Open Bar #57 - Mission Impossible Dominates, Indy 5 Fallout, Witcher Season 3 Disaster

The bar is full tonight! Join me, The Woke Critic, Chris Gore, Little Platoon and MauLer as we discuss the big news of the week.
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[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Lucasfilm making a good film seems to be the real mission impossible.

[@SumDumGy]

They just haven’t chosen to accept that mission. Sadly, it’s taken much longer than five seconds for that message to self destruct.

[@TrigonAZR]

How is it that I see you in every Drinker's and Nerdrotic's video Muff? That's quite impossible in it's own right

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

@@TrigonAZR I can successfully complete impossible missions.

[@SumDumGy]

@@TrigonAZR Why do you find that so unusual?

[@hansdelbruck8286]

Maybe the real Mission Impossible isn't the movie but about the friends we made along the way

[@nadilenebudski]

I definitely agree with Critical Doggo's take on Kathleen Kennedy needing to go and she should take Kevin Feige with her. Very insightful.

[@itachiuchiha7728]

At least Feige had a good run till Endgame but yeah Doggo knows best

[@Blu3-Fir3]

All hail to the Critical Doggo! Always having the best takes.

[@atomicdancer]

22:26 I agree with Critical Doggo one hundred percent!

[@texasbeast239]

What, did he heist his leg and take a piss at some point, and I just missed it? 🙃😉😂🤣☠️

[@chadbassett8381]

Woah. Hold up for a min. Hmmm

[@Drawnartist]

If only Hollywood could look at these Tom Cruise movies and actually learn something?

[@whenpigsfly8178]

The only conclusion their brains could possibly draw from it is that they should join Scientology.

[@darthkek1953]

He's a better ambassador for a Scientology than Weinstein, Polanski, Epstien have made for thei tribe.

[@dmmax18]

The do learn, just slowly

[@chasehedges6775]

@@dmmax18 They better learn fast

[@soupful]

Tom Cruise Mission Impossible 7: Dead Reckoning Part 1 is another generic populace flick. It aint so great and theres a Part Two to come !?!? Forget it

[@courtxkim]

We live in a world where a Drinker video gets more views than The Witcher season 3.. And I couldn’t be happier about it

[@SAMagic]

F--k.

[@MichaelCravith]

The Critical Doggo in here with all the hot takes we've come to expect during an open bar.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

She deserves her own channel at this point.

[@zachs.murray6003]

So talkative. She never shuts up! 😂

[@chalzen1012]

Bestest Doggo is a good portion of why I'm here lol

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

Disney: buys Lucas Films to finally have a brand for boys. Also Disney: eliminates/destroys all the male leads and replaces them with women. Men and boys: turn away from Star Wars. Disney: Pikachu face 😮😮😮

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Truly amazing that a sleeping dog has better takes than John Campea.

[@djkymaera]

He has a nose for it.

[@chasehedges6775]

John Campea is sooo meh.

[@GeoffryGifari]

don't underestimate the dog mate

[@jojo_the_wise_sage]

only used to watch campea for rob even tho john treated him badly

[@GeoffryGifari]

@@jojo_the_wise_sage does rob have his own channel?

[@BoomTribeEntertainment]

I can’t wait for in 5 years when they make this Rey reboot and they portray Rey as an old washed up cat lady in her 40s and a new class of young Jedi males absolutely master class her in every field 😂

[@cpob2013]

"What is your name?" Jacen "Jacen who?" Jacen Palpatine

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@cpob2013 BOOM!

[@AliceBowie]

The young jedi will be fans of Luke Skywalker, and even when she tells them how toxic he was, they'll still like him, which will make her feel "less than", so she starts drinking too much blue milk, gets fat, and has to "get her groove back." That's the main conflict of the story.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

@nicksimone there will be a weak one who'll be her pet with whom she's secretly sleeping with.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

@@AliceBowie we have the outline of a script already 😂

[@thehermitman822]

Hope The Little Platoon is a permanent resident of The Open Bar at this point.

[@batboy555]

Me too. Real smart guy.

