Orange TH30 VS Dark Terror

[@megadead]

Just to repeat what others have said - thanks for playing modern stuff in your demos. It's really appreciated. I was racking my brain for a while there, but finally got the Radiohead Jigsaw tune at 2:36! Lovely stuff, cheers.

[@ExplicableCashew]

Man, most guitar gear reviewers don't play in the styles that I like, so I'm so happy I found you!! Someone might be reviewing a distorted sound and then only play a solo with a lot of reverb, or go straight metal -- which is nice, but I'll still have no idea if it works for something like Fall Out Boy etc. Your musical influences are so well aligned with mine, it's always a joy to watch.

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Thanks for your feedback, It really does help 👍

[@beau-2222]

Best review channel. The only true one in my opinion.

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Thanks mate 👍

[@DLC-music]

Totally!

[@CreeplessOfficial]

it's fucking difficult to find demos like this. Nice quality and taste.

[@AaronYoon]

Wow this is literally the best amp comparison video channel ever. This video was exactly what I was looking for

[@copeenthuisiast5453]

You seriously do the best amp demos on youtube!

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Thanks, I really appreciate it 👍

[@retrofloppyOfficial]

Man I so fell in love with the TH30 from your demos I need to get myself one. Never heard anything as pleasing as the sound of those orange amps, even marshalls never really sounded that great to me.

[@jej3films]

Seriously the best reviews on YT! I ended up buying my TH30 because of one of your videos 😎

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Thanks, really does help 👍

[@Walkerbjj]

I'm a boutique gear snob BUT seriously considering a th30...I've heard lots of clips that sound amazing and I love the simplicity of it

[@maconpittman9188]

Definitely a very similar dirty channel, but I prefer the th30 because of all the power options and the dedicated clean channel

[@scootergreen3]

This is the best demo I've ever seen, you played the exact same thing on both amps which is what I want and you used shape control! Excellent tunes with good taste as well.

[@dickieradd]

I'm a huge fan of a shape or contour knob versus EQ. It's the exact same thing as going back and forth with the treble and mids, but all in one sweep. It has a tone for everyone in it.

[@carlericsson7349]

Thanks! I’m so glad to see someone demoing modern sounds that people actually play (or in my case try to), instead of some weird ass blues lick that expired before the Ice age ended. Keep up the good work!

[@zeestrees2780]

Actually though

[@bradleydrawsweirdstuff]

Great video! Very right to the point no wasted time, or long lecture for 10 minutes about the history of orange. Both amp heads sound awesome

[@bxbbyxx]

Clean on the dark terror surprised me, so nice

[@kmw5100]

You had me at The Middle. TH30 seems like a great amp for that style right out of the box, very simple controls, just a perfect thick crunch.

[@belatoth178]

Your comparison is correct and it gave me an incentive to engage myself in a TH30

[@xthexadvantagex]

I much prefer the TH but I weirdly think the terror would stand out better in a mix or live

[@jensvide777]

You might be right. I have the Dark Terror and it has a lot of high end. I like to roll the tone control on my guitar down when I'm playing alone so it's not so harsh.

[@thesuppcollector]

I had the th30, ran it though a 2x12 closed back with eminence speakers and it had a really hard time cutting through the mix with just drums at a band practice

[@Ron4president09]

@@thesuppcollector eminence sounds great solo but seem to lack some of the mids needed to cut through live mix. I bet a celestion v30/g12h70/or creamback would have done a much better job cutting through

[@toemasmeems]

They sounded the same as far as distortion i own the jim root terror i LOVE IT

[@FlorianGuitar85]

KZbin's BEST amp review channel! Toby, get some merch going, how about a shirt saying "Less talking, more chugging!"? I would definitely buy one 😎 You're working your ass off with really great and useful content, you should at least be patronized in some way.

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Thanks mate, it's really appreciated. That's a decent idea. I might look at doing something when i reach 5k subscribers 👍

[@neoaureus]

Well After your videos I got a TH30 combo ....and a Micro Dark....

[@fioredeiliberi9552]

Me too, TH30 and Micro Dark :-))))

[@GarryWan666]

Even though I am a Marshall fan, I am still glad to hear some more modern punk rock here!

[@michaelmitchell5909]

I owned a dark terror, traded in on the th 30, ....that runs thru an orange 2x12, with a whirlwind 10 band eq thru the effects loop... Sounds sick!...I love orange gear, never had any problems so far...

[@chusmusic]

Hi Michael, that's the thing about this amp. I'm not totally sure about that 2 band with shape EQ. About the whirlwind, Are you running also delay and reverb in the loop? Is the EQ affecting them as well you put it before them?

