"OO Gauge Is for KIDS" and Other Nonsense! (5 Model Railway Myths) | Iron Horse Weekly ep88

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[@oopster74]

The only person gatekeeping me is me, but when I see what others do in less space, it blows my mind!

[@IronHorseRailways]

Damn right! It's impressive what some folks can do!

[@lynganddistrict]

"It's just somewhere to hang your imagination on" --- I am going to take that, print it and have that up on my wall in my shed - brilliant - and thanks for the chat! and update. Regards Steve

[@IronHorseRailways]

Hi Steve, can't take credit - I'm sure it was Charlie 😂😊

[@KidarWolf]

What's stopped me was a combination of space, money, and time. I'm finally at a point where some of those constraints are less of a barrier than they once were. If I could give advice to any modeler, whether it's model railways, or something else, it's that there are always viable solutions to problems, if you're creative enough. You may have to make compromises, but even the "community suggested solutions" inherently involve compromise, very often that compromise is expense. It's possible to replicate the expensive off-the-shelf solutions to problems by investing time in learning a skill and doing it yourself. On the subject of layout sizes, the smallest, well thought out, layouts can be very satisfying. That's the entire point of the Marmite-like inglenook shunting puzzle - to squeeze in something that lets you run simple shunting operations in a tiny space. If railfanning and having trains go round and round is your thing, you can make it work with a pizza layout. Pizzas aren't something I'd enjoy running myself, I get more fun out of operations personally, but I've seen many a beautiful pizza at model railway shows that gave me inspiration. In my personal opinion, a 6x8 board is inherently much more limiting than thinking outside of the board's dimensions, if you have the space to do so, try turning it into a 3x16 or 4x12 layout instead. Just one cut through the middle of your 6x8 board gives you two more options. It's the same amount of space on paper, but in practice, you will probably find that the different dimensions offer opportunities for scenery that might work better for what you envision in your head. If you do this in OO or HO, you're very likely going to end up with it being a point-to-point rather than a continuous loop, however, due to minimum sensible radii, unless, as was mentioned in the video, you opt for short locos and rolling stock, so if a continuous loop is your goal, just be mindful that 3x16 probably doesn't offer what you want, though 4x12 still might. Finally, if you see a layout you like, try sketching it out as a logic flow chart, and store that away for later reference. Every line on your flow chart represents a run of track, every box a station or industry, and every diamond a set of points or slips. It might amaze you just how few layout designs there actually are when you start drawing out track diagrams that way. What makes the difference, is how you choose to space things out, and what scenery you choose to model around the rails. If you do start sketching existing layouts like this, it can give you inspiration for layout planning by following the same process. If you know what industries you want to serve, put those on some post-it notes or index cards, then stick them to a pinboard, or magnet them to your fridge, and use string to join them together to help start figuring out what you need as far as pointwork goes.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Great points 👍 Especially about smaller layouts! Cheers!

[@charlescrompton2009]

Wow Top Man I agree with what you say. I have built several layouts small and large 30 feet square ones I have never used a Soldering Iron once. My layout now is N Gauge 8 foot by 3 foot. And a 00 Gauge in the planning stage 6 feet by 18 Inches. Model Railways have been my saving Grace. Especially after my wife died twenty five years ago when my Daughter was inly three. So single parent bringing up my daughter and working a full time job. Hard work but very rewarding. The Various layouts over the years kept me going mentally. Now 68 and still enjoy designing layouts and building them. Started when I was five. I was born in North Yorkshire but have lived in the South nany years my Yorkshire friends say I have been Southernised. 😂 Best wishes Richard Canterbury.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Once a Yorkshire man, always! 😂

[@davemoore5222]

When someone “counts their own rivets”, that’s fine. The problem arises when they start “counting other people’s rivets”.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Nail, head, spot on Dave!

[@emdB67]

Can't argue with that. Well, I guess some still would. 🤣

[@ModelRailwayFan38]

I’ve heard people say that OO Gauge is silly since the body is too big for the chassis, but I’ve never heard people call it “for kids”. Ridiculous what some people say😂😂

[@IronHorseRailways]

You hear all kinds of nonsense 😂

[@BritishRail60062]

Just enjoy the hobby buddy. Ignore the rest. I do OO and HO scale trains.

[@ModelRailwayFan38]

@@BritishRail60062 couldn’t agree more!

