Open Bar #64 - Rotten Tomatoes Busted! Disney Stock Tanks. Snow White Cancelled?

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[@thedramallama69]

Id like to be the first and only one to bring up that Disney was absolutely awful to the actress who voiced the original snow white. She was not originally credited at all when the movie originally released. She was also paid next to nothing without receiving royalties. There was a missed oportunity for them swing this into a big feminist thing while alsoholding the original actress in high regard, instead they choose to roast the audience and the original. Smh

[@lalehiandeity1649]

No wonder Disney’s workers revolted. 😂

[@thedramallama69]

@@lalehiandeity1649 🍻😂

[@northernpunx1978]

The animators were barely paid either. Disney went out of business with every full length animated film until the 80s I believe. People were treated very differently back in the day. Now it's gone to far in the opposite direction somehow. Oh well. I had my fun.

[@thedramallama69]

@@northernpunx1978 they also had staff underwear they shared when the parks opened, apparently an std outbreak caused them to change those rules 😂

[@northernpunx1978]

@@thedramallama69 huh?

[@rankoorovic7904]

The number of people surprised by the Rotten Tomatoes revelation should be ZERO

[@woodwyrm]

though not that shocked.

[@nicholasvinen]

The clue was in the name all along. Set up and pay-off.

[@Oakshield2]

Yup.

[@aroyals339]

The big surprise for me was the $50 part. XD

[@Meteyard97]

Only the lefties were surprised

[@Enigma75614]

I still think it’s funny that the Willow series was just erased from existence because of how bad it was.

[@SumDumGy]

From Buffy??

[@senorninato3318]

disappeared without leaving any trace

[@The.Nasty.]

So sad man, I loved that movie back in the day.

[@ne0nZchr0me]

It has an 84% on rotten tomatoes :D

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

​@@SumDumGydifferent Willow but Buffy is not far off the same quality.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Something is rotten in the state of Tomatoes.

[@Blu3-Fir3]

Rotted to the core.

[@anorouch]

On the one hand, it's disappointing, on the other hand, they were honest about it the whole time, and we never caught on. Like shopping ConMan Motors. 😂

[@S4ns]

To bribe or not to bribe, that is the question.

[@harrydbastard]

Ghostbusters 2016 is when I realised how corrupt the reviews were, it exposed the sites and reviews for caring more about politics than the quality of the movies

[@eszt3r5555]

My respect for everyone on the panel after reaching out to John in his dark times: 📈📈📈 Wishing John happiness in life!

[@robmccord2583]

We are here for you John. Looking forward to the next live stream, stay strong.

[@wrath231]

I wish John would post in the comments to let us know he's ok😢

[@angharad256]

@@wrath231 Drinker posted on Twitter that the guy has reached out and let him know that he is still here.

[@blakan1478]

when was he mentioned?

[@Rlyeh_The_Dead]

@@blakan1478 During live, he superchatted a huge amount of money and said he's going to off himself and others "las vegas style". Dude was begging for attention and got it. Idk... Seemed very selfish to me. But that's how self-deletion is.

[@booshmcfadden7638]

Disney losing money and canceling products? Oh, no. Anyway...

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

Drinker, So glad you got to reach out to John McGinley & help him out of his most darkest place! Cheers to you sir 🍻

[@blakan1478]

when was he mentioned?

[@MegaSpideyman]

​@@blakan1478I'm not sure, it was edited out.

[@Cyber_Samurai20]

Man Disney's going through a whole character arc and it's more entertaining than anything they've made in the last few years XD.

[@thedramallama69]

Big reveal this week that igor was actually palpatine behind the scenes the whole time. 😂👍

[@LukePeiffer]

@@thedramallama69 somehow...Iger returned.

[@hatchetman1116]

I'd actually like to see more "blind" perspectives on the One Piece live action adaptation. As a fan of the series, I've gotta say I'm pretty relieved that Netflix didnt screw this one up. It's actually quite refreshing to see people who arent fans enjoying the live action and talking about giving the anime/manga a shot.

