Onewheel Pint S Review | 18mph Haptic Buzz Top Speed

[@TheFloatLife]

...yup

[@Olmsted1978]

Same exact situation here! I ,literally contacted them and said the same thing word for word. And they responded to me same way they did to you. i have over 50k in miles and my feedback again same as yours. If it did the 20 it would be an awesome little board.

[@JeffBarksdale]

Agreed

[@clicktresni6298]

@@Olmsted1978 maybe this is a dumb thought but is it because "we" are standing to "upright" the few times I have hit 15 mph on my normal pint I was squatting down and almost touching my knees together crossing a street for not getting ran over reasons and it happened super easy, I'll have to try it on my pintS , I don't like putting anything on for safety, I basically ride naked. Maybe I'll put some stuff on and see if getting low is the trick. It's hard to believe they would just hope no one would actually try to hit 20 .

[@clicktresni6298]

@@Olmsted1978 I just looked, 62 miles on the pintS and I have only hit 12.4 mph , I'm a old lady , 500 miles on the pint and 15.4 and that was just by happenstance.

[@Jimangos]

Yes, they want you to fight the pushback and haptic buzz to reach 20mph. It's no fun!

[@klxz79]

Meanwhile they constantly tell you to RESPECT PUSHBACK! That's their slogan, they sell stickers with it on it. They call it the most important feature on a Onewheel yet they advertise the board as going 2MPH faster than when pushback kicks in. Future Motion, this is why people don't like you

[@SteveD-NH]

The 20 mph top speed was a selling point while I was shopping, but now that I have it I'm glad FM fibbed a bit. At 18 mph the smallest flaw in the pavement can lead to a hazardous wobble. I made it to that speed after only a few rides and haven't fallen yet, but user-friendliness and safety are really important. With a lot more experience I might want to go 18 occasionally, but for now I'm very glad to have the "redwood" mode that limits at the much more stable and safe 12mph. Things are probably different on a larger board with a bigger or flatter tire.

[@danielesquivel1164]

I purchased that board as my first one wheel , so far I’m enjoying it

[@iansanity333]

Everyone keep adament on them changing the limits of the board. Change the FIRMWARE so it does hit 20 comfortably. Thats the point of the board. Do right by your fans and customers FM. Make it right

[@ketowolf]

Refreshing to see a video on KZbin so concise. I’m a fan of onewheels. I don’t own one anymore but I’d like to. I tend to disagree with the zeal of a lot of internet dramatizations, onewheel related or otherwise. But you calmly gave good concise information with good comparisons of how the XR and GT are advertised (assuming it’s accurate information. I owned an XR, but can’t remember when push back happened for me).

[@PaulVanCaesbroeck]

My experience with FM is that they don’t take responsibility for their customers. They seem to forget that it's the customers who made them, not the other way around. That’s why I 'upgraded' my Pint X to the Pint V-what a beast! Thanks, Tony! My next board will be the Floatwheel.

[@fromdonwithlove]

I agree with your sentiment. I tried the Pint S about a week ago and had similar results. At my weight, I wouldn't feel comfortable pushing the board to 20, even as an experienced rider. You'd be riding Captain Morgan-style even if you were "advanced" enough to push it to 20.

[@c.daubz.5386]

💯correct, hate to say it but it sounds like a “Lawsuit against OneWheel” will be the only thing to get them to do the right thing, 20mph is 20mph not 18mph haptic buzz vibration then have to push through safety mechanism to reach 20mph

[@ThreeToesofFury]

Pint owner here....thanks bunches for your honest/frank experience with the S. I think its an important point as to me, one of the BIG selling points of the S is the nice bump up in max speed. The 16 max on the pint feels a bit limiting once you become experienced. Having the actual bump to 20 would be sweet...but if its buzzing out at 18 its harder to justify. Take care!

[@JeffBarksdale]

Exactly!

[@wuschu6116]

So it's a complete remarket of the pint x with some add-ons is what you're saying. I'm very glad I went with a 2Swift then. I almost bought the pint s. Still really wanted one after I bought the 2Swift. Now, I'm good. I love the 2swift. It's not great for rugged trails and tricks, but I don't use it for that. I wanted a good trail board down the road. I think I'll go with a GT or ADV for that next year. Thank you so much for your honest review. This helped a lot.

