for some battle line. The T-fex and exocrine for Tyranids is scary at 1000. The hive tyrant can also get a 3D print body and get a winged version to add a jump to 2000 points.
@IOSALive5 ай бұрын
Auspex Tactics, cool video my guy
@Dram19845 ай бұрын
It's amazing how large 40k armies have gotten. I recently got back in and pointed up my old 2e/3e armies and they are absolutely tiny. A tactical squad in 2e was 300 points before any wargear, now you get intercessors for 160.
@EruCoolGuy5 ай бұрын
Same model count too ? That's harsh...
@Dram19845 ай бұрын
@@EruCoolGuy Yep. 10 marines. It wasn’t hard to get a tactical squad up around 400 points depending on loadout and wargear. It made the game much more skirmish like.
@DashCamSheffield5 ай бұрын
in 3rd/4th my old 1k tau army had 30 fire warriors.....or Strike Team now.... 300pts for 30 models with just pulse rifles. Now, that same 30 models is 225, with 2 drones per squad, with suppression, and a missile turret per squad. Even had 2 65pt crisis suits with plasma, missile and tracker, but now you get 3 crisis fireknife for 130pts. going by those examples only, everything is about a third cheaper
@Jarlballin1235 ай бұрын
More of a reason to prefer older editions, 40k isn’t made for hundreds of models. It was so much better with just one carry case and not needing 2 vans and a freight truck to transport half your horde army to your local store
@Dram19845 ай бұрын
@@DashCamSheffield my Space Wolves got hit the worst. It’s basically half.
@JustNinjАй бұрын
Would love to see you do this with 2000 point lists using these lists as reference or doing it straight from CP
@Steve_KeenАй бұрын
Small correction: You have the Terminator Librarian in the Space Marine list, but it's not included in the 40k starter set, so its cost would need to be added to the list of kits.
@EruCoolGuy5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the grey knights patrolmaxxing.
@Lavendeer2015 ай бұрын
I wish this video was out when I started! This is great and definitely will help some new players
@codypedersen552 ай бұрын
As always, your videos are perfect for beginners and veterans in the Hobby!
@AScruffyHamster3 ай бұрын
I started back up after 15 years. I'm going Tau as I used to play them in 08/09. Starting with the combat patrol and the kroot army box, also purchased farsight. Just need a broadside and some crisis suits and I'll be at 995 pts
@me62145 ай бұрын
Fun fact, Stormboyz boxes don't include power klaws so you have to bash one on from a different kit which can be difficult because you usually want to build with a power klaw if you have one.
@toyos69695 ай бұрын
Imperial knights are funny man, its like when they release that secret boss character into the regular roster for the sequel. So visually over the top
@ThePageofRage5 ай бұрын
Wow, that was pretty much how I built my World Eaters! And then I added a Helbrute, Deamon Prince and 2 Chaos Spawn to boot
@gundamassassin2415 ай бұрын
Literally looking for something like this last night lol
@dittmar1045 ай бұрын
For the first list you can always go spearhead to get lone op on one of the terminator characters. A lone op with deep strike is huge for secondaries.
@michael834795 ай бұрын
That LoV list is pretty similar to the one I got to start with. My only change is instead of the HLF I have an extra sag and extra bikes!
@moongurd207 күн бұрын
I remember when i bought my first army but it was second hand. it was around 2500pts in 7th edition and i got it for around 240 euros. That feels like a dream to find anything like it now...
@AdrianWilliams-sv2pm5 ай бұрын
Element games giving no discount on the blood army set
@Jason-gq8fo5 ай бұрын
They’ve been doing that a lot lately. Not the best uk shop
@windowwatcher40445 ай бұрын
@@Jason-gq8fo I've always found waylands gives alot better discount
@OutriderPaints5 ай бұрын
Goblin Gaming are great 👍
@Jalexlaw5 ай бұрын
Interesting at 10:00 when launched they were selling it for £116, about an hour later had gone to 124 and you're right now it's up to GW price of 145 Wonder if they changed based on demand
@scoober13765 ай бұрын
@@Jalexlaw Can confirm, Got mine for £116 from Element as soon as it launched. I get them putting the price up once all the other online places are sold out - don't like it but it makes business sense - I don't understand why they wouldn't offer at least some discount over GW prices tho. As far as I can see the only reason you'd buy the box from them rather than GW right now is for the crystals (store credit)?
@thefloatingcontinent98975 ай бұрын
Damn, this vid took some effort. From someone just starting out, much appreciated, man
@Teddybomb5 ай бұрын
correction, when discussing the Black templars, you mention the impulsor having 6 seats. it has 7, enough for 5 swobros, HMH and an LT.
