One of the Biggest Challenges in Deep Realization

[@moreinnerpeace]

I appreciate this and other videos you have done talking about not neglecting the relative. The non dual realization has hit really hard and suddenly lately. Very different from earlier experiences. There is no un-seeing this. Total immersion and holy shit, there's no witness, nothing and no one separate from this. Thoughts can point to nihilism, but they are just seen as thoughts thanks to your pointing. I am actually seeing an incredible gratitude and poignancy and beauty in the relative. It's paradoxically both deeply meaningful and meaningless at the same time. Makes no sense intellectually. But to love my wife, kids, friends feels energetically right and beautiful. There is beauty and grief together. Anything I used to hold onto as solace, like God, the soul, the afterlife was just believing thoughts to avoid this. So there is both a sense of loss and a recognition that nothing is actually lost. And the sense of a death of the self when there never was one!

[@manyandone]

Once saw my life like movie clips but once again, just an experience. 😂❤

[@manso306]

It's so weird, this makes 100% intuitive sense to me, but it's not experienced and feels entirely conceptual. I'm like "of course, how could it be any other way!" but maybe I'm just buying way too intensely into thought? To the point of not recognizing thought as such at all? But it feels so clear, so true, even though experience isn't like this. What the hell is going on?

[@jmach1427]

Trust intuition. You can always note a thought and come back to awareness/breath/center. I've found that when I have those deep "oh wow this is resonating so deep it's so true!" I then note that as another thought/experience and come back to center. And usually I laugh. Because the "me" that was so excited about "getting it" was just another thought all along! It's a fun circle that I'm in right now. And it just keeps going deeper.

[@renko9067]

🙏It’s so funny you post this bc continuity is a word I’ve thought of a lot lately as it’s clear that it is a perception filter, and while I almost always experience people and things passing or going out of vision as completely vanishing to nowhere (lately that has felt disorienting), the continuity of most objects makes them seem solid or stable, or present in time. 🙏

[@georgeshepherd3381]

Rwmembering Semi Sonic song "closing Time"..."every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end.'

[@Robert85364]

Angelo, how do you plan your day, things to do? It's something that seems to lose meaning outside the "narrative world". Is there a functional and a stupid way to do this?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

Not sure it’s helpful to hear but it just plans itself. Or things just happen naturally in the present. Natural appearing right on time

[@thenightbladefeeds]

The way that I've deconstructed the illusion of time is this: We only perceive a sense of time passing because of the cycle of the planets around the Sun, which is why we perceive day and night. Our circadian rhythm is based around this. Now, as humans we also need sleep - and because of this we perceive a "break" in time. But the planet keeps spinning and events keep (apparently) happening. It's not like everything "turns off" when we are sleeping. There is no break in time, because there is no time. If, theoretically, an android was created that didn't need sleep and had a neverending source of power, it would perceive "time" as one thing. There would be no days. I guess you could say it would feel like one neverending instance. Idk, maybe I'm missing something. Obviously this is all conceptual, but I've had that idea for (what has been perceived as) years.

[@georgesonm1774]

Nah, I feel like it's the movement/change we see around us which prompts the mind to compartmentalize experience into chunks; definable, separate moments - that said, I can't imagine functioning otherwise, unless - simply being aware all the time, regardless of the changes around/within the field of attention - so that experience is fundamentally non-discreet. Then it's just one eternal chunk of time - kind of as with the android example, but it's not only about sleep, at least that's my understanding (do I experience it that way? I don't think so, once in a while maybe?)

[@georgesonm1774]

Btw: funny, I'm watching the video now and apparently this (what I've mentioned) is exactly NOT the point xd

[@Lulubear0304]

At the bottom of the well of grief…. It is clear and shiny, my tears are absorbed by the cool water, which soothes my tired and weary soul . 🙏🏽 thank you

[@Jhawk_2k]

You continue to transmit powerfully, there are these "mini-glimpses" opening constantly while listening to this (and while I'm just going about my day). I may not have realized these things deeply, but there is some indescribable sense that what you're pointing towards is possible for me (and already here)

[@Jhawk_2k]

And thank you for talking about continuing to work with the rest of life, that's whats been most liberating recently. Actually enjoying being at the office and learning more now!

