Ontario premier threatens to ban US-made alcohol if Trump tariffs take effect

[@joelpritchard451]

Canada needs to start to kick ass we can no longer be seen as a do nothing country

[@diydarrin]

Get rid of Trudeau, move to fiscally conservative practices and you will stop being seen that way.

[@captainamerica9028]

Just join the US and become a state. What has the Monarchy ever done for you?

[@MichelleBrezinski]

@@diydarrin Buzz off MAGA creep.

[@MichelleBrezinski]

@@captainamerica9028 The USA is going to be crap in a few years... No one will care about you creeps.

[@Heavenly.city007]

😂😂😂😂😂 gtfoh are you gonna kick ass like Drake? Are you really ready for Canada to get humiliated like that because it will. Like Kendrick Lamar said “they not like U.S.” you guys are a bunch of soft snow bunnies. Went to Iraq and Afghanistan with us and I still can’t recall any Canadian heroics. Well I guess maybe they stayed in the rear😂

[@NEVERGOON100]

As a non-alcoholic, this does not effect me.

[@erickanter]

So, every who drinks is an alcoholic.

[@Xx-po1fu]

No electricity in the dead of winter for those swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin that got Trump elected. They probably won't vote republican again.

[@trevor437]

Trump please impose 100% tariffs until Trudeau's gun ban is lifted

[@theaudpod2812]

better yet, have trump stop hand guns from flowing into Canada

[@Jonathan-mw1wq]

You clearly have no idea how tariffs work. Try reading for a change. We pay tariffs, not Canada. 30% of oil, along with lumber and cement, comes from Canada. Do you want to pay more for gas, houses, construction?

[@keithosmond5730]

Listen, ammosexual - we do *not* want American-style shootouts in our streets. *We* should apply 100% tariffs on American goods until *they* stop the flow of illegal guns into Canada. I mean, if we are going to say silly things...

[@theaudpod2812]

@@Jonathan-mw1wq psst.. I'm canadian. I'm not the one paying the tarifs.. lol

[@Jonathan-mw1wq]

@@theaudpod2812@theaudpod2812 My reply was to @trevor437, not you. Did you notice that your name (@theaudpod2812) was not at the beginning of my message? That is how you can tell who the message is for...dummy...lol.

[@MikeHart72]

Our beer is much better anyway

[@HoboDillie226]

Fuck no

[@noid8814]

You're obviously talking about Canadian beer?Not that watered down american piss.

[@hillbillybeerdranker6678]

@@noid8814 Our US beer won the UN contest for the best tasting beer in the world

[@MichelleBrezinski]

American beer, sucks..

[@jasong428]

Oh my what a tragedy.

[@WaylonJohn13]

Thats fine. Cancel every one of their worker permits......

[@stevemcentee2880]

That goes both ways.

[@MrNilknarf2]

Canada needs the U.S more

[@theaudpod2812]

americans can't hunt or fish worth beans. lol.

[@keithosmond5730]

@@MrNilknarf2 Nope. Most of what we get from you, we can easily source elsewhere. The opposite is not necessarily true. This story mentions electricity; *many* northern states buy that from Canada. Not something you could quickly or cheaply replace. You import 99% of all aluminum you use, because you have very few commercially viable deposits. Guess where half of that comes from? If we stop selling to you, there are plenty of other markets for it. But your industries that depend on it will be scrambling for many months trying to find alternate sources - and will pa a premium to get it. How many jobs will that cst the US? How many businesses will go under in the interim? Then there's oil, natural gas, lumber, rare earths, uranium, potash... the list goes on and on. You *need* what we provide. As for what we buy... For 37 of your states, we are the number 1 export market. True for the overall US export market. We are your #1 customer. If we walk away, you'll find out just how much you need us. Tell your bully boy to back off. We stand up to bullies. The pain of this fight will definitely *not* be one-sided, as The Felon seems to think.

[@noid8814]

​@@MrNilknarf2Why with all the other countries all over the world?Maybe we'll find actual allies somewhere else.

[@JacK-cs7kt]

Drill drill drill baby!