[@LuTestcrew]

I’m just waiting for Harold road to run Thomas the tank engine with a T rex in the trees just to get the haters raging 😂😂

[@IronHorseRailways]

Chaos will reign on that day 😂

[@HaroldRoad]

If you watch the latest video from Harold Road...Dinosours make an appearance 😊

[@johnjmc]

Byway MPD is a very well known exhibition layout that Is 4ft6in x 1ft. You don't need a massive boards. One of the big mistakes I see is track that covers every bit of the baseboard. Keep it simple. 😊

[@IronHorseRailways]

Mate that's super true, to be fair I can see the reasoning behind it - more track = more to do, but, unless it's something like a huge yard it just ends up detracting from the story the layout tells! Byway is a great example of what can be done with limited space! ❤️

[@StormmyStormmy]

Hi, great video content from a very genuine level headed model railway hobbyist, you are very correct in what you say about what modellers can run on their layouts, purists are purists in every walk of life wether it’s classic cars or model railways, run what you like if it’s your layout and the mixing of different eras will not make the police to knock on your front door, your layout your rules so enjoy it to the max, thanks for sharing.

[@IronHorseRailways]

My pleasure stormy, glad you enjoyed it mate 😊

[@scotabot7826]

HO/OO scale is the most common and most loved scale worldwide!! I love the size of N scale too, but there are a million reasons why I model HO, and would never model N scale. I sure don't knock anyone ever, for modeling N scale, or any other scale for that matter. Though I'll never understand the fanatic, hard scale modeler who get's everything absolutely realistic, then uses 3 rail track. I'll never understand that one.

[@stevebear6295]

awesome video love the positivity.

[@jimmanyk]

OO brought out my inner 4 year old! 2019. I had a paddy when I, half cocked started, the old Triang and Hornby "Play value" accessories were a things from a time long gone! Don't get me started on the prices these days!

[@IronHorseRailways]

Still some good value at there mate just need to look is all 😁

[@jimmanyk]

@@IronHorseRailways Static grass on the great model railway challenge got me "going", you can keep your flock! "HOW MUCH!" for the applicator, to late by then, I'd got a couple or so train sets by then! Unfortunately I'm not a scenery modeler, no artistic inclinations, can't draw water without it going every where! Nice to watch what I've got going round and round. You can keep DCC & TTS! I did get a loco with a "scrat box" tender chuffer, that did bring out the inner 4 year old! the abrasive fell off, not all bad news, you can only take so much! Barrie Davis has a brilliant layout, though he seems to have turned up missing, I didn't realise OO was a narrow gauge representation? Barrie loves a good rivet counter. My train set my rules! If only I was any good!

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@jimmanyk I'm my own worst critic, but so long as you can enjoy what you've done then that's good enough! 😊

[@simontrainsmodelrailway]

I'm a flocking kind of guy 😂 nice update to the N Gauge Layout and agree on those points and these Box Files project also prove on the size for the Model railways that you don't need a massive layouts

[@IronHorseRailways]

Cheers Cyber Drains 😂❤️

[@ianstransporthistorystuff8175]

My latest railway is a very small ' Inglenook ' style one ,and coming on , I would love to get hold of a old hornby flying Scotsman and rename it Flying Haggis ,and paint it purple and then watch these people having a meltdown,as they don't seem to get it , like if you own a real loco ! It's yours and you can paint it what ever colour you like , as it's called having fun and letting your imagination run wild and free😊

[@IronHorseRailways]

Hnmmmmm flying haggis you say ...😂

[@tonybell9930]

Excellent video with great advice and comments. And a true light bulb 💡 moment with the removable elevated area, especially seeing how you’d made it. Pause video, screenshot, and replicate on my layout. Everyday’s a school day.👍 I’m now off to find who Double o Dave is

[@IronHorseRailways]

Enjoy, glad I could be of some small assistance mate 😊

[@stephenmarshall9574]

I’m pleased to hear that I’m not the only one with pixies. They have a penchant for my tweezers and my back to back gauge. They also rush out and grab anything that I drop on the floor. Especially the very small things. Your layout is looking pretty good. Keep up the good work.

[@IronHorseRailways]

They're little bleeders man!😂 Always having my toys away! Cheers!