[@liviuclipa]

Well you triggered my fear.

[@yasminel-hakim4348]

Thank you so much Angelo for your helpful videos. Especially those one pointed approaches like who or where are you. This one is for deeper realized, but I’m profiting from it right now. Just dropping more and more often into direct experience although the direct experience with body sensations is still a challenge for the subtle thoughts still connect the sensations with an image of the body parts. But working on this. Seeing and hearing is much easier and very joyful. Just dropping and having faith ❤️ 🙏

[@4991544]

If reality is replaced by another reality, what is the experience we call memory? How is there a sense that something was prior to the current reality?

[@georgesonm1774]

Perhaps memory is like playing digital audio - recreates whole shapes from tiny bits of experience registered prior. Possibly even reshapes them if there are gaps or vague points, according to present thought/interpretation? I've heard somewhere that there are studies showing that people 'remembering' things which have only been suggested but hadn't actually happened is quite a common phenomenon

[@Moleshaveeyes]

Also, this sounds like a prison, how is this better than being in delusion? Maybe it isn’t

[@Moleshaveeyes]

How would you even function with non-continuity? Every single decision would feel like imposing a will and therefor resisting? Sounds terrifying

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

Def not a prison, but I can see how thought would perceive that

[@Morgan313]

I don’t take it literally, but I use the model of a video game, a MMORPG called The Wheels of Samsara (TM). If you think that’s trippy, ponder on the question, “who is the player?”

[@debbiemiller163]

Watching this stirs the pot very uncomfortably!! As it seems do several of them of late. The ‘knowing’ that all is perfect in the unborn is all I have left to support being with that. I’m very grateful for these compassionate pointings ❤

[@stephenvankleeck4801]

I love the comment on holding the relative in the awakening state. A.H. Almaas says, “There is no non-dual state without the dualistic.”

[@Moleshaveeyes]

Why does resistance become so painful?? This is so strange. All of what we do is react, and resist against what is, every creative act is like rebellion, even making videos about enlightenment is resisting that people are not awake. What is resistance and why is that specifically more painful. Because in such a totality wouldn’t resistance itself be included, so resistance would be also part of a seamless whole, but it isn’t?

[@arturwarzecha5664]

From "Cracking the Walnut" which I started reading yesterday: "It is a mistake to say that there is going during the time of going. Without going, how could the time of going go by itself? When we look at the flame carefully, we see that it does not really arrive. In the idea of arriving there must be something arriving, and if we say that there is something arriving it means that it already existed before arriving. If it already existed, it does not need to come into being. We learned this in the last chapter: If the effect is already present in the conditions, it does not need to arise anymore. In this chapter, Nāgārjuna is not using the word “arise” but rather the word “arrive.”’ If there is arriving, there must be something arriving! If there isn’t a subject of the verb, how can there be the verb? If there isn’t a cloud, how can there be floating? And if there isn’t a flower, how can there be blooming? Thus the idea of arriving is unreasonable unless there is something arriving."

[@billbadiha9836]

An apparent arriving perhaps.

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@billbadiha9836 yeah if a word is spoken or written it can be shown to be errant 😂 Anyone deconstructing Nagarjuna is a bit overzealous 😂

[@billbadiha9836]

Yes reading between the words can prove fruitful 😂

[@LeftTheMatrix]

11:00 more than enough… ❤ Just embrace and trust the unfolding. SO difficult for mind, but herein lies the peace and gratitude if we can just take this leap into the brilliant unknown. Love this video! I’m noticing how much more energy is available when resistance and overthinking drops away. Thank you from the bottom of my ❤ for all you do Angelo.