[@keithosmond5730]

Drill what? The US already produces more crude than it uses; it is a net exporter. Way more being extracted now than under Trump. But most of what is being pumped is light crude, while most refineries are set up to process heavy crude. So you sell the light and buy heavy. And guess who is your biggest supplier of heavy crude? Drilling more won't solve that. Switching over the existing refineries or building new will take a lot of time and cost tens, if not hundreds, of billions. Trump's tariffs will drive up the cost of that Canadian crude - which will mean higher prices at tthe pumps. We might just add on an export tax, to add to that burden - or simply turn off the tap. Have fun with that.

[@noid8814]

​@@keithosmond5730And the US gets Natural gas for us as well not to mention electricity.

[@keithosmond5730]

@@noid8814 Yup. And so many other things, many of which they simply don't have in sufficient commercial quantities themselves. Like aluminum - 50% of which comes from us. 80% of the potash their farmers use. And so on...

[@dennisb-trains23]

Drill that hole in your noggin.

[@dennisb-trains23]

​@@keithosmond5730well said.

[@gamakris3238]

Guess he don’t want to be Premier anymore.

[@keithosmond5730]

That will give him a significant boost in popularity. Standing up for Canada against a bully is always seen as a positive.

[@robocoe]

Maybe he should address the border question before jumping headlong into a trade war ?

[@keithosmond5730]

@@robocoe The "border question" is his *excuse* - not his *reason.* The border issues he is complaining about are small, and Canaa was already looking into them and starting to act because we know we are going to get *flooded* with migrants once Trump starts his deportations. But the thing is, it is *your* responsibility to control what enters *your* country - just as it is ours to guard againt illegal entry to Canada. Trump is turning international law on its head. So I guess we need to demand that you stop all the drugs, guns, and migrants entering Canada... right? As for *why* Trump has made this his excuse: he has found a loophole - "national security" - that lets him bypass the terms of the USMCA and cut Congress out of the discussion. Same as he did with steel and aluminum last time. This really isn't about the border at all, and no matter what we do, he will insist on more - until the trade war is just too disadvantageous, at which point he will say we met his demands and declare "victory." So the fastest route to that point is retaliation. Make his war hurt America as fast and as hard as possible, to shorten the duration.

[@JAMESRS58]

@@robocoe yes .. maybe Ontario should stop the hoards of immigrants swimming across the St. Lawrence river and Lakes Superior, Huron, Erie and Ontario .. isn’t the US Customs responsible for people crossing at the bridges into the USA ?

[@icgreener]

Ole Canada gettin cocky

[@stevemcentee2880]

Only sticking up for ourselves.

[@aliekatsmom]

​​@@stevemcentee2880 watch your borders then. Protect both sides. Easy

[@jrs55555]

Why not, anyone that supports Trump isn’t all that bright anyway. And that’s the global opinion.

[@keithosmond5730]

Trump is being a bully. We stand up to bullies. We were in both world wars years before the cowardly Americans; we aided our allies rather than waiting until the other side attacked us. And we have backed our allies - including the US - many times in the years since. And now Trump is going after us; trying to torpedo our economy. We won't sit quietly while Trump wages economic war on us, either. If we are going to be hurt, then we will be sure to also inflict pain in retaliation.

[@MichelleBrezinski]

MAGA creep zombies ain't gonna poison us.

[@yourl0nelydreamer]

(canadian here) Cool sounds great i rarely ever drink alcohol 😂 if ever..must be a tregedy for the alcoholics.

[@HiddenGemindasunshine]

So... Most ppl don't even drink Canadian Alcohol 🙄

[@BrettJACOBSEN-e1i]

Stupid. Canadian beer kicks American rocky mountain fish piss any day.

[@MichelleBrezinski]

American beer, beef, milk, and POTUS are filled with poison.

[@kewtd72]

lmao like that matters really. who cares, lets get them off our power grid first and apply 900% tariffs for our oil, gas, steel, lumber

[@rizz_the_dog]

Yes 100% let's double the price of their housing costs to build.

[@hillbillybeerdranker6678]

The only problem Canada has is, the US is the largest producer of Crude oil in the world with 14 million barrels per day production. We also are the largest producer of natural gas and Trump is getting ready to force the EU to buy it from us that we ship with tankers. If they don't buy our gas, they can no longer sell mercedes and BMW's in the US. We also have steel mills in the US and lumber producers that don't want Canadian competition. By stopping the sale of these things, you'll actually help us and our industries.