@KaratePath5 ай бұрын
The Ork Combat Patrol + the Stompa Boyz (My local WH40k shop, still got one at €172) seems like quite a nice way to get to 2k pretty easily, should just add Ghazgkull Drakka and pretty much set for my secondary army with Ork ... May add a Deff Dread or Meganobz (Although completely meme because of the Stompa being a whopping 800 points, lol)
@RAINBOWBEARMAN5 ай бұрын
I got the introduction set. not much I know. but it was a gift. I was going to go custodes but thinking maybe nids or some kind of space marine just to use the box and not let it go to waste. not sure which
@mangohub32525 ай бұрын
Votann best army can’t wait for wave 2
@Jason-gq8fo5 ай бұрын
Hell yeah kin, for the ancestors!
@misterglo13945 ай бұрын
I’ve been praying to the ancestors daily up until the lvo
@mangohub32525 ай бұрын
@@misterglo1394 they’ll tell us at nova, at least we got the book
@thinkabouthelogic5 ай бұрын
@@mangohub3252 what book?
@mangohub32525 ай бұрын
@@thinkabouthelogic they’ve shown off the first votann novel, and its special edition The name is “the high Kahls oath” I think
@vintageswiss909615 күн бұрын
Necrons: Hypercrypt Legion and add a Szeras for lone op. Literally that's your 1000pt army. You get an overlord with Trans Shroud to move the Lychguard, a Void Dragon because its a freakin Void Dragon, and Szeras can do funny stuff giving OC1 to scarabs from 3" behind cover while nuking a character from 36" away...
@anneliseolsen68965 ай бұрын
Personally, for 1000 points armies based on the Combat Patrol boxes plus additions, here Husband has made a 1000 points army for Lovely Wife. It consists of the following: Gladius Task Force. 1x Terminator Captain (storm bolter, relic blade, Warlord, The Honour Vehement), 1x Terminator Librarian (storm bolter, force axe), 1x Lieutenant (bolter/bolt rifle, heavy bolt pistol, power fist, Fire Discipline) 1x5 Intercessors (5x bolt rifles, Astartes grenade launcher, power sword for the Sergeant), 1x5 Hellblasters (plasma pistol on the Sergeant), 1x5 Infernus Marines, 1x5 Sternguard Veterans (5x Sternguard bolt rifles, power sword on the Sergeant), 1x5 Terminators (easy to build squad), 1x5 Terminators (5x power fists, assault cannon). For a total of 995 points. The idea is that the Lt joins the Sternguard to make them even more dangerous, and the Terminators go do whatever Lovely Wife wants them to do. She is scarily good at getting the most out of what she calls "Cow-minators" (because of the helmet). The current OpFor for the Marines above? A Tyranids Invasion Fleet. 1x Winged Tyranid Prime (Warlord, Perfectly Adapted), 2x20 Termagants with Fleshborers, 1x5 Barbgaunts, 2x3 Von Ryan's Leapers, 1x3 melee Warriors, 2x2 Ripper Swarms, 2x1 Psychophage, 1x Carnifex "OG/Discount Screamer-Killer" (2x scything talons, bio-plasma, spine banks).Total points: 995. This army is literally just the Tyranids contents of the Starter Set, and Ultimate Starter Set, with a box of Warriors, and a single Carnifex added.
@carysage5 ай бұрын
You have some anti-synergy there with your Lt and Sternguard. Sterns have easy access to devastating wounds but you can't get them if you scored a lethal hit because of your Lt .
@anneliseolsen68965 ай бұрын
The Lieutenant has the Fire Discipline enhancement for the exploding 6s on the to hit. Those additional hit dice aren't affected by Lethal Hits, but have to be rolled to see if they wound. At least if I remember correctly re: the FAQ and Errata documents.
@carysage5 ай бұрын
@@anneliseolsen6896 oh nice! I didn't think of that.
@ichibunii29 күн бұрын
Would it be a good idea to make a couple 1000pt armies and see how u like them before going all in in a 2000pt army
@oliver_the_sadgit34795 ай бұрын
Might be doing it wrong but building the Space Marines and I’m unable to fit two jump pack intercessors, as it goes over the points fresh hold.
@Sunmourn3 ай бұрын
The deathguard combat patrol poxwalker sprues all come with half of a plague marine, with all the extra pieces you get in the plague marine sprue, you can easily have 10 plague marines out of your Combat Patrol, with just a lil bit of hobby work.
