Oregon Delays Motorhome "Ban," RV Values Sink, RV Explodes Due To Propane Leak, and More

[@lelandmcginn1755]

That was my semi truck next to the rv that exploded and i pray for her recovery

[@michael-------7058]

Speaking of Battery trucks - here in the Kansas City area we got our first dose of Winter weather over the weekend. I haven't seen any of the Amazon EV vehicles on the road for three days now. I have seen Amazon drivers in rental vans though.

[@rik8809]

I believe the rentals are for the increased holiday demand. My Tesla Model Y is definitely less efficient in cold weather. Then again, so is my 1 ton Duramax.

[@nevastrong2850]

😂

[@Franknank]

Well, well, there's a surprise the market is soft for $80,000 pick ups.

[@charcoalgriller]

Propane leak detectors are only good for five years, folks. It’s two wires. Check it. Replace it if needed.

[@dangeroustoman]

How is paying for credits helping anything. Just another money scam.

[@TheBandit7613]

I'm going to start selling carbon credits on eBay !

[@anthonypelchat]

It is there so that if YOU cannot build what is needed, then you can pay for someone who does. Basically those who produce more than the required amount can sell to those that produce less than the required amount. That allows it to average out between all manufacturers without causing some to not be able to sell vehicles at all. Otherwise there would only be a handful of manufacturers allowed to sell there.

[@kenmcclow8963]

Carbon credits are part carrot and part stick. If you produce more than 11% percent of your fleet as zero emissions, like Tesla with the Cybertruck and Semi, you accumulate credits which other manufacturers can buy at auction. The auction sets the price. For years Tesla made money selling credits primarily to Stellantis (Jeep, RAM) who chose not to build electric vehicles. Now the requirements are starting to affect commercial vehicles, where passenger vehicles have been in this market for over ten years and the public wasn’t aware of it for the most part

[@MUUKOW3]

​@@anthonypelchatIt's a scam plain and simple. If you want to produce EV do it on your own dime don't have the government steal from a company that produces a product the public wants to prop up one they don't.

[@HomebuiltHELP]

Jason - Thank you for the tip on KZbin sharing only selected segments - that is so useful as I can now target my 'shares' with specific topics to specific friends. I think you were the one to introduce me to KZbin "chapters" on your video which allow me to skip over parts that I dont need to watch (for example -I already own a mattress!) Your segment on climate forecast means that I now know where to head for warm, dry weather this winter! I am among those that look forward each week to your videos for a better understanding of the RV life.

[@RVMiles]

Thanks so much! So glad to help out!

[@sherriweber7105]

Thank you Jason for the information and news of Oregons ban on diesel fuel that it was delayed. Sorry to hear about a propane explosion with an RV. Hope the woman survives and heals. Thank you again Jason for all you do. See you soon.

[@KRich408]

When i worked in Oregon iwas towing for local and state police, i never saw so many RV fires before? Was it because so many are forced to live in a RV because of the cost of living? Or because the state wouldn't let some people get a Oregon driver's license? Yes its hand to get a DL in Oregon because the DMV says its 911 rules they require things some people can't get. I was making good money working in directly for the police but living kn a motel until i had saved enough to rent, k was required to get a Oregon DL after 30 days to continue working with that contract. Bur the DMV would not give me a DL , so i was fired!!! I had ot move to Washington i got my DL in WA tge Day i got there and found a Job a few days later. The point of this is Oregon ks probably at fault for all the RVs its not a friendly state for new people!! Its discrimination but they get away with it. This happened in Eugene. So not to day they only target lower income people i saw a DR in Astoria on my way to Washington she said she was having the same problem with the DMV so she went across the bridge oty Washington for her DL

[@oscar33212]

Oh don’t fret, if you are illegal it is easy to get a drivers license 😊

[@MUUKOW3]

I live in Oregon,they will give a license to a chimpanzee,hell the give them to illegals. Plus we have one of the highest per capita homeless populations because they roll out the red carpet for them to come so yes there are tons of roached out crack house RV's on fire here.

