One Piece Live Action Episodes 5 Breakdown!!

Thoughts on the changes made to Mihawk arriving at the Baratie and the different setup to his and Zoro's duel? Thoughts on Nami's character having more character development with the Straw Hats.
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[@NightmareBanana69]

Tekking’s breakdown and analysis videos have more runtime than the episodes they’re based on and we love him for it.

[@jamesa8851]

And I like the release schedule better. Netflix should have 100% dropped it on a weekly basis just like the anime and manga. Binging is cool sometimes but this could’ve been a three month long nonstop hype train.

[@ThaRealJamarcus]

This mf is insane lol but you’re right we do love Tekking.

[@ThaRealJamarcus]

@@jamesa8851would’ve taken away from manga and anime hype and I’m not sacrificing REAL One Piece content for this live action series…

[@Fiddledickss]

And even when he goes on tangents that have completely digressed , he always remains compelling. You have to be a natural to pull that off.

[@Serovious]

I mean that should be expected though. Asmongold makes hour long videos about a 2 minutes clip.

[@ra3085]

Garp's laughter after Luffy rebounds the cannonball was out of pride rather than rage, wasn't it?

[@sinisterpanda2738]

_Not bad, boy!_

[@mattia_carciola]

It should, but the LA makes him always look so angry :(

[@yvngking3865]

Yea, it is

[@DiceFTW273]

Little of Column A, Little of Column B

[@Shohoku00]

My only problem with Taz's Sanji is that he did not have more scenes

[@muhammadfaisal5Y5]

One problem I found with live action was that they cut so much stuff that some characters did not go through the journey they were supposed to. Sanhi and Usoppe were basically extras, their story did not matter for the overall plot, there were there for one arc. For anime and manga, it works because it is a continuous story. It takes years and maybe decades for it to flesh out. The live action tv show consists of nine episodes and needs to tie the beginning to the end. As a result, I had a few problems with Sanji and Usoppe in live action. In my opinion, Sanji was not really that good of a womaniser as some people are suggesting.

[@miguellopes7627]

My only problem was the "oregano is for savages" There's nothing wrong with oregano!

[@Shohoku00]

​@@muhammadfaisal5Y5 For sure, the LA overall is pretty aight really good stuff but also really bad decision. Only having 8 episodes must've hurt a lot to the people in charge

[@mcihay246]

​@@miguellopes7627 Tbf, just because someone has a belief, doesn't mean they're right.

[@MayMoment_]

​@@mcihay246yeah but SANJI should know how useful oregano can be, we've seen him make pizza and pasta for the SHs and it slaps with those

[@ripperdjak6224]

The casting for Mihawk, Sanji, and Zeph we're amazing. Some of my favorite casting

[@grennbalze]

Although disappointed Gin the Man Demon(one of my favorite characters) had his role severely cut, the fact that he survived whereas Don Krieg and Pearl did not is like best case scenario

[@ieatbees2725]

Certainly best senario for him

[@tylamcgilverson3923]

Ok your a Gin fan too!!!! Ok hear me out. 100 percent Gin is coming back as a member of the Straw hat Grand Fleet. Like as one of the top commanders. I can see him sitting on a throne like thing with a Gin style straw hat flag made by Bellomy Like think about that two page spread. Bartelomao Commander of the east blue, Gin the man demon comander of the West Blue. Boa Hancock former warlord camander of the calm belt. Ect ect And we see this massive fleet like it would be so amazing !!! I can see the spread now.

[@jackroberts2704]

​@@tylamcgilverson3923I'm not against the idea, but we'd need a cover story or something for it to make sense.

[@grennbalze]

@@tylamcgilverson3923 hell yeah im a fan of Gin the Man Demon. Something about him. Simple design, cool weapons, interesting introduction. Im a sucker for a character who only experienced survival of the fittest for his entire life, and a simple act of genuine kindness was enough to severely affect him. Plus we dont know how strong he really was. Yeah Sanji was pretty beat up from taking those shots from Pearl(ugh Pearl) but Gin had Sanji dead to rights.

[@MisterPrince01]

True. I knew that they wouldn't cover Gin's story because of time, but that was a nice treat.