[@sarov7658]

Yea one thing is mark jobst 2 epis director is very talented even mark Miller shouted him out he was in daredevil if Netflix is smart they should bring all of the daredevil directors/writers for s2

[@Tai_Fung]

I think Drinker was noticeably (and justifiably!) shook by John's superchat, and it showed for the rest of the stream. Major props to him for how he handled it both during and after the stream. Unrelated: I could do with a little less Chris Gore filibustering.

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

What happened? Who’s John?

[@Tai_Fung]

@@dearthofdoohickeys4703 So someone gave a VERY substantial superchat that obviously stood out because it was so much (like 300 bucks). It thus caught Drinker's attention and he addressed it. But then a person named John gave a superchat of even more money, but essentially indicated that he intended self deletion. Drinker initially read the superchat for the same reasons as the first substantial one, but as he was reading, he got to what John meant, and the whole stream changed tone with emphasis to discourage John, give hope, and advocate that he needed to seek immediate help. Drinker later said that the mods had reached out to John, and Drinker was going to communicate with John post-stream. Drinker later said via social media that he'd reached out to YT for assistance and they were getting help. I watched the whole thing live and it was really jarring of a turn. I can't imagine having to host a stream with that chat happening.

[@SMACK1978]

@@dearthofdoohickeys4703 Guy did a $400 superchat suicide note on the live chat. It was pretty heavy in the moment but Im not sure if the guy was for real or just looking for attention??

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

"Shook" in the manner you employed it is "milleniwanktastic illiteracy". The term is *shaken* . Only halfwit Tikkytokkytãrdians with failing OF accounts mistakenly use "shook" when the proper word is "shaken". And no, "English is not my 1st language" is no excuse, since "shook" in this context is braindead slang.

[@xitaris5981]

I saw the cut, but I didn't understand why it happened. Can you summarize?

[@flyinpigmusic331]

John, hope you're still here and getting the help you need. Remember, each day is a new day, and we never know what it will bring. Keep breathing, brother. Drinker and Mauler, you both did an amazing job giving the guy a little encouragement and words of wisdom. The entire situation was handled with class, professionalism, and empathy. Cheers!

[@gladiatorscoops4907]

John, wishing you all the strength and power to keep going bro, it will get better. I have a friend who was incredibly close to ending it, he couldnt see any hope, he kept going - 18 months later he is doing much better and in a much better place. Keep fighting dude!

[@Uzerique]

Where is Rags? Is he safe? Is he alright?

[@MediumRareOpinions]

Where's the doggo?....ON A FARM?

[@o00nemesis00o]

It seems that in his unqualified smugness, he died. He could save the ones he cared about from dying of cringe, but not himself. Ironic.

[@ArwenUndomiel406]

1:30:49 that collective groan of pain was extremely relatable yet so satisfying. 😂

[@pi-sx3mb]

Does anyone actually pay any attention to rotten tomatoes anymore, or for that matter anything mainstream on cable? Everyone I know gets that the entire system is rigged and just a bad joke.

[@Blu3-Fir3]

A good chunk of normies still trust Rotten Tomatoes unfortunately.

[@GearShotgun]

I only use rotten tomatoes ironically. If the critic score is low and the audience high. I trust that it’s a good movie. If the opposite is true, I stay away.

[@Fedorevsky]

Yeah regular folks have no clue about all that goes on, they still use Rotten Tomatoes.

[@samuel5591]

I find IMDB is usually a lot closer to my own scores on things so more likely to check that. If I do bother with RT it's only audience scores worth checking.

[@Temuldjin]

The only thing useful are the audience review as whole, same with gaming... and it's been like this for at least 10 years.

[@AReallyUnrealOne]

Mauler should be a guest commentator for How It Should Have Ended. Have him be the owner of the Hero Café and the Villain Pub, always behind the counter pointing things out and making sarcastic comments.

[@SumDumGy]

That’s still a thing? I stopped watching when they stopped making me laugh.

[@nhagan001]

I would love to see Mauler doing that.

[@anthonyml7]

"Where's Luke!?" SO true! the lack of even mentioning the OG characters is pretty weird.

[@iceguy9723]

Ha ha ha. Chris thinks IMDB isn't rigged. Ha ha ha.

