Ordering the New BMW M2 G87 with TRL - Options etc | 4k

[@JoeAchilles1]

Apologies - This video lacked sound when I uploaded it yesterday, hopefully all good today! Thanks for the feedback and support as always, have a great weekend! Joe ❤️

[@NickG24]

The moment you realise Joe Achilles was responsible for ensuring a manual M2 came to the U.K. 🙇‍♂️👏🏻 legend!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Haha I would love to think that was the case, unfortunately doubt it 😂 Genuine and good memory though 👌

[@NickG24]

@@JoeAchilles1 fantastic stuff, you know, stranger things have happened, could have played a crucial part!

[@phcollins101]

It’s because luckily 300-500 people bought them luckily still.

[@beecee6850]

You buerk

[@chrisdoersen]

Well done! Even a small amount of extra influence could have tipped the decision in your favor. For what it’s worth, here in the States we have a no-cost option for the manual… and the configurator automatically checks it when you start your build. 😈

[@BillyPerry]

Love these ordering videos with Tony

[@JoeAchilles1]

Cheers legend, hope you're well bro 👊❤️

[@paulelliott3056]

Joe Achilles, hero of 3 pedal drivers everywhere! 👍😊

[@JoeAchilles1]

😉👊

[@TheHoosiers2008]

I love how your sales rep is real. Doesn't hold back and tow the company line. Makes me want to buy from him (albeit I'm in Miami).

[@steve45678]

A very,enjoyable half hour, well done lads.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

[@mauricetoussaint7283]

Having seen one of these in the flesh, no thanks. The previous car actually looks like the most up to date model!

[@ianm4316]

Hats off to you guys for making a video about a car with very limited options into a video this length. It doesn't say much about BMW for asking so much £ for a car that is so limited on what a person can personalise on their car. People do buy a car on looks not just speed, it will be intersting so how much this design impacts sales on the M2 i actually thought it looked better in Joes first drive when it was multi colored, atleast it looked like it had personality😉

[@wlopezmendez]

That blue looks a lot like the Hyundai N color. I'll take a black one with a Manual and a Sunroof.

[@martincassels7995]

I’ve just spent a very productive 1.5 hours speccing my new M2 and M3 touring while waiting his videos. I’m now working on how to pay for them 😅

[@Jb001jb]

Imola red would have been a no brainer… i like the grey and black. Two tone wheels every time. I hope the screens don’t scratch like the cluster in the F87.

[@jamie3731]

Lego could actually make a close scale version of this

[@lepetilac]

I’m really proud this posh and such an amazing car is manufactured in México.

[@angeloamato_]

I agree everything is getting more expensive due to supply and demand. But if people just let BMW/other brands sit on their cars and stopped buying for 6-9 months the offers would return very quickly and prices would drop considerably.

[@simeonivanov3507]

The first beautiful BMW in 15 years .

[@davidbillberg2203]

Living the dream Joe! Just imagine going into a dealer ordering 2 new BMWs! Thats crazy. Nice spec as well!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks buddy, I haven't ordered one though 😉

[@davidbillberg2203]

@@JoeAchilles1 Oh, ok! Maybe one day 😉

[@lollypop9580]

New M2 looks good from the side and inside but God... Front and rear. 😱

[@andrewhurstcars]

You got your long-termer Joe!

[@POVGOD]

Hi joe great video! I love that your spec you would choose on the g87 is pretty much identical to my f87 m2 comp 😂

[@POVGOD]

edit, except the manual part, i couldn't find a manual black m2 comp at the time i bought mine

[@niftyvidy]

All paint has to work on plastic as well? Seriously, you’re telling me they couldn’t run certain colours because of plastics? It’s not 1977, we know they can make paint work on plastic. This guy is stunned.

[@breezeracing8015]

Yay. Sound is working today 😀

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yay! Thanks for letting me know 😊

[@sirmanni4534]

I love the interior but I like the front end of the 240i more

[@biddyboy1570]

I think it would look great with a comedy 1980s DIY body kit. Oh wait.....

[@davidjfawkes]

Super useful. I have one of these on pre-order in California, but have yet to make my final selections, this helped a ton! Thanks!

[@lloyd.8272]

I remember when the first m2 came out I was straight to my local dealer to put a order in. (Alpine white manual) I’ve had that 6 years now and been waiting patiently for the new G87. New one just ain’t doing it for me, maybe the lci or competition that comes in a few years will.

[@mattpoole9498]

New one looks horrid, just like all the new BMW S , they just all look ugly now. and thats coming from a BMW fanboy lol.

[@lbarbato6425]

Hey Joe, am interested in the latest car, currently have a dct comp. However, due to the weight of the new car am thinking that it won’t be any much better performance wise than the comp, you have driven the prototype so your view on this would be appreciated. Like the looks of the new car though.