[@Breanna_monique]

When we got the slow shot of Mihawk next to Usopp at the bar, I SCREAMED!! I was scared for Usopp 😂😂

[@HeraclesN-fp1bw]

Easter Eggs found in this Episode: - With the Going Merry’s railing getting broken by cannon balls reminds me that we don’t have Johnny & Yosaku ins’t here to fix it because this is the point in the Manga / anime when they appear - Garp uses his technique called Genkotsu Meteor / Meteor Fist where he throws a cannonball at an enemy ship - When entering the Baratie their outfits are from color spread: Luffy’s is from Ch.28, Usopp’s is from Volume 8 special, & Nami is wearing her outfit based on her Baratie arc & Ch.50 (minus the letters “WC”) which notice that the circles on her skirt are like a pocket - Once they enter notice the paintings on the wall references Gaimon on the Island of Rare Animals, Sabaody, a Giant King Squid, a battle at sea = maybe the Edd War, a giant wave with faces = sea monkeys from Ch.304, a Sea Beasts from Fishman Island, Foolshout Island (Koala’s birthplace), Kyuka Island, & the ceiling art is maybe the All Blue or Fishman Island - Sanji’s dish that he made is made of Elephant Bulefin Tuna which is the same dish from Sanji’s Cookbook & the fish that he buys in Lougetown that originates from the South Blue, & if you look on the kitchen wall references species from the One Piece world like a wild boar, dinosaur, the panda shark, armored stone fish, tomahawk spiny lobster & dragon salmon (Shokugeki No Sanji) - Sanji mentions Ithurzburger Stein a drink from Micqueot in the North Blue that Fullbody mentions when he ask for the wine from Sanji in the manga / anime, but then with the Straw Hats he mentions Umeshu a wine that Kureha drinks - Luffy ordering milk is a reference to Ch.1 when after Shanks gave him milk he was mock for being a kid - Koby just like Nami in Ep.1 mentions 77th Branch which is lead by Pudding Pudding - Notice that on the cannon ball Krieg shoots at Mihawk has his Jolly Roger - The large drink that Usopp had notice it had Sea Kings painted on it - During the Ending Credits you can see that they have added the Baratie located in the Sambas Region

[@saeedabdo2083]

One thing to correct here. In Chapter 1, Luffy actually drinks juice, not milk. The Viz translators in the past changed it to milk for some reason. You can watch the anime and see that he drinks juice and even listen to Shanks and you'll see that he says juice in Japanese.

[@okachobe1]

All of this. Crazy but I love it

[@DiceFTW273]

That last Easter Egg is most important because as any fan of Tekking knows, GEOGRAPHY IS EVERYTHING!!

[@TheZajicekfarber]

I love how they gave Mihawk such a sassy personality. He's the best and he knows it, and he's just looking for anything fun to escape the boredom. One minor difference is how they show Zoro's loss. In the manga; he turns around quickly and surprises Mihawk, who mid swing intending to cut Zoro down from behind without a care. In the show; Zoro slowly stands up and turns around to see Mihawk patiently waiting for him. While I think the manga portrayal is better for showing off Zoro's badass determination, the show version fits this Mihawk perfectly because he wants to see if Zoro has anything else interesting to show him.

[@Symbolic-Sky]

Bonus points on Mihawk being a sexy motherfucker lol, like I dunno I love that in a way one piece's live action is giving us a lot of fan service by letting the hot characters be pretty where some like Cowboy Bebop felt the need to make them more realistic lol

[@in-craig-ible6160]

Casting Stephen Jay Ward as Dracule Mihawk was a godly decision. My favourite part of the live action was seeing him in action.

[@SamWickens]

One scene I loved in this episode was where Zoro and Nami are watching Usopp dancing, and are basically finding his positive goofy energy infectious. Especially considering we didn't get a lot of Usopp's value to the crew on display in Syrup Village, and he didn't really interact with those two all that much either, here we have it front and centre that the others do like and value him. He's on the crew no so much because of his practical value as a sniper (so far he's basically just failed to shoot Kuro and then again with the cannon against Garp), but because they genuinely enjoy his company and he kind of fills the "heart" role of the classic five-man-band. And notably, Usopp doesn't hear this, so they'll still be able to play with his self doubt and depression later on in the series when it matters.

[@thetruth3068]

Oh, Tekking finally remembered to review the Live Action I thought he forgot about it.