[@AshleyStuart]

I was giggling a few times during this because as this whole thing continues to deepen (I have no idea what that means), there’s something that totally is able to understand what you’re pointing at between the words. One of them was when you pointed out that you will never adjust to this. A thought also came to mind, I wonder if this is just one of the reasons why this all feels so weird. 😂

[@carriesewell3460]

Whoa, this feels like a free fall, opening, opening, opening.

[@shiningoutlight]

Ego loves the search. I found that being with a teacher who's ego was surrendered to beingness opened me up to beingness, oneness. That wasn't the end of "my story", but an awakening. I found on KZbin, that Hale Dwason offers this experience.

[@SimplyAwakeLLC]

Jeez Angelo, this is just brilliant. The awareness inseparable from the sense-fields blinks into and out of existence with them, new every moment. At first made me dizzy and nauseated.....whoa the world dissolves....and, of course it does. Awesome!

[@merrymary2944]

Oh, this loss of any continuity of a point of view or reference point from which to view the world...this might explain why random objects have been appearing and disappearing in my world for the last several years

[@chinchilla_462]

The smallest distinction, sets heaven and earth infinitely apart..

[@suzannekamminbaron]

This is so great and incredibly helpful, Angelo. Just what I needed to hear. Thank you!

[@shiningoutlight]

My experience in beingness is embracing of all perceptions that are realized, thus there is an integration of experience,... alignment. Seems to be a slow process for the me. ANd, this is a conversation that could not be understood by most humans, so this awareness of beingness is, let us say, at this point in human consciousness, rare, and to the unaware, of "God" playing hide and seek.

[@thomasweiler1680]

Amazing. I knew something was wrong with the concept of impermanence

[@instantjp]

Angelo, do you think this (what you are talking about here and maybe the progression of awakening itself) occurs because thoughts begin to have less and less "weight"? An initial shift seems to rebalance experience in a way where thought is no longer the centerpiece - then you start to see more and more how thought was holding the whole thing together - leading to even less "weight".

[@TD-nn4fu]

I don't like to call it "Mind" anymore. It is all parts and parcel of what "is" and so embracing the mind, is the only way out. Mind is not the enemy here. Even the resistance to mind in also the Devine Play!!

[@starryamity33]

Exactly, there is no differentiation when everything is all one, a singularity. Everything includes nothing and nothing is something we are unable to mentally conceptualise _(which is not merely darkness because darkness is still something, a property/value we sense, rather than nothing at all),_ yet it is where all thingness seems to stem from. We pull ideas from nothing, which is intuition. Negativity is minimised states of love and positivity is maximised states of love. Love is the realness attribute, the unique quality of experiencing beyond words, beyond qualia which is an abstraction of reality based in our senses themselves being a limited individual perception. Love is neither good nor bad, it is both. Good and evil does not exist, merely awareness and ignorance, or consciousness and subconsciousness.

[@HiluT]

I was waiting for this message for the entire bubbles of my life ❤😂Thank you for the direct message ❤

[@cheriemiller669]

Extremely helpful. Thank you, Angelo. I find myself confused lately. It's good to be reminded to trust the process❤

[@georgeshepherd3381]

Do chickens use eggs to reproduce or do eggs use chickens to repeoduce?

[@pjd27p84]

❤ how long is forever? Sometimes just one second 😉

[@jonahbranch5625]

I'd say I still have a sense of self, but something funny happened a few days ago. For years I've been telling myself to just "let go" and to "trust reality", and it doesn't really work. Then recently I asked myself, how would I "decide" to let go anyways? Is that really something I can do? It doesn't seem possible but this whole time I assumed I just wasn't very good at it haha.

[@billbadiha9836]

Can you talk about cause and effect and why actions have consequences for example if I was to commit a serious crime today I might find myself in prison tomorrow.

[@demogadget]

A better translation of advaita vedanta is non secondness.