[@JAMESRS58]

The LCBO is the largest importer of wine and spirits in North America ..

[@rb239rtr]

Largest in the world. A large sale to LCBO can set a winery or distillery onto a good, profitable year.

[@LarryMay-j5r]

Trump should shut down the Canadian boarder

[@dennisjasonbago3659]

you better check your brain, its border not boarder you yank.

[@MichelleBrezinski]

Especially once a new virus infects y'all.

[@MariBella-76]

He should also Tax all American companies 25% more!

[@keithosmond5730]

We are trying to avoid tariffs, as that will just cause inflation in Canada. But there *will* be targeted import bans on things that the US sells us in large quantities but we can easily source elsewhere. And many of us have *already* voluntarily started checking labels an putting anything made in the USA back on the shelf. It won't take long for retailers to get the message and stop sourcing from the US.

[@wendyreed7265]

@@keithosmond5730 Americans will do the same to your products. Don't assume that anything Canada sells the US is not replaceable. I really do hope Canada goes ahead and cuts electricity. The retaliation by the Americans will be painful.

[@icontrolmyownguns2096]

@@keithosmond5730 The 25% tariffs on Canadian things entering the US is a forced boycott on your items. It's gonna make everything from Canada 25% more expensive and few people will buy your things. When Trudeau put a 276% tariff on US drywall, it made it so expensive that we couldn't sell one sheet there. Trudeau also put a 241% tariff on US milk and 289% tariff on US butter, ensuring that couldn't sell any dairy products in Canada. Trudeau just wants free trade when it benefits Canada.

[@keithosmond5730]

@@icontrolmyownguns2096 Lol - you think that only cuts one way? The US, for *decades,* has been hitting our softwood with tariffs. Despite loss after loss after loss when we take you to trade arbitration courts. The US has *never* won that one, yet every time the tariffs get struck down and reparations required, they tweak the wording a bit and do it again. As just the most egregious example; there are others. (I'd like to know the source for those numbers you supplied, BTW.) As for dairy: We have a supply management system here, to ensure our *much smaller* industry is fairly compensated. If we just let your country flood our market with your inferior, hormone and drug laden products, we would have substandard product AND no local industry. We consider maintaining local dairy (and eggs) a critical, core necessity - no country should make itself completely dependent on another for basic foods. Yet, we have increased how much we will allow in, over the years. Maybe we need to completely *ban* your dairy. Don't be surprised if that is part of our retaliation. As for drywall... I'd have to check, but I suspect that was a punitive tariff for Americans selling below cost to take over our market. (I have a vague recollection about that.) Which, of course, would violate pretty much any international trade agreement.

[@mattr272]

More for us 😂 He said it right there, most of American alcohol is made and bottled in Canada. We dont have any molsen bottling in the US ? 🤨

[@sandigee2018]

BC Premier Eby on Trump's tariffs: "I think these are ridiculous. I think we should be working closely with the United States and addressing concerns that they may have. Think they’re completely unjustified. I think both Canadian retaliatory tariffs and American tariffs that bring those retaliations in, that both of them are a huge waste of time, energy, money, productivity, and wealth. And so the idea that we’re headed down this path, to me, makes absolutely no sense."

[@joshu1898]

That tarrif just went up to 50%

[@duanedrouillard2495]

Apparently you don't realize consumers pay tarrifs

[@hillbillybeerdranker6678]

@@duanedrouillard2495 The higher the tariffs on Canada, the less we pay as Americans. A tariff is a tax that makes your products more expensive, it's essentially a forced boycott of your things. If there's a loaf of bread on the shelf made in the US that costs one dollar and a loaf beside it made in Canada that costs 2 dollars, how many people are gonna buy that Canadian bread for double the price. Not many. Then if the tariff is raised even higher, and that Canadian bread costs 5 dollars a loaf, vs 1 dollar for US bread, you won't even have a few people buying it. Once stores realize Canadian products don't sell at those higher prices, they'll stop putting them on their shelves and ordering them from Canada.

[@mdog6726]

Strange Brew vibes.

[@markkawecki7582]

We need to stand up to Trump. Let him know we’re not gonna put up with his BS.

[@sacksis]

Loool. Who cares about your oil? We also can sell plenty of our alcohol without Canada.