[@subidmyman]

Happy to see The Woke Critic join The Critical Drinker, Mauler and The Little Platoon ❤❤❤

[@Steel_Wrath]

Greyhounds = 100MPH couch potato. Good dog Smokey, very photogenic.

[@michaellee8815]

People don’t realize how lazy they are lol

[@kylebrown4293]

Had a friend who got one while in med school and I went to his house once. Most exciting thing that dog did was move from the left to the right side of the couch after 8 hours of studying and go back to sleep.

[@o00nemesis00o]

@@kylebrown4293 Well, after 8 hours of studying, he probably deserved it.

[@redbearington3345]

whoever replaces K.K. should have their first movie do what the Ghostbusters movie did, first 5 seconds of the trailer tells the audience "that other shit never happened and we'll never speak of it again."

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

her replacement will be her protege and worse.

[@rudesword2852]

Hayley atwell should be a bigger star. Agent carter was a really good show. She's believable as a kick ass heroine.

[@stuntwill]

Writers: How have people successfully adapted novels to film in the past? Everyone: Well, Peter Jackson stayed faithful to the source material. Writers: Hmm... what else you got?

[@Naesil89]

And I mean even Jackson changed stuff to make LoTR to work on screen, but the difference is he didnt butcher the core story.

[@sparks6177]

How do Disney executives not see how terrible their plan is when you are releasing 5+ movies a year that require you to break 500M box office on each just to stay afloat, and they would likely have to break a billion to actually be considered a successful production. When your whole business model requires you to get close to record breaking box offices multiple times per year, there’s a major flaw, especially now with how the economy is, it’s not realistic to bank on billion dollar box office numbers for every movie you make

[@marccreation1052]

Their shareholder s, at least the world level vampires such as BlackRock, always want more. And that is who the CEOs cater to.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Bc 4 years ago it worked. So they kept running it back.

[@josephbassey1501]

​@@JoshuaKevinPerry In those days of Disney movies making a billion, especially marvel, they hadn't hired activists to take over their projects They had story and characters that people were willing to pay money to see What do they have now?

[@JeThoreau_]

The tragic irony is that Marvel DOES have a TON of stories and characters that people would pay a LOT of money to see They chose to skip over decades of iconic source material though to fast track the M-She-U agenda instead

[@sparks6177]

@@JeThoreau_ that’s true, I’m not someone that’s read a lot of comics, but just looking at the catalog there’s some really great stuff they could pull from. I think there’s definitely something that was lost with their insane success, the marvel we know today was born from a company that was at the edge of bankruptcy for the second time and had a small group of passionate people willing to risk it all to make something special. That something was Ironman and they didn’t let that success go to waste. Unfortunately that success also slowly warped the company and selling to Disney didn’t help in the long run. Now it’s run by people who don’t care and don’t have that experience of fighting for something they actually care about, to the higher ups it’s just a job that pays a lot, and that unfortunately makes a hostile environment for anyone that actually allow themselves feel something for what Disney just sees as another product to milk dry and discard.

[@YeetmanSkeetman]

How are writers supposed to write dialogue if they’re not talking to every day people? A lot of these guys are sheltered, college educated, elitist individuals that curate their experiences through social media and avoid actual in person interactions that may expose them to new experiences. They prefer to live in the void of their own heads without having world experience to fill said void.

[@Semeyaza]

Nah.. I'm a college educated, highly intelligent and socially awkward person with minimal social interaction with people an yet I can recognize my situation is not the world and can spot genuine dialogue and correct social behaviour. That means these "writers" are just spoiled morons unable to write good movie. ;)

[@markiangooley]

Not so much college-educated but university-indoctrinated in lies about how the world and human nature work. Lies which these fools believe unquestioningly. No connection with real life, just leftist fantasies that don’t work when someone tries to put them into practice.

[@THORFXMX]

You are right! They live in a bubble filled with their clones. As a FX tech we make fun of them on set.

[@THORFXMX]

You are right! They live in a bubble filled with their clones. As a FX tech we make fun of them on set.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Indy 5 be like: Me fail mission? That's unpossible.