[@Gojeto346]

he’s part of the problem, he’s still connected to Hollywood and still covers for them which is why he tried to praise the Flash and Ahsoka and every other garbage thing that came out

[@TheSatisfiedPig]

​@@Gojeto346didn't he also like TLJ?

[@alex9x9]

​@Gojeto346 yea, i remember the stream where he said that the Flash was really good if you get past the 1 hour of 2 Ezra Millers doing Ezra Miller cringy stuff. 1) not true, the rest of the movie was garbage as well. 2) are we supposed to endure 1 hour of shit to even get a decent movie? Is the bar so low for him? Yea, to me, this seems like he's shilling

[@alex9x9]

And, in the case that he's not a shill, then he's one of the most easily entertainable people i've seen online

[@catinthekitchen1]

I was pretty disappointed when I heard about the sequel to the Joker. The great atmosphere that they created in it is just not going to exist in the sequel, it just sounds like a Broadway parody Edit: Dissapointed that it was even being made. I think the first one has some important messages about depression and society's inability to help

[@alexholker1309]

1:19:25 I disagree with Mauler here. Disney might lack the skill or the patience to set it up properly, but Thrawn's use of psychological warfare is half of what makes him such an interesting character. He's not merely a commander who finds innovative tools and exploits them to devastating effect, he uses those tools in ways that invite others to assume his capabilities are even greater. If he's not notorious in-universe then he's not doing his job.

[@IdealX-fr4eg]

Heir to the empire made Thrawn a mysterious but almost understandable villain. I totally agree done right they should focus on a Thrawn movie. Make him the Star through his eyes 👀 from childhood on.

[@laurenmasters]

Hope that guy is ok … now that you’ve reached out 🤞❤️🙏

[@louthinator]

so... with Thrawn, why so many people loved him is he was genuinely very intelligent and ruthless... The theme they set up with him was he lost because of the ambition of those who served under him which would lead them to ignore his orders and try to do their own thing which would ultimately cost them the battle. He was the embodiment of that one star trek quote of "you can do everything perfectly and still lose that isn't weakness that is life". That said, as has been pointed out many times, a character is only as intelligent as those who write them which is why he was so heavily ruined in rebels where he started making very unintelligent decisions out of nowhere like he suddenly lost his greatest trait, and in ahsoka he's now going to be completely ruined because the current star wars writing staff are completely retarded. In other words... yet another great character with amazing potential squandered and ruined by shit writing at disney.

[@adammeyer6650]

I hope this is the final nail in the coffin. Sad to say but I kind of expected the big D to desecrate the traditional cinematic characters. Was hoping the EU would be left alone though after Disney made it seem like they didn’t care about it. Yet here they are barbecuing one of the nost sacred cows more serious fans had left…it’s kind of like hearing that there’s a gang of necrophiles marauding through your town. Are there worse things to worry about? Sure. But how long can we really ignore this stuff and be alright with ourselves?

[@kingleech16]

Another very smart writing choice in the Heir to the Empire Trilogy was never showing a scene from Thrawn's perspective. It made him much more mysterious and left you wondering things like whether he really got tactical insight from a species' art, or if that was a misdirect to maintain his air of invincibility. Having Pellaeon as the POV meant you could see what Thrawn was doing and the effect it had on his subordinates, but made Thrawn seem more unpredictable and dangerous.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@adammeyer6650man! That necrophile analogy is creepy as fk but spot-on. Disney is doing it with Star Wars, Marvel, and their own stuff, Amazon is doing it with LOTR (although Warner started it with the Hobbit and even the original movies), Apple is doing it with Foundation, Netflix is doing it with History... no wonder why Brian Niemeier, author of "Don't Give Money To People Who HATE You" calls them the death cult...

[@crumblyburgers]

Here's another problem with this episode of Asohka. This is the mid season. This should have been like episode 2. The fact that they keep drawing these shows out longer and longer where nothing interesting or important happens for an entire episode is just the worst.

[@Ravenscroft82]

Gore is a great guy but he does tend to filibuster a LOT; which always means less time for the other, often less well known, panelists.

[@nicholaskinkaid]

1:12:48 THANK YOU, Mauler! I think Drinker had 1 too many drinks to forget an entire movie. 😵‍💫😵

[@laurencerushton3544]

Glorious as ever Drinker and nice to see your sense of pastoral care for those who are in distress. This heretic gives you his blessings.

