Open Bar #26 - Rings of Power Post Mortem, She-Hulk Backlash

[@JGGR89]

Remember, when everyone in middle earth is dying because of Sauron, it was all Galadriels fault. Good job show writers, you made your characters the main villains.

[@bigorange2082]

Just like Kenobi letting Vader live.

[@anthonyhack1164]

@@bigorange2082 plot convenience

[@petriew2018]

Galadriel's 'arc' is one of the most mind-numbing in television history. She was literally minutes away from being reunited with her 'dead' brother and husband in literal heaven.... and instead she jumped off the boat to, in her words, 'certain death' with no actual plan and wound up creating almost literal Satan why? Well, because she just couldn't help herself, apparently. She was so up her own ass with her vengeance quest, she just couldn't stop..... jesus christ, it really does hurt your brain to say outloud

[@chasehedges6775]

@@petriew2018 This version of Galadriel is her own worst enemy. She ends being the cause of her own problems.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@bigorange2082 Kenobi was meh/mediocre as heck. The girl playing Leia was adorable tho

[@shapesnatch1341]

My favourite part of Rings of Power was when Sauron gave Galadriel her ring and when she asked "where did you get this", Sauron said "A good question, for another time"

[@erikpalumbo2400]

"I found it in a crack jack box. The ring is bupkis. The schwarts is in you!"

[@byufan]

Ah yes the JJ Abrams school of writing

[@PeoplePleaser578]

"Where did you get this ring" Sauron trying to hold back laughing "I guess you could say I am the Lord of the rings"

[@chasehedges6775]

@@byufan 💯💯💯💯

[@chasehedges6775]

@@byufan MYSTERY BOXES!

[@BushmanOutdoors]

So if Guyladriel did what she was told, the greatest threat to middle earth in the 3rd age wouldn’t have come about… what an apt metaphor for feminism.

[@apk4381]

The big question is, when will Disparu ever brush his teeth? I can literally smell his teeth through the screen. Horrid.

[@Umcarasemvideo]

@@apk4381 Hey, it's not his fault he's bri'ish

[@BurnDoubt]

Just turn your brain off and consume product ffs entertainment is supposed to be like being dead for an hour or so, but you're eating popcorn

[@morbidone88]

@@apk4381 pft

[@theraven268]

@@BurnDoubt But i always get pieces of popcorn-cernel shell in my gums which hurts enough to wake me from the vegetative state :( It's like the worst PTSD trigger man! Being braindead only to wake up to the most horrendous shite, it's dangerous for my mental health!

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

My expectations were subverted when Galadriel dropped her lower armour, and Sauron exclaimed "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!"

[@TheRampantLion]

Don't know what you're on but I need some.

[@aristogan]

@@TheRampantLion Space Balls reference

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

lol, when Galadrial suddenly ejaculated forth those pearls of wisdom I was awestruck. Such a breathtaking example of post modern wank. Bravo !

[@ЛюбенИванов-ш7ц]

XD

[@jahu5440]

Actually, Sauron can be Galadriel's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

[@Junkfist]

I got an article suggested: 'Is Aragorn realted to Isildur? Examining Isildurs lineage.' This is the level of understanding we're dealing with.

[@AndrewThoesen]

“I hold your oaths fulfilled” “…” “Psyche”

[@damitcarl3942]

"Fans are debating on what parts Rings of Power improved upon LoTR"

[@kylekatarn5964]

@@damitcarl3942 *Visible Horror*

[@rhyscallinan8891]

I guess they didn't read the lineage that Gondor has in its records. But who says these twats can read?

[@chrisbarnes3660]

Hahahahha that can’t be possible surely

[@grandarkfang_1482]

Reminder that Jennifer never apologized to Bruce for insulting him and his experiences as a past fugitive, an abuse survivor, a superhero and a Hulk, and quite literally broke reality to avoid accountability for her actions, and rewrote people's memories to that end. We are at the point where Kingdom Hearts - _another_ Disney property - dealt with the moral quandaries of altering people's memories and personality more than a billion dollar multi-movie/show franchise. I hate what the She-Hulk has done to my favorite Marvel gal.

