One Of The Strongest Engines, Yet Under Powered

[@stormjet814]

See you all in 6 months when gaijin cooks up the 104G wtd61 pack

[@spaghettinoodles7913]

Can you explain?

[@hydrolox3953]

​@spaghettinoodles7913 the WTD 61 is a test squadron of the German air force. Gaijin can take squadron/tech tree planes, rename them to "insert plane here" WTD 61 and make a copy-paste version of an already existing plane to generate money from whales with minimal effort

[@BiscuitDelivery]

@@spaghettinoodles7913 It's the last f-104 the Germans operated back in the early 90s. Clearly a plane worthy of getting a 13.3 BR premium with a 1950s airframe. ;)

[@محمد__-0]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@spaghettinoodles7913]

​@@BiscuitDelivery what does it use?

[@Hazey652]

German mains on their way to buy their 617th WTDCBT420 mobile in the hopes that their next top tier wont be civilian airliner modified with another f18 radar and amraams

[@superproduce]

LMAO

[@FishFlys]

F4f ice isn’t good but it’s honestly more mid than bad. Yes you are slower than an F16, but you are still as fast as a viggen give or take, and you hold more speed. It also does win the dogfight against every other F4 besides the other F4F fighters since the German phantom has less internal fuel and better thrust to weight. Now it’s still a phantom don’t get me wrong, but at 13.0 it’s really just mid not terrible.

[@PhantomofPhreedom]

@@FishFlys while you could be flying an F-15E? no thanks

[@1SaUI]

@@FishFlys Gotta work with what you got, in that regard the F4F ICE delivers. Its nice to see someone with a similar take on the ICE. Mid, but not bad (im trying not to sound too biased because I really like this aircraft haha)

[@duncanmcgee13]

@@FishFlyswow it wins dogfights against planes itll never see in an actual match

[@Master_Teaz]

Hi, I was that Tornado, in the last clip, I was testing the range of the PGMs, I knew that it was your squadron but Christ I did not know it was you, missile that I told you to flare was fired at the F-8, my fault on the shitty launch, so I panic typed flare, on me to be honest,

[@X13565]

coms? +rep

[@DEFYN]

You warned me thats all that matters Mistake happens Won us the game :)

[@Master_Teaz]

@@DEFYN yeah, If someone asks for help with something in team chat ill usually drop what i'm doing and help to the best of my ability, especially if its one of/the last teammate, think being in space for the PGM launches probabally gave me enough speed to get close enough for the guns to hit,

[@Master_Teaz]

@@X13565 always ready to respond to an ally in need of help, wish more people would communicate damnit

[@DEFYN]

Most people dont bother because no one listens lmao

[@GeneralLee2000]

At least the camo looks cool...

[@DEFYN]

Wrong! Ground camo bad!

[@kingghidorah8106]

defyn likes white or grey camos Is this a racial reference? :peeposus:

[@Definetlynotwaldo]

@@DEFYN based

[@_Frozen_mamba_]

@@DEFYNNuh uh it looks sick

[@ToxicCenturion]

@@DEFYN whatever you say no mountain having ahh

[@gusemine4112]

All i can say is MVP TEAMMATE

[@giacomomeluzzi280]

5:57 my brother in Christ I've seen AIM9Ls go for single flares against afterburning F014s, they love that shit

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Sometimes mine just fly right through flares without a care in the world, compared to most missiles they are pretty flare resistant under the right situation, certainly compared to r60s they will chase literally anything

[@giacomomeluzzi280]

@@mrcaboosevg6089 just because some missiles are even worse doesn't make them not shit

[@bibbr4137]

respect to that tornado

[@Master_Teaz]

Thanks for the compliment, that was me!

[@Morachie]

@@Master_Teaz You did an absolutely awesome job! Keep it up

[@Master_Teaz]

@@Morachie been playing the GR.1 to get the GR.4 recently, get 2-3 kill games if i try reason why i was in space is cause i was testing the range of the PGMs lol, been using them a lot recently, climb ot 5k meters, fire at the base that's most likely to stay, then dive, chaff any missile incoming, lets you place yourself in a favourable position for air to air than being in the meatgrinder at the bases

[@Donut833]

Some players blow my mind. Hanging out in orbit for the entire match, and he's actually sitting at his keyboard like what are you doing bro lmao.