[@patthecat1800]

If I may be blunt, I'm not sure how you have owned 11 OW's and not known FM's reputation by now. the GT's were the first OW's that actually did there advertised top speed. All the Pint's have done 2 MPH less. the FM website even has the PX and the PS listed at 18mph and 20mph respectively, even though it's the same board essentially. FM has always been greedy and kind of full of shit.

[@brianflad9627]

100% agree with you

[@GothicTaco]

Thanks for your review. I have a pint x and have been wondering if I should just get the new flared front and back foot pads and a new tire or sell mine and buy the S. Before the firmware upgrade the other day, 17.5 was as fast as I could go. Now I can go 19 with no issue. The haptic buzz starts in the 18s now.

[@mlastudioproductions]

Don’t buy the S.

[@GothicTaco]

@@mlastudioproductions I upgraded my pint x. I love the flared footpads and enduro tire!

[@JeffWalldorf]

I feel the same way. With my X I was hitting ridiculous pushback at 17, the last time on a cracked and bumpy concrete path. I picked up a wobble that I couldn't recover from and had to jump off the board. I managed to get out with a fractured shoulder. I was excited about the update and maybe getting a good cruising speed but it sounds like I maybe got another 1 mph before the board becomes un-rideable. Pretty disappointed if that's the case.

[@NickOchoa]

Custom shaping is blowing mosfets fuses. I suggest riding on the presets like pacific or skyline. This is affecting both X and S

[@JeffBarksdale]

I was on custom at first, but switched to Skyline.

[@NickOchoa]

@@JeffBarksdale good idea. i did the same after all the recent post from others. Im not trying to lose another pintX

[@aphelioschou1700]

same situation here. I have a pint x and updated to the new version 5200. The top speed is indeed improved, but hitting haptic buzz at 18.7 mph

[@johanjotun1647]

Looking at the price on the GTS and thinking if i have to spend that kind of cheese i might as well gut an Electric unicycle insted of a second onewheel

[@junkfoo22]

I have a Pint X with the update and converted to pint S. I was very excited and ordered the conversion parts and got them installed anxiously awaiting the update. Took it out for the first ride and I was extremely disappointed. I used to get around 16mph before pushback started and now it starts happening at 17, and the haptic buz by 18mph. I was extremely disappointed. Don’t get me wrong I was very happy they pushed the update out for the X and are continuing to develop it, but it definitely won’t do what they say it will and it’s nothing like my GT or GTS

[@BumpierDrake960]

I feel the same… Love the way the board rides but riding over 17 mph is a no go for me on the Pint S. I was thinking this could be a great board if it would actually let you ride up to 20 mph before push back.

[@MrMiggenz]

I’ve gone 20.8 on my pint s. First time rider only a month in. I agree with the majority of riders and the pushback does start early, but keep pushing into it going downhill on some dirt and you’ll reach top speeds! Always wear a helmet and pads. Wrist guards too lol

[@mlastudioproductions]

You weigh 100lbs?

[@MrMiggenz]

@@mlastudioproductions 135Lbs

[@mlastudioproductions]

@@MrMiggenz 195lbs here but either way it’s false advertising when other boards don’t pushback until advertisied speed.

[@TheTonester2312]

Before the update I could only go 16 with no buzz so now that we can go "20" I've been happy with the 18 I'm getting. Buzz hits my Pint X at 19ish

[@THEcjustins]

I felt like I was hitting buzz/ top speed at 17 on X before update and buzz/ top speed at 18 after update. I’m also happy with this as a Pint X owner. Would be pissed if I was Pint S owner though because of how the speed difference was advertised. I have 2 pints and a Gt also and I feel like they top out as advertised at 16 and 20.

[@TheTonester2312]

@@THEcjustins yeah, I appreciate the buzz as a warning but also would love if it was more accurate. 21 mph should be the buzz. It's definitely a bummer for the Pint S owners that didn't know of this unfortunate misleading advertisement.

[@Jesus-yr7nk]

✨VESC✨

[@GReelzs]

Would love to test that Pint S 🤙

[@mlastudioproductions]

VESC it! I have a pint X with the updated firmware. Can’t ride past 18mph. The pint S is a gimmick with no real S upgrades. No S motor, no S battery, no S controller. My VESC Pint X reaches 27.5mph no problem.