[@MonographicSingleheaded]

he prolly did tbh XDDDD imho

[@JavierPwns]

Hopefully everyone else forgets about it too, live action is trash

[@mattia_carciola]

Hopefully he'll also remember about the "what if" episodes about strawhats dying. "luckily" it's not like there's a chapter every week to discuss

[@bearzerger]

I always took Garp's insistence of using cadets as him wanting to make it a fair fight. Just like Mihawk took his little bread knife to fight Zoro. Garp chose neophyte marines to hunt down fledgling pirates. As Garp told Coby, every marine has to live by a code representing his own brand of justice and this seems to be part of his. Though him sending Mihawk does muddy the waters quite a bit.

[@Lupinemancer87]

I know Oda doesn't do a lot of romance in One Piece, but the fact that we got an Usopp and Kaya kissing scene in this TV Show and Oda seemingly approved of that, puts more stock on the likelihood that my theory of One Piece being a story told by an old Usopp to his and Kaya's grandchildren is likely to be a thing :D

[@ryno0501]

I think my biggest complaint of this episode is that when Zoro was saying he’d never lose again, he didn’t have the “Is that alright, future king of the pirates?” It gets nowhere close to ruining the great episode but I really love that line in particular.

[@hiagustres]

I wish the Gin starving scene had more impact, that was the scene that truly hooked me on One Piece

[@sinisterpanda2738]

That was rare. Most fans got hooked during "help me" scene

[@alfredhinton8792]

I was interested in the fish man greeter working at the baratie and his interaction with Arlong.

[@creativerealms]

It shows the world building at play with the live action series. They didn't need a fishman employee at baratie, and he doesn't add much to the story but it's a great small piece of world building.

[@alfredhinton8792]

@@creativerealms indeed. Felt like Garp was thinking about the tenryuubito when he was talking to Koby about rules not applying to certain people and doing things their way

[@KumaTorey]

the way they translated a lot of OP is so well done, like how they handled Sanji, like if he was a REAL person in real life he would be that dude cracking flirty lines at ladies, go out of his way to open a door for a woman just to look like a suave good guy, stuff like that. The team behind this series really figured how to keep the same energy that needs to be portrayed. It doesn't have to 1 to 1 that's how it would end up being a little weird and off, these simple changes but still be the same vibe of characters or moments is how this series didn't suck. with that said on portrayals n stuff, my guess in the future is an easy way to keep the gag of Zoro's abysmal sense of direction but not be as blatant as it is in the anime is a quick bit of banter like "we should head south" "zoro...you are pointing towards the sun....that would be west" zoro redirects himself "still not south" "shut up"

[@mattia_carciola]

Makes sense. And if they ever keep it going until Sabaody I want to see "groove 1". That's something they can't cut, it's just too perfect.

[@christopherross8976]

Yeah suave Sanji was the best. Now in the manga sadly he’s been reduced to a creepy simp when he sees a nice looking lady

[@matthewcorm]

it is interesting because by the time Tekking got around to reviewing One Piece back in the day, the series was already 630 chapters in, so it is nice to in a way hear Tekking review the beginning of the story 😅

[@MisterPrince01]

I read an interview with Taz Skylar and it's absolutely insane what he did to prepare for the role. He basically became a chef and a martial artist. He's probably my favorite actor out of the Strawhats. And yeah, they absolutely nailed Mihawk as well. Love his look and demeanor.

[@aszul7750]

Tekking is smart to break down the review per episode. Easy way to make fill and extend a content schedule

[@rfz_wild308]

The live action can take as long as they need to, we are one piece fans. Waiting, is our shit. 25 years, we’ve waited. 5? 10? 25 again? It doesn’t matter. We aren’t leaving until this story finishes

[@James_Wisniewski]

The real life equivalent of Luffy saying he'd pay Zeff back after finding the One Piece is if, after being confronted about a massive bill, the person who had to pay it was like, "Hey, I'm gonna go find a way to Narnia. Once I do, and I become king of Narnia, then I'll come back and pay you. I'm a man of my word." If you were the waiter or whatever, you'd be like, "Yeah, someone needs a serious reality check."

[@bodnachuk877]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS!

[@disasteromega]

31:20 Sanji was broken mentally half way through the story, locked in hell for two years really did a number on his psyche. He did some un-excusable things due to his broken impulse control, but hopefully he will temper his blazing passion towards the safety and the success of the crew without losing himself in the final war to come.