@mathiasschulze61485 ай бұрын
I am really happy with my Dark Angels so far. The old Combat patrol was nice, I love the Redemptor Dread. The Deathing Knights are awesome and the characters have style. Only the Innercircle Companions are really stupid expensive....but they are great models
@mattseman56823 ай бұрын
While they're a new army I don't know a lot about, I am highly intrigued by the Imperial Agents list here, and the proposed upgrades. Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Inquisitors, Rogue Traders, and Canis Rex all in one army sounds like great fun. Can anyone provide any insights?
@daangoes1215 ай бұрын
For my death guard brethren; Read the buried dagger, its a good book (but skip the knight-errant bits) P.S you can quite easily kitbash the death guard combat patrol into 10 plague marines, using the backs on the poxwalker sprues
@hannahw33644 ай бұрын
Since getting in to Sisters, so far I have 1260 points, got the 2021 Combat Patrol with a separate box of a Sisters Squad which I built Dominion as well as Celestine, Morvenn Vahl, Paragon suits and a Palatine but at this point I don't know what way to lean in to.
@lorcan7315 ай бұрын
Drukhari was my exact list when I started lol
@nitemare1075 ай бұрын
You could save $60 on the Imperial Agents list if you spend $336 on Grey Knights, since their second combat patrol has a spare Termi squad. That's nearly -$300 in savings!
@EdgarClay5 ай бұрын
For marines I run salamanders. I cant help but run Hellblasters though, i love the idea of plasma. I probably could just do a more tanky melee army. Then I have necrons. Most of my army is 3rd edition. So swarms of necron warriors with some support was thw plan.(60 warriors, reanimation stuff, some support, is the way)
@klizzarddddddddddddd4 ай бұрын
I'm getting into Warhammer right now, just painted my 15 piece starter kit of marines and tyranids. I'm going straight for ad mech now
@xannymanny9754Ай бұрын
I went from to starter kit straight to Thousand Sons, and considering Ad-Mech is considered more difficult than Thousand Sons all I gotta say is good fuckin luck lmao. I do wish to get a Mechanicus army down the line tho
@josdijkstra59375 ай бұрын
I really like this idea ! Thank you
@onlyforcomments77605 ай бұрын
Built my mechanicus army for less than 500. I think it only cost me low 400ish dollars. However, I didn't pick up either dunecrawler or the dunerider or the ironstriders. I went heavy infantry instead, got kastelan robots, and Belisarius Cawl because he's awesome. I essentially made a 1700s firing line army with cavalry lol
@lupercal19845 ай бұрын
Blood Angels- "some angry close combat Space Marines." Next, Black Templars "some other angry close combat Space Marines." Next, Space Wolves, "yet another army of angry close combat Space Marines."
@Grubnar5 ай бұрын
Ah, yes. But they are all angry for different reasons, you see!
@concrescience36425 ай бұрын
*stares at my Kroot hunting packs* ..What about Kroot?
@matthewrappold14595 ай бұрын
Can possibly go Solar Auxilia Box as a Gaurd alternative. Not sure what you would use the big transport for but I’m sure you could use it as some proxied FW unit
@lieutax5 ай бұрын
One good reason to bring Morty in a 1k list is pair him with a lord of contagion with deathly pathogen on him, and 6 deathshroud. Get Morty to be a big bullet sponge on no mans land and and rapid ingress the loc and deathshroud on whatever enemy unit is causing the most problems or you feel the NEED to kill, and literally incinerate them. If they’re within 6” of Morty you can give them benefit of cover to ensure maximum chance of survival in case of like another dreadnought or termis around then still and deathly pathogen gives the loc +2 attacks and strength if within range of an infected objective which Morty will be holding. Kind of dependent on the enemy being relatively close, but is basically an alt+f4 on anything less then an imperial or chaos knight. Could bring typhus in place of loc but I prefer loc in this combo for the higher dmg potential with deathly pathogen + the reroll melee hit rolls for all the deathshroud and himself His melee is equivalent with typhus with deathly pathogen’s baseline +1 atk and str
@Eniclac5 ай бұрын
You should also do a 1000 points for each of the Space marine sub detachments, as their play style is widely different.
@raphaelbracco26185 ай бұрын
Great video, even helpful for veterans wanting to make a new army!
@OrkishEngineering17 күн бұрын
my 1000 point dark angels army is: 1x jump pack captian 2x5 intercessors 2x5 hellblasters 1x5 deathwing terminators 1x5 jump pack intercessors 1x5 incursors 1x brutalis dreadnought ( though it could be swapped with a gladiator. ) ive got a repulsor too, was thinking of swapping out the intercessors with assault intercessors ( for flavor ) and brutalis dread with repulsor.