[@ApexCypher_]

If you’ve got £70k to spend take a look at the Porsche website.

[@lbarbato6425]

@@ApexCypher_ have, am in Australia so closest porche is a cayman 2 litre which is $3,000 more and don’t think it will be as hardcore fun as the M2 certainly a 911s 2014 model wasn’t. Love a current 911s but see how the stock markets go in the future lol. In Australia a used 911s 2014 sells for up to $200,000 !! Currently.

[@joshuawi99]

Keep Your Comp, it´s timeless

[@Viddough]

You started the channel with an M2❤

[@symons666]

Thank god they got the manual bit right !! Probably the only thing they got right on this model !

[@MarshallHurtado]

Shoutout to Tony!

[@icanmanifest]

Been waiting for this for a while. I knew this was coming.

[@dylanthedegen]

Joe, thoughts on upgrading from a G42 M240i to a G87?

[@mike63ful]

I’m wondering the same thing .

[@mkm6073]

Also changed my order already from the sport seats to buckets in Germany. They just have to be in there..esp. as Recaro is not able to deliver Podiums currently.

[@number1Schumacherfan]

The rear taillights are horrible and I can’t imagine they will ever look better…. They need to fill more of the rear section and be pushed to the corners.

[@andrewsmith7636]

No no no not max, i used to race karts when Lewis was 8 years old, he was in junior cadets and i was in senior TKM, i used to help his dad and watch Lewis, even at 8 years old he was amazing, and he never over spent to win 😜, my bmw track day was amazing thank you listers bmw boston, as a track day car m2 all day but as a everyday car my 340i tourer and maybe one day M3 tourer, still down in Cornwall where Tony went in the summer our second home, just to let you know had a 335d tourer last year and changed for my new 340i tourer, car loaded the same with 4 adults in to come to our second home my 340i tourer did more miles to gallon done here, but not running around here, so in my eyes petrol is the way to go 😊

[@noodlemcdoodle4385]

Gutted about the race track pack tbh. I could maybe stretch to the 6.4k but knowing half of that is for stuff I dont want completely turns me off. Especially as you’d have to through the faff of taking off cup 2s, selling them, and buying/installing PS4S. Just a shame really.

[@bloodyvega9087]

Why can’t you get a sunroof with the increased top speed

[@asc.445]

I'm currently in the process of getting 1, but in Thailand. Its £155,000. But I feel worth it.

[@Jackbyrne77]

“Give it time”. Yeah. Give it a loooooonnnggg time!!

[@michaelyounes29]

Looks muscular. The front end reminds me of a Dodge Nitro and the rear lights are just a bit of a mess.

[@kentao4]

Definitely thought they were the 825 wheels. This car is tempting!

[@bobdidit55]

I get what he's saying about the prices are going up. But people that would normally buy an M2 wages are not going up, just look at the news on tv. New car sales have slumped and its not just because they are taking longer to make, it's because people in the uk can't afford the mad price car companies are charging.

[@scottfromengland2303]

Maybe its just me but the new *M2* or *M240* doesnt look as nice 🤔 and HOW DARE YOU liking max over Lewis ??????

[@nicholascenci8808]

That story is badass

[@JoeAchilles1]

Was a surreal experience 👌

[@brianiswrong]

Shame they didn't add the burnt orange to the colours.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Agreed, wish the sunset orange lived on....

[@dantan6952]

Zandvoort Blue manual for me, please.

[@mattski3418]

Big fan of your channel Joe, but as a fellow F87 M2 owner I can honestly say that car looks hideous. I would rather pick up a 2yr old M5 for the same money

[@terrytibbs6687]

Sure it will be excellent to drive and be able to remap for silly performance, however looks like something Lego designed then built in a hurry in a Chinese sweatshop.

[@pplace993]

Wow I just bulit the same M2 but with regular seats and red calipers!

[@trayanbistrian5341]

I ❤ The Blue colour

[@KevBoy3D]

One of the benefits of buying a car new is being able to configure it how you want, there is almost no configurability at all here

[@SpontaneousEvolution]

Not a fan of the new look M2. BMW don't seem to be able to do style anymore. Incredible cars, they just need to hire a design team.

[@symons666]

It would be nice to think that manual would an option on every car, it would still be worth the extra !

[@markglover1718]

I ran a configuration earlier in the week and the quoted 9.9% APR for a PCP makes it more expensive than an M4 with BMW and dealer contributions. Nice car but a tough sell at those rates.

[@MrSchn3ll]

If you can't afford to pay cash, don't buy it.