[@lanalewis6982]

The croak line comes from the Warrior type One Piece games as Mihawk says that there.

[@mattia_carciola]

Omg they thought about everything

[@bignewsmorgan]

Thank you again for another 1 hour long video. I got inspired by you to create a KZbin channel. But I never new how hard it was going to be. I can't even make a 10 mins video let alone an hour. This just proves the knowledge you have is truly great. Thank you again.

[@kyleholmes8230]

One of my favorite things about the live action is that helmepo isn't even a named character. He isn't named once. It's so meta I love it.

[@anoninunen]

6:00 - Did Merry know Ussop? Presumably there was enough trust to have him onboard the ship 9:00 - Garp broke a large cannon in his first scene

[@anoninunen]

47:00 - in OPLA, Gin might not have even seen Mihawk

[@Distant_View]

Huh, I actually didn't have any problem with the way Zoro's swords broke, and I'm usually really critical of CGI. Thought it was kinda cinematic the way they fell apart. My waaaay bigger problems with the scene were Zoro wildly swinging at Mihawk saying "got you on the run, huh?" when he was clearly outmatched, when in the manga, Zoro's eyes go wide and he's thinking "the distance between me and him can't be so vast, can it?!", then Mihawk saying "fighting isn't all about strength" and Zoro responding with "stop talking and fight" when he had just been talking a second ago and saying "fight" twice in a few seconds sounds wonky, Mihawk stabbing him in the wrong side of the chest so it's just dangerous instead of "if you don't step backwards, this blade will pierce your heart"-level danger, Sanji not being there for the amazing and important "throw away your dream, it isn't worth dying for!" line, and finally, Zoro wasn't crying when he held his sword in the air and declared he wouldn't lose again, which is really important to me because it shows what a genuine guy he is underneath his badass persona. Don't get me wrong, i actually cannot believe how great this episode and the LA in general was, and these are little nitpicks, but Zoro vs. Mihawk is one of my favorite scenes in any manga I've ever read, and there were just a few things that they changed for reasons I really couldn't understand. But for all those little fussy bitch complaints, they're VASTLY overwhelmed by the fact that Mihawk is beyond perfect to the point I don't even understand. I mean, the guy talks in cursive and the disdain he exudes when pulling out his little knife is something I didn't know could ever be translated from a manga. I cannot wait to see more of him, and I'm hoping Smoker next season is similarly cast to be the gruff dude that he was in Loguetown and Alabasta.

[@kk_romeow]

Zoro was actually crying. It just sadly wasn't noticeable enough because it wasn't ugly cry but just some tears and his head was tilted up so his tears didn't flow down his cheeks but up his bandana. My personal gripe is him pulling out his sword out to swear it looked so awkward to me lol

[@rwg6357]

I always took Garp's Angry ranting and then bursting into laughter as more a "YOU FUCKING LITTLE SHIT!.... THATS MY BOY!!" Like he is infuriated that Luffy Damaged his ship... and then he's just proud of sheer audacity

[@PedroHenrique-mk5zi]

Finally. It only took like, 5 weeks since the last one. (Not hate or pressure to Tekking, I might add.).

[@smittyjjensin558]

These live action reviews seem to be Tekking content for breakweeks.

[@carlosricardoperaltamunoz3536]

Love these oasis of One Piece data while we wait the next chapter!!!

[@mrbubbles6468]

Honestly could totally see Garp turning it down aond them either picking Sengoku or Garp suggesting him because Sengoku was straight up the only person Garp might even choose to listen to.

[@meridithg.42]

Garp's mental breakdown in this episode (and the next one) had me cackling.

[@paulkripke3423]

i loved how you breakdown the live action. good thing i really saw your videos. keep it up

[@TheB2100]

Finally!!!! I love those Live Action Breakdowns of urs

[@perkinsat]

Hearing your reviews about this live action really make me want to watch it ☺️.