[@michaellee8815]

While I agree the motorcycle jump may have been over-saturated in previews, you could feel the excitement build in the theater as everyone knew it was finally time. When he jumped, the theater, the 100% full theater, was PIN DROP silent. It was an awesome moment.

[@davidhenderson9707]

Not taking away from a great movie but that stunt was done in Goldeneye first

[@SebastianMikulec]

MI7 was my first trip to a movie theater since the pandemic. Holy crap, movie theaters have gotten expensive, even more so than I remember. That said, that movie was awesome, so it's all good. Tom Cruise is a crazy mother****er but God bless him for making movies like this.

[@chasehedges6775]

Soooo true. Tom Cruise is the last movie star

[@shravanav993]

How much does it cost over there for a movie? It costs around 2 dollars/1.8 pounds for a 4K Dolby Atmos over here.

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@shravanav993 For the US the average ticket price is around $12-14 dollars nationally. Depends on the movie you are going to though as I managed to see “older” movies like Everything Everywhere All at Once for $5 at a local theater.

[@SebastianMikulec]

@@shravanav993 I went to an IMAX and it was $13 and that was with the matinee discount. After service fees (whatever the **** those are) and tax it was $17. I made the wise decision to eat just before the movie so I didn't but any popcorn or candy bars, but I did buy a medium fountain soda and it was $7, which is ludicrous.

[@danicorvin]

16£ + drink and popcorn ( Spiderman). It's hat time from now on.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Dead Reckoning was just what the summer needed. Fun, exciting and totally free of modern messaging. Just a great experience to sit and watch. Plus, Hayley Atwell has never looked better than in this film. God damn...

[@Willowy13]

She got the Black Widow treatment on the Peggy Carter show. A strong first season and then instead of going with the building up of SHIELD they decided the best course of action was to focus on her love life with a side of black matter.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Feminism is so ingrained in most people's minds, that people will swallow it and not even notice it unless it's fleabag levels of cringe...

[@paulibaer_206]

I really liked Pom in MI7, because she spoke her native French in the movie and this gave more authenticity to her character.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Plus miniskirt and Doc Martins...

[@geeebuttersnap2433]

@@jonbaxter2254loved that she had a mini skirt on, it added flair to her character. Made her more memorable.

[@thundercron77]

Time travel at the end of Superman only works because Chris Reeves totally sells it through his performance and reaction when Lois dies.

[@jdogg448]

I really love the film Collateral, Tom Cruise as a dead eye assassin he's fantastic.

[@jonbaxter2254]

He needs to play more villains.

[@geeebuttersnap2433]

@@jonbaxter2254yeah, that movie, interview with a vampire and tropic thunder. All great performances.

[@blockedhaat]

Critical doggo always provides us with the most informed, insightful, cohesive points about present day movies and TV 🤔

[@nont18411]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="62">1:02</a>:16 Meanwhile, Rhea Seehorn (Kim Wexler from Better Call Saul) started to get recognition when she’s 50 so I think Atwell at 41 still had it easier than her.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Also, agent Carter is hotter...

[@Glenuig]

Atwell is 41 but looks 28 tho

[@ironwolfgaming9632]

@@marbellaotaiza801 she has a couple of fine points to highlight her career.

[@sivad1025]

Watch the Emmies screw Rhea over again. She's churned out such great performances and gotten such little credit

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@@sivad1025 Awards shows...no one cares anymore and neither should you.

[@ZachPrime]

It's <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="480">8:00</a> in the morning, and I'm at work but I guess I could stop at the bar. Surely there will be nothing but good news to be heard

[@Jumpin.Jagaloon]

CST gang. Good thing I'm a deadbeat with nowhere to be

[@ahdvd]

One thing that could have made a slight difference for the better - that opening sequence on board the submarine, shouldn't have shown that the entity is situated on board the sub. Should have been shown the commanders using keys but not clearly showing they are the two parts that everyone is looking for in the movie - The ship is blown up, sinks to the bottom, crew floats to the top, don't show the crew's keys in close up. Make it appear that the entity blew up the sub to stir potential war between different nations, then at the end, when Pom reveals to him that the entity is on board the sub, Ethan puts 2 and 2 together and realises that is why it happened - we have that end sequence where the camera goes to the sub and shows it on the bopttom, and we see the entity, and we see the lock that fits the key. Would have made for a much better reveal and cliffhanger to setup the point of part 2.