[@chasehedges6775]

Kingdom Hearts has better, well-written content

[@N1kura]

@@chasehedges6775 Beg to differ. Remember when Xehanort, the big baddie that was hyped out for over 20 years turns out to be the "complex" character and was always trying to save the world in end when all of his actions completely contradicting his intentions? Not to mention how badly written the disney worlds were in 3 compared to 2 *coughs in re-render of Elsa singing let it go*. Boy, that game has no shame whatsoever.

[@Likexner]

She-Hulk is far-right transphobic hate speech. We need a Zey/Zem-Hulk!

[@corvistein9016]

@@N1kura def fair, though the advantage of that game is that I can turn my brain off bash creatures with a big key in between some of the crazy cutscenes.

[@JeThoreau_]

“After the first blush of sin comes its indifference” - Henry David Thoreau Never expect an apology from a narcissist… or anyone really, but especially from a narcissist

[@waylander9265]

According to this show it would only take a week(literally) to travel from Eregion to Mt. Doom. I would also like to point out that Rivendell is just north of where Eregion was. These Numenorean horses are making Shadowfax look like a snail

[@mattshanley6755]

Apparently Middle Earth is roughly the size of Pennsylvania.

[@SleightlyPersonal]

Weird how horses from an island nation travel like Lord Varys after GoT season 5.

[@michaelozanne3081]

Gorgoroth to Eregion is about 600 miles as the Crebain flies.. It's across two sets of hills and mountains at least 1 marsh, 4 river crossings and a trip through Moria.. Unless you want it to die in short order a Horse is good for about 25 miles a day.... It's at least a three week trip that a badly wounded man couldn't expect to survive.. If there was an Elven system of Post Horses and stables in place so they could ride further per day, there'd have been healers and no need to make the trip..

[@Warraci]

You cannot Fast Travel when Enemies are Near. It is clear that Sauron does not consider Galadriel, Warrior Princess his enemy.

[@roberthicks4945]

You 4… Drinker, Mauler, Disparu and Az are the best 4 - Gary is in there too. Whenever it’s you all it’s the greatest sessions you all have. So danged entertaining. I actively look forward to these

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

My favourite part of The Rings of Power was when She Hulk and Galadriel broke through the 4th wall, teamed up, took down Sauron and Gargamel; ending the gender pay gap.

[@xavier8951]

Why Gargamel?

[@agustintorres4608]

@@xavier8951 Because why not, these two literally destroyed the lore of their franchises in their respective show. Let's chuck some more firewood.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

lolololol Cheers I needed a laugh this morning.

[@danneary7382]

Am just happy it's over

[@tomcoop9750]

😂

[@genebaker511]

My favorite part is when Numenor got swallowed up by the sea and all the Numenorean got together and sang, "Always look on the bright side of life." (Whistling)

[@SaiDeLaRai]

Also scattered mumblings of "the sea is always right"

[@SnakeWasRight]

Someone legitimately attempted to tell me that "Celebrimbor was never established to know how to make alloys." I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

Write off whoever that person was from your life before you catch stupid! 🤣

[@SnakeWasRight]

@@Langley_Ackerman19 the stupid is closing in on all sides

[@theskycavedin]

A master smith not knowing how to make alloys is like a composer who has never heard of a D note.

[@dudesayingthings]

​@@theskycavedin composers often don't know the D note, because they're all sad lonely fucks who don't go out and meet people. It's the singers who are really familiar with the D note. They're the face.

[@dudesayingthings]

I wouldn't be surprised if that is how the writers convinced themselves to write that scene in. It's like "WE never say that he knows about alloys, so that should be enough, right?"

[@PeoplePleaser578]

My favourite part was when all the highly trained soldiers had to learn that kill an enemy with a sword - Stabbing them with the pointy end is normally a good way to do it.

[@AGrumpyPanda]

I still don't believe that that training scene is supposed to feature trained soldiers. 60 million an episode and they couldn't afford a single bloody fencing coach? A single fight choreographer? Hell, they have enough money for a private tutor for every single actor who has to pick up a sword on screen, they've got no excuse.