[@Coolguyjason]

Thanks for the videos! FYI Josh the RV nerd gave you a shout out in his monthly update on the CARB ruling.

[@contactmiller]

Most large RVs have about 60k miles after 25 years. So, yes, they get terrible gas mileage but they don't get driven that often. Also, used RV depreciate to zero, and then you have to pay someone to haul it away. So, buy a used RV for cheap.

[@don_sharon]

Retail finance rates are not directly associated with Fed Rate - Fed Rate is the rate banks charge each other. Other factors like retail loan demand and repayment risk affect loans more than the Fed. When the demand for retail loans and borrower's repayment risk decline, look for the rate to lower. With so many people leveraged to the max (auto loans, credit cards, home loan, HELOCs, etc) and the cumulative inflation rate still over 20%, don't look for rates to drop significantly any time soon.

[@nancyfuller4901]

Biggest mistake RAM made was getting rid of the V8 5.7L HEMI.

[@Hugo-Hernandez]

Great video and thank yall for the RV news.

[@RVMiles]

Appreciate that, thanks for watching!

[@airstreamer]

It will be interesting to see how things go in the next few years as far as regulations. It is amazing that the couple did not die. Wow. How did they survive that? Pretty incredible! - Jim & Michelle

[@Michael-vi1kn]

Another informative news video. Thank You

[@danandfaith]

RAM is coming out with EV trucks and vans, which will provide sufficient offsets for class B vans based on ProMaster. Mercedes already does have a substantial EV fleet of Sprinters.

[@rd4660]

Stilantis is not going to survive long enough.

[@kenmcclow8963]

@@rd4660I think the company will be fine after they do some restructuring. All their European brands have EV’s and ICE across the range of sizes and prices, but some of the US brands need to consolidate like Chrysler that sell one vehicle. RAM has three, but two are just rebadged Fiats. They could get rid of half of their name brands and get rid of a lot of office space and still sell the same vehicles. They bought Opel/Vauxhall from GM. I think all Vauxhall vehicles are rebadged Opels. Jeep’s small vehicles are Fiats and so on. Nissan is the one in real trouble. They are out of cash and will probably be owned by someone else soon

[@TheFreewheelinNomad]

I love this channel for its incredible content and engaging features! 🌟🎥 It’s a fantastic source of entertainment and knowledge that keeps me coming back for more. The creativity and passion in each video make every moment enjoyable. 🙌💡 I truly appreciate the community it has built and how it inspires us to explore new ideas. 🌍✨

[@schmonsequences]

Stellantis is a stupid name for a car company

[@stevemclaughlin9436]

So how many children are needed to mine all the rare earth materials for these zero emissions vehicles are noble government is requiring? It has to be in countries where no one notices. People think they are doing such good in the world but never bother to investigate what’s really happening!

[@kokeshidolls5631]

The long end of the yield curve is sticky to move.

[@timf6916]

Nice, Good information

[@LonerCycle]

Newmar (and others) just simply need to produce small line (= 10%) of travel trailers/5th wheels. Not sure about your's, but my travel trailer is a zero emission vehicle.

[@Erin-Thor]

Yes, and wouldn’t adding batteries and an electric drive motor to the wheels make that a hybrid ELECTRIC vehicle? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@kevinlass2747]

I don’t think that will work. It’s about the engines and weight.

[@RonnieStanley-tc6vi]

​@@Erin-Thor. No actually. It won't. There isn't a single trailer on the road today that has drive wheels. None. Do you know why that is?? Because pushing a vehicle forward with a hitch between them is a wreck waiting to happen.😂😂😂😂. Trailers are for pulling.......unless you've figured something out that no one else has.