[@Fardawg]

Han's original line gets misquoted as being "I love you too" but the script was actually "Just remember that, ’cause I’ll be back." They wanted a way to say that without directly saying it and Ford came up with "I know" while they were spitballing ideas. Sometimes it is reported that he just blurted it out randomly during the take, but the conversation on set was recorded.

[@rickybubbles7350]

I like to think of the Critical Doggo as the Farther Jack of Open Bar

[@Silphage]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="78">1:18</a>:09 - I felt the same about the motorcycle jump. I saw it too many times on twitter beforehand that when it happened in the movie, it was just "Yeah, that's neat". I can understand wanting to build hype for the movie, but it really did dull the impact of the scene in the actual movie.

[@MayerWoodStudios]

Exactly! Imagine if they had released the BTS of the jump after the movie release!

[@warmgreytenpercent]

Yes exactly, like they went too far milking the movie for content before it was released

[@JeThoreau_]

I haven’t seen the movie yet, so I’m not taking a side here But I have heard other people say that the marketing of this scene actually had the opposite effect - that, for them, it actually did make the experience of seeing it on the big screen even more impactful

[@Silphage]

@@JeThoreau_ I could see how that would happen for some people. If you don't know the behind the scenes you might assume more of it is CGI perhaps.

[@peacetheory5544]

There needs to be a sequel to Spaceballs based on the Disney sequels

[@geeebuttersnap2433]

Mel Brooks can’t make movies anymore, he would be cancelled too fast.

[@azh698]

​@@geeebuttersnap2433He's 90 years old, let the man retire.

[@chaserubin530]

I've been working in Disney shite for 3 years. Now I'm out of work haha. I decided to buy my own equipment and do my own projects. This is the turning point. Things are a changing.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Do they really literally steal your dreams like they did in American Dad?

[@NUTnCASE]

I'm still waiting for Robot Head to be invited. I would especially love him on when the Assoka show drops.

[@marccreation1052]

Assoka sounds like the porn parody :D

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@@marccreation1052 I'd watch that

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry Stop watching porn.

[@magicmanbran54]

​​​@@donaldjgumpofficial5754Just as soon as you stop drinking booze. Eating fast food. Watching movies. Or enjoying anythingelse which does not benifit your place in life or negatively affects your health.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@magicmanbran54 dude... he wasn't even @ing at you.

[@anithedude619]

Drinker saw you on Russell Brand podcast great stuff my dude keep up on keeping up!!

[@jameshewat4700]

Mission Possible: Good Movie Makes Money

[@Vicfirex]

That drinker joke about the benchmark for his girlfriend taking a punch had me rolling 😂

[@jonbaxter2254]

Well he is Scottish...

[@marbellaotaiza801]

"I like a woman that can take a punch" - Sean Connery, probably. Based Chris Gore 😂

[@Likexner]

There is a big difference between a punch and a bitch slap.

[@fakecubed]

I wonder how actresses feel working on these films where the script just won't let them actually act, because their character never gets scared, never feels any sort of relief at overcoming terrible odds, never goes through any journey at all emotionally and just instantly wins at everything because it's so easy for her. Did they become actresses because they wanted a paycheck and fame, or did they become actresses because they actually want to act? Somebody should start asking them that in interviews, and on the red carpet. If they ever stop striking, that is.

[@sixcrowsilver]

Thing is, once upon a time you'd be 100% correct. Nowadays so many actresses are feminist activists, and the delusional image of them being perfect is more important than reality and actual acting. Of course it's not entirely their fault. Media, social media, and society in general puts them on a pedestal no matter how unimaginative or unimpressive their work is. So they think they're doing something special even when they obviously aren't. I will say, Emily Blunt did an interview in November where she practically parroted everything you said. Look up her name and 'strong female lead' and you should be able to find it. Was great to read.