[@PeoplePleaser578]

@@AGrumpyPanda I mean they arent supposed to be like veterans, but these were all men and women training to be on the Sea Guard - Like according to this show Numenors greatest honour and fighting force... yet they never trained them in using a sword or told them "If you stab people they die" apparently. Like having a scene of Galdriel fighting and giving them tips just to show how good she is - Fine or even having Elendil do the same and have those 2 fight each other... but to have galadriel walk up and say "Guys to kill something you need to stab it with the pointy end" and they all act like this is something they have never heard before is insane to me xD. No they have no excuses for bad fights but somehow they managed it - That fight literally looks like people are stopping and waiting to ensure they are in the right position for Galadriel to spank them.

[@TGuard00014]

@@PeoplePleaser578 Yeah my kid had figured out by the age of 2 the general ideas behind sword use…

[@legatedrengr]

Rings of Power makes a little more sense when you realise every single scene is designed to big up not Galadriel as much as possible - so this scene in question isn't about showing the Numenoreans training, because anyone who isn't an idiot would show that better than they did, but it's all about showing how amazing not Galadriel is at fighting. Why waste time on fight choreography or sword coaching for glorified training dummies?

[@rhyscallinan8891]

@@AGrumpyPanda They didn't even bother to have actual armour. They just badly spray painted the armour. From what Shad said, they didn't even badly spray paint good, as when a "soldier" lifts their arm and the colour just abruptly stops at the under part. Why would they bother to train these people if they can't even bother to give them armour that looks real. A billion dollars for this.

[@Peterski]

The biggest problem is the hubris of those talentless showrunners. Instead of taking Tolkien's story and adapting it, they decided they can tell their own, "better" story. They were inspired by Paradise Lost, The Dark Knight, The Sopranos, E.T., Macbeth and god knows what other good stuff. Too bad they were not inspried by, you know, Tolkien.

[@shmeebs387]

2:07:00 They kind of almost did something like that in the Doom movie where the Rock was marketed as the main guy, but he ended up getting corrupted or whatever and turned into the bad guy. Karl Urban ended up actually being the protagonist.

[@megalopath]

What's really annoying me personally is it seems people keep writing caricatures instead of characters. You don't write a strong "insert thing here character", you write a good character that happens to be whatever that thing is. Unfortunately, I don't see Hollywood learning that lesson anytime soon.

[@PeoplePleaser578]

That will never happen because these people view political identities as character traits... as personalities.

[@chasehedges6775]

It’s just sad. I guess it’s just easier to write bad/mediocre stuff than something of actual worth.

[@joeterzio7175]

Most of the main characters from RoP are all from Tolkien's writing. I don't get the complaint. What, your idea of what Second Age Galadriel is not what you think it should be? Too bad because JRRT barely wrote anything about Second Age Galadriel.

[@PeoplePleaser578]

@@joeterzio7175 I mean they are but literally everything else you said was a lie - Tolkien described her as kind, wise, caring with intimate knowledge of people hearts at a glance… he didn’t say “Most OP character that could tank full on volcanic eruptions, was so insanely smart yet made dumbest decisions at every turn, was disdainful of everyone she met, threatened every race with violence and directly caused the rise of Sauron through her sheer hubris, yet simultaneously was also flawless and experienced 0 consequences of any of her actions”. We know what Galadriel was like in 2nd age as Tolkien wrote about it - Nowhere did he write any of that… but sure protect garbage writing and a completely unlikeable main character who is more of a villain than the actual villain is.

[@thisishawkman]

​@@joeterzio7175 what main characrers are from tolkien writing u say? Aside from the similar name they have nothing to do with Tolkien

[@walkwithoutrhythm9858]

I love the FNT crew, it was the first stream I ever donated to. But they just have way too big of a cast. It takes so long to get through anything. This is a much better way with a smaller cast. Drinker, and MauLer have good chemistry. I greatly appreciate these streams. I just wish I could watch them when they come out.