[@Erin-Thor]

@ - Ronnie, you know they aren’t banning trailers in those 5 states, right? It’s the diesel chassis’s from trucking companies like Freightliner, international, PeterBuilt, Kenworth, Volvo, etc., that are used for diesel Class A motorhomes, coaches (bus’s are affected too) and Super-C motor-coaches that are having their sales banned. And… there actually is a new line of Electric ⚡️ RV Trailers, videos are on KZbin, that are intended for use by electric vehicles like the Rivian truck. In addition to their drive wheels lessening the load, the trailer can charge the car if needed. 🤓 Edit: Look for “Pebble Flow RV Trailer,” they are not for me, but also very interesting!

[@johnpurdum8126]

This whole mess pertains to truck chassis manufacturers. RVs without truck chassis aren't qualified.

[@rmccabe117]

Okay, I would like to challenge a few RV Miles fans to donate a couple $ to help fellow RV peeps! We hit them with $50, what can the rest of us do to help? Thanks so much!!!

[@craigbrowning9448]

There are Military EVs at least on the Drawing Board.

[@DannyFyffe]

It was not a shock when Tavares resigned. The board pushed him out as he is the problem that plagues Stellantis. Many people have been calling for him to be fired months so again, no shock to anyone who has followed any bit of the Stellantis nonsense.

[@1982MCI]

And I’m sure he took his huge bonus and remaining contract salary with him also! He really should have taken the buyout deal when he had the opportunity, now everything is in the fricn landfill!!

[@DannyFyffe]

@@1982MCI You are looking at it wrong. It would all be in the landfill if they allowed him to stay. He destroyed this company in just a couple of years. My 5 year old granddaughter could run this company better. All they have to do is cut prices by 50-75% depending on the piece of junk they sell and then start building better, more cost effective vehicles. Then sue Tavares for malfeasance and take every penny they ever paid that incompetent guy.

[@davidpatrick1813]

tnx interesting

[@chiplarkin4069]

Where can I read more about CARB laws?

[@LuckyDr.SmogShop]

www.arb.ca.gov

[@MUUKOW3]

On the toilet.

[@Rick-x8h]

Interest rates aren’t moving from the banks in my area which is just south of Chicago. Even with a fed rate cut I don’t see it happening. Rv’s will be bought for 2025 but I think it’s not gonna be a stellar year for the industry nor the country in general. But hey!! Let’s just sit back and watch.!

[@amftpt]

Good

[@mostlyinterested1016]

Looking at the bigger picture, once the diesel RV ban really starts biting, there's going to be an across-the-board lack of demand for RV offerings. The campgrounds are going to start feeling lack of demand and RV owners are going to have to be educated to the realization that EV car owners are experiencing; i.e. the added purchase, insurance, service and repairs costs as well as the reduced transit distances (range not as expected compared to a diesel pusher). I'd also surmise that there's probably an enormous conundrum that will revolve around charging. I'd imagine there's probably a belief that you'd be able to recharge your RV at the end of your leg/trip but, from everything I've learned about Li-ion batteries, that's when the "cooking" happens. So, as you're recharging, I'd expect most RVers would anticipate they'd simply go into their RV to eat, watch TV, check their e-mail or even sleep and I really don't think that's safe. Let's be honest, the whole thing about an RV is that it's your "home on wheels" but I'd suggest that, in the case of an RV, that's not feasible as, if you're charging, where do you go while it's charging? Yet another "theory" that I'd suggest is hardly thought-through.

[@HoustonRoad]

What……….

[@weebeevillaging587]

Yep sounds like you totally didn’t think it through. Running on at the sentence level, doesn’t help your case. Unless you’re the industry expert your opinions are just yours.

[@mostlyinterested1016]

@@weebeevillaging587 Oh, so I am actually allowed to have my own opinion. Thank you, your royal highness.

[@SaltyDog69]

Zero emissions is a dream right now. How do they think the parts and supplies are made for electric vehicles?

[@rvfishing8817]

There are more than enough credits to go around at this point, so not a dream. When solid state batteries start reaching production and commoditization there will be 700 mile ranges for EVs with 15 minute charge times. Not a fantasy both Honda and Toyota plan on introducing solid state by the '27 model year. EVs actually need far less parts and maintenance, that is why delivery fleets in the cities are already adopting them, lower cost of ownership. See Jason's pic of the Amazon truck.