[@zzzzzzzzzz_me]

Peter Jacksons King Kong film was pretty faithful to the original, honestly. The casting choices are head scratchers, but it still felt like he was being respectful to the source

[@nevadadancer4629]

Critical Doggo has broken all journalistic possibilities with their groundbreaking film analysis.

[@jonf.3918]

Applebee's is giving away free tickets to Indiana Jones

[@chasehedges6775]

Eat at Applebees and don’t go see Indiana Jones 5

[@Garrus1995]

Have a meal at Applebees and get a ticket to Indiana Jones? That’s a losing scenario in every way.

[@tboncz]

Kathleen Kennedy reminds me so so much of Catherine Zeeta-Jones’ character from Rock of Ages. Except for the sex appeal, singing and coming around at the end.. basically everything that is good.

[@shamaninc]

Regarding the wayward (not so favorable) MI 7 reviews: one thing you guys (who are all fantastic) are forgetting is that this is Part 1 of 2 and no Mission Impossible movie is without its “expectations will not be met while hopes will” theme. There’s no way these guys aren’t taking into account the AI’s ever-reaching-all-knowingness. Shouldn’t we assume Cruise blasting through that train window in a both ridiculous and highly comedic way is not just luck (of course it is), but also an opportunity to “outsmart”the omniscient AI? I feel like they ran this discussion through its paces long before it became part of the lexicon, you know? Happy to be wrong! You guys are great, particularly Drinker👍

[@ravenzyblack]

Sound Of Freedom is now over $80M at the Box Office.

[@JT-cp1pj]

Obi-wan should have been a Fist Full of Dollars type plot.

[@darrickdean1849]

No, Ethan is not still married. Remember she was with someone else in Fallout?

[@yt_hatesfreespeech]

she remarried to a doctor

[@DerichndofCoomland]

Critical doggoes take on Indy 5 was quite bold, but maybe all the slurs wasn't necessary?

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

The gratuitous use of the n word by Doggo was somewhat jarring.

[@harrydubois6619]

Slurs are always necessary

[@SumDumGy]

All the slurs are necessary, I assure you.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

How can slurs be unnecessary, wtf are you talking about?

[@krl97a]

I thought Mission Impossible 7 was great in almost all aspects. Looking forward to part 2.

[@kutlumzrak2689]

What if the AI turns out to be the good guy at the end? Like, it was leaving breadcrumbs for Ethan all along, and had a plan to thwart who was controlling it?

[@teddyharvester]

I got my favorite seat during my local screening of Indy 5 as well. At my flat, in my chair, beer in hand, re-watching Stargate.

[@metalgodz69]

Smokey has had way to much to drink lmao , he is absoloutly hammered

[@rocheyb1]

You guys obviously didn't see 'The Pillars of the Earth' on Channel 4: Ian McShane, Rufus Sewell, Matthew McFadyen, Eddie Redmayne, Hayley Attwell and Donald Sutherland. It was very good.

[@YormanGina]

Never thought I'd hear the Rakka Bro's movie being mentioned here. Danny and Michael have certainly come a long way from their KZbin days. They were the ones who produced/wrote Talk to Me.

[@michelleadams5609]

It was not hard to follow 😂 love you guys,but it was phenomenal, fun, and made under rough circumstances…I don’t go to movies, but I went to MI and will again.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Imagine how Dial of Density would've bombed if they kept the original ending, which involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became the Retcon Girl, so she went to collect the Shankara Stone, The Arc of The Covenant, and The Holy Grail, but with all that power and awesomeness she became Miss Multiverse, and went to turn Lara Croft into a strong character while taking from her the Triangle of Light, El Gato from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, the mummies of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines, and with the machine gun to embarrass every WW2 and WW1 and Napoleonic war male protagonist by taking down all the nazis in those movies before them...

[@randomcharacter6501]

😂😂😂

[@DarthDainese]

Ethan’s wife has remarried in Fallout, so who is he still married to?