[@Master_Teaz]

That was me, I wasn't in orbit the entire match, I was testing the range of the PGMs as a meme, kinda gave up with using the tornado as a fighter, if i try i can get fairly regular 2-3 kill games but that's about all I get

[@Donut833]

@Master_Teaz at least you got involved. Idk I see it all the time where I'm in a 1v2 or 3 and there's some premium player at 50k feet just cruising.

[@Master_Teaz]

@Donut833 yeah, i get that a lot too, hurts more when in playing my nado, just dont have the performance to make up for their lack of presence

[@dakromis]

@@Master_TeazI was impressed that you successfully helped him and that your communication both wasnt to late and was actually useful. Good job

[@verySharkey]

@@Master_Teaz I honestly loved seeing this though. I understand so little of whats going on in these videos and the control scheme overwhelms me on anything beyond biplane. Then I see who know what they are doing/understand and communicate it and I'm amazed.

[@sharcc2511]

Honestly I fuck with the su17m4 so much. Granted, I play the soviet tech tree one, but since the rebalance this thing can be a monster in downtiers. 6 R60ms, 250+ countermeasures, and basically endless energy. Sure, you're slower than most things, and you sure as hell won't out pull most planes, but a lot of people at this br are very, very clueless and will just let you spiral upwards until they stall out and you murder them. Biggest thing holding it back is the guns, but on day one of the rebalance I still managed to get a 6 kill game in a down tier and im not very good at the game lol

[@unoriginalplays120]

For those who buy this for CAS in grb, you can bring kh29t with kh25ml and guide the kh25ml through the kh29t TV sight. (They might've changed it so try it out on your own)

[@dsawf4317]

3 year of germany suffer and we get this for a prem 😭

[@meezo9980]

Deserved

[@eliradinsky7088]

​@meezo9980 why deserved?? Germany has arguably the worst top tier air tree in the entire game

[@Xiphactinus]

@@eliradinsky7088yeah but the players are annoying so it balances out

[@meezo9980]

@eliradinsky7088 because I am biased and believe that ingame nations that I dislike should be neglected and made fun of

[@loicalex]

This flight model looks like the new MiG-23, abysmal at turn fighting. I used to play the Russian SU17 still a year ago and no way it was that cumbersome. You know this is bad when a F4-S can run circles around you.

[@rainsilent]

This is indicative of these aircraft in real life though. After the MiG-19 everything Soviet/Russian was a complete boat until the MiG-29 and Su-27.

[@guyperson6567]

​@@rainsilentso why are the mig-29 and su-27 boats too

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

Boris just take the Mig-21, make it longer and add another pair of wings

[@MrKumi]

That is NOT how the su 22 was developed xDDD

[@kantina4765]

@@MrKumiyou can’t blame anyone for thinking so though, that’s exactly how it looks at first glance.

[@VIT-ey8wo]

J-7E development be like

[@MrKumi]

@@kantina4765 sure. If you say so!

[@kantina4765]

@@MrKumi you mean to tell me there aren't superficial visual similarities between the 2 planes?

[@duncanmcgee13]

High tier premium attacker released right before an air event

[@MrKumi]

I remember when it used to be 10.7 in sim, was absolutely cracked at that BR. 11.3 is a little to high for this thing and the su 22 UM3K is blatantly overtiered at the same BR.

[@X13565]

8:20 If you make a little bit of turn in the F-111 A little bit of speed... is all you have left😂

[@astrillas3792]

the Netz (F16A for the Israeli tech tree) is 12.7 now and has python III's so maybe take it for a spin

[@1SaUI]

Save yourself the money and grind the one in the TT, ive had some good luck trying to dogfight with this thing.. its actually pretty fun. I do notice the engine likes to overheat if you keep on the afterburner for too long (mostly on Spain), just to keep that in mind.