[@SaltyDog69]

@@rvfishing8817 Then what do we do with the batteries after 7-8 years, plus the cost of the new battery pack is $20k or more? This makes it close to the same ownership cost as ICE vehicles. I’d love to go ev but the range and cost prohibitions are to high now.

[@anthonypelchat]

Batteries last longer than 7-8 years. That is just the bare minimum for the warranty. Many EVs have 10-12 year warranties on the batteries. And there is little reason to think the batteries cannot last longer. Range is also not a real issue for most EVs. 200-300 miles of range every single morning when you wake up. No need to stop for daily driving. Long range towing is an issue still, but getting better. 200 mile long range while towing 10,000lbs is possible today. Cost isn't an issue if you are planning a new car or cuv. The prices are right in line with all new vehicles. The used EV market is still high compared to ICE, but it is coming down. EV trucks are expensive still. New ICE trucks aren't exactly cheap though.

[@rvfishing8817]

@@SaltyDog69 Maybe we recycle them like anything else?

[@SaltyDog69]

@ Range is an issue when towing. Who wants to stop and charge for two hours every 150-200 miles.

[@kevinbarry71]

Smoking is dangerous

[@butchthurman4685]

Land of the free. Lol as long as you have a license a credit. We are a joke.

[@nia6849]

No such thing land of the free. It has never been and never will.

[@MUUKOW3]

​@@nia6849Ooh the sad commie speaks.

[@mwc6849]

Carbon credit markets create less competition, less consumer choices, and higher prices. And it will do absolutely nothing to impact the climate.

[@dalecarson1849]

Any news on the Chevy and International diesel class C motorhomes like the Coachmen Entourage? If GM can sell enough of their electric pickups to not have to buy credits, I would think this would be a great chance for them to take some market share from Freightliner in CARB states.

[@RVMiles]

I do believe the Class Cs and Super Cs will end up being mostly fine.

[@rvfishing8817]

Don't look for interest rate cuts for much longer if at all. The dollar is spiking in the FX markets because the traders are expecting US inflation to jump next year, causing the Fed to tighten to try to control it if they can.

[@KJRitch]

RV industry needs to abandon the left coast.

[@jimaguirre5799]

Seriously, who is willing to spend 80 to 100k+ for a truck? That is absolutely insane. I'm sure there are suckers born every minute, but come on!

[@WinePunk]

That’s what 250’s and 350’s cost now

[@nia6849]

Only the insane madness people will purchase 80k and 100k f350. What do you think?

[@Erin-Thor]

I’m a noob, but they are working on electric trucks, some self driving, and they use several electric drive motors at multiple wheels. So… why not make them hybrid? Class A’s and Super C’s have extra space, you have a sweet diesel engine with strong alternators (I drove a refrigerated truck for decades) that should be able to charge the batteries easily. Then you have a hybrid, it’s an electric “assisted” vehicle and should give them longer range and more robust electrical capacity. Am I crazy?

[@charcoalgriller]

Apparently. I’ve been fussing about a super duty hybrid for YEARS to help with city driving. -crickets-

[@anthonypelchat]

Hybrid is not as good as it sounds on paper. But even still, it is absolutely a way that the manufacturers could have hit the needed targets.

[@Erin-Thor]

@@charcoalgriller - Yes, so far Toyota is the only one using hybrid tech to supplement their underpowered now smaller engines. 😢 Toyota did that for the same reasons as this ban, to meet electric vehicle requirements, but the batteries and motors used are the least they could get away with. The mileage improvements for the hefty costs are negligible.

