Optiplex 7090 SFF Budget Gaming PC

[@Woodwerker]

Love this channel. I like you also buy these used office PCs. I have been case swapping them too sometimes. How much did you get this PC for? When you run the Heaven benchmark, what are your settings? It means a LOT in terms of the performance numbers. For example, tessellation - is it on or off and if on to what degree - off, low, medium, etc? This one setting will totally change the results of any video card. Sorry not trying to nitpick you whatsoever. Games do use tessellation and I think it is important to tell us what all the settings are when you run this benchmark, which is a very good benchmark and easy for anyone to run. Anyhow - thanks for having this channel. It is quality and never miss a video. Take care.

[@RobertFixit]

When you say Optiplex, I say yes sir! I keep forgetting there are newer optiplex models to be found. If someone selling just thought it was some old PC, you could score a good deal.

[@jamesross3939]

Liked and subscribed!

[@stevenwilliams6638]

This is quickly becoming my favorite channel, as I am also a Dad who likes to tinker with small for factor oem pc’s. I’d like to see what the single slot Intel cards can do in the more modern machine. Keep up the great work!

[@basicdadtech]

Thank you 🙏

[@fabsenbmx]

the 7010 back in the day still had the PCIE Slots correct with the x16 on top

[@amdhehe]

Surprising that the 4th gen i7 you tested this Gpu on a few videos ago, performs basically the same as this 11th gen i5

[@justhenry1264]

wrong title ? the title said it is optiplex 3090 but the video is 7090 btw i have optiplex 5090 with same spec but 256 gb ssd and 32 gb ram , very decent pc !

[@TrusteftTech]

It's just the same. Just double it, then add 1000 and then subtract 90. Don't be so picky! Very stupid jokes aside, I am sure it's just a typo. Yes I did borrow the joke from Elaine from Seinfeld when she was giving her new phone number to a guy.

[@basicdadtech]

lol. 😂

[@DraidK]

yo thanks for another awesome video ❤

[@JacobVanStratenInnocent]

Great job! Now put it in a new larger case!🎉

[@andrewpark885]

Would be very interested to see how the arc a310 eco low profile/slim GPU does in something like this, since it can do rebar

[@budfuggins639]

Yes, and see if you can get the OEM single slot RX 6500 for your comparison video.

[@TheGameBench]

With the 6400, it's not so much the average frame rate that you have to pay attention to. It's the frame rate consistency. It can be A LOT more than 12% in a Gen3 slot, but you can avoid those issues for the most part if you stay away from the VRAM limit. And the 6400 temps are just how they are. Mine gets into the 80's on an open test bench. Some people have had luck putting a 40mm fan at the rear of the card to bring temps down some. As for the CPU... yeah, the stock cooler isn't great, and you might be able to bring down temps by adding a front 80mm fan. At least that's what I've seen in my testing.

[@basicdadtech]

👍 what surprised me the most was the noise level

[@mostviciousplayers2028]

what do you recommend psu for SFF? 80+ gold?

[@rickgrimes931]

Was there an MT version of the 7090?

[@basicdadtech]

Yes there is.

[@fifty1971]

Try it out with a 3050 low profile or even better the 4060 low profile if you get your hands on one of those

[@ghostnote-6]

I bought a Dell 5060 with an RX550 the other day, and the card was idling at 100% load at all times. I tried to update the drivers using the AMD app and the thing glitched my computer out midway and gave me a blue screen error every time I tried to boot. I ended up doing a fresh install of Win11 and it booted, but the 100% idling load was still a problem. I ended up just taking the card out because I didn't want any more issues. You have any idea what I can do to make the GPU usable?

[@RaffyART1995]

RTX 3050 6GB low profile should work well in it, it is 70 watts and cost the same as the rx 6400.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

1:17 yes, they're obviously doing that on purpose. They've been doing that for generations, and I hate them for it. I pretty much refuse to buy a Dell that does that anymore, which rules out this model, and a lot of others. They did okay with the mid towers, but they screwed up the SFFs pretty much every time. Lately I picked up a Lenovo M93/p, that isn't like that. I can fit a dual slot, half height GPU in there, which gives me the option of a 3050 6GB, or even a 4060 LP with maybe power adapters or a PSU swap. I guess I could still do that with a Dell, and a really slim (FlexATX) PSU; as I had that idea and posted about it. ETA PRIME did it (maybe he read my post) and proved it possible. The Lenovo M93/p has kind of the opposite problem as the SFF Dells: a slot that's useless. What can you use a PCI slot for anymore? Especially a low profile one? I mean really... USB 3.0 ports? This PC already has 6 of them. A sound card? Who buys those? There's just very little practical purpose. Maybe there was a use case back in 2013 when the machine was introduced. But now? I can't really think of one.