[@DYLINGTONMODELRAILWAY]

Our little OO guage layout is 5'9"x 3'8" with a mixture of new and second-hand locos, rolling stock, and buildings. We've managed to get a lot of details on it. It's actually built for my grandson and is our first attempt at a model railway. He does film it for his Dylington Model Railway channel, and the videos are purely for fun ... Cheers James 🙂👍

[@IronHorseRailways]

It's always about fun!

[@DYLINGTONMODELRAILWAY]

@IronHorseRailways my grandson is 12, and we have hours of fun with model railways, building, filming, and playing 😁👍

[@adrian_cooney]

The new layout is coming along nicely. As always great discussion points re getting started in the hobby. Once you do get started you can learn so much and it's a great way to unwind.

[@IronHorseRailways]

It's a slippery slope mate, but a fun one!🐸

[@DevonGeorge85]

Unless you view see any criticism as constructive then just ignore it and the person dishing it out. We're all rubbish when we first set out on our modelling journey so don't be afraid to make mistakes. It's your railway, your hobby, enjoy it as you see fit.

[@dragon-junction-MK2]

Cheers Craig.

[@IronHorseRailways]

All the best Al!

[@Flymochairman1]

Aye, it's what the power clips were for and usually all comes in the box these days. Nice one fella! Cheers!

[@andydavidson9440]

Keep breaking down those barriers aka myths Craig and thanks for pointing me in the direction of John at Harold Road…where are your dinosaurs hiding? 😉 the N gauge layout is really taking shape, you must be multi skilled, to rant and model at the same time?

[@IronHorseRailways]

I actually had dinosaurs on my last big oo layout before I had to downsize 😂

[@wolvertoncentresidings5676]

Theres only two things anyone needs to start railway modelling., imagination and a little spare cash. Ive seen fantastic layouts built on scraps of wood and using every day items modified to suit. I think the problem is that there is so much fantastic ready to place/run products out these days that some people assume you need loads of cash and space.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Yeah you'd be forgiven for thinking that it's almost a credit card based hobby at times !

[@rogerwolstenholme2710]

Regarding layout sizes... some years ago there was a group called " The 15in Group "... their max width baseboard was 15".... the various track plans involved travelling along to various locations i.e. stations ,sidings industries etc..... it really stimulated the imagination... it was 00 gauge... It made you feel like the railway was going somewhere, to do something... you could do modules of any length... something like that is done today but the narrow width appealed to me... takes all sorts I guess.

[@IronHorseRailways]

That's a great idea for small spaces though!

[@supstersmodelrailways3202]

I think it’s only me that stops me. Not any so called gate keepers. I’ve been putting off ballasting my layout for 20 years as see so many good and bad ones, I just want a good one. Anyways, by the way I’ve noticed that your N gauge flock is 0.00001mm to high in the quarter inch block to the top left hand bottom quadrant of the upper section at the bottom. Have fun fella!

[@IronHorseRailways]

Quadrantal tolerances noted mate 😂

[@Jaherick]

Run what you want on whatever size layout you want. Sometimes just a bit of track on a board is enough. Even for some the dreaded carpet/floor maybe the only way to enjoy the hobby.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Yeah absolutely, if things arhe that bad then crack on!

[@bentullett6068]

I agree with what you are saying. Not only do model railway's have gatekeeping but preserved railways will always get some flack off these types who were hoping to see the correct locomotive with the correct rolling stock. Or as in the case of last year at the Severn Valley Railway the painting of Taw Valley into Purple and then into wartime black. It really got some of them really upset.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Exactly mate, very little need to get so irate lol

[@zebharris5233]

Another great video of common sense. Ever since i was a child, i always loved trains. While at school i would skive and go to the local train station. I would never tell anyone that i loved trains. A secret train spotter really!. When i first got married, I came out and told my wife at the time that i would like to build a model railway. She was not impressed, but i made a start. Made a large layout but never got to the point of the scenic side. We got divorced and the ex and her solicitor would not allow me to keep the locos and stock. It all at to go into the pot for the courts and everything had to be sold. I left with just two black bags. After many years i met my Norwegian wife and started rebuilding a model railway. I am at the point now for the scenic part, which i am excited about. I am a very ,very young 62, in fact i should still class myself as a 61year old. What i wanted to say was that throughout the years it was a secret hobby, my fault i know. Now watching all these videos and getting some advice from you, John and the scrap line videos as inspired me and others. I am very happy listening to a younger person who a better knowledge, and finds another way of doing things I am not an expert and i do not care. This is for my pleasure. It feels great coming out of the closet. I am not building a layout to please the rivet counters. Carry on the great work... Sorry it is long winded.