[@Matt_Parks]

Four weeks ago I took a hit of the “non-dual psychedelic”, Bufo. It was the first and only time I’ve done it. What “I” experienced was completely beyond anything I could’ve imagined. Everything was nothing, including me. Yet somehow there was a sense of deep peace. Angelo - any chance you’d take a hit of 5 MEO for us and tell us how it compares to sober awakening? It’s only a 20 minute journey :)

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

😂. I’ll show you something better than that experience , realization of Anatta 👀

[@Matt_Parks]

Just consider comparing for us if you get the opportunity :). Anytime the sense of “I” would appear, it was deeply disturbed that there was nothing. No past. No future. No stories for a “me” to attach to. It was bit haunting actually… at least to any remaining ego attachment in me. Thankfully anytime “I” would let go of any resistance to it, it was just peaceful bliss nothingness (if I had to use words). It was the most clear-minded psychedelic I’ve ever done, and back to normal in 20 minutes.

[@michaelthemind]

After 15 years of trying to wake up. Not even the slightest shift . I'm beginning to wonder if this stuff is just intellectual . I don't think so, its just me and millions of others .

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

Have you worked 1:1 with a non-dual facilitator? Have you been to an in person retreat?

[@michaelthemind]

@@SimplyAlwaysAwake where I live in the north east of England there's nothing happening . ive been to a meditation group of 6 people. And ive studied your book. Plus im 67 now , so i don't have a lot of years left , lol.

[@LeftTheMatrix]

Helen Hamilton is in northeastern England…

[@michaelthemind]

@@LeftTheMatrix Thanks . I will try to find her .

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@michaelthemindoh ok I see. Well almost all non-dual facilitation now is done online, through zoom etc. I’ve worked with many over text and they’ve woken up. So you don’t have to be in physical vicinity. Also is travel possible to retreat? If not I have online retreats as well. I think these ways will get you the “leverage” you need to break out of that pattern. Really depends how much fire you want to put underneath yourself.

[@philipp176]

It’s paradoxical to talk about a glimpse of this that happened in the „past“, but here we go: I was on a 6 hrs car ride and suddenly time stopped. Timelessness was so clear, there was nothing moving to anything. Driving with 80 mph yet no movement or destination. It was so terrifying, thoughts like „there is no way to escape this eternal moment“ made it very uncomfortable 😂

[@Moleshaveeyes]

Completely don’t understand this one

[@Moleshaveeyes]

Oh ok I’m scared too

[@Moleshaveeyes]

I remember Sartre talking about something like this (though conceptually). That for anything to change, time must move from point A to B and between those two points there must be a gap made of Nothing

[@louisevs9152]

Thank you Angelo, for yet another exquisite pointing. It's happening and your pointing brings some extra clarity.

[@franciscazanoguera189]

I'd like a bit more clarification around what you mean when you say "a whole new universe is created". I had a glimpse of what you're describing, but only one "scene" was seen, and now the mind wants to know how different scenes come to being and whether they can be related. For example, does a memory in one scene refer to content in another scene, or not?. My understanding from what you are saying is that the answer is "no", meaning the current scene is the only one where my character appears and any memory appearing now referring to the story of the character is made up on the spot and does not refer to any other "moment", but maybe it's not as radical? It seems important because when I think of it in the more radical way, although it's terrifying, it also creates a sense of energetic unbinding. The other thought that comes to mind is that in one scene there may be clear seeing, but then the clarity may not be carried from one scene to the next, in which case all these efforts to wake up seem kind of hopeless (but also choiceless, I guess). Thanks for tackling this tricky topic, I very much appreciate it.

[@awall2392]

I call it *snap *crackle *pop* 😄

[@manyandone]

Would love to hear how the non continuity occured within you..was it in an instant and can you embellish, I’m riveted!!

[@Tom_Torres]

@19.42 ... "... and not neglecting or negating the conventional. tha can also be hard... at the same time there is no need to negate the relative world..." super helpful pointing ❤

[@demogadget]

this was a good one!