[@go_rilla262]

Did you turn off Mauler's mic when Chris mentioned Taxi Diver and King of Comedy in reference to Joker?

[@Arborist5851]

I hope that guy is ok we all get sad sometimes

[@johnwalton287]

I love the bit in Braveheart where Arnold says “screw your freedom!”

[@BlargeMan]

Man, one of the best parts of Andor was showing how the Empire is (mostly) scary competent as well as ruthless, demonstrating why our heroes needed to be creative and lucky to win the day. But i guess it's just too hard for modern writers to think their characters out of these jams.

[@criticalcommenter]

Andor, the best of a bad bunch. Gets too much praise for simply not being terrible when it's still pretty poor

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@criticalcommenteryeah, kind of like the movie that spawned it.

[@tylergoodman3560]

No one should be surprised by the bribery on rotten tomatoes. 🎉

[@aroyals339]

Except for the amount... $50 made me genuinely laugh.

[@slicedbread5692]

I am shocked the entire panel chose Schwarzenegger over Stallone. I feel like Stallone has a lot more roles that display his acting skills. Arnie just always plays himself. He's like the OG version of The Rock or Ryan Reynolds. They dont act. They just play themselves, but Stallone actually plays a character. He's a much better actor.

[@TheUltimateBastich]

Yeah Stallone is a better actor, but Arnie has more memorable and entertaining movies.

[@overrclocked]

100% agree with both of you

[@slicedbread5692]

@@TheUltimateBastich idk if I agree with that. I assume you're saying Terminator is better than Rocky? Predator better than Rambo? Let's not forget Stallone has written and directed a ton of his own movies. Schwarzenegger can't compete with that.

[@Soridan]

​@@slicedbread5692he didn't say better. He said more memorable and entertaining, utterly subjective descriptors.

[@slicedbread5692]

@@Soridan k

[@steveswafen2528]

Thanks for reposting as only got up to just after Gore left so have something to watch before work so thanks 💯

[@Sonic-hq9zz]

1:55:20 I can’t wait for my Critical Doggo plush 😁

[@kazuma_koon]

What no one seems to be talking about with this show is with lightsaber battles you HAVE to be able to use the force. Pre-Disney if you couldn't use the force while battling with lightsabers you can't sense blaster bolts to block them, you can't counter a force users in melee combat(even IF you are well trained), you aren't able to handle the power put behind a strike with a force user and finally you can't sense the intent behind the opponent (force user) if you are battling ESPECIALLY if you can't use the force....this is sad, just sad.

[@stoneymahoney9106]

As clear as all that's made in expanded universe stuff, the closest it ever gets to the main movie series is the blind-helmet exercise in New Hope and that you see the younglings doing in whichever prequel that was, but the rules around it are never made explicitly clear, so what is otherwise a very cool expansion on how the Force works get relegated to the level of head-cannon elsewhere.

[@kazuma_koon]

@@stoneymahoney9106 It was in the books that GL approved before Disney. Plus I don't think anyone with fencing skills could block blaster bolts. Read the books if you ever get a chance, they are VERY good.

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

The issue there is you said “pre-Disney”. A lot of things have changed since Disney bought it, and most of it hasn’t been for the better.

[@nlbite]

So addressing the Star Wars multi-verse rumor. I went to film school to become a screenwriter. One of the most insightful things a teacher taught me was about trends in Hollywood. How film execs seem to always learn the WRONG lessons from films *like assuming people liked Deadpool cuz it was an R rated superhero film and not cuz it was witty and entertaining* and that films heavily rely on popular trends. So much so these trends often become overused tropes that are just worn out to DEATH. And one of the most common trends today is... multi-verses. It's sci-fi mumbo-jumbo that gives filmmakers the excuse to get together all the popular character from past and future into one cameo member-berry fueled garbage. So yes, I think Disney is dumb enough to try and shoehorn a multi-verse story into Star Wars. It's the hot new thing in modern Hollywood.