[@bigorange2082]

When Sauron said: “I hate sand..” I lost my mind!!!!! 👏 GENIUS

[@ddddddddddd5354]

Truly the human peak of entertainment

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Words elude me as to the magnificence of this endeavour. no really.

[@chasehedges6775]

Yep.

[@steve-oh4342]

And then.pp happened

[@chasehedges6775]

More like the death of entertainment.

[@scottythedawg]

My favourite part was when as Sauron walked away from Galadriel, with each step he loses his limp. Galadriel looks around the room at all the tapestries and it dawns on her she just let him go.

[@shawnm1902]

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was making everyone believe that he didn't exist. -not frodo baggins

[@AMikeStein]

Thats an awesome comment. It took me a second to realize what you meant. What a bad ass movie btw.

[@VespoLiveGaming]

The best part was when Galadriel defeated Thanos by throwing the holy hand grenade of Antioch on a count of 1..., 2..., 5 NO! 3!

[@CW19941]

So says Saint Atilla 🤣🤣

[@DirkMensonides]

Currently: $231,539 US with 3206 Backers. Looks like you are making a series my friend! Congrats!

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

Disparu absolutely losing it over AZ is funny as hell. XD

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

20:00 - Only to a small degree. Sauron and the One Ring had only very limited 'access' to the three Elven rings (otherwise, their bearers would have been far more corrupted while Sauron was wearing the One Ring, pretty much like the dwarves and humans were), exactly because the Three were forged in secret without Sauron knowing about them (until he put on the One). So while yeah, there was _some_ aspect of the "creation method" that always corrupted them, Sauron's direct part in creating the various rings was far more "important" to how much control he would have later.

[@ravazoid469]

One of the most hilarious episodes of open bar so far.

[@PoperoniNews]

Disparu and Az losing it at 55:00 is gold. If you know the context it’s hilarious

[@SolarMonolith206]

What is it?

[@johnnyboy2537]

​@@SolarMonolith206 Az got fooled by 2 traps and had a wank to them which he admitted on FNT. His reaction was priceless.

[@DemonKingCozar]

@@SolarMonolith206 AZ talked about liking a Trans person's boobs and died on stream after he learned that they were trans

[@lewishorsman2219]

This was the best stream they’ve ever done I was laughing for ages

[@ejaedike]

Thanks Disparu, the 3 were made separately and in secret from Annatar after the other 16. 10 years before Sauron skips off to Mordor to make the 1.

[@lonewolfandcub668]

It's hard to run a post mortem when the body has been completely destroyed

[@chasehedges6775]

Yeah

[@jedibusiness66]

Ang Lee’s Life of Pi film has great cinematography, acting, and music, with NO changes to the story. IMO it’s the definition of a great adaptation.

[@chasehedges6775]

Love that movie. It’s a simple story of a boy and a Tiger just trying to survive.

[@SleightlyPersonal]

Musical lovers point to Sweeney Todd.

[@matthewcarroll2533]

Man Life of Pi was amazing. I never knew about it before I watched it and it genuinely impressed the hell out of me.

[@MilanousMedia]

Life of pi was amazing but it was not 100% accurate to the book. It left parts out, such as the "blinded Frenchman" but was still faithful

[@UkiWoDao]

54:34 and the following couple of minutes had me in stitches

[@The_Friendly_Fire]

My sister liked RoP. So I asked her if she simply doesn't care about likeable characters or sensible story or anything making sense, and she simply answered with "no, it's just pretty to look at".

[@TGuard00014]

What’s weird about that is to me it’s visually very hit or miss. The elves are especially bland.

[@The_Friendly_Fire]

@@TGuard00014 Agreed. Like why don't people just go watch a laser show or something? Those are pretty.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

TF? Feel sorry for you man.

[@silverscorpio24]

Pretty much what my parents said too

[@dudesayingthings]

That is enough to satisfy a sadly high number of people.

[@mozzdog]

$230k pounds when I watched this video drop. Truly a testament to how much the community appreciates what you and this group of exceptional individuals do for us. Thank you!

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Wow. 230,000 dollarpounds. You must be a really high class, sophisticated bot.