[@spocksdaughter9641]

A...can you tell me what my reaction/sense =to feel spookie because I Understand what is being explained?? I really am confused. I am as 'far as' sic... sometimes 'foating' sort of the here but Not really. The contrasts are killing me A did I want to understand?? Is this all leading to eventually share some cool Aid? I feel like Fish on a velvet hook.

[@mattpallett1]

Your clarity is astonishing

[@YannickHeym]

Love it, Angelo! I was just considering yesterday (reading someone else's comment) that the perception of time or change is necessarily tied to the belief in a real observer or unchanging background. This is clear for me experientially but it's nice to also recognize this on the cognitive level :)

[@manyandone]

In my experience the point of view is malleable, during a kensho, for 30 seconds(?) I viewed myself from above as the pure “i am” and I had no control of this shift. Is full awakening when you don’t “pop” back in? I’ll have this question until I don’t ❤

[@manyandone]

And yah I saw there absolutely without a doubt was a “me” but I wasn’t what I thought, I was not the body at all, but… ❤just would plum love your thoughts on this❤

[@davidtrindle6473]

Does this mean that discomfort (= suffering=resistance) is a gift when seen as an arising in consciousness that draws attention to the pure sensation that is nondual reality, while drawing attention away from conceptualizing strategies to avoid the suffering?

[@maloryhope6075]

Thank you for everything, Angelo ❤

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

You are so welcome

[@narand.9012]

Wow! 🔥🔥🔥

[@alfreddifeo9642]

❤🙏☮♾ Beautifully said heard. Thought comes to label it. now forever forever now.

[@Amorcomacento]

In one moment, It feels like just contraction, no expansion, creates lot of resistance. A bit sticky :)

[@prueevans8558]

This has the flavour of the Diamond Sutta

[@georgesonm1774]

Thanks for making that aside, underlining the importance of the relative, as in, creating healthy habits, getting comfortable with baseline functioning, managing tasks, creating healthy relationships etc. I'm guessing that's where the shadow work/ trauma release stuff, as well as physical grounding become really useful, right? Also, more or less conventional psychology (as in therapy / the paradigm of Maslow's pyramid of needs and so on)? Re the state you're describing - sounds scary af, reminds me of an intense (bad?) LSD trip. Also, not sure if this is related in any way, but I've had a few bad pot experiences when reality seemed to be flashing in and out of existence, like a strobe light. I was still there, as a witness. It's quite possible that I literally shat my (relative) pants

[@oneom8158]

Yes, all of this sharing speaks clearly, though, this would not have been so clear just a moment ago, it seam's, yet it is indeed all the clarity that was once looked for, yet, now, looked from, looked as, but no looker, not even looking, just being, without a beyer. Thank you Angel o 💙

[@Mychannel28901]

When you said someone who has the tendency to avoid should work on their life, a panic came over me. I am afraid of the story of my life. There is so much resistance i wouldn’t know where to start - i dont want to. Its unbearable; all this doubt and these teachings helped me reveal that doubt and finally all this discomfort made sense. i feel lost and confused but i am willing to investigate those things that come with emotional reactions and fear, but dont want to „go“ into the story of my life, the story of my suffering and my failure as a person. The story of the one who needs to try and build systems to try to succeed in life to try to manage that neverending story of disappointments. What to do now?

[@robanderson1706]

Wow. Nice

[@thanelewis4675]

thanks for tackling this; it helps to bridge any perceived gap between you and the uncompnondualists and is also the antidote to that approach in its willingness to try to meet us where we are and to give us compassionate context

[@darkcylander]

negating the relative and the feeling like it might be counterproductive to you spiritually if you don't would be a great video for a future date. or just a video about what relativity means spiritually.

[@Moleshaveeyes]

Well whatever, I’ll fuck around and find out

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

That's the Spirit! What's the worst that could happen??