[@IronHorseRailways]

No need to be secretive anymore mate, enjoy it and live your best life!😊

[@zebharris5233]

I am now. Thankyou and others for your help.

[@PaulSmith-pl7fo]

Hi Zeb. I'm so sorry that your ex & solicitor were so petty!

[@zebharris5233]

Thanks Paul.much happier now.

[@modelrailpaulcee]

Keep blowing the myths and the know alls out of the water, Craig! Funny, I’m doing O, as well as OO9 and, sometimes, I think the larger scales can look more toy-like - not just O, but even larger scales too - perhaps I just have a warped outlook on modelling!

[@IronHorseRailways]

I suppose it's all very relative mate, I'm looking forward to starting 009 and O this year too!😍

[@scotabot7826]

I completely agree with you. The larger the scale, the less scale (more toyish) the model is, in my opinion. The only thing that matters is if the person spending the money is happy.

[@stephendavies6949]

Perhaps I'm naive, but when I see people like Chadwick, SamsTrains, Jenny Kirk, Everard Junction, New Junction, Jubilee Road & yourself sharing knowledge, then I think there's far more positivity than negativity in the hobby. Trouble is, it only takes a few negative comments to hurt & dishearten content creators, which is why I never post negative comments. If I decide that certain content is not for me, I just don't watch it. Regarding this video, I agree with you. I'd never soldered anything until I returned to the hobby a couple of years ago. Now, after some practice, I'm at the "rank amateur" level!

[@IronHorseRailways]

Well said Steven, there's a lot of bitterness about it and, it needs to end really!

[@stephendavies6949]

@IronHorseRailways Yes. If I were a content creator, I know receiving negative comments - as opposed to constructive suggestions - would deter me from sharing very quickly. I would say to myself, "I don't need this hassle/abuse", and just stop.

[@presidentxd]

I'm in dublin so I now buy irish stuff.when started out bought cheaper stuff on ebay .I repainted old coaches to irish colours.i think most start off that way before they settle on an era or layout style.im scratchbuilding sheds and signal boxes that are in dublin Thing is iv never built a layout.just having too much fun building and painting stuff.i put an oval of track on dining table if want a train to run.illget round to a layout eventually. Keep up with what you are doing .we for the most part are a good community.be a few bad eggs in every hobby.fuck em. Cheers Dara

[@IronHorseRailways]

Bad eggs make a sour omelette mate!

[@ted.slotcardaddy]

great vid and subject, you said it perfectly, the creator uses imagination to create and the viewer in return will use use their imagination while watching. There is no formula for imagination "it is what it is" we just have to tap into it. great work on your layout it looks awesome.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Thanks ted!😊

[@GarthDavies-cd5oh]

Good video and comments. Nothing wrong with Hornby Railroad. All can be detailed by the modeller which is something I like to do .

[@Dave-im8xr]

I think taking part is more important than being 100% right

[@IronHorseRailways]

Any layout is better than No layout!!

[@mels1811]

Excellent video

[@IronHorseRailways]

Cheers Mels!

[@nigelcole1936]

Well said sir, I dislike anyone who belittles others thinking they have a higher level of knowledge or skills - happens to much in this hobby and many others soon. Layout looking great..

[@IronHorseRailways]

I'm starting to think it's part of human nature to a degree, some of us have learned to quiet down that part while others let it scream at a screen 😂

[@nigelcole1936]

@@IronHorseRailways we should teach and mentor people, like you do, not belittle and bully those who might know less than us or just simply have a different viewpoint.

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@nigelcole1936 not always that easy mate I'm afraid

[@nathanbowers6364]

I model the Isle Of Wight but it's not a super scale exhibition layout(it's a what could've been). It's got kitbashed locos and stock including Triang clerestories with new card roofs to look like island coaches, repainted old Hornby wagons, repainted new/nearly new EFE and Hornby locos and even kit and converted models I've had done specially. What the gatekeepers would turn their noses up at would the fact it's hand of God points, Hornby hand controller with power clip (hidden under a piece of static grass mat), built on reinforced B and Q pine shelves resting on Stanley trestles in my garage.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Ah very cool mate, don't see many iow layouts!