[@sacksis]

@@markkawecki7582 maybe we should stop the thousands of workers from coming over the border to work because your wages suck. That would dramatically impact your income taxes

[@keithosmond5730]

@@sacksis Okay then... what will you do when we turn off the electricity in many northern states? What will you do when your supply of aluminum drops by 50% overnight? (Yes, you buy that much from us. And no, you can't sufficiently ramp up domestic production because you have next to no commercially viable ore deposits.) ... just to name a couple of the *many* things you depend on Canada to supply.

[@sacksis]

@keithosmond5730 Your electricty is only consumed because it is green energy. We have backup coal. Mostly in Buffalo. Less aluminum from Canada means more oppurtunity for mines here. Not a big impact in the short term because of its abundance. It is easier for Canada to address problems with drug and human trafficking than it is for them to feel the disproportionate pain we can apply. With tarrifs. Canada is small and it would be smarter for them to just address the concern instead of commiting economic suicide in order to not address drug trafficking and human smuggling.

[@keithosmond5730]

@@sacksis " Less aluminum from Canada means more oppurtunity for mines here." You actually need ore deposits before you can mine something. The reason the US imports 99% of what you use is because *you have no ore.* Not at commercially viable levels, anyway. "Not a big impact in the short term because of its abundance." Outside the US, you mean? Here's the thing: your next-biggest supplier only sells you 1/10th what we do. To supply you with what you need, global suppliers would have to make significant investments to ramp up production, and then ship it from overseas. Having seen how you treated your *best, closest* trading partners, and knowing just how fickle and unreliable Trump is, they will be VERY hesitant to make that kind of investment, out of fear of being stiffed. So, even in a best case sceario where the other suppliers *do* decide to make that investment, it will be months before the supply from them can ramp up and start delivering. "It is easier for Canada to address problems with drug and human trafficking than it is for them to feel the disproportionate pain we can apply." First, you're basing your argument on the false premise that Trump is sincere about the "border problem" - he isn't. He decided to apply the tariffs *first* and then concocted his *excuse.* See, he learned last term that if he says he is applying the tariff for "security reasons" he can sidestep the USMCA and not have to get tangled up with Congress. "Canada is small and it would be smarter for them to just address the concern..." We have a small *population* - but the longest undefended land border on the planet - plus the most seacoast. We were already working on the issue; we started as soon as Trump won, because we expect to be overrun with fleeing migrants once Trump starts his deportation. Trump simply doesn't care; no matter how much we actually *do,* Trump will say it isn't enough. Besides, it is supposed to be *your* responsibility to control what enters your country - not ours. That's how borders work. So... what is America's plan to prevent all the illegal crossings *into* Canada? That number will soon be *far* higher than people heading south. What about the drugs entering Canada from the US? How about the huge flow of illegal guns? See, if we are supposed to block people and goods from leaving Canada, then we expect reciprocal behaviour from the US. Which is not happening. You really have no clue on what the realities of the situation are. I hope the above has filled in some of your knowledge gaps.

[@tracyallen7020]

You show them Dougie. Imagine less booze in Canada 😂Seriously you better tread carefully

[@yourl0nelydreamer]

Must be a tragedy for the fancy drinkerz

[@heresalemonsukonit276]

Only the people drooling on themselves care

[@nickloveridge3667]

Trump what a DOUCHE bag!

[@stephenfermoyle4578]

tru dah created this mess and could be fixed with a snap of a friendship bracelet

[@elessarstrider5210]

Premier drinks to much Elsinore.

[@doveseye.4666]

US cigarettes on day one are off the market.

[@keithosmond5730]

Not that Canadians smoke that crap...

[@rdm1156]

Isn't it funny NO ONE HAS SIMPLY ASKED WHY DON'T YOU WANT THE BORDER CLOSED??

[@arthurcharlesstewart4617]

It will become a Continental Game of Chicken. Who blinks 1st.

[@phibinphilip2491]

Who wants Canadian alcohol

[@RossJames-i6s]

Grade 3?

[@goaliefightclub]

Cheap drunks that like bad whiskey

[@RossJames-i6s]

Better than watered down USA piss.

[@keithosmond5730]

You kinda missed the point. Canada will stop importing American booze - not the other way around (at least to start).

[@DougMccarrel]

Ontario is stopping imports in to Ontario. Check and see how much Ontario imports before you speak. Ontario can import liquor from any where.