[@Erin-Thor]

@@anthonypelchat - Volvo has been testing an all electric semi truck, I’m not sure what the status is or their range. I was just thinking you have a serious TRUCK capable of hauling what, 20 to 60 tons if HD, if they have the motors for that, create a hybrid and go. I get that electric vehicles are the future, but I’m not ready to take that leap as I tow things. I’d consider a decent hybrid in a heartbeat, especially as it might increase mileage and engine lifespan. (Less engine stress)

[@anthonypelchat]

@@Erin-Thor Tesla sales an all electric semi. Others do as well. And there are all electric buses being sold throughout the planet. Hybrids are sold as well by many manufacturers. Edison Motors is getting their PHEV Semi prepped and tested now as well. Towing with an EV is perfectly fine to do. The motors and batteries are more than capable of doing so. And you can just add additional cells to increase the range to be enough. That just adds costs and weight. But the weight is easily manageable and the costs could be as well, though some manufacturers charge far too much. Hybrids are valid and the motorhome manufacturers could have absolutely done that to reduce emissions. They refused to do so as well as refused to sell all electric versions. They didn't even need to sell that many. So the issue is completely on them.

[@faithsrvtrip8768]

An electric RV. Yeah, right.

[@digger105337]

Tesla sells a pickup and they have sold carbon credit, a lot of them 💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@anthonypelchat]

Rivian too. I was wondering what he was talking about there. I thought at first he meant that the credits had to be from a manufacturer that produces that class of truck. But Tesla even sells a class 8 semi. That should cover it. I would think at least.

[@KJRitch]

Carbon credits are a scam as is climate change pushed by governments

[@CeruleanSky1111]

Good riddance to Tavares. He ruined an iconic brand. I hope Stellantis gets it's act together and sells to Frank B. Rhodes Jr., the great-grandson of Chrysler’s founder who envisions establishing a new, American-owned Chrysler Corporation. At this point, he is Ram, Chrysler, Jeep's only hope.

[@7kidchaos]

Who makes an innerspring RV mattress? Don’t want foam.

[@standingmannequin7911]

Yes, I'll pass on the toxic fumes and cold sinking surface.

[@RVMiles]

RVMattress makes hybrid - they have both foam and springs in them.

[@RemyRAD]

I have to tell you...... I got totally mesmerized and distracted. By how well you grow, horizontal grass, behind you. That is a terrific wall of grass. And what were you saying? I didn't hear anything? I was amazed by the grass. And I thought... you can't hang anything on that wall anymore. How do you hang anything on grass? And what were you saying? I didn't hear anything? I was looking at the grass. On the wall. I don't own kind of turf wars you were trying to create here? I couldn't take my eyes and my mind off the grass. And how you can't hang anything on grass, behind you. You can hang a picture. You cannot hang an LCD monitor. You only have the field of grass behind you. Inside a room with windows. How is that possible I wondered? And what were you saying? I couldn't hear anything? The grass was just too loud and distracting. I otherwise love your channel and your show. But I think you need to cut the grass? This could get very difficult that arrangement. I don't know how you're going to do that? I was wondering how you would cut that grass? And what were you saying? I couldn't hear anything? This is all terribly distracting. It's Astroturf? Really? It looks so real. I was completely mesmerized by it. RVs? RemyRAD

[@spikestubbs210]

High prices...plus Chrysler and jeep products suck.

[@anthonypelchat]

Why are they not able to buy credits from Tesla and Rivian? They do produce trucks. Tesla even produces a class 8 semi.

[@RVMiles]

They can from tesla due to the semi, but there are very few sold to date, so they wouldn't have that many credits available. I'm fairly sure light trucks like Rivian don't count. I think it's medium-duty and up. Not 100% certain on that.

[@anthonypelchat]

@@RVMiles Then why can they buy from Ford? Both the Rivian R1T and the Cybertruck are more powerful than the Lightning.

[@anthonypelchat]

@@RVMiles And thank you for replying.

[@RVMiles]

I'm wrong. I thought both Rivian R1T and Cybertruck were class 2a, but they are considered class 2b, which is where the ACT ruling starts.

[@anthonypelchat]

@@RVMiles Nice. That should allow plenty of credits to be sold then.