[@christopherross8976]

Glad you’re back with these bro. Been waiting for this for a while 😂

[@OrangeCat_Roo]

I was worried you aren’t doing these but super glad your just taking your time, and as you should

[@rirururu4697]

I actually really like how they changed things up so then Zoro had a night to prepare and Nami hadn't left yet. We actually got to see the tensions amongst the crew, got moments like Nami reading to an unconscious Zoro or the two of them drinking together or her arguing with Luffy, and what led to Nami leaving rather than having it all off screen or too fast paced. Too many modern stories nowadays don't know the value of slowing down and letting characters breathe and instead rather have everything happen one after another. The live action One Piece knows the value of it very well and it shows in episode 5-6.

[@cjhooray]

We've been waitin for this one fire it up

[@jamesa8851]

It would be super cool if they turn the old Barati set into an actual restaurant for one piece fans

[@mattia_carciola]

I'm all on board for it, they need every possible source of income to have more budget during next seasons lol

[@johnnypollack3243]

Keep up the awesome work and videos tekking love the video

[@nixy7899]

tekking ur the goat fr fr

[@redmoosekiller]

I was in Vegas for twitchcon but WOOOOOO ITS HERE THANK YOU

[@jshadowhunter]

Honestly, Krieg getting axed isn't a big deal. In fact, that's the fate that Krieg should've originally suffered, and it's only 2 reasons that he goes as far as he did in manga and anime. 1. While Mihawk was wiping out his fleet on the Grand Line, a storm interfered, allowing Krieg's flagship to get away. 2. For some reason, instead of finishing what he started, after fighting Zoro, Mihawk just decided to leave, even after Krieg decides to take a potshot at him, he just leaves, and Luffy is forced to clean up after him. So, I'm perfectly fine with what they did here. If the main complaint is the fight between Luffy and Krieg getting cut to show "Luffy's perseverance", we get that in Season 2 in his fight with Crocodile after he gets poisoned.

[@stevelucky7579]

I was waiting for this 😁

[@Mario_Capone]

I watched this with someone who's never seen One Piece and the horror on his face was priceless when he realized Zeff didn't have food and he ate his own leg so Sanji could eat the whole time

[@TheRabbitRonin]

2-3 weeks ago I finally got netflix mostly to watch this show and I'm glad I did! I enjoyed the show and other stuff I ended up watching after I finished One Piece Live action.

[@dankrishnadasan9295]

Genius to do this on break weeks 👍 I’m all for it!

[@bunta3434]

Been waiting on this

[@creativerealms]

Mihawk was perfection.

[@SetSailTCGQueen]

Great video.

[@stormstrider1990]

My favorite episode thus far. This one has so many tings that I love: The design of the Baratie (including the bar), the crew dynamic (including Usopp's dance and Zoro and Nami's drinking game), Taz as Sanji and his dynamic with Zeff, Garp's conversation with Koby, and literally everything Mihawk. This is Netflix at its best.

[@b00mjack66]

thanks tekking

[@Chrispyy22]

loved tazs commitment

[@IAmMightyMike]

Tekking is reviewing these episodes at the pace he reviews the movies

[@PotatoGoatee]

I thought you abandoned the show, I just finished episode 5 today and couldn't find the review.

[@kevo9352]

You deserve to be recognized as the best anime KZbinr

[@pewperclipped3709]

Did anyone else just see what I saw? The legendary yoru was stopped by conqueror infused haki webs.

[@stevelucky7579]

This episode was one of my favorite of the show. I just loved their interactions and sanji and zeff were picked really well.

[@ItsAVolcano]

I find it fascinating how many reactions to this episode criticize Garp bringing a pair of cadets aboard his ship without realizing that real warships from the age of sail had midshipmen who could have been that young and some outright children would serve as powder boys.

[@GiaDante18]

Idk if you’d be interested with how busy your schedule is. But do you have any interest it making a Garling before and after? Like theory before the flashback how his character will be then compare after how right you were?

[@questingchris1699]

"Though I do like your hat." My family, who was watching with me had no idea why that line made me bust out laughing.

[@shonenjump18]

18:46 I had noticed one of the bullets was gold and had gunpowder inside it so it was likely supposed to be a reference to his spear that would explode on contact

[@pf3558]

This will save me from the OPBR maintenance slump

[@jonathantalley6110]

Opbr maintenance??

[@News10111]

​@jonathantalley6110 One Piece Bounty Rush. It's a mobile phone game

[@anonakkor9503]

17:45 yoooo hahahhaaaa… 36:20 really love this change……

[@vallerydo]

One of my favorite is definitely Nami and Zoro's scenes, they have really good chemistry with each other (the actors), not in a romantic way, but like there's tension and depth in their conversations that just clicks and it expresses and can solidify their friendship much better!