[@markglover1718]

@@MrSchn3ll I can afford it, but it doesn't alter the fact that most buyers will require finance and the monthlies on this car are very high partly due to the APR of 9.9% compared to a discounted M4 with an APR of 4.9%.

[@mauricetoussaint7283]

@@MrSchn3ll Why would you ever pay cash for a car? It's a depreciating asset!

[@mauricetoussaint7283]

The Audi RS4 I ordered in December 2021 arrives in a few weeks. The Audi PCP rate I got when I ordered it, 2.9%. If I ordered the same car now, the rate has trebled and the cost of the car has gone up 6%. I wonder how many people are backing off ordering new cars, given how much more it costs and the squeeze on incomes from rising energy costs.

[@MrTimBulmer]

Shame that Blue is a flat colour - Brooklyn metallic it is! 😊 Nuts you can spec the M drivers pack but not the carbon seats individually.. 🥴

[@NickG24]

Another interesting video guys. 👍🏻 The seat thing does seem to be a bit of a stitch up, should surely be able to order separately from the other stuff! Especially the cup 2 tyres, that’s crackers and almost useless for 9 + months of year on British roads! Also, if the manual only makes up 3 or 4 % of sales, the additional development costs for the manual could easily have been amortised over the 97% of autos, making little difference to the price but giving the consumer a no cost option and being non the wiser, with perceived better value for money!

[@garyoosullivan5606]

No sunroof option?

[@edombre4637]

you do get a sunroof option in Canada, but not with he carbon roof

[@Chris-yg3nj]

Audio works! 😄

[@JoeAchilles1]

Excellent thank you!

[@fcman123]

Man I wish the track pack was that price in the US (~7600 usd). It's $9.9k here and I dont even want anything other than the seats because of the merino leather. If I could just get the standard seats with merino leather for a couple thousand it would be perfect. Dont care about all the carbon and dont want the crazy bucket seats :(

[@ttran626]

What’s the strategy on ordering one? Every dealer has 3-5 people ahead of me and I’m trying to find the best dealer. I’m in Houston

[@ApexCypher_]

£71k for the Halfords Edition 😮

[@biddyboy1570]

Init

[@kingmonkey88]

71k for a BMW that will have reliability issues and poor customer service...

[@Krasshirsch]

I am happy for you Joe, I wanted this version of the M2 to be amazing so I could switch my current one. Unfortunately, I am so disappointed with the design that I will not. Tried to talk me into liking it, but it is in my hunble opinion the worst looking BMW ever made and I am not sure I would drive one if BMW would cut my lease on my current one and pay me to do so.

[@steffydog]

Cheers guys.

[@441stainesphil5]

Great viewing

[@johnlu9368]

hey man,u didnt reply me,did u get huge discount for that since u keep changing bmw

[@26Tackle.reviews]

what have BMW done with that M Performance kit though! Its Honda ish lol

[@randomhobbyist99]

Hey Joe do you think it’s worth trading in a G80 Comp xdrive to a M2 manual? As far as fun over power goes?

[@MeKo]

We can finally spec it here in the states. 10k just to get the CF seats because comes in a pack.

[@rodgazinya]

9900 for Seats, Wheels, Carbon roof, carbon trim, M Drivers package etc. Seats will be a 4-4500 option individually once available. However adding the Carbon package bumps start of production until mid March of 2023 (nearly 5 months extra). I went with non carbon seats and will swap in my Recaro Sportster CS's if the non carbons don't impress me.

[@davidbentley4731]

How good would the M2 be with a shooting brake rear

[@MotechPerformance]

So tempted to get one in black 😮

[@ftr911drvr]

It will definitely not be worth the premium lol is this what sales people are telling buyers?? Very few cars appreciate, even the cars people are paying markup for their resale is based on MSRP a dealer is going to get you coming and going mark up to buy and base the trade in on the blue book value. The whole dealer model is a scam honestly

[@AUTOIDTV]

I think we’re gonna have to go and visit uncle Tony to spec ours 😅

[@realmusicreallife]

I thought you couldn't get individual colours on anything below the 3 series? Or has that now changed?

[@JoeAchilles1]

Strangely the 1 and 2 series GC are available in individual colours now.

[@zacboi94]

Might order a black M2 and Camo wrap it…. So other don’t have to see it 😊

[@JIMMYHIBBS1]

Berry Croydon ….. sounds like a great idea 🤣

[@Stimm002]

I got a great video idea! It's called "Joe Achilles gives me his car for 3 months." I think it will be a brilliant bit of content. Probably the best ever made.

[@sandweiler4640]

BMW was considering building the new M2 in Russia, but finally went for Mexico as the Russian’s prototypes were losing their turrets upon impact.