[@MichaelJones-uw8gi]

Imagine the millions of tax dollars these idiot politicians are going to lose with these new laws. For each diesel pickup, depending on sales price, 3 to 5 grand gone. Class A diesel pushers going for 500k, lose about 12,000.00 dollars. That means increasing all taxes to cover their stupidity

[@jtkrpm1]

End CARB

[@timjacobs9860]

BYD makes electric vehicles and busses so there you are just build your dreams

[@MUUKOW3]

Without government subsidies and tax giveaway plans to sell them?

[@jam5158]

Not sure how Tesla and Rivian are not allowed to sell their credits since both produce EV trucks and Tesla even produces a big rig EV truck yet Ford is allowed? You sure you have this info right?

[@RVMiles]

I'm wrong. I thought both Rivian R1T and Cybertruck were class 2a, but they are considered class 2b, which is where the ACT ruling starts.

[@Eileen-e8f]

When are you going to understand nobody cares about your needs? You make things happen not wait for a hero to fix the problem. Thanks.

[@Nobody_important_at_all]

Vehicles sold is the most asine requirements of these laws. You can't force people to buy EV's the majority of the public does not want.

[@nevastrong2850]

Yugo’s for everyone!

[@anthonypelchat]

It's 10% or something low like that. This isn't about customers being forced to buy EVs. This is about manufacturers refusing to sell EVs.

[@Nobody_important_at_all]

@@anthonypelchat lol, after the initial wave of interest from a new model EV. They rot on dealer lots to the point they cant get rid of them. Hence the reason manufacturers have one shift productions or take weeks at a time pauses in making them. People aren't buying them. This isn't about manufacturers refusing to sell EV's. This is about the language of the bills forcing manufacturers to sell ever increasingly quantities of a vehicle people are not interested in buying and punishing those companies for a consumer disinterests.

[@anthonypelchat]

@@Nobody_important_at_all Think about this for a moment. As of right now, Tesla without any dealerships, outsells all other manufacturers combined in the US. The Cybertruck is the 3rd best selling EV in the US, outselling all other EV trucks combined and exceeding Tesla's sales goal for the year. And the best selling vehicle on the planet is an EV, the Model Y. Could it possibly be that the dealerships themselves are the issue and not that buyers don't want an EV? Or possibly manufacturers are not trying to sell EVs? Otherwise, it would that people just really, really like Tesla and no one else.

[@Nobody_important_at_all]

@@anthonypelchat Tesla is not the best selling vehicle on the planet. The year they were, they did the during a market shortage and the ending of subsidies in that year. As of right now, an ICE Toyota is the number 1 selling vehicle in the world. In the U.S. The top 3 selling vehicles are 2 ICE trucks and an ICE SUV. So, in its own market, tesla's not even top 3. So again. Its people not wanting EV's. Period.

[@tomedgar4375]

One lithium battery fire pollutes more than many thousands of miles from a diesel engine.

[@danoberste8146]

The EPA called chassis manufacturer's bluff. 🤣🤣🤣

[@TomDavisVideo]

they'll keep smoking too

[@symple_man79]

Smoking is dangerous to your health.

[@RemyRAD]

This Channel & Show is great. If you like to watch the grass grow. Behind his head. I take the time to watch grass grow. RemyRAD

[@racefoxxproductions8975]

The manufacturers need to tell C.A.R.B. to f it's self and any state that follows after the C.A.R.B. EV mandate because the EVs are more Hazzardous for the environment

[@Denis-tu1pd]

So if invest i electric cars witch takes 1500 to 2000 cars worth of pollution to build one battery and at the end of its life you have even more pollution to get rid of the battery and then mess up the air in another way and dont forget the pollution in the water from the battery manufactor .i will keep my diesel truck .no sale here .

[@rik8809]

I have both an EV and a diesel. In a sense, they’re tools and they both serve their purpose. I never liked doing short trips around town with my Duramax. The Tesla is great for that. What I don’t miss is spending over a $100 to fill up the tank on the truck. It’s been nice having lower prices on diesel. I suspect fuel prices will be going back up soon.