[@crayseeKC]

Same thing with the pint x. I had a buddy face plant trying to hit 18mph on mine. Never made it past 17mph

[@SYNTAXRS3]

Damn!! That’s insane. It has to be because the Pint is the ‘everyone board’ and they really need to ensure that the safety feature haptic buzz is in place as a set threshold to avoid further lawsuits. Saying only the advanced riders know means nothing, been riding 10 years since the v1 came out and I can say that if I’m hitting haptic buzzing on the board at 18 I’m backing off. Doesn’t have to do with skill it’s just annoying to ride with the beeping motor humming.

[@Ghostyfrost9688]

I've never ridden a onewheel before buying the pint S. it seems plenty fast to me, but I'm not fully comfortable yet

[@raytherrien2851]

AGREE, I was gonna buy one as i have original pint and was looking forward to 20 mph but i wont buy it now! It says 20 I want 20 PERIOD!

[@luckygunner3294]

I was disappointed by 18 mph haptic buzz as well when I called future motion .I was given the newbie jove how all boards have haptic buzz a few mph before because board is close to max output .I told the lady working I have 4 different boards and non of them have early haptic buzz. The 20 mph was definitely a driving factor and was pretty disappointed

[@THEcjustins]

They need to fix their advertising asap! Pushing through a safety feature should not be considered normal top speed! I thought they’ve been doing a great job since the GTS with different products and updates that everyone has been wanting but this is definitely a step backwards for them and a dangerous one at that. If they are telling people to push past a safety feature they are going to get some injury lawsuits out of this and already have a lot of disappointed customers.

[@JedDungo]

I agree with everything you said. I hate to dwell in negativity but yeah ... 100% agreed. As a seasoned rider I also believe we've just outgrown Future Motion. The more you deep dive because you love the sport, the more you know, and the more you know there's other better options. It's time to move on! FM controllers aren't peak performance or peak safety anymore. Plain and simple.

[@gotmike]

How does pushback compare to the XR? I have an aging XR that I’ve had to replace the Bms twice on. Was thinking of replacing it as my secondary board.

[@noelleonard2498]

I have a master and a 16x, to each their own. Very rarely see any other pev but i respect all riders. To each their own i guess.

[@RIDE-o-REBELLION-o-FLOATCAST]

Pint V kit delivers. This is Fm’s (sad) attempt to to compete with FloatWheel/pint v kit. I’m telling ya, pint v kit is the way. Full unlock.

[@mlastudioproductions]

Once you VESC you’ll never go back to FM. UBOX 100 is better for bigger battery than the Pint V Power Kit

[@mgamma5001]

Yeah I got to 17.8 but had pushback at 17 it’s not comfortable or fun to push through pushback especially when carving you are off balance.

[@CodedGames]

The Pint X was always like that. Advertised to go 18 and would consistently get Pushback at 16. I dont know why the advertise objectively wrong max speeds on the Pints.

[@THEcjustins]

Same, pushback at 16 and buzz at 17 on the X so I considered 17 to be top speed. After update, hitting buzz at 18 so finally doing what was advertised. Not good enough for the Pint S though. We’ve also got two pints that buzz at 16 and a GT that hits buzz at 20 so feel like they actually performed like they were supposed to.

[@Sakufighter]

I think it’s because nosedives are in fact more sudden and violent on the pints so you have to react faster in order to run it out.

[@CodedGames]

@@Sakufighter I wouldn't say that nosedives are any different on Pints than any other board

[@Sakufighter]

@@CodedGames ugh…. Wut?…. 🤦🏼‍♂️ pint slams down way harder and more suddenly on a nosedive. If you can’t tell the difference you’re probably a noob with less than 10k miles.