[@georgeshepherd3381]

Endings and beginnings.. fluctuations in a contuum

[@ListenToSleep]

No there. No you. Nowhere to go. So there you go! 🤗💖🌈

[@stargirl9551]

This is exactly what I'm going through. Just several hours ago, I wrote in my journal "My life just feels like musical chairs now. I've always HATED musical chairs." It's like each chair is a different reality. And you never know what reality you're going to find yourself in when the music stops. And as soon as you think you can get comfortable in that reality, the music starts up again and you gotta move. 😩 But it's not even like there's a you that's going from chair to chair. It's musical chairs but with only the chairs and no you. I've experienced a lot of grief in coming to terms with naturelessness. Thank you for the encouragement and for telling me what I needed to hear.

[@georgesonm1774]

I can relate to 'musical chairs' :D how's it going now?

[@stargirl9551]

@@georgesonm1774 I don't even know how to answer this question. 😅😆 My mind is just drawing a blank! Haha. If I really think about it, I would say I no longer experience those jarring discontinuities. I think the identity structures in me that were based on the idea of continuity were rooted out. I actually had the no-self realization since I wrote that comment. Have I just committed a faux-pas by claiming that? 😅😂BUT ANYWAY. The appearances of life are random and without meaning, but without having to fit them into a personal, linear narrative, the randomness and absence of meaning are just "normal". Although, if I woke up as a rooster or something tomorrow, I'm pretty sure I would be like "What the hell!?!" Or maybe not. Maybe I would just be living my best rooster life. 😁🙃

[@lynlavalight]

Impermanence is impermanent 😅

[@davidtrindle6473]

Beautiful.

[@gentleeventful]

For some reason this makes me think that the physics idea of multi-universes instead of them being separate universes. Fluctuates for all of the possibilities universes and resets a new one. We must be very honored creatures indeed if we are able to even get a glimpse of our true nature fluctuating and experiencing the nature of the universe is fluctuation. Not well said by me but this is really awesome! Thank you!.

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

Check out the series Devs if you haven’t. It’s really good and deals with the Everett interpretation of HUP

[@gentleeventful]

I have not seen the series but I shall take a look at I do believe in the stochasticity of the universe and not deterministic. but that is just a thought​@@SimplyAlwaysAwake

[@georgeshepherd3381]

Beginning after ending... Is continuous ..

[@mariacristinamahilum572]

Thank you so much Angelo.

[@moryashort1658]

❤getting quite exciting 🎉thank u

[@pavelpavel8413]

Thumbnail is on fire

[@silentsabbath]

I have no idea what stage I am in, but I keep noticing I am not gelling with any concept of time as I (used to) know it (sometimes). I feel like I don't know who the person is in the memories that do come up, but also that my memory for specific "past" events is somehow muddied. in fact, they don't seem to exist at all. it's not that they are fleeting, but that they are not important - or the idea of fixing them in time is unimportant. and then I find myself confused, but then sometimes I find myself quite fine (deeply ok - I love that term and I think I got it "from" you) with it and find myself laughing about it all. it's so strange. and surreal. and wonderful. and scary. and everything else. thanks, Angelo.

[@silentsabbath]

I also have this sense that time stops. or that it slows down. when I try to make sense of it, it seems like I've been somewhere else for awhile, but then I realize there's nowhere else to be but here. but I don't know what here is. until I do. and then it doesn't have to make sense. (and when I read that back it's hilarious because it also doesn't make sense. but it does.)

[@silentsabbath]

the uncomfortable part for me is when I think "oh what if I miss [insert linear time event here]" but so far I haven't. and I think that's because it's maybe impossible to miss them? but I don't know why I think that.

[@tom_see]

I love love loved this video... So good. It's coming through a lot here, really.

[@lynlavalight]

Pralaya?

[@SJ_Waves]

Does psyadelic 'medicine' help?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

can help with emotion work