[@jayboy2kay7]

This. I’ve said this about the “Multiverse” thing in movies for a while now. The actual science behind quantum physics and many worlds theory is fascinating, however these dumb movies have skewed the perception of what all of it actually is, especially like Ant-Man and the “quantum realm” being some magical fairy land, it is madness and normies now think they can school you on scientific subjects that they have ZERO real knowledge about.

[@sagiriizumi8079]

They cancelled the Extended Universe, BUT!… cherry picked a popular character from it

[@onequickthing8950]

JOKER WAS NOT MODELED AFTER TAXI DRIVER!!!!! Sorry i yelled, this is important. Joker was modeled after Bernhard Goetz, who copied the movie Taxi Driver. Goetz shot four black kids on a subway, like Joker. Bickle shot people in a brothel. There was racial tension in NYC when the Goetz thing happened. There was economic tension at the time this movie was made, so they made a god damn amalgam of the two. Instead of shooting black guys, he shot rich guys, leading to violence in the streets. So there's a layer of meta and irony that you're missing. Joker is a fake character, who's copying a real person who copied a fake character. So what the movie is about is fake media creating real violence.

[@BurnDoubt]

Very interesting 🤔

[@Riley_Mundt]

The Bernie Geotz comparison goes even harder when you understand the reason he did what he did was because there was a long string of armed assaults and robberies on the NYC subway at the time.

[@onequickthing8950]

@@Riley_Mundt Yeah, the guys that got shot were known to hold people up on the subway with sharpened screwdrivers. So Geotz became a vigilantly hero to half the city and a dangerous menace to the other half. The incident poured gasoline on the already tense racial situation, potentially leading to riots on the street. The parallels are pretty striking.

[@Uzarran]

In response to the "Trolley" question at 1:44:00, I wonder if the _Blazing Saddles_ solution (ringing a bell mid-way through the word) would still count?

[@ThaYoungChad]

The downfall of Disney needs to be studied in school. Do not piss off your audience

[@dahelmang]

1:52:40 the trailers for SWTOR are works of art! The game itself is fun, but the trailers are magnificent.

[@Sinister134]

Great to listen to while playing some games on a saturday

[@andreasauder2855]

In the "heir to the empire" the imperials were looking for the "lost katana fleet" and were kind hoping Thrawn wasn't with them

[@philipvaglica1226]

Keep up the great work Drinker and Mauler!!

[@rageshadey]

it's posted 15 mins ago, is 2 hours long. BUT I saw it was about Rotten Tomatoe being busted so I knew I would love this episode. XD

[@timothypolanco8622]

The Bar is open and welcoming to all !!!

[@ragunamist677]

That mummy quote makes me want to watch the series again. So good

[@nealsterling8151]

Multiverse: the death of all canon

[@Maybeyoudorho]

Lmao it cracks me up but I’m not surprised by the fact Hollywood hates Drinker

[@benjamingrant5970]

"Producers HATE him! Learn why with 1 weird trick..."

[@digitbiatch]

Depressing spoiler: mega holding companies become largest share holders in public companies, push esg to ruin stock value, then buy up the rest of the capital at rock bottom prices. But who would do that kind of thing, really.?. I can't imagine 🤷‍♂️

[@Whocaresanymore970]

I think I have heard something about a certain group with a tendency to do such underhanded practices throughout history.

[@TheWackycodered]

I don’t understand?

[@davidgkirk]

I follow the stock market. Disney's stock price decline has more to do with ESPN than their movies, streaming service, and theme parks. ESPN is a large part of Disney's revenue and losing profitability due to cable cutting, unbundling, and rise in the cost of sports. Also, the 2nd largest cable provider Charter just dropped ESPN due to its high price. ESPN is the most likely asset to be sold or spun off according to many analysts.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Analysts have been saying that for over 20 years. If it's valuable..then why would Disney drop it. Answer for the past 20 years. No.