[@suzypos4571]

Oh no..say it isn't so 😂

[@stephenfermoyle4578]

so GRADE 5 like that will fix anything...

[@oldmusickillsnew]

Is that really a threat? Most American alcohol sucks, and im American 😂 better threat would be to ban Canadian alcohol coming here. THAT would have an impact

[@Jonathan-mw1wq]

Yes, it is a threat, dummy. If US alcohol sales plummet (and Canada buys a lot of alcohol from us), then those US companies lose profits, which means they pay less to workers or, worse yet, lay off workers.

[@AR-rb8jr]

My question is who supports Justin Trudeau?

[@belle190]

Yikes.. my fav is Honey JD and some amazing Canadian made apple cider.. on the rocks. As I sit back and enjoy the night sky in the hot tub… oh the shame of it all.

[@CashMacGregor]

every kind of alcohol made in the U S is made in canada as well. tariffs in action. should be a boost in canadian sales. and the U S will refuse to stop buying crown royal if trump retaliates.

[@DinHarvey]

This is very bad. In the Canadian history.

[@kushman425]

WTH

[@russpyatt9771]

Cut the electricity that way canada doesn't have to look or listen to Trump and his bullying stupidity.

[@keithosmond5730]

It would be Americans who won't be able to "look or listen to Trump and his bullying stupidity." They will be freezing in the dark. Because we supply electricity to many American border states.

[@wendyreed7265]

The Americans will simply shift electricity from other areas.

[@keithosmond5730]

@@wendyreed7265 Which will take time and cost a lot more.

[@robert48044]

when I was 19 I had a fake id and could skip the Windsor days

[@bllasae]

Lmao that will backfire.

[@keithosmond5730]

No; it's Trump's tariffs that will. And this is but a small taste of the retaliation if Trump follows through with his plan for economic warfare.

[@JacK-cs7kt]

Then no american bourbon

[@--MDX--]

LOL 😂

[@okboomer6201]

Lol close the border to Canada.

[@nonenone4880]

so we can keep maga morons out.

[@rb239rtr]

please, merci

[@duanedrouillard2495]

Good, keep your guns in your country

[@SteveM-fr7tr]

Instead of this nonsense of trying to counter the tariff with cutting the US off something why cant Trudeau just stop letting people into the country send back the 4.9 million temporary immigrants and add some security to the border those steps would solve a lot of Canadas problems ie housing, unemployment, health care, low wages, safer roads and cleaner beaches

[@duanedrouillard2495]

Correct response. Trudeau may be the problem but the runner up might be worse 😢

[@JAMESRS58]

@@SteveM-fr7tr so if that number of temporary immigrants are in this country .. what threat are they to the USA ? The USA did nothing to stop the USA border patrol stopping the people illegally crossing into Canada at Roxham Rd ..

[@MikeyCanuck123]

So instead of dealing with the border problem, Ford goes off the rails. 🤡

[@BB-zq2eo]

I agree Canada should increase its border security and military. However the way everyone is talking I can’t help but believe people don’t understand to go to The USA you go through their customs as well as to go to Canada you go through Canadas customs. So increasing our border security will protect us from problems coming in. The way trump talks is why not build another wall.

[@keithosmond5730]

The "border problem" is Trump's *excuse.* As he discovered last time, there's a loophole WRT trade and tariffs that eliminates a lot of checks and balances for him if he says he's applying them for "security" purposes. Our border isn't really a primary concern for Trump. Further, because we know that his deportation plans will cause a flood of migrants heading to Canada, the Feds were *already* looking at ramping up border security (though they are now moving faster on that). So it really doesn't matter how secure we make the border; Trump will keep moving the goalposts until he realizes that the tariffs are more of a disadvantage than anything - at which point he'll say Canada did as he asked, declare a victory, and remove them. Our job is to cause enough pain, as quickly as possible in retaliation, to speed up Trump's decision to declare "victory."

[@belle190]

Better off then on like his dead bro…

[@hillbillybeerdranker6678]

I think your Ford fell off the wagon and is back to smokin crack

[@serpentphoenix]

Does Doug understand that the electricity threats will hurt democrat states, not republicans? lmfao.

[@keithosmond5730]

Michigan voted Trump, did it not?