[@Gannoh]

@@JamesLaserpimpWalsh not everyone has a british keyboard

[@Likexner]

@@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Dollarpounds is the actual currency in Red Dwarf.

[@enriquecarro8413]

55:00 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh, God, that was better than anything in RoP, more subtle, and with almost no dialogue. I'm beginning to think that you four, with Nerdrotic and Shad included, could come up with ways of saving this series...

[@Parasmunt]

I read the books, Galadriel and Sauron were both mysterious, enigmatic, imperious, distant, powerful, ancient. This show has put them both sitting in a boat engaging in a screaming contest with each other. There is no WAY that subversion was not deliberate and designed to piss people off. There is no way a writer could be so shit as to think that is acceptable.

[@nothadley9893]

"The Rock, the best person to play The Rock since The Rock." - The Rock

[@KPT437]

Saw the extended version of lotr fellowship of the ring yesterday and Galadriel is amazing! She is powerful can sense the future and can talk to people in their heads. She can even see their hearts! This show is stupid.

[@LoReOwl]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@reval1989]

It sounds like Amazon paid $1bn for "Member Sauron? Member the ring? member Moria? member the Balrog? member Galadriel?"

[@rhyscallinan8891]

"Now watch as we fuck it all up because we can't hire good people".

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

I just think it's the biggest money laundering scheme purported by a corporation.

[@JD-qk3rp]

Season 2 scene... Galadriel says to Celeborn " so good to have you back, just you me and the life-sized Halbrand body pillow between us."

[@theupperechelon7634]

Disparu broken from the AZ "boobs on women" jokes was amazing. He looked like he almost puked from laughter. Roughly 55min in.

[@Ryan-vl2nn]

Congrats Disparu on all the new subs! That’s awesome! I too started following your channel recently, during the ROP press fiasco prior to the season opening.

[@rumorcontrol7873]

As of airing this episode and mentioning the project was funded the project is now nearing 250K way to go Drinker

[@joeterzio7175]

Lots of suckers giving some online clown money is what that shows me. Congrats to the simps.

[@joeterzio7175]

@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iu I'll pass on the online clown and leave that to the aforementioned idiot and I certainly don't need to go grifting for money from uneducated saps; I have plenty of it.

[@code-talker]

Loved the Arnie impression Drinker. Laughed my ass off!

[@daveeyes]

🎊 Congratulations to Disparu for hitting 100,000 subscribers!

[@Starwind2]

In all honesty, I may not agree with 100% of your opinions, I do respect it a great deal and enjoy your content. So it is my pleasure to support your short movie and definitely can't wait to see it!!

[@edwardvargas331]

I love the quasi- punk opening, Mr.Drinker

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Love your psudeo sophisticated comment mate. Truly an epic comment of such magnificence my testes have withdrawn into my very stomach.

[@sakulaeyr9819]

2:48:38 Most of the time, the steam you see is the condensation that results from cooler water (like rain) falling through manhole covers coming into contact with the extremely hot pipes below street level. Leaks do happen, though rarely, and are taken seriously. New York's first power plant opened in 1882, steam from clean water greatly reduced the amount of soot created by individual coal-burning furnaces (which were the primary source of heat at the time) and remains as an evironmentally friendly source of energy. Besides the obvious reason? (to heat and cool buildings), Steam plays a role in the sanitization of hospital equipment, the dry-cleaning industry, and the humidification process for works of art in museums.

[@Rolilasx]

finally you released the full episode, I hate to be teased by the clips you upload and usually I avoid them so I can enjoy the full show Thanks !

[@unclejohnieplays5651]

Az pushing a hotdog cart thru the background of a gun fight would be the greatest thing

[@colinpotatofamine6183]

Please no... We don't need memes in it, let alone niche memes. This is literally one of the thing we criticize modern writing for where it's just reference for reference sake...

[@WayStedYou]

I think his plushie just sitting inconspicuously somewhere would be better with the tone of the movie

[@Michael_CDK]

I really liked when something something other product reference said something something other other product reference. Truly a touching moment.

[@chasehedges6775]

Or maybe it’s just lazy, bad writing.