[@allgamingnetwork9448]

you just had to hit me in the feels right away huh

[@HighGainsDrifter]

This was a really great review. I love orange and you really highlighted the versatility. Subscription worthy!

[@Da_Publick]

Even these two amps go by Orange's _'no Gain before 10 o'clock'_ rule.

[@pwatermountain]

Great video! Thank you for showing the backsides and EQs of the amps ;) I'm happy with my Dark Terror but if I ever need a second channel live I'll think about the TH30 now! thx

[@Mike_the_Barbarian]

Bought the TH30h due to this video.. outstanding playing. The Jimmy Eat world song really showed off what this amp shines at.. Perfect for the pop punk I love to play. The Dark Terror was no slouch as well.. but something about the TH30 stood out.

[@xEvilASh]

How’s the amp? You happy with the tones you’re getting? Can it do Blink 182, Green Day, sum 41 etc?

[@DLC-music]

I like the Th30!!! Super Versatile!

[@brianbeattie4358]

Great demo. Really digging the Dark Terror.

[@AdamBuntain]

Nice comparison. Love the TH30. I was given one as a backline amp on a recent tour and I liked it so much that I immediately bought one when I got home. On that trip I used the dirty channel through a bunch of different cabinets in small/medium clubs and outdoor festivals and it rocked, not one complaint. Plenty of volume and great sound. Since I've owned one I have discovered that I prefer the clean channel. Very responsive, just classic guitar tone. With an overdrive pedal or two it wails. The ability to switch the wattage down to 7W is cool but that 7W is still loud as heck, probably too much for an apartment setting. Orange amps are impressive these days, I wouldn't mind having a couple more of them.

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Yeh 🍊 are killing it at the moment 👍

[@alexm-bx5hy]

Great playing dude thanks for this review

[@markmcgeachy]

" chuggady chug " . lmao . fucking love it !

[@Prossdog]

I wouldn’t choose an Orange for anything mid gain personally, but man those pure cleans and metal tones are incredible. They’re bright and clear but still fat and round. It’s such a unique character.

[@mozilla2576]

Nice work, thank you!

[@alexreich5996]

I really prefer the cleans of the Dark Terror, but all of the dirty sounds of the TH30 over the D.T.

[@crapuleverte]

The Dark Terror sounds a bit more compressed to me ; but still a great valve head ! I would however consider a TH30 for the dedicated clean channel.

[@FEAROWNAGE]

Would love to have a Dark Terror.

[@maxmisbach6035]

Great demo

[@hannibalbarca4140]

Both sound amazing- Dark Terror is half the price.

[@zuckeraffen7803]

and half the power and half the channels :D

[@doomorbedoomed8748]

DT is a great amp, but really a one trick pony. Notice that for the cleans, the volume had to be maxed out.

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

CHUGGADY CHUG! 😂

[@nelsonmuntz6408]

I would say TH30 but both are nice And thanks for your vids !

[@iiivanoeee651]

I was looking for a clean sample od this amp, the Radiohead song it the thing that will make me have this amp, thx for this!!

[@Sigi_Pojara]

Whats the title of this song? I cant remember :D

[@robertciaschini7625]

Very nice. It's a tough choice for me bc no footswitch or separate channels. It's a bit too simple but sounds nice.

[@bjornfsteen]

The Dark Terror was able to keep up across the board with the various dirty tones, but not with the clean tones. So if you're playing all or mostly metal I think the Dark Terror is the clear choice based on cost. But the bigger amp is more of a complete amp, for more uses. Before seeing this demo I was considering the Dark Terror, but not anymore. I like clean tones and sometimes I play a Tele or Strat, and I think the Dark Terror would suck for those tones.

[@Starch1b2c3d4a]

Damn. Didnt know the TH was this good

[@p8emusic]

going to listen to radiohead now!!!! great demo dude!

[@maylavsphilippineschannel4748]

keep it up the good works bro. ..very nice youtube channel. ..

[@LoreAccurateHusky]

I'm starting to think I may have slept on that TH30. I dissmissed it for the "shape" control but that amps sounds pretty monstrous for a simple 30 watt amp. I may give this amp a try the next time I see it and see how well it handles high gain.

[@2000WTube]

Very cool

[@bratondoney8381]

Some old school 30 seconds to mars riffs let’s go

[@prosperity-gospel]

To my ears, the Dark Terror kept up pretty well in the high gain clips, but the clean side just wasn't as good as the TH30's clean channel. Thanks to your channel, I've been able to hear very clear comparisons between the Orange amps and was able to finally pick the one I wanted (just ordered the TH30).