[@williampatrie514]

The drinker is my hero. His review of blade runner is pure poetry. 😊😊😊

[@Mac_Mayne_ATL]

I think Grace's character grounds all the over the top antics in the movie. She behaves as a normal person trapped in crazyville. It really made the movie for me.

[@rajyavardhansingh4491]

WhoTF is that?

[@JLEnder]

I thought the airplane scene was brilliant. I also loved when Ethan crashed into the train 😂 And I thought it was made pretty clear early on the Entity wasn't at full power yet.

[@MrThademon]

"Who cares about Cyberpunk?" I did. I do. I played the table top in high school. It's easily one of my favorite sci fi settings. They kept fixing stuff and the game play got better and better and I say this as someone who absolutely hates FPS games. I think it's the laziest, crappiest gameplay possible but Cyberpunk hooked me. And I am looking forward to what else they'll add fix or enhance.

[@Shiirow]

Im sure the live action "Shit Brown and the Seven Activist Hipsters" will do gangbusters and the House of Mouse will rise again.

[@davidgannon5388]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="148">2:28</a>:30 - 1995's "First Knight" with Sean Connery as King Arthur remains the only movie I ever walked out on! When Connery walks in on Guinevere and Lancelot, the entire audience in my theater just cracked up, laughing out loud, and you could tell, they hadn't intended the scene to be hilarious. What got me to walk was the interminable fight scene at the end where they repeatedly switched between showing the entire field of battle to showing Arthur or Mordred, sword raised toward his opponent, to a close-up of one of the armies charging toward the other, then back again, over and over and over and over, to the point where Dragonball Z fans were screaming, "GET ON WITH IT!!"

[@mauricedalaimo2127]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="140">2:20</a>:30 on the censorship note, Netflix censored "Ferris Buellers day off " they removed the scene where Sloan changes at the pool, then later she asks Cameron if he saw her naked he says yes which makes no sense if this is your first viewing!!!

[@Idiotatwork]

Less Grossman needs to lead negotiations against the SAG

[@janorgaWB]

The issue with 9 dash line is much more complex than just some islands, and it affects more countries in the South East Asia than just Vietnam (it is basically about Chinese claims in the sea that are not recognized by anyone else)

[@lance134679]

I don't know the Barbie plot, but there must be something about the patriarchy in it.

[@darrickdean1849]

MI2 has John Woo's signature action, and Newton is great, but the film felt less like a MI story, and more like a Bond.

[@furiousgreg4397]

With Cyberpunk 2077 they were able to pull a No Man's Sky by the time Cyberpunk: Edgerunners came out and the game is getting a full "2.0" update for the DLC coming in September. Right now with the 1.62 Patch it's a really good game and with the aforementioned "2.0" update it looks amazing. So come Sept it's definitely worth another look if you gave up on it.

[@o00nemesis00o]

@@accidentcellar6307 It was already delayed a bunch of times, I think they probably did it out of desperation to stay solvent.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

I like MI: Dead Reckoning, but I think it's weak compared to the previous films, but that could because it's Part 1.

[@chasehedges6775]

Good point

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

Wasn’t nearly as tight at Fallout

[@Autobotmatt428]

Congrats on being on Russel Brand

[@progambol]

Good lord Gore can talk.

[@progambol]

*Dies 20 mins into stream*

[@Promance2300]

More like Chris BORE, am I right!? Ayuck.

[@GimbleOnDew]

As far as censoring, I was introduced into anime by bleach and ghost is the shell. So when I say the rerelease of the ghost in the shell trade (or the thick book) I picked it up. Was told that it was censored from the original. Don't know what, I hope it was only some excess nudity that I assume was common in early manga.

[@Milton2k]

Vanilla Sky is a good adaptation... a good remake. I like it better than the original.

[@Enigma75614]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="76">1:16</a>:12 The two intelligence agents were one of the better parts of the movie.

[@amitgabay3721]

Can we get this posted on podcast networks?