[@nathanbowers6364]

@@IronHorseRailways even less running on Hornby track and a controller from a late '80s "Mighty Mallard" set..

[@christopherstubbs8130]

I suspect the whole 6' x 4' OO thing really only applies to larger steam locos. My entry into model railways was a diesel Freightmaster set (it must be twenty years old now) which quite happily works on first radius - although the fixed axle wagons will derail if you go too fast!

[@IronHorseRailways]

I usually derail if I go too fast to be fair mate 😂

[@ModelRailwayFan38]

Most steam locos work on second radius or tighter, so I’m not sure.

[@tonyrobinson362]

Ive just bought a 66 samaritans special and i model 70s/80s era run what you want.

[@LocomotionMotion]

Are we all not just big kids? Let your inner child play trains 🚂🚋🚟 PS: my soldering skills are a constant balancing act between joining wires and burning the house down 🔥

[@IronHorseRailways]

Same as mine then 😎

[@Hal-Zuzzu_Model_Railway]

Thanks for sharing and yes, I agree with all you said!

[@PaulSmith-pl7fo]

Hi Craig. Soldering: It *does* take quite a lot of practice, especially in the smaller scales. But, as you say, it does come with great benefits and modellers need to give it a go. Scale: I doubt that many would advise beginners to start with the larger scales; it *can* be done, but they tend to be rather more expensive than the smaller gauges. I would say that OO gauge would suit younger modellers for some of the reasons you mentioned, but but it's *not* just for kids. Locomoting? What a charming verb! HSTs pulling freight? Weird - but hey, Rule 1 applies. I've touched on this before: I think those who deliberately post heavily negative comments *should* be named and shamed. I modelleres can immediately recognise the names of the nay sayers, then the comments can be ignored without ever being read!

[@IronHorseRailways]

Exactly mate

[@PaulSmith-pl7fo]

I have just received this email "Graham Plowman I would agree that OO is a good starting point. With regards the commenters, what exactly are saying ? If you want to use an HST power car to pull freight, that's entirely up to you, but I think we all know it didn't happen when they were in revenue service, so why would you try to 'defend' that ? Why would you get upset about it if someone pointed it out ? Seems to me like some people want to live in denial and are prepared to defend it ! ", but when I clicked on Reply, there is no post from a Graham Plowman! Craig/KZbin: did you remove it? He seems to be contradicting himself; he says it is up to the modeller whether s/he uses an HST to pull freight - and I entirely agree, as I said in my post. He then goes on to accuse/criticise me for defending that view! I'm not in denial (honestly!) and just said it was weird to see (doesn't anyone else think so?). And I *still* say, Rule 1 applies!

[@clivengauge]

Great video agree with you all the way i buy locos i like don't care what age they are for .the layout is looking good do like watching how you do things thank you for sharing 👍

[@IronHorseRailways]

Thanks for watching mate 😁

[@emdB67]

Having been in the hobby for a little over half a century (and still learning), I can't say I've ever heard any of these 'myths' directly, although I have no doubt that there are people who say these things for whatever reasons of their own that they might have. 🙄 Soldering - a useful skill to have (and not difficult to learn), but certainly not needed in order to build a model railway, having built quite a few myself without any soldering being required. Although I can certainly solder when it's a better option. I've only ever built one layout that used a bus feed - and that was O gauge using Aluminium code 100 rail. As the layout was built on doors, and due to the way they all stacked together for exhibition use, the wiring was copperfoil tape on top of the boards (but covered by the scenery). As the rail could not be soldered in the usual way, I ran a feed from the copperfoil bus to every rail joiner. 30 years later, still no dead spots. But no other layout I've built has used or needed a bus feed system. That said, I'm currently helping resurrect a layout donated to a local car museum and we're going with a power bus for that as it just makes the most sense. While I've never heard that you need at least a 6 x 4 (or whatever size) board, I do frequently hear people say that they don't have space for a model railway. And I find that there's always space if you really want it. I mentioned O gauge before, but I've worked in pretty much all model railway scales except TT and S. My smallest layouts are a T gauge layout on a hat - which I have worn to a model railway exhibition complete with the train running. And I have an N scale micro layout which last year was set up on the tray table of an Airbus A350-900. Very limited operation admittedly, but it proves that you can fit a layout anywhere. Nice work on the N layout too. 😊 I'm in Australia, but had an 8 x 4 British steam N scale layout in the 1980s. One that I now wish I'd kept.