[@CodedGames]

@@Sakufighter It's all gravity man, they all fall down at the same speed (since that's how gravity works). The Pint does have a smaller tire so you theoretically have less time to react but it also has a shorter length so that likely balances itself out. The more aggressive pushback might contribute since it gets the nose higher up making a larger drop. Overall I don't care anymore anyway since I've built my own VESC and made my Pint actually ridable and not gimped. And yes, I do have over 10k miles ridden, I just don't ride garbage boards anymore

[@MACEr304]

Future Motion is such a joke. One of my Pint X's came with one of the axle bolt heads broken off, obviously from being overtightened at the factory, and I didn't notice until I rode it a bit. I emailed FM explaining the situation but they responded saying they wouldn't cover it under warranty. They claimed it the damage was my fault when I knew that wasn't at all possible from the very short amount of time I had ridden it, and refused to send me a SINGLE new axle bolt. Such a simple and easy customer problem for them to fix but instead they chose to forever lose my trust. Now I'm fed up with their bs marketing. I love my Pint X but I'll be buying as much third party accessories as possible in the future.

[@JeffBarksdale]

Glad you didn’t get injured because of that.

[@starkness8842]

Same thing happened to me too! It’s really upsetting. I’m glad I’m not the only one that’s upset about the advertising. I got the same bull crap response. Maybe we could all push them to have their next podcast about how dumb this was.

[@norbelsemaj3870]

I used Love Riding Onewheel.... But once I Rode EUC, It's so Much Safer because the Max speed is at 34mph

[@irapuff1924]

Bro EUC's are the way to go! Just got my very first onewheel recently, the pint s, and honestly wish I would have gone with the GTS or just stop being lazy and fix the flat on my Veteran Sherman lol

[@norbelsemaj3870]

​@irapuff1924 Future Motion could've just Update the Pint S and make them Haptic buzz at 20mph. Why they just so dumb advertising them at 20mph and Hapticking at 18mph like the Pint X. So easy to do, they Lie too much

[@aerialviewuk]

Skyline S mode - does that reach 20mph? Other modes in the specs have a lower max speed than skyline. Would be interesting to know.

[@JeffBarksdale]

No. I get haptic buzz at 18mph in all modes, including Skyline S.

[@aerialviewuk]

@@JeffBarksdale shame, firmware for S defo has diff speeds listed for each mode.

[@mcwave4640]

Same Thing with my Pint X, Adverdised with the new update at 20 MPH, Haptic buzz at 18. Like they should not be able to do that!

[@mgamma5001]

Oh and the XR had strong pushback to get to 20mph. That also was not comfortable or safe.

[@coyoteface]

Hi. How does the stock tire compare on the S versus the rally edition ? I am debating between the two but I think you already answered it

[@JeffBarksdale]

I haven’t had a chance to check out the rally edition tire. The tire on the S is very nimble, even aired down a bit.

[@Sakufighter]

This is why I said they should bump it up to 22mph therefore the pushback comes at 20.

[@JeffBarksdale]

I don’t mind riding through some pushback. It’s the haptic buzz at 18mph.

[@Colescoffin_13]

Same here, i hit 18.5 and it was like maxxed out

[@druj3709]

Im new to one wheel but I got haptic buzz at 17.8 and backed off

[@JeffBarksdale]

That’s exactly what you should do. The haptic buzz is supposed to be a notification that you are at the limit of the board’s capabilities.

[@druj3709]

@@JeffBarksdale yea it's just the shaping profiles state 20 mph . But with that being said , being as new as I am; probably don't need to be going that fast anyways 😅

[@stevenmcbride2776]

Standing sideways is the problem,hard to turn completely forward an be able to fall properly

[@meganrogalski1533]

I got the pint s and yeah, pushback is at about 18 mph.

[@Asatheace1]

Yes I have one and it stops at 17

[@joehart103]

Got it up to 24.2

[@Godssupersoldier777]

I was about to order a whole fleet for a soccer team but after seeing this I’m reminded of the antics future motion pulls so I’ll pass. Advertising it as being able to hit 20mph when it can’t is false advertising.

[@sleek462]

and they wonder why people crack their software.

[@Zetler]

Pint V crushes this over hyped rebrand.

[@leeweber85]

That’s super lame. Thanks for sharing.

[@sep420]

I love my OWs. I feel they weren't meant for speed.

[@JeffBarksdale]

I agree that they aren’t for speed. I tell everyone who asks how fast they go, “it’s probably not for you”. You may be missing the point of the video.

[@InfluxFPV]

It should be one at 17 and one at near 20, not both at the same time Also, FM=F*ck Morals

[@chrisc790]

The most painful thing about this is how much money you have given to such a shitty company. There is so much better out there for considerably less.