[@xEvilASh]

So how is the TH30 working out for you? Been thinking on pulling the trigger on one myself. I was originally interested on the OR15 but I really need 2 channels.

[@prosperity-gospel]

@@xEvilASh I really, really like it. It's become my favorite amp. The clean channel is really incredible, as you can hear here. The gain channel is excellent as well. I'm a big fan of the shape control vs a typical eq section, because you basically just find where it works best with your other gear and leave it there (in my experience it means less fiddling with it). The only situation where I wouldn't get one is if you want a wide range of sounds out of just one amp. There's no way you'll get a JCM or Blackface sound out of it; it's always going to sound like an Orange (which I think is awesome, but it's just not a super versatile amp).

[@xEvilASh]

@@prosperity-gospel that’s great! Sound wise I’m more of a Mesa guy but I really want to add an Orange. I always thought they looked so cool and from what I’ve seen the TH30 is probably what I’ll end up going with.

[@geomusicmove]

@@xEvilASh I am deciding what Orange amp to buy, so doing some research. How did you find the TH30 if you finally went for it.

[@xEvilASh]

@@geomusicmove I didn’t end up getting it. I picked up a Quad Cortex and I’m quite happy with it for now. I still have my mini recto so might add the Orange still sometime in the future.

[@Alex-yu2wl]

Thanks!

[@lowqualityguitarvideos]

Cleans on the TH30 are pretty

[@BlickFangBand]

They are the best

[@Antonyshong]

TH30!❤🤘😎

[@gearmaster_studio]

Thanks!!!!!+++!!

[@geekzone1]

I love the smoother drive of the TH-30, sounds great if you push the input a bit while reamping. Prefer the bright, crisp cleans of the Dark Terror. Also these sound really interesting through those neo creambacks. Much different than the V30s we're used to hearing.

[@serenysmusic]

That TH30 is so nasty. One of the best heads on the market imho

[@Johnny--gd2fq]

I think the TH sounds slightly better, but i mainly play metal so i guess the dark terror would be a better option for me!

[@LeStraTele]

TH30 sounds a bit fuller in the lows. Other than that, very similar.

[@fuckayouman3869]

i went specially to a specific rehearsal studio in my town pay one hour for a whole room without my band because they got a TH30 , i went to try it before i buy it , with my own cabinet , tube screamer and load box with cab sims into live mixer with 2 100watt speakers that its there for the vocal and here is my conclusions : 1- this amp with maxon 808 infront & MXR 6 band Eq in the loop can dial anything from the sweet 50s jazz to modern metal tone you will hear in the year 2050. 2- am buying it next month , leaving in Europe is awesome Thomann is next door

[@patrickarinelli6250]

I love th 30 but....dark terror got a bit more highs frequencies for the chords in general.... but nothing that putting a New old stock tube or an EQ that is simpler for most people would do the trick.

[@franckydookie]

Th30 is better on clean, but damn that dark terror sounds fantastic

[@MetalManiacMan1313]

I prefer the addtional headroom and the extra preamp tube in the TH30.

[@LordLucidious]

I thought it was an extra preamp tube too but it’s actually just a dedicated tube for the clean channels 1+2 gainstage. I wish it used all 3 on the dirty channel 6 gainstages would be crazy 😜

[@Gummmibaer]

Dude you play like a Robot, so flawless! Wish I could play this steady when embarrsing myself in the studio. Do you have a built in metronome in your hands?

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Haha thanks mate, I practice the riff over and over with a click then record the raw DI into a TC Electronic Looper Pedal. I can then play the looper back into each amp and they'll be in time with each other 👍

[@Gummmibaer]

@@TobysGuitarGearDemos nice job! And probably the best way to get a useful comparison. Keep it up!

[@metalore]

Does the TH30 work well with pedals? I heard the Dark Terror doesn't, though I'm not sure why.

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

They are similar the DT and the TH30. I think they both work well with pedals but it often depends on what you are putting through it. I’ve heard people say Vox’s don’t take pedals well but loads of famous guitarists run giant pedalboards into vox’s👍

[@robhowe8353]

Dark Terror for the win!!!

[@neoaureus]

hi Toby....I wonder is the frequency curve in the Mid scoop? Have you studied it?

[@HarvesterOfMisery]

I like the sound of both but TH30 sounds just a bit better overall

[@porlyworlyfantastic]

i have the th30 and after watching this I like the terror more.. sounds like a pinker" tone, better transformer to me. sweeter top end and better curve on the shape knob from 9-12 oclock.. Hmmm..

[@TheJak615]

Radiohead!