[@IronHorseRailways]

I Used to have a wagr diesel a few years ago, was a lovely loco 😊

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great vid Craig. Sadly that excellent quote regarding imagination, belongs to someone else. Stay cheerful mate, Regards Charlie

[@IronHorseRailways]

Afternoon Charles! - Well, that's a shame - it certainly sounds like something you'd say, full of wisdom and sense! Be well mate Cheers!❤️

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re too kind, hopefully see you at the NEC in April.

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@ChadwickModelRailway I'll certainly try, unlikely though due to work schedule 😔😔😔😫😫😫

[@carolinerogers1057]

Great video u are totally right we have different scales of layouts and we run whatever we want with whatever we want to put behind a train take no notice of whatever anyone else its your railway your rules lol

[@user-fn1bh3qr6m]

Another weekly helping digested. Nice running shots at the end. Nice to see the cheap alternative to plaster cloth on the embankment, does it dry to as hard a shell if you use enough layers of paper as the plaster alternative?. As I hope you know from previous comments I’ve left on your excellent channel, and being bang on topic for once; I’m not a rivet counter or gatekeeper. But this episode that has to change I’m afraid. Sorry but in the opening shot to camera by the window I was drawn, whilst listening to your opening remarks to what I can only describe as an unacceptably long hair on the left of your head. It appeared “out of gauge” to its counterparts and not at all “prototypical” of the style portrayed. I’m sure someone out there will be able to advise you of how to remedy this oversight, but may I suggest a small pair of pointy metal scissors should do the trick. Maybe those plastic ones with inset metal blades if you are new to this hairdressing hobby or need to be supervised with sharp implements !!!Ha 😂 😝 😆 ! How’s that ha ha….. nice to see OO Dave video running in the background… I find him amusing as well as informative, a real unique railway modeling channel that’s fun and a bit different. He also mentioned you this week. Keep up the good work Craig.

[@IronHorseRailways]

It drys hard enough for holding things like scatter and grass mate, not sure if it would support a building etc :)

[@shakeyhandsshedmodelrailwa2494]

if you really want to you'll do it ,, my last 2 layouts have been 21'x4.5' and 15'x4' but i have also built a oo layout just over A4 size , my first layout was on a 6x4 i knicked off a building site , the only thing that stops you is yourself , the great thing about this hobby is that there is a scale , layout size and price to suit everyone

[@HighFell]

On scales, don’t forget we also have TT:120 available with an ever growing superbly detailed range of British stock. It’s opened up possibilities for a lot of modellers. Another myth that needs busting; DCC is very complicated, it’s as easy as falling off a log if you want it to be. 😁

[@IronHorseRailways]

That's a good one, can be tricky too 😂

[@hamshackleton]

Loading shed ramp - that gap where the 'paving slabs' have peeled back a bit spoils the appearance, but if you get some weed (not that kind!) or grass in there, that will disguise it nicely. - - That grass edge hanging over the sidewall of the tunnel is too straight, it needs to be more ragged so it doesn't look like it was trimmed with a razor! 🙂 - - If you run a 'Heritage' line, you can run a real mix of odds and ends - look at any of the small 12"/foot ones and see for yourself.

[@IronHorseRailways]

I'm not sure if you're being a rivet counter on purpose or ironically here 😂

[@hamshackleton]

@@IronHorseRailways Definitely not counting rivets - (I didn't see any, anyway!) I carefully added my slightly wrinkly back-scene to the railway, just now. The bottom edge was dead straight - but it serves to show how much the board has 'settled' since I built it, several years ago - there's a 1/2" gap in the middle of the six foot length - in between the 2 x 1 frame and legs!! Now, do I scrap the whole lot, and start again, or make do? decisons decisions!

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@hamshackleton make do mate, I can't bring myself to deal with a back scene at the moment 😂

[@hamshackleton]

@@IronHorseRailways They never go flat for me, no matter how I do it!

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@hamshackleton I've found it easier to just use something like a dot and dab method with caulking or similar, it doesn't sit flat to the back, but it doesn't ripple either...