[@SaiDeLaRai]

I morbed.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Excellent. Lambs Navy Rum. The breakfast of champions. Lets get stuck in to this little blighter. lol Cheers Drinker.

[@petermillen6924]

Hail to Caroline!

[@JLittleBass]

The writers of RoP seemed to think they would be able to do a better job than Tolkien at coming up with a compelling fantasy story that makes some kind of sense, maybe they're starting to realize it's actually not that easy...

[@shaecouture7480]

Im writing several books, as a hobby, completely for my own enjoyment. And I can 100% say, I put more effort into every aspect of my story that will likely never be read... I can modestly say that I have iconic and memorable dialogue in comparison to ROP, and I think dialogue is my weakest area...

[@apocryphicdeath]

Keep up the grind!

[@TwinklesTheChinchilla]

Of all the things to repurpose from the movies, stone throwing hobbits should have been at the back of the list. Then again, "Bad Reboot" as Gary calls them... But Galadriel + Halbrand makes perfect sense. Sauron would be chomping at the bit to have such evil for himself.

[@stevemps11]

Congratulations sir on the short film

[@agentsmith2378]

Defo my fave show on yt rite now great work guys.

[@Mike-ds4ht]

My favorite part was when Galadriel pushed Sauron into the molten pools of Orodruin and then told Elrond to lower her in as well to complete the cycle, having learned the value of Numenorian life but knowing she could never be one.

[@codycardin]

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[@bad-people6510]

I'm just going to keep pointing this out, Wonder Woman has been one of DC's big three since WWII. She was one of three characters to sell reliably through paper rationing. But somehow women have never been superheroes before She-Hulk... the streaming show.

[@HarmKaban]

Man power fantasy - to be a hero and save the day Woman power fantasy - to be a villain and get away with it

[@apocryphicdeath]

Poignant observation

[@Aalok1991]

The show basically drove Jennifer's character into the dirt and then asked the fans to deal with it as if to stick it to them...The comments the guys are shown making in that intelligencia meeting... were absolutely 100% true and justified! And they were villianized for that

[@Jafs]

Galadriel was actually sauron all along, every person’s expectations were subverted including the actors, writers, set producers and lighting/costume staff

[@hueytlatoani1177]

I would've loved to see she-hulk look like Fiona.

[@mattg5791]

I loved when Galadriel screamed "You spoony bard!" and then trapped the emperor between the warring triad, nearly destroying the world while she laughed maniacally. Truly a memorable sight.

[@DarkAngel459]

Mithril is the Hyacinth Bucket of the Ore world.

[@johnmcternan4157]

Amazing, lol

[@veritasg9020]

1:18:00 There was an episode in the sitcom "George Lopez" where George received an offer he couldn't resist from another bigger company. He was a manager at a facility and the two brother-bosses ignored his efforts, so him getting recruited for the same job to get more cash and all was extremely tempting. However, right when he was about to take the offer, he discovered that the company didn't care or want him for his talent or abilities; they just wanted him because he was merely Mexican-American whose employment would up the corporate image for diversity (Sounds familiar?). George, having something called a "spine", ultimately declined having money over the fact that he wanted to be respected by his abilities as a hard worker. Good episode, imo. And now. She-Hulk... Yeah... No. Go awai neouw.

[@MegaSpideyman]

Interesting.

[@DarrellVermilion]

2:48:37 It's ventilation for the subway system. lol Los Angeles has the same thing.

[@TheSlammurai]

Arny as Hitler made me laugh harder than I have in a long time. 😂

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Drinker: People wanted me to review the Halo TV show. I watched two episodes. It was awful, judging by its own merit. I don't have a history with the games to compare it to... Me: Neither does the show, Drinker. Neither does the show.

[@bad-people6510]

If they think the elves wouldn't kill dwarves over a thing that could save all of their lives, they don't know what they're talking about. They've killed each other over boats. THESE SPECIFIC ELVES did that!