[@groverjuicy]

I'm gonna come stay with you and live in a house made of amps and cabs... bliss.

[@infest409]

TH30 sounds better to my ears, especially with the overdrive.

[@1thess523]

Not a huge difference, i think thr Terror had a little fizz on the top but nothing crazy at all. This might be on my list of its cheaper than an OR 15

[@luissmoge]

Great video as always!!! I'm waiting for the dark terror vs tiny terror

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Thanks mate, bigggg comparison coming soon 👍

[@bergglobus2428]

Had the chance to buy the Th30C (it was for sale) and the Or15H, but for my usage the Th30 is way to loud. The Or15H is great and you can get a solid volume out of it

[@neoaureus]

I just bought the Orange Two Stroke ...semi parametric frequency tone shaper ....to modify the Drive channel since it does not have bass and treble....

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

With the Two Stroke you'll be able to sculpt the sound massively 👍

[@neoaureus]

It just arrived after I posted the comment.... It's turned into a monster with the pedal...you are absolutely right! Superb pedal...the reviews don't do justice to it. Best part is that it turns the 30 watt ( OK run on 7 watt mode ) into a midnight bedroom amp. Thanks to the boost.

[@andrep0wly35]

Any chance for a review from the new Marshall studio jcm800 sv20h? :)

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

I am hopeful it will happen in a couple months, looks an awesome amp 👍

[@TheSWCantina]

Can't make my mind up. aaaaaaaaaahhhhh

[@Kapiwolf123]

whats the song name. cause i cant remember for anything the title but i love that song

[@heavymettl]

The middle

[@Ale-xf8sm]

Th 30 for alice in chains stuff?

[@haydenlince7420]

I'd say so they are great amps I'm getting one soon for that style

[@skilak13]

Have you tried to rund DT pre-amp through the TH30 power amp using the FX loop?

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Naa but I think the TH30s power section has slightly more balls in the mid-range, so would add that 👍

[@skilak13]

@@TobysGuitarGearDemos thank you very much, and it would be fantastic if you could make a video showing this idea and so converting TH30 or BH/R15 into 3 way channel beast ;)

[@jimjim7008]

Distortion TH30 wins by far

[@righteous_entertainment8539]

Dark terror still has it even slipknot has used it it just a little affordable blade of metal destruction.

[@andrep0wly35]

Dark terror vs Jim root! :)

[@marcellpetrik3952]

Could you tell me the title of the first song. Thx.

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

The Middle - Jimmy Eat World 👍

[@marcellpetrik3952]

@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank you

[@damianwoodlion2485]

Hi there! Can someone make it clear to me about TH 30 hull's colour (Black colour compare with original orange one) Does it have any difference with sound or functionality , or..... It just a design variation and they are the same inside???

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Identical apart from colour 👍

[@damianwoodlion2485]

@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank you !!!!!!

[@stryprks]

Jimmy Eat World!

[@73prd]

Why does the dark terror sound louder and clearer

[@suqies]

TH souonds tighter

[@massimozirilli3282]

Which do you prefer TH30 vs Thunderverb 50? 😜

[@user-oc1ru6ih7i]

I want to know the name of the song！pleas🙏！

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Which one mate?

[@user-oc1ru6ih7i]

Toby's Guitar Gear 2:36！

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Jigsaw Falling into Place - Radiohead 👍

[@user-oc1ru6ih7i]

Toby's Guitar Gear thank you so much！

[@thomasrondeau2286]

It just takes some time..

[@philippeverneris8956]

Anybody talks about the price difference? 190 euros for the micro dark (1 kg) vs 970 euros for the TH30 (15 kg)... 15 W vs 30 W, however but the sound seems pretty similar to me!

[@thejoanz]

philippe verneris that’s not a micro dark. It’s a dark terror. Micro dark is a 20 watt hybrid.

[@MrAdamKaskus]

th30.

[@stevenaustin4591]

I like both but the TH30 Kills it!! Miles better than the dark terror (IMO) :)

[@TinkerToneworks]

they're the same damn amp.

[@user-xb6hi2pn9u]

for distorted guitar, I think, dark terror>th30

[@Johnny--gd2fq]

What pickups are u using in your guitar?

[@TobysGuitarGearDemos]

Stock pickups in all guitars. The Gold LP has the 490T. The Harley Bentons all have Wilkinson pickups 👍

[@redw1n517]

ENVELOP IDEAS

[@edusiedhi3230]

I like when I see the player instead a static amp picture, just saying!

[@DanielDavis730]

Do ya self a hudge favour and try one out in the shop these people on KZbin. Use great recordings to make it sound what it is not