[@Fardawg]

I wrote this on one of the clips from this episode, but there is evidence of the prequels taking place during the Clone Wars and being about Obi-Wan and Anakin going back to the 70s. Kurtz was probably only remembering part of the ideas Lucas had, which were constantly evolving. There is a list on yellow legal paper that comes from before TESB came out where the original movie is listed as "Episode 6" with Episode 1 being listed as a "Prelude" (possibly the "origin of the Jedi" idea Kurtz recalled), Episodes 2-4 being the "Clone Wars Trilogy," and Episode 5 being a "Prologue/Epilogue" before the original film. And there are plenty of interviews from back in the day where they talked about 1-3 being the story of Anakin and Obi-Wan. So these ideas of what the prequels were "really about originally" and that it was Lucas being stubborn and changing the "original idea" doesn't hold water. This explains why Lucas shifted from saying there were plans for possibly "12 films" to saying there were "9 films;" he just eliminated the loose idea of prologue/epilogue type films being necessary. And then he nixed the original Sequel trilogy ideas (mainly Luke finding and training a lost sister in a remote part of the galaxy and then teaming up to defeat the Emperor) while planning "Return of the Jedi" and just crammed them into the last film (this is a fact by the way) because he became exhausted with making Star Wars films, especially after his divorce.

[@T.J.S.]

I'm 100% with Mauler on this movie..I actually nodded off some times lol..

[@Enigma75614]

I wish that the guy who asked the cake question last Open Bar did it when Little Platoon was on.

[@IamDeathIncarnate1337]

I would have liked an Ethan Hunt POV for that jump so you could see him looking forward and then suddenly the bike drops away and the whole vista opens up. that would have really nailed that they did it all.

[@iamnotyu5548]

sucks that people get so worked up over spoilers. there are very few movies that can be truly spoiled. only 2 i can think of are 6th sense were a spoiler trully ruins the movie, and the prestige, but that one tries to spoil itself so the spoiler is mostly bypassing the craft of the plot. most movies its fairly predictible what is going to happen in the end so the fun of the movie is how they get there. thus spoilers almost never bother me.

[@ChewieEst]

I always thought/assumed/hoped that the EU would be developed into the last trilogy. It was a slam dunk with how popular thar series of books/comics was, but that of course would have been too easy and too male dominated! It would have been very cool to see Mara Jade developed on the screen, while the Skywalker family expanded! 🎉🎉

[@SumDumGy]

Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 2: Jack’s Revenge. We learn The Entity was created and controlled by Jack, who never got over his elevator accident and wants to take it out on the world. The Entity was actually the Rabbit’s Foot, and Ethan stealing it is what unleashed it upon the world. Everything comes full circle in the end.

[@Shiirow]

"This is your mission if you choose to accept it." "Nah fam, that sounds a little _too_ impossible." "o.O"

[@kevinjackman4026]

" They're just men in women's costumes" - Frank Gore You mean like Dylan Mulvaney?

[@emhu2594]

no one cares, move on.

[@kevinjackman4026]

Oh, my friend, people care. I guess the 31% drop in sales and loss of billions of dollars means that no one cares. You are free to not care but you also don't get to tell anyone what they can and can't care about. Good day to you!

[@mattcollins3591]

Mission impossible was awesome, but don’t act like it’s completely dominated. It made WAY less than predicted

[@stevewhite3424]

So you seem to be in the know so how about some numbers?

[@timewarpdrive77]

I went at 10 in the morning and there were maybe 10 people in the theater beside my group

[@mattcollins3591]

@@stevewhite3424 via variety: “Mission impossible 7 falls short of expectations with $56 million debut, collects $80 million over five days.” Just barely beating Indy’s box office debut. This is the better movie. But it’s definitely not “dominating” anything

[@stevewhite3424]

@@mattcollins3591 Deadline reports MI 5 day box office at 82.5 million domestic and 122.4 worldwide through Sat.. The largest opening 5 day period of any MI movie, Those 5 days did NOT include an entire weekend are only through Sat.. Maybe not total domination but numbers Disney wishes it had.