[@IsaacCordingley]

Timestamps on the video would be awesome Drinker 🙏

[@luca99191]

They don’t use the tractor beam in empire because the falcon is wizzing about moving in all different directions. In a new hope they come out of light speed and go in a straight line and they don’t really know what’s happening. They’re totally aware of the threat in empire. 1:48.40

[@Hardunkenchud]

Really wish they had someone that knew old starwars ledgends so that they could explain that most of the lore is explained in some way or another usually pretty well. As far as I know tractor beams like the one used on the first Death Star were only on special ships that would accompany fleets and prevent ships from moving drawing them in further the bigger the ship likely the better the tractor beam. And they even had ships the empire specifically that prevented hyperspace in their immediate area to prevent retreat. All of my ledgends knowledge comes from the games. The games did a great job of creating a narrative that made sense. Even separate, they were cohesive in the overall narrative of Star Wars. Battlefront 2 force unleashed republic commando. These games did what Disney is trying to do by expanding the universe and lining their pockets only we were happy to do that before and now I'm just empty about starwars. I still love my sw games and the saga 6 movies ...

[@verazollinger6862]

There is a channel, Thor Skywalker

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Don't forget about the original Clone Wars! The 2D one that bridges the gap between Attack and Revenge.

[@irvhh143]

Yeah, I thought that Lucas should have had a core group of writers whose only function was to maintain the lore. To my surprise, I recently found out they did that. Either the group didn't know how to do their job, or the producers ignored them.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

@@irvhh143 Kennedy oe Filoni or whoever literally decanonized everything but the six Lucas movies. Even the 2D Clone Wars are kind of abandonware and you can watch them here. That's why they Lore Council (ha) was moot.

[@shaunmcgough7227]

46:25 Funny, when I was young, the best thing about the awards was watching Joan Rivers on the red carpet.

[@spawnmc4401]

They will replace Majors with Don Cheadle!

[@kingleech16]

Kang is a Skrull!

[@blairpearson9791]

People creaming their jeans over Anakin showing up forget he showed up last year in obi wan lol

[@eduardofreitas7816]

That Black Knight Jedi Robot reminded me of some Dark Souls character death.

[@TJtheINsomNiac]

Yuuuuuusss, ITS OPEN BAAAR

[@borisbuliak3626]

Ain’t it snow yellow? My bad brown?

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

I missed it live. Reading the comments now...I hope that guy is okay. No wonder the whole energy of the stream changed so suddenly. The super chat was edited out. Understandably so. Trust me when I say that I'm so sorry you guys had to go through that. I understand how difficult it is to deal with these issues in people. I used to do see it occasionally in patients when I was in the army.

[@CrypticSquirrel]

I think he rightly, edited it out of the upload from the live stream out of respect. CD is such a down to earth and humble guy. ❤

[@rajabcroswell9020]

Ok, that explains why the original stream disappeared after I had started watching it.

[@ashfaqkhan8570]

Wait... A Film Starring Daisy Ridley Would be CRAP, Who Knew!

[@charlestonjew7587]

Swinging swords in a pub for me is fighting over the urinal.

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

Fast and Furious 24: Wheels on Wheelchairs!

[@AZ-FYR-ARMS]

I honestly wait until you all review the movie before I go watch it.

[@zartic4life]

I just want to thank The Movie Cynic for sharing his thoughts.

[@samuel5591]

Agreed. Cynic is awesome and well worth subscribing to.

[@Drawnartist]

​​@@samuel5591it was sarcasm bro. He didn't say anything

[@85blutch]

While Chris Gore can't shut up...@@Drawnartist

[@Gator159]

Here we are

[@KitsuneAdorable]

13:50 There where two KZbinrs who I used to be subscribed to that basically shill Nu Trek. No episode was awful to the one girl, (who I was subscribed to at the time in 2021) she loved every bland diversity actor/character, good episode or bad episode. Nothing to say regarding what she thought was weird or silly, or could have been fixed. Every episode was perfect to her. She praised the bland boring Trill chick (from ST: Discovery). That’s why I watch y’all and your fellow reviewers. All of you nitpick the stupid stuff, and are positive when they don’t screw any anything. Appreciated. 👍

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

As a retired comics and game illustrator, I love the fact that - although he is German - MetalCommander looks like a transporter-beam-accident-mix of Vlad Tepescu and Gimli.

[@RhysCallinan-wc9fi]

In the EFAP Gollum stream Rags said he looked like Rasputin

[@ZachPrime]

I can understand them pushing up the speed on arcane, not simply because oh yeah people like this and we obviously want to keep the momentum, but just because of the effect of edgerunners for CD project. That series built a community around a game that had completely floundered its potential and is now effectively being allowed to have their release day happen all over again. That kind of PR is impossibly valuable.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

Cyberpunk 2077 stills eats anus.