[@BritishRail60062]

I said it before and I will always say this. The hobby is for you to enjoy it as you see fit. Want to run UK model trains on the right hand side of the tracks like Germany and the US etc? Do it! It doesn't matter how you run your model railway and trains just as long as you enjoy the hobby which is most important. OO gauge is for everyone. Whoever it was who says its just for kids only is just an ill informed sausage! I have a handful of HO and OO gauge model trains.

[@csxrensville5105]

Nice work on the embankment.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Cheers Csx, N gauge American layout next 😊😂

[@csxrensville5105]

@IronHorseRailways No, no & no again. If your doing American, go HO, it's the only way to go! See what I did there? Bit of rhythming. Who'd have thought it. I'm a Poet, and didn't know it! 😂😂

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@csxrensville5105 well I had some HO stock but it's too big for what I want to do in the space I have! So N is the way forward for that I think...

[@csxrensville5105]

@IronHorseRailways If your going to the Crewe show on the 23rd of June I have a couple of N scale American freight cars you can have. Plus Ashton Model Centre has some N scale freight cars in his bargin box. I saw them last Friday.

[@pauljonnson1181]

Well I've got my layout in my flat living room sits on top of a paste table it's 6x4 and I enjoy it and have fun so I could not care less what anyone thinks

[@IronHorseRailways]

Spot on Paul, I'm flat living too,.and live a full and rich model railway ilway life 😂

[@DangerAngelous]

Children's wallets(if they even have them over pocket money at all) might disagree with that

[@paulprice3656]

Hi Craig great video. I run what I want on my layout cause at the end of the day unless you on KZbin or taking to shows they is only me going to see it

[@Lamp_2155]

I know it has always been intended in a positive manner but I have experienced being told that the wagons I’m looking at don’t fit the “era” I model. I’m odd in that I love generic industrial type stuff but also 1950s BR and go back and forth. Focusing on one era may help but you *can* have two layouts that aren’t similar in any way. Or you just run whatever you like.

[@ModelRailwaysUnlimited]

Excellent points! What is going on with this hobby, why so many issues. Horrified to hear people are actually being bullied like this. It's perfectly possible to suggest things without being an arse about it and in fact my personal position is, if they are not asking don't tell them unless it might be unsafe, but how often is that the case. By the way my layout is 6X4 lol

[@IronHorseRailways]

6x4 😁 show off!

[@ModelRailwaysUnlimited]

lol lol and it's foldable hahahahahaha @@IronHorseRailways

[@johnstephens649]

Wise words once again! However does the term “plastic Yorkshireman” imply regional rivet counting? 😂😂😂

[@IronHorseRailways]

More like whippet counting...😂

[@zivadivathedog9392]

Mmmmmm I am not a rivet counter but I must comment on a couple of items. Power bus good practice even on a small layout. You don’t mention cost important now as you will be aware from you bills. Jenny Kirk mentioned a Hornsby railroad emu at £160 as being cost effective buy for the beginner. I could go on. A challenge a small layout with a set track plan of your choice inc rolling stock. The person who achieves with the minimum cost is the winner. Go on.

[@IronHorseRailways]

Are you taking part too? I've already got several projects on the go so 😂

[@doubleodave]

😄 another myth is you can’t model N gauge with jumbo sausage fingers 👍 beautiful TV scenes there pal! Ps 15:58 what’s this meat PVA sounds delicious! Ps plastic Yorkshireman 😮😮😮

[@IronHorseRailways]

Yes meat PVA, it's packed full of meaty goodness! And yes, I like to have a fellow KZbinr playing in the background, so well done for making the cut!😂

[@doubleodave]

I’m honoured pal, tools decent on a TV 👍👍

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@doubleodave anyway are you a Yorkshireman or not?😂 I need to know!!!

[@doubleodave]

@@IronHorseRailways of course 👍 South Yorkshire

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@doubleodave yeah thought it was south, practically Lincolnshire 😂

[@malcolmmoore5260]

I would slightly disagree with you on one point. If you are beginning I would stay away from second hand until you feel braver. I have some fantastic models that I got from places like Ebay and train shows at really good prices but some of them need a awful lot of TLC

[@IronHorseRailways]

Even experts can fall victim to bad used models mate :( this is where going to a reputable model shop who sells used items comes into its own! ❤️

[@malcolmmoore5260]

@@IronHorseRailwaysI think my problem is I have 'Golum syndrome' - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6uQaXaJlp6roJo - Once I have a model even if its a bag of nails I can't send it back :-)

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@malcolmmoore5260 😂 my precious!!❤️❤️

[@little_britain]

Wait, did you just do a "no true Yorkshireman" right after calling out gatekeeping? Also I am pretty sure Dave is Yorkshire through and through. I was wondering about your accent though, perhaps West Yorkshire?