[@silverscorpio24]

Some lore regarding the Rings: Each Ring of power was created to give the bearer certain traits, like bravery or leadership or magic. That's why Annatar (Sauron's true disguise) helped create them and gave them to the major leaders of the age. When he forged the One Ring it was called the Ring of Command, giving him control over all of the other Rings he had made. The Elven rings were forged last after Celebrimbor became suspicious of Annatar's true intentions, and in secret so that Sauron couldn't corrupt the Rings like what happened to the Ringwraiths. This is why I was so upset with the whole "Elves need mithril or they're going to die" thing that ROP did. It broke the entire lore of the Silmarils, the Elves and their immortality, their relationship with the Dwarves, and why they needed to make the Rings. Halbrand's Rings aren't rare and powerful artifacts. They weren't given by a benevolent smith as a token of friendship that later betrays, kills, and enslaves a majority of Middle-Earth.

[@Fardawg]

In Tolkien, the three rings weren't touched directly by Sauron, so he doesn't have as much control over them and they aren't corrupted like the others. When Sauron created the One Ring the wearers of the three heard the voice of Sauron and realized who he was. They then took off the rings and hid them from him. When the One Ring was cut from Sauron they were able to use the three rings to preserve their realms from decay, but if he had gotten the One Ring back he would have been able to control them again. When the One was destroyed, the three lost their power and the Elf realms like Lothlorien were subject to decay.

[@damitcarl3942]

I love that one of the pledges includes a download. Its like buying the movie early

[@scottjoseph9578]

Guys, if you find yourselves at a Con in Santa Fe, NM, the steaks are on me, Sirs. Y'all are awesome!

[@BlueFireDrakka]

its older than the fucking Dinosaurs now but the Tomb Raider Movies were actually really quite good, they even had a kind of Tomb Puzzle like in the games plus Angelina jolie in her prime really captured the spirit of Lara like she is Lara Croft for that whole movie

[@adhirg]

it’s very obvious that the current crop of “writers” in hollywood have never experienced any adversity and it’s incredibly frustrating / boring to watch what they write.

[@wopjohn]

Guess Noone ever told az it's low class to discuss how much money you make

[@MrGreenAKAguci00]

There should be a Kickstarter tier for like becoming an extra or like a corpse or something. I'd love that and I bet I'm not the only one.

[@Soyuz2578]

My favourite part of Ringhole of Power was when Guyladriel beat Thanos and said "by the power of greyskull" and then smashed the glass ceiling with the motherbox

[@joeterzio7175]

These may have been a bit clever months ago but they're just played out now. Try harder, man.

[@Soyuz2578]

@@joeterzio7175 ok random person in KZbin comments section, I will 100% take your words on board 🤣

[@pontificusrex1501]

@@Soyuz2578 I'm not tired of them yet. Keep 'em coming!

[@verindictus3639]

@@Soyuz2578 lol, just ignore him, that's just a shill for RoP sore that the show bombed so bad. He trolls regularly on any KZbin channel critical of RoP.

[@Soyuz2578]

@@verindictus3639 imagine shilling for RoP 🤣🤣🤣

[@rangerone8813]

Many people dislike Finrod's admonition to Gal'lad'rielle that you need to touch the darkness in order to know the light, but that one line resonates with me. While I wouldn't wish the wRongs of Power on anyone, it has definitely enhanced my love for Tolkien's true work.

[@gwenjackson8583]

You know, the concept is interesting and thought provoking. The delivery in the show is a bit clunky and cringe. There is a similar idea in the Bible in the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. In order to know both good and evil, they had to taste of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. But the tree was forbidden to them. So really in order to understand good and evil they had to disobey God and eat from the forbidden tree.

[@Skyeborne_]

Unfortunately I know many Tolkien fans who love the show and are giving it so much praise. It bothers me to no end. Of the 12 people I know who watched the show, only one hated it. The rest rest are enjoying it and look forward to Season 2. They're so so blind.

[@keyboarddancers7751]

A friend of mine (who's read TLOTR only, although that's not a crucial point) thinks TRoP is terrific. He also thinks very highly indeed of a number of other shows which are arguably objectively vastly superior to TRoP. What I can't understand is why TRoP is being given such a pass by people whose critical faculties are otherwise quite sound.