[@Craftymcstabber]

I've seen the general! its a great buster keaton movie, the physical comedy he could pull off was brilliant

[@davidgraves1876]

I agree that MI7 has a pretty rough script. But I think the talk around the main stunt around the <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="80">1:20</a>:00 I disagree with the points they all are making. Them saying that Ethan wouldnt hesitate and wouldve just jumped and Benji yelling at him to just jump is reversing roles. This has become like a running joke with the MI movies. Them either going into detail about how dangerous something theyre about to do and Benji underselling it, or Ethan hesitating and taking a minute to take in just how dangerous what he is about to do is, with Benji telling him to hurry. Whether its Benji underselling how dangerous the Burj Khalifa climbing scene is, Benji constantly underselling how dangerous and complicated it is when Ethan has to hold his breath for 4 minutes to get to the under water servers. Or something as basic as Ethan taking a minute to get the courage to jump out of a 3 story building and Benji on the coms yelling at him to hurry.

[@darrickdean1849]

Kittridge and the White Widow are nice connections to the first film, but it is surprising some other people from past films aren't used. Then again, this is only part one.

[@sivad1025]

I felt like they only added Kittridge back because Alec Baldwin is blacklisted

[@Enigma75614]

@@sivad1025Alec Baldwin’s character is also dead.

[@sivad1025]

@@Enigma75614 Good point. I completely forgot that movie 😂

[@vanessac1721]

White widow was also clearly Max's daughter from Fallout already. I don't know why Chris Gore is acting like that's an interesting reveal. The only "reveal" was that Max was feeding info to Kitteridge back in the day which isn't particularly shocking given her line of business.

[@vanessac1721]

@@accidentcellar6307 she's alive but 86 so unsure if she is still working.

[@vampirefrompluto9788]

Can I recommend getting Aiden Mattis from the Lore Lodge to come to the bar? He has been on Pop Culture Crisis to talk about films & makes a lot of interesting but good points.

[@theaverageDon]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="78">1:18</a>:50 kinda goes back to the discussion regarding FPS in film making Camera quality is almost too clean to the point that even practical effects feel like CGI

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

Tell Mauler to take a hike and finish his goddamn Force Awakens review he started 4 years ago.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Why would he doing that work? He makes more money doing it this way...way more.

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry don’t start what ya can’t finish. Sometimes giving your viewers what they want isn’t going to make you the most money

[@Promance2300]

That's the issue. These channels become so big that they earn waaaay more from livestream views and donations and stop producing the content that made them the most popular in the first place.

[@timothyfitzgerald3168]

I laughed pretty damn hard at the idea that Extraction 2 is better than MI:7😂

[@Maltymaldy]

I wasnt expecting the Critical Doggo to use that much harsh language. But i agreed with all of it

[@harrydbastard]

Phoebe Waller Bridge is proof that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... Unfortunately in this case the beholder failed their eye exam.

[@commentingisdangerous7530]

i saw a doomcock video once, and he said KK was on her way out...

[@grantmathieson650]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="63">1:03</a>:00 doggo action.

[@Sludgedump]

At this point, it seems like a sinister force is just trying to destroy disney from the inside. They can't possibly be this blind to what's happening around them unless they're all clinically insane.

[@drbrendanful]

On mission impossible. The entire movie didn't need to happen. They had a hires pictures and model of the key before they even went to get it. If you have that much info on a key. Just make another one. Thats how keys work.

[@timewarpdrive77]

It obviously has some sort of software in it; the only one that could make anew key are the Russians, but there’s still logistical barriers even for them.

[@bobsmithy9024]

Wouldn't be exciting though. A film with only one scene about key duplication. Kinda short too. A 5 minute film. 🤭

[@timewarpdrive77]

@@bobsmithy9024 That's not an argument; that's an admission of failure.

[@thechicagobox]

I just saw MI:7 in IMAX and I have to say that it is a great experience. It’s one of those films that’s made for a huge screen and sound.

[@Likexner]

I dont like theatre sound. Its always way too loud.

[@McMahonHater]

In Superman 2 Clark murders Zod, Lois commits manslaughter on Ursula and None dies as a result of his own stupidity.