[@IronHorseRailways]

Proper Yorkshire 😎

[@alanwagstaff16]

Look there is only one gauge that is authentic 4ft 8ins 1/1 scale . And you won't be fitting that on a 6 x 8 board.

[@IronHorseRailways]

😂 well... You've also got broad gauge...;)

[@HighFell]

I think you will find you forgot the 1/2” (said in the rivet counter nasal drone)

[@lucitonstjames3925]

Impressionism & compromise are the bedrock of railway modelling. in 00 how many of us use HO scale track, so the compromise starts straight away, curves suited only for LRT, points that are to sharp etc, the facts are we have to condense stuff down to get things to fit & work & creating the impression is the fun / challenge of the hobby. Not a single soldered bit of wire on LSJ, all the classic wrapping of bare ends of wire together to light it all up & power it. Only soldering i do is on the wires in the Lima locos when they come undone now & again. The idea you need to be a expert in soldering / electronics & wiring to enjoy model railways is for the birds. Just far to much baloney & bull in this hobby peddled by half wits & purists. This purist ideal that some seem to chase is the road to hell, you build it , run it & enjoy it however you like & if somebody else doesnt like it well tough titty. On our channel we have the comments off , my 12 yr old is who mainly films & uploads stuff & he doesnt need the hassle that would come. The N gauge coming along nicley there. Would love somebody to develop a smoke unit for the class 17 so that it belched out thick plumes of black smoke

[@IronHorseRailways]

Smoke for N is a really difficult concept for me - it's super duper fiddly

[@PeachyTT120]

Party hat🎉 party hat🎉 party hat🎉 yay!!!!

[@IronHorseRailways]

Party hat 🎉🎉🎉

[@raymondleggs5508]

Top 👍

[@Ianshandle999]

Rule 6 : it’s not a model railway unless it’s a GWR branch line in the 1930s.

[@IronHorseRailways]

THE KING OF FACTS! 😂😂

[@Ianshandle999]

And I started model railing in swindon@@IronHorseRailways

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@Ianshandle999 bonus points too mate 😂

[@user-fn1bh3qr6m]

Don’t like where that cut off for read more…. It’s not nasty I promise 😂

[@IronHorseRailways]

😂😂❤️

[@carltontweedle5724]

The thing is it yours not there's Was there not a song I DID MY WAY. I have a little shunting layout. Some of the wagons would never have run together but all I can afford. I do not care I play trains.

[@davidmathie9512]

Biggest myth . Its a horrendously expensive hobby . No its not .I have picked up locos for under £30 on e bay DCC ready or £50/£60 pound chipped . A bit of detailing and weathering and they look good . Also coaches /wagons for £10 . Its as expensive as you make it .

[@IronHorseRailways]

Expensive as you want it to be!

[@therealdeal6846]

To make an exact replica of an exact railway is no easy feit!!!..whole reason for modelling is to use your imagination and make as how you want it not how people with loads of time on their hands do it!!!...i pride myself on coming away from real life and make modelling a place to escape reality but i do keep it within the time era ie 70s 80s 90s..well to the best of my ability i do run some steam engines also i have both English and N.Ireland rolling stock!!!..but the Layout isnt an exact copy of anything its how i wanted it to fit the space i have so i could run a mainline and have a main Station and a station to stop at half way round!!..its not about the scenery or the layout its about playing with the trains!!!..enjoyed watching thks for posting!!👍

[@IronHorseRailways]

Make it fit I what I say! Cheers mate!

[@edwardsexby3402]

Spot on, mate. I really enjoyed watching you transform the embankment - I'm just starting back in the hobby, so top tips for me. Great looking layout, too, btw. Cheers from a very wet and windy Cornwall!

[@IronHorseRailways]

Cornwall and windy? Nah surely not?😂 Cheers!❤️