[@anthonypelchat]

EVs do not take 1500-2000 cars worth of pollution to build. Where in the world did you hear that bs? At absolute worse it is twice as bad as a similar ICE vehicle to build, and typically far closer to the same. The pollution from production is completely offset in the first year of driving if powered by 100% renewable energy or nuclear, and typically within 3-5 years with the US national power grid averages. As for end of life of the battery, that is after well over a decade of driving. Several EVs are well over 300,000 miles now on the original batteries. And then after the life of the vehicle is over, the battery can and frequently is still used for other applications. Finally, when the battery actually does reach the end of its life, there are battery recycling centers popping up everywhere. Lead Acid batteries are already over 95% recycled and lithium is getting up there as well.

[@Denis-tu1pd]

@anthonypelchat all of that mining equipment running on diesel and the giant electric mining equipment gets its power from some where be it diesel or natural gas power plants .

[@anthonypelchat]

@@Denis-tu1pd First, all that pollution IS COUNTED in during the production emissions of the vehicles. It isn't that much higher than a purely ICE vehicle. Second, those emissions are outweighed during normal travel. Depending on your power source, you could have reduced pollution in an EV compared to an ICE in just a few months of driving. On average though, it takes 3-5 years to average out. Finally, those mining locations are getting better as well. Electric mining equipment has been in use for years. And the power can come from any source. Natural Gas powered electric vehicles and mining equipment is still cleaner than ICE only. Take a look at hybrid trains. They run on batteries and electric motors, but get their power directly from diesel generators. And even still, they are stronger, faster, and use less diesel than their diesel only counterparts.

[@Denis-tu1pd]

The earth is going throw a cycle from the iceage to the high heat .all manufactoring is speeding up the cycle . Every person i talked to is buying electric cars or trucks not to cleaner but so they dont have to pay at the pumps . If you want electric cars , trucks to really work then have electric stations on our highways a d have a 3 minute fill up and go the same distance as your gas or diesel counter parts. I would rather have hydrogen power your not sitting in an electro magnetic field .

[@ranig2848]

Without going into the whole for/against argument about credits, Tesla now sales more CyberTrucks (which are a truck as much as the F150 is) than F150 lightings. In fact, they’re selling more CyberTrucks than all other EV pickups COMBINED. Additionally, in 2025 Tesla will ramp up the Semi manufacturing with the goal to reach 50,000/year by 2027 or 2028…. So more than enough credits are available - not saying it’s fair or not… it is available.

[@buttercuptaylor7135]

How 'bout the millionaires give up their private planes that emit as much pollution in one flight as my gas car does IN MY LIFETIME.

[@mrmichaeltscott]

Do all the unsold electric trucks on the lot count? They are getting a severe case of lot rot. No one wants them.

[@illogicallogic6001]

A credit system is not FREE AMERICA! This is a scam play money Democrat grab 100% right here. Ridiculous! Buy our EV so you get credits to sale your gave motor? WTF is this BS.. SICK!

[@anthonypelchat]

Look at it the other way. We want to buy an EV, but the manufacturer refuses to build one. They bring up excuse after excuse, but end up refusing. So we have no choice on an EV. So this is to make the manufacturers build some. Likewise, the credits allow manufacturers who are simply unable to build an EV to buy credits to continue selling vehicles.

[@illogicallogic6001]

​ @anthonypelchat You are the 0.01%er's that try's to make the remaining 99.99%er suffer! WE ALL PAY MORE NOW CAUSE OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU! You do not force a company to do what you think they should. You get out like Elon Musk and you build your own EV company so you can do things your way. That's how it should work in a FREE AMERICA!

[@2nd_of_3]

What total ignorance. Who will you blame next?

[@Wanderinggypsy68]

doo hoo cry me a river plenty of other states sell them. you all act like there are only 13 states. you all know there are 37 mores states right

[@RVMiles]

You do know that 1/3 of the people in the country live in those states, right?

[@shanonqual759]

Thank God for Trump all this BS is going to be rolled back, liberal crap

[@homeshows]

You apparently don't care for the earth and are waiting for Elon to make way for Mars so you have a new