[@tlumme]

have Lenovo ThinkCentre M58p SFF and added Intel Arc A380 Low Profile card + 500w psu sfx size .. cheap gaming machine

[@InsaneBean122]

best budget office pc to use in my opion is the Lenovo p-520, specs in mine is 900 watt psu comes with 2 , 8 pin graphic card connectors, has 2 nvme slots, has plenty of sata connectors, a 6 core 12 thread zeon processor clocked at 4.7 gigahertz has windows 11 no compromising to install it at all installs normally, 32 gigs of ram clocked at 2666, Zeon's run just as good on 2666 as 3200 since there processors isn't so much dependent on ram speeds, i got it for under 200 usd, then added a 6700xt to it , man it absolutely destroys this pc or any other office pc ive came across period ive seen nothing else close to it got around 400 usd total in the system i bet no one can find anything cheaper that compares to it , i challenge them to try, to match its price to performance

[@newstodayyt1]

Dell pls stop this PCIe placement nonsense you guys are the most popular prebuilt solution

[@TheGameBench]

In some of the most recent Precision SFF systems they've moved the x16 slot back to the correct location. Sadly, not with the Optiplex systems, which doesn't make much sense because they typically use the same boards. So... maybe there's hope that they'll stop doing this on the Optiplex as well.

[@ZARuslan]

@@TheGameBench I think they make it on purpose. Weak gpu on bottom, upper slot pci ssd

[@varkin794]

I have a Dell Vostro with the same PCIe placement. I took out the power supply and put it on top of the case. This way the case has space for a double slot gpu, in my case I'm using RTX 3050.

[@TheGameBench]

@@ZARuslan I don't think it's on purpose, it think it had more to do with the fact that there was no real reason that the market they were selling these system to would install a dual slot card in them. They were either going to install something like an OEM RX 550 or a Quadro, and those were all single slot cards. The only way I could see it being intentional would be to push people to a more expensive system to run something like an A2000, dual slot LP workstation cards didn't exist until recently. And even then, the Precision was configured the same. Still, I don't understand what benefit there was to Dell to move the x16 slot down. And even HP started doing this with the 600 series systems. At least the 800 series was left alone. But this is why I've been telling people to look to the HP Z2 workstations.

[@TheGameBench]

@@varkin794 Another option is to replace the power supply with a Flex ATX unit. Then you could have the power supply in the system and run a dual slot card in the x16 slot.

[@SucramHu]

You'd be better off buying a brand new Lenovo Legion Go which occasionally goes on sale for $499, runs Spiderman Remastered @1200p with FPS in the 40-50s range, dock it and it becomes a desktop pc.

[@ramonwest3684]

I made a similar build a few weeks ago hoping to have the minimum specs for Star Wars Outlaws Dell Optiplex 5090 CPU i5 11400 GPU rx6400 I cannot get Fortnite to maintain 60fps, even with resolution set to 1600x900 on medium settings, am I missing something? I have better raw performance for more demanding games (Warzone, Battlefield 2042) on my older Dell Optiplex 9020 with i7 4790 and rx6600

[@basicdadtech]

Even on Performance mode Fortnite can’t run? And how does it do with Star Wars Outlaws?

[@ramonwest3684]

@@basicdadtech Star Wars Outlaws on lowest settings is about 22fps for the intro city. Not very good at all. Fortnite runs at 1600x900 medium settings, but varies from 40-60 on any match, sometimes dropping down to 15-20fps for a few seconds. Not sure where performance mode is in the settings I’ll look for that tonight and leave an update.

[@ramonwest3684]

I think I’m missing something though, I expected performance to be a lot better for this setup. As far as I know I have up to date drivers for GPU but I’ll check that too

[@ramonwest3684]

@@basicdadtech I found the problem, I had graphics api set to DX11 instead of DX12, now Fortnite runs a solid 60fps 1080 medium which is good enough for me :)

[@amyn227]

The full size, 16x pci-e at lower slot make ppl hate n throw this optiplexs from dell.

[@archangelmusic13]

well you know right away this is a newer pc since it takes m.2

[@igors_lv]

grab blower style cooler GPU, cut out that PSU shroud and there will be decent cooling ;))) Or perhaps PSU shroud is removable.. those 3 screws look suspicious

[@natejennings5884]

If you can't find or afford an AMD RX 6400 grab an AMD RX 550 (4GB, gen 3). Both are better than Nvidia's low profile GT 1030 2GB.

[@anxietyrapsfr]

144-200 frames on Fortnite? I want one lol

[@gigi_jwz]

Put a GeForce yrx 7090 in it

[@onoffgeorg9828]

does optiplex support unlock power limits cpu? in asus mobo i set power limits to 150watt and i7 10700 runs from 65w to 120w! with amazing performance kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYvRqH-Qgbp7pas

[@TheGameBench]

Not in the BIOS. But you can always use something like XTU or ThrottleStop to remove the power limits, so long as the VRM can keep up, and I'm pretty sure it can do 120 watts since I've been able to push near that in a 5060 with an i7 8700.

[@onoffgeorg9828]

@@TheGameBench 8700 110watt is amazing! A i5 9500 at 100watt is better than i7 7700k oc! 100watt unlock is super overclock

[@onoffgeorg9828]

@@TheGameBench kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnm4dZiYq9Vpj9Usi=kFW4_nuCHTOkyBw-

[@TheGameBench]

@@onoffgeorg9828 That's a lot of power for an i5 9500. The most I've seen a 9500 consume with the limits removed was 88 watts... in a realistic workload. I had a second one here that I couldn't to consume more than about 75 watts, but it performed the same. I think due to a combination of being slightly higher quality silicon as well as running at lower temps.

[@onoffgeorg9828]

@@TheGameBench correctly. But i5 8500 and mobo cost about 100dollars. No one cares if they die or live after 2,3 years lol We already use 12400, 8700, 11400 10700 . U can find good prices ... And prices go down...10400 for 70 dollars etc