[@rb239rtr]

He won't stop electricity. He is completely frustrated with Trump, so he having a hissy fit. But through the LCBO, he can stop the importation of any american alcohol into Ontario.

[@--MDX--]

LOL

[@ATF1985]

😂😂

[@AlTen951]

Imagine having to drink Canadian Club… 😅

[@BB-zq2eo]

Most of Canada’s alcohol is better from obvious beer to whisky.

[@rishabgaba8586]

Imagine dying in cold 🥶 without heat and energy

[@nonenone4880]

not as bad as drinking yank beer

[@NEVERGOON100]

@@rishabgaba8586sounds awesome. Where do I sign up?

[@stevewhitney260]

Wisers is Canadian

[@bucksfan]

Ford and the rest of Canada better do what they're told or the US will teach them a lesson they will never forget.

[@mikeoxlong5843]

I'm hoping Trump annexes Canada and makes it the 51st state. As a Canadian, I'd love to get off the tundra, and move to one of those 1/2 priced houses in Florida or Arizona...

[@ishowreversespeed3470]

You guys held at gun point or something?

[@rebatire6922]

@@mikeoxlong5843 The US probably would need to deal with their own civil war before that happens. Half the US still don't agree with Trump and wouldn't let him be so reckless. That's still a good chunk of their population.

[@camer4077]

Good one 😂

[@northernchristine7370]

In hockey terns Ontario’s about to cross check Trump’s fat ass into the boards when 1.5 million Americans lose electricity in mid Jan. Hope you’ve got warm blankets.

[@denniskimpton9981]

Get them Trump don't let up make them pay for everything😊

[@house2homeplus511]

Trump will punish Doug ford for his tariffs threats

[@keithosmond5730]

Dumba$$ - Trump was the one who *started* this. You think we are going to stand meekly by while he wages economic war on us? Ford's comments here are but the tip of the iceberg, as far as retaliation goes. The more Trump hurts us, the more we hurt the US. No one wins these things, but you can bet we will make sure the US feels our pain. War is war, whether military or economic. We won't let Trump walk over us without a fight. Get ready for a bruising.

[@duanedrouillard2495]

Do you think trump a convicted felon is king of the world, you must be American 😅

[@StuntDonk]

What about all the illegal workers working in Canadian factories exporting goods to USA?

[@keithosmond5730]

LOL!!! We don't have an illegal worker prioblem... that's an *American* phenomenon. And we (sadly) have fewer factories than you do. Most of what we sell you are things essential to *your* economy - lots of energy and raw materials that you can't easily get elsewhere. Certainly not at competitive prices. For example, you have next to no aluminum ore. You import 99% of what you use - and half of that comes from Canada. What happens to all the jobs that depend on a reliable, continuous stream of aluminum if we just *stop selling it* to you? Just one of *many* examples. Try learning what you're talking about before posting; you look less like a fool that way.

[@kennyh5083]

Oh oh, maple syrup and Canadian bacon are going up!

[@KarmaWillCome]

Electricity, fuel, paper, lumber....yeah they are all going up. Enjoy.

[@goaliefightclub]

Maybe we can stop flooding our steel markets with inferior Canadian structural steel, that crap is everywhere and it's inferior. American structural is better but we can't compete with the cheap Canadian mills.

[@KarmaWillCome]

@goaliefightclub it's so inferior America uses the steele and aluminum in their jets and tanks.👌

[@goaliefightclub]

@KarmaWillCome government contractor bidding always goes with the lowest bids, cutting costs is the name of the game for defense contractors and their shareholders. I was wondering why the stripped down Abrams tanks have been performing so poorly in ukraine, seems like the armor was just not made well. Hopefully the next generation of Abrams tanks will use Pittsburgh steel, but the government's head shed will always go with the cheapest options.

[@KarmaWillCome]

@goaliefightclub Better scrap the fleet. It's in more then that. But okay.

[@goaliefightclub]

Let the trade war begin Canucks!

[@MikeHart72]

Americans will feel the pinch like they’ve never imagined. Of course MAGATS will point their finger everywhere except the actual reason….Trump

[@RossJames-i6s]

Grade 6? That would make you a republican, then.

[@duanedrouillard2495]

Trump just opens his hateful mouth and you jump right in. Some fucking neighbor you are. Jerk