[@TRD1949uk]

The most important part of this video discovering you both think max is better than Lewis. Good choices gents

[@JoeAchilles1]

😂👌🏁

[@NickG24]

Better this season but better in general remain to be seen - long way to go!

[@stevenfoleyuk9404]

Well they have designed a ugly M2 added £20k and expect us to be happy ? Only two Colour choices , Black or White . 😢

[@BaconSandwich72]

Good job guys, especially given the lack of options. I get that the whole individual colour thing is not on the junior M-car, but 5 colours?…three being white, black and grey?!. Come on BMW, do better. Being built in Mexico (a hyper modern plant) is not a good enough reason.

[@LittyJonez]

I used to own a 2018 F87 and this new M2 looks like 🗑️ ….. they got the power right and the look like 🚮.

[@TOMAHAWK813]

You gotta work on your audio. My computer is all the way up and I can barely hear this.

[@JoeAchilles1]

You gotta work on buying some new speakers, there is nothing wrong with the output level of this audio.

[@TOMAHAWK813]

@@JoeAchilles1 Not a chance. Any other KZbin video I watch its loud and clear. Yours is turned down a lot. Im on a MacBook.

[@stephenmills7246]

@@JoeAchilles1 why so rude to your subscribers? Just read another comment of yours that you did have to amend the audio 🧐

[@TimChump]

I’d much rather have an F87 M2 CS than the new M2 for that price.

[@y.israel922]

My favourite 😍 car 🚗 😍 BMW v12 🇬🇧🤙

[@mattpoole9498]

old shape looks much nicer in my opinion. least its not as ugly as the new m3 and m4.

[@Jashue]

It’s a shame venta black isn’t a color option. Whatever it takes to hide those awkward lines! WTF, BMW???

[@davidcameron8163]

Why ?

[@ftr911drvr]

It looks better than the last one, the last one looked more like an economy car with a wide body kit.

[@SerenaBluee]

In my opinion it looks absolutely hideous but if we all liked the same thing it would be a boring world.

[@timothyknight7881]

I also have to disagree. It looks to much like Pontiac at the front. And the rear end, 4 pipes yes. Looks, not in my opinion. I don’t care for the looks of the new car at all. I wish I had kept my M2C. That was my 8th BMW and my 4th M car. I think I am done with BMW. That said, it you like it, all good 👍🏻. Everyone is absolutely entitled to like and get what they want.

[@stefanomarcellino6701]

11:38 he said “R” instead of “M” 😮

[@bungle5785]

Nice, but M4 prices are plummeting…

[@JoeAchilles1]

£65k for an 18 month old £76k M4 that's done 10k miles is normal depreciation, that's far less than the F82 would have suffered back in 2015/2016.

[@primepremium5504]

Ahhh yes, a premium luxury Mexican car.

[@george29scotland]

Hobson's choice- just looked it up. Can't be the only one.

[@Zeeturbo]

Looks a bit Evo 6 ish in white 🤍

[@DeepPost49]

Two guys justifying the insane costs of these cars. Good value lol. More like ripping consumers off.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Hope your Friday gets better 😂

[@jamviator]

I can't get over how stupid it looks. Some of the other cars are ugly or at least have ugly elements, this car doesn't just look "ugly" it looks "stupid". And that's way worse. The grille surrounds look like a piece of trim is missing like it got torn off and the driver hasn't replaced it yet. Overall it's just a stupid looking car. These people are sabotaging the brand. The engineers are still doing amazing work but whoever is pushing this new exterior design approach needs to be fired.

[@mattyoz0]

And what do you drive?

[@jamviator]

@@mattyoz0 Whatever I drive doesn't change anything I just said.

[@mattyoz0]

@@jamviator I find people with fuck all money are the most opinionated...

[@benpenagonzales6014]

£45,000 5 years ago for an M2 with inflation of 3%, 3%, 6%, 10%, 12% (yes UK RPI was 12% recently) = £62,345 that's just the way it is

[@JoeAchilles1]

4 years ago the M2 comp DCT was £51,500, the G87 M2 is £61,500. The new car comes with a carbon roof, M adaptive suspension, HK sound, HUD, and heated seats as standard.

[@benpenagonzales6014]

@@JoeAchilles1 thanks. Didn't know exact values and we all experience inflation differently in our lives, but, as a rough example you can see how the world has changed!

[@k4o5sfc]

Back in the day??? Last century is better fitting lol😅

[@MrBruster78]

So ugly, not sure I have ever said that about a bmw. I still look back at my mlite

[@user-ux6tk8pi9i]

The M stands for Mexico.

[@guillermomeza8373]

💨

[@NickG24]

No, blue callipers = mlite these days!!😂