[@JayM928]

1:27:14 yes. I reflect on that every time I find myself dumbfounded by 10/10 IMDb reviews of shows like lost in space. There is apparently a market for pretty shows with insanely bad writing.

[@startrekker5888]

I don't bother with lying tomatoes reviews. It's amazing to me how companies often get customers opinions on your service via customer surveys and if you don't get a 9 or 10 you have failed. Why does this not apply to movies for instance.😢

[@neanderthalknight9417]

1:09:23 the hybrids we saw in the clone wars did

[@lynngreen7978]

But will the ESPN package include The Ocho?

[@carlettoburacco9235]

I just saw a picture of a sad Mickey Mouse walking head down away from a crashing down shares graph. This makes me sad and furious. I owe Disney part of my education. When I was 4 and a half years old I bothered my mother for weeks until she agreed to teach me to read: I WANTED and HAD TO read the Disney comics they had given me as gifts. When I was about to start school at 6 years old I had already moved on to Marvel and DC superhero comics and started reading some books. My first years of school were an easy sail. These idiots inherited the goose that lays the golden egg and slowly and painfully strangled it and ate it because "it is immoral to exploit an animal" or something like that. May they burn for eternity in a comic book hell.

[@Foggymist399]

Just started episode 3 of the opem bar and you convinced me lasy night to watch unforgiven. Damn ehat a film.

[@nicholasvinen]

Have you seen Gran Torino? Also great...

[@TheSatisfiedPig]

I think as far as use of the Force in duels goes, you do have to consider that it takes focus to both use the Force and keep up defense/offense with the lightsaber. So I think what you'd see would be either sneak attacks with the Force, like a quick push to a limb or body, or they'd generate some kind of bubble around themselves that wards off or negates Force attacks while they're fighting. I think it'd be really difficult to manage both since a duel is lightning fast as it is. In the OT, Vader threw objects at Luke with the Force, he didn't really throw a barrage of Force attacks at him and it was usually done when they had some distance between them.

[@sivad1025]

Right? Remember when Yoda had to concentrate just to spin one of the Senate seats at Palpatine? The problem with the force is that Disney has made it so easy to use the they destroyed all the natural limitations implied in Lucas' films

[@scorpixel1866]

@@sivad1025 The original 2003 animated Clone wars show (in 2D drawing) had by far the best Grievous, where his entire combat strategy revolved around making sure Jedi would not be able to use their powers. I heavily recommend searching for the clips on YT if you haven't already seen those.

[@sivad1025]

@@scorpixel1866 I watched 2003/5 Clone Wars when it came out lol Grevious is definitely way better

[@seanarsenault6097]

I prefer the zombies trend to the battle royale trend.

[@urvakshbagwadia9758]

Drinker should review Jawan

[@BalzMahoney]

"See you at the party Richter". - Quaid, Total Recall Someone said it as I was typing this. My ultimate favorite. 😂❤

[@kevinmccabe7263]

Twisted Metal could have been good but honestly Stephanie Beatriz' character killed it for me. Her character is absolutely insufferable. Anthony Mackie absolutely carried that show on his back.

[@xitaris5981]

I actually liked Adam Driver in 65. It's kind of a like a classic shipwreck or plane crash movie and a better version of After Earth. And the development of Adam Driver's character as you learn is backstory is well done too. Granted, some of the dinosaurs are poorly cgi, but their interactions with the humans are realistic and meaningful, imo. spoilers: The only thing I didn't like was that he was ready to pull the trigger on suicide after his daughter died during his 2? year trip that he went on so he could afford her treatment. Yes, his daughter is dead, yes he crashed, but it didn't even seem like it was difficult to come up with a plan to get to his home planet and he still had a wife at home.

[@WayStedYou]

I just watched 65 the other night. Wss nowhere near as bad as i was expecting, then I found it was only a 40m budget film. If they had a bit better editing, it would've been better. I think he wanted to off himself because he didn't know the girl was alive and the rest of the escape pods and a rescue ship would get there way after he had died.