[@paninii99]

Rogue Elements: A Ryan Drake Short Film - at 232k on Kickstarter at the time of writing this comment. Very happy to see this.

[@FM-ks1cs]

Keep it original and authentic, always a winner.

[@sol3a1]

They needed Shad and X-Ray Girl to have a Scotsman - Drinker, Welshman- Mauler, Englishman - Disparu, X-Ray Girl - Canadian, Shad - Oz, and the Kiwi Az

[@kingvejita8827]

Good for u Drinker ,with the movie.

[@clpearson991]

To be fair, would anyone have been sad if they had burned down all the Harfoots?

[@TaoScribble]

1:16:01 Coming back to listen to this again after the She-Hilk showrunner (I think?) complained about only getting $500 in royalties. XD

[@richardsanchez5444]

Dude what the fkk did they do to this IP? Sauron was evil and had nothing to do with galadriel

[@trashcat7501]

This had to be the most comical scene between Galadriel and Sauron: Sauron: "Galadriel! There's too much butter on these trays" Galariel: "K?" Sauron: "There's too much butter ON THESE TRAYS" Galariel: "Oh no no no Mr. Sauron. It's not (on these trays).... it's uno, dos, tres."

[@alasdairwatson712]

I liked the part where Galadriel employs the Harfoots, instead of the Dwarves as she was told by Miriel, to install a door in a wall and they put it into a load bearing wall without installing a steel girder above the door frame.

[@trashcat7501]

@@alasdairwatson712 haha yes!

[@petergreen96669]

The Jeffrey Dahmer comment was so good and spot on.

[@michaelozanne3081]

Many comments in Tolkein Twitter about how the show may be awful but it has led a lot of people to take up the books... If everybody was in the pub on a sunny day and someone opened there Sphincter and dropped sufficient maloderous feculence to persuade everyone to take their beer into the glorious sunshine. The suggestion is that we should pin a medal on the sphincter for it's public service...

[@MegaSpideyman]

At least some light arose from darkness.

[@bad-people6510]

"I think it's reasonable for anyone to be as angry as I was!" Well being a lawyer you should know that reasonableness is something for a COURT to decide.

[@ThieflyChap]

Congrads to Rags for his plushie. Looking forward to the Disparu one. Add a ninja squirrel to the collection.

[@davidgannon5388]

2:22:22 - The problem with Arcane was the dystopia. They clearly have the ability to generate anything/everything they want/need, yet there is still an underclass in a crappy lower city. Makes no sense!

[@chrisl8277]

"Yknow what didn't boost Halo's game reviews? " +1 Mauler 😆

[@MMCLLC7]

1:02:25 for those just wanting to hear about she hulk 👌

[@smwad7103]

Am I the only one cunfused about all the testing they did to combine the mithril even though they never put mithril in any attempts but the last. We see Elrond put the entirety of there mithril into the melted dagger so how did they know the mithril wouldn’t combine any other ways.

[@richmbailey]

Backed the project. This is how we win. Drinker and Rippa are doing it right.

[@examiningkubrickphilosofia1530]

Money wasted lolol

[@rhyscallinan8891]

@@examiningkubrickphilosofia1530 Really, how? They actually are giving us entertainment unlike Hollywood.

[@bakedcheese187]

Just rewatched September 2023 hope the film goes well .

[@kevinoneil5120]

SO I THOUGHT, correct me if I'm wrong, that Sauron had no influence over the elven rings because Celebrimbor made them alone as a deterrent once he realized the true purpose of the other rings. Am I remembering this falsely?

[@zacharybreen8891]

No true the elven rings had the lowest level of corruption but it was still present because the foundation of the rings is tied to Sauron as he designed them.

[@aaronrowell6943]

my favorite Image of Galadriel is as a ninja fighting Evil Samurai! my favorite Image of Galadriel is playing lead guitar at a Lynard Skynard Concert and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!

[@mattshanley6755]

$60 million an episode? This has got to be a money laundering operation.

[@chasehedges6775]

It has to be.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

That's what I said! 🤣