[@lastassassin4443]

Day 141 of asking for a discussion video on Vice Admiral Tsuru he did one for Garp and Sengoku let the Marine Trio finnaly be completed

[@JAY222-m4n]

Hi this is fire 🔥

[@Hashbrown1682]

I love they got a guy to play Mihawk that can speak in cursive

[@KipC-Sway]

I loved this episode sooo much!

[@thelastnpc00]

Tekking you should put all these reviews in one video when you’re done.

[@HotspotNews_]

Christmas came early

[@CyberKirby]

Man I miss Sanji's rizz.

[@Sonicmen]

56:45 Tekking remembered the minority hunter Zoro thing here😂😂😂😂

[@Ceejcj113]

27:35 “treat yourself today..” “an explosion in your mouth..” “on the special menu..” Mmm, let Sanji cook. 😏 Lmao

[@mrbubbles6468]

I like that he truly pegs who Luffy is because of the hat

[@turiel86]

I just love that the den den mushi have the same face features as their owners - Garp's has a beard and stache, Morgan's had his jaw plate. Is this something that's taken from the manga/anime?

[@iskandarzulkarnain9605]

Man, I'm excited for ipponmatsu in the next season. The legend himself

[@ralfsstuff]

My one problem with the liveaction is how they don't show Usopp's skills as a sniper. They even make a point to show that he doesn't know how to shoot a cannon

[@saeedabdo2083]

Even in the manga, in chapter 42, Usopp was surprised with himself that he hit the rock that Johnny and Yosaku were on first try. I don't think Usopp knew how to shoot a cannon in the manga either. He doesn't know how naturally gifted he is.

[@jazzycat8917]

Cannons are not tools of a sharpshooter irl, nobody is gonna find that odd. Also theres no reason why he WOULD be familiar, hes never been in a naval battle or had reason to learn before that point.

[@TragicGFuel]

Why would a sniper know about canons? Besides ussop underestimates his aim often

[@ItzR6]

Damn I forgot u were doing these since it’s been awhile😂

[@Dm1-719]

One piece opening on spacetoon they did the drums of liberation before finishing even alabasta

[@hackmxn]

41:32 that was a good catch

[@domtoretto1738]

The exclusion of johnny and yosaku left me in tears

[@iceman4169]

One piece hype for life great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!

[@bomfio601]

what happend at 32:52. there was a cut and then video and audio was out of sync

[@ragnarmeh8156]

So, does Mihawk just sail through the calm belt or does he actually go all the way around through fishmen island/reverse mountain? 🤔

[@graham7702]

bro's the king of yappin and i'm not mad

[@animefan3794]

8:58 impression I got was he was feeling frustration/rage at Luffy’s defiance and a the familial pride of “did you see that?! My grandson just sent one if *my* canon balls back at us! I made him into one tough sonnovabitch!”

[@Deadmanstune]

Garp is a Mihawk fan and Luffy is a Shanks fan

[@goldmemberpb]

Learning about Garp this early does spoil any anime only watcher who has not gotten past Enies Lobby. There's that and also we have the one two punch of Garp being revealed to be Luffy's Grandfather AND we learn about Dragon and the revolutionary. So now, it is just gonna be a one punch, man.

[@xlro8f853]

Weird, how did I miss episode 2, 3 and 4?

[@jamesstutz6907]

Wow Tekking got himself a Mihawk battle sword.

[@NVisaSIN]

THE GREATEST AND MOST POWERFUL GENERAL DON KREIG got done a bit dirty here. But when your opponent is Mihawk what can you expect?

[@reimiya1262]

@tekking101 who should play Con D. Oriono?

[@TOPA808]

I think they specifically use it to show Garp and Luffy's relationship. 37:50

[@idunn000]

Helmeppo's explaining the warlord system isn't as bad as you might think cuz it's ambigious if that's this generation of warlords or a previous one, there is left a lot of room to expand.

[@Plethiros]

jits been so long since episodes 3 and 4 breakdown that i genuinely thought you gave up on them

[@ninetailednaruto11a]

Noble needs to watch the scene with Garp and Koby and try the same thing in D&D Marines between Damien and Kai.