[@kennyhudson9201]

A better version of After Earth is an insult. A deserved insult for 65. Both movies were just bad. 65 was maybe a half a percent better. Maybe.

[@TheFanOrTheMask]

reapect to the panel, John,stay strong

[@JoTheVeteran]

1:44:10 I gave it to ChatGPT and it replied "I'm very sorry, but I can't assist with that question." 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ericwong6531]

Why am I not surprised with all is going on with the entertainment industry in general.

[@AmericanRollo]

Fast-Ten Your Seatbelt. The Paul Walker story

[@BurnDoubt]

The German industrial rock band Rammstein made a very intriguing take on Snow White in their music video for the song *Sonne* Look it up, its guaranteed to be better and more thought-provoking than whatever Disney was about to crap out into theaters

[@pfizerpricehike9747]

It’s almost like they watched the source material at least once prior to filming Almost like they even understood the source material behind the original animated adaptation. Or the cultural background of the writers, place and time of the story Imagine Hollywood could do that

[@vonpredator]

The song is Sonne

[@BurnDoubt]

@@vonpredator yup, said that 👆 right up there. In *bold*

[@cozzie4ra]

Unfortunately Rammstein lead singer has been cancelled and the band sided with the "victims?"

[@BurnDoubt]

@@cozzie4ra I prefer to see evidence before branding aanyone as a monster. Until then I'll assume it's just the wrath of women scorned, especially when the initial accuser said herself Lindemann never touched her at all, let alone inappropriately. Her words, not mine.

[@Le_Saboteur]

Damn right!

[@blairpearson9791]

Modern star wars is slowly becoming just dangling keys in-front of a toddler and then everyone praising it for doing the bare minimum

[@snugsmchuggsly5449]

Other guests again?? I fell asleep to Gore going on and on, and woke up to Gore still going on and on. This is why i prefer him on Film Threat, or the Nooner.

[@jimmyb79]

He ruins open bar for me. None of the other guests get a word in.

[@borisbuliak3626]

Hook up the catheter drink heines in copious pints 🍺

[@SallyWrites923]

Darth Vader was the hero. A great leader that answered subordinates questions without arrogance explaining his reasoning and he never started a fight. In the OT everyone else ignited their lightsabre first and Vader reacted.

[@SumStupidPunk]

Chris Gore Realllllly loves to monopolize conversations, doesn't he?

[@Jo-bs2uu]

I am glad Netflix Daredevil had a pretty conclusive arc ending season. Charlie Cox did great and I'd feel too gross seeing him in the MCU

[@Jays_dead_cat]

What exactly happened on this stream that was cut? I missed it live

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

Based on what I read in the comments below, a super chat was sent in. The chat contained a self deletion note.

[@dudesayingthings]

If they do cancel Snow White, I hope whoever tells Rachel Zegler the news records her reaction, cuz that shit will go viral.

[@S4ns]

Look, Chris Gore seems like a good dude and I appreciate his insight into the industry but he has a habit of turning what should be a 1 minute answer into a 20 minute story ... for Every. Single. Question. He. Is. Ever. Asked.

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

the bigger prob is repeating what is said on 5 different shows in one week. only ppl w/NO imagination do that.

[@TheEg33]

plus! are we to believe someone who has been in this industry, shilling for, and commenting on the state of movies, and how they are perceived, never reads reviews. come on.

[@SlipdeGarcondeJour]

Worst Open Bar I can recall was one that had him and Paul Chato bouncing off each other. They went on, and on, and on...

[@benjamingrant5970]

​@@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArtIn fairness, there's no real way to gauge who's actually watching ALL the shows. Sure, a LOT do, but a lot don't.

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

@@benjamingrant5970 good point! But it's always important for a pundit to "keep things fresh".

[@pauld6967]

Chris Gore is right, the Roger Corman version of Fantastic Four is the version that stays the most faithful to the FF origin story. He is correct that bootleg copies were available at conventions. I just found a KZbin channel that had the entire movie and the visual quality was better than I had previously seen.

[@djdadbod]

1:05:34 this is exactly what they did with Captain Phasma, acted like she was going to be something big and then was just gone

[@kodacustoms]

I've got a bad feeling about this...