[@Shatterfish]

Fun fact: none of the AI planes actually have functional control surfaces, so even if you literally shoot all of them off the plane will still just fly around as if nothing happened. Just Gaijin things

[@yadayadayadayadayadayada777]

Good to see Gaijin still has not managed to fix the render distance stuff. I also see on yours when close to the ground, the render rings. That didnt exist 2 months ago as one was still able to see on 20km a plane.

[@lukapalatinus2162]

2:46 pls more of those cuts🤣

[@ramonzaions7522]

Cl-Mk6B (King of Dogfigths at 9.0) When??

[@interpl6089]

Please play the Su-17M2. It's absolutely horrendous.

[@infectiousproduction812]

"oh damn just realised defyn squadron" the guy wake up real quick 😂😂 10:56

[@mullayho1759]

TEAMWORK???

[@Master_Teaz]

I know, Scary right?

[@rhenia4855]

You should try flying the Mirage IIIC again, last time you made a video on it was ages ago, and it's way different now

[@NoUserIdea]

So its like the squadron one but with countermeasures

[@guutn7973]

every su22 and su17 is basically mig 21 but worse in every way of aerial combat. do not use these for air realistic.

[@yulu8585]

Its alr

[@shadowrxmpxge8905]

i recommend playing air sim or learning how to because air rub isn’t going to get any better. And besides the awards are immaculate in sim so much so that it actually allows f2p so long as your consistent even when you die don’t leave immediately.

[@Zx17OPv57i]

I realize how german air force was just so bad back in the day, almost like an african country

[@SnoW-pk9zo]

I was unsubscribed to you. Yt should stop messing with that

[@SpriGgEx]

The big Problem with these russian Strike Aircrafts is, that any Payload especially Bombs produce soo much additional Drag and the Engines feel kinda underpowered anyways, that you just dont accelerate and have problems even reaching Mach 0.95 Therefore you will be either too late for any Base or just easy prey. Also you face F4S and Mig23ML Spam and they eat you for breakfast.

[@elliottlyden9831]

Hey deffy just wanted to say I love you

[@Erik_Tbl]

nice thats what i've waited for

[@SirHermes-wog]

This may be "one of the strongest engines" however when I propel methane out of my backside I can hit mach 5. And im telling you right now im not "under powered"

[@Rorywizz]

those first two planes were paid actors

[@impguardwarhamer]

Is this any different to the tech tree one?

[@DEFYN]

Same

[@ramonzaions7522]

You will comment about the New Shity Player Card???

[@SnoW-pk9zo]

On min fuel it ca actually dogfight

[@kevinknutson4596]

Based as hell team mate

[@What-d6s]

Defyn marry me

[@JacksonBohne]

Could you please play the f 15A PLEASE

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

he already has

[@JacksonBohne]

@mrcaboosevg6089 in today's modern warfare

[@PvtPartzz]

It’s crazy to me how many of these rb content creators will leave their range finding radar on when purely going for air to air kills. You do know that it lights up everyone’s RWR, right?

[@DEFYN]

Thats why its off in the 2nd clip I just forgot

[@FiestaKing36]

tornado 🫡

[@underskillednunderpaid]

This was painful to watch, that thing turns like a brick lol.

[@mikko57]

please notice me defyn

[@evin1035]

Why are you using a ground attack plane against other planes?

[@DEFYN]

Cuz it's funny

[@Tjecktjeck]

tu-22m3 used to be one of my fav pseudo fighters back in 21bis/f4e/f5e meta. But now it got sad.

[@LýÐìnhNhânân-r2s]

Das Einfühlungsvermögen und das Verständnis, die hier ausgetauscht werden, erwärmen das Herz und fördern das Gefühl der Verbundenheit.💕

[@PhùngMộngVânân]

Soyons honnêtes, "Netflix and Chill" devrait être suivi de "HBO Max and Massage My Feet"👄

[@bob-rx9yb]

So true...