[@sross0830]

So thankful that I didn’t pull the trigger on it. I will wait for the floatwheel pint to drop. I can trust Tony!

[@ChristopheGUIVANT]

Pint (ve)S(c) it!

[@JeffBarksdale]

Definitely a consideration.

[@Kay0Bot]

Have someone vesc it for u, then enjoy 20mph

[@AngelLopez-xg7wt]

You have to carve , I hit 23 mph on mine

[@THEcjustins]

I always stop at haptic buzz on my GT which kicks in at 20. My top speed for 6 months or so has been 21. Last time I rode it I hit 22 and did not feel like I was even pushing that hard. Could it be I was carving 😅🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ve never heard that before. Is it common knowledge you can go faster when carving??

[@AngelLopez-xg7wt]

But mine is powering off when tumble and fall from it while doing tricks 🤷🏽

[@biggurt9111]

I think mine turned off to once after a fall.

[@AngelLopez-xg7wt]

@@biggurt9111 someone told me on facebook group he got that with his after the update

[@Reedith]

Hit me up send me the controller, and I will unlock it to go 22mph for ya

[@ThatsGinterEV]

😢

[@Orblitz]

ok well, the REGULAR PINT can go 25 mph if you just ignore pushback and haptic buzz. So i don't understand their logic.

[@robras2850]

I don’t understand your logic ignore push back it’s there for a reason

[@Orblitz]

@@robras2850 onewheel was advertising ignored push back as there top speed that's why I said it

[@RTFM-n1n]

FFM

[@esk8unity]

if u want higher speed, go with esk8

[@Mrjerk2000]

Dumbest comment. Thats like saying if you want to run faster just get in a car

[@jakconnolly3412]

Or vesc

[@Mrjerk2000]

@@esk8unity that’s like saying if you want to go faster on a bicycle go with a car

[@AuRowe]

Or EUC😂

[@esk8unity]

@@jakconnolly3412 vesc has too many consequences and not enough rewards

[@THEleatherface24]

False advertising. Sue them

[@johndolson2154]

I never heard anything about "Most advanced riders" in any of their videos!!

[@TheBrettric]

Same same

[@robras2850]

Float wheel ftw

[@wasabibro182]

If you had waited one day the float life could have told you all of this..

[@robras2850]

Such a ripoff company is one wheel

[@clicktresni6298]

Hit dry pavement at 20 mph without appropriate gear on. Good luck with that. 8 mph is plenty for a thing with one wheel. 16? 20? Crazy without heavy gear. Go to Poland and walk into Ukraine if you have so much extra skin.

[@johanjotun1647]

theres an art to falling, if you don't go splat you'd be superised how you can come up smelling like roses if you dont try to catch yourself.

[@clicktresni6298]

@johanjotun1647 yeah a good fall is something special, I hit hard on a Segway and broke and smashed a not important part of top of my tibula and it was good for me overall but sometimes it doesn't work out like that , if you put the wrong thing into the pavement for just a second the skin goes by by . If you catch traction yikes, I got drug by a horse one time and that was not fun having a scab from my hip to my shoulder. You are not wrong about falling properly , it makes you feel invisible. But is it worth the potential death ? And these car "drivers" are trying to kill us !!!!!

[@clicktresni6298]

@johanjotun1647 and sorry I gat pissed off seeing all these people getting put into a meat grinder for basically no reason other than to get rid of them and I was being rude.and I'm also a future motion fanboy apparently. That new XR classic is in the mail... Yeet !!! This video triggered me big-time.

[@tommygraham1990]

MAKE A DISPUTE WITH THE BANK. At least put up a fight and don’t let the deceptive company get away with this. They built nice products but have decided to be complete assholes in their business practices. Literally. They sent me scratched rail guards and they literally took a black marker to try to cover it up. I called them and they just told me that “we don’t use sharpies to cover up scuffs.” When I told her that that was a fallacy and there’s no way that she can know all of the other employees are doing, she just hung up on me.

[@TheSakufighter]

I can’t ride this board after getting a GT-S Rally Edition.

[@tommygraham1990]

And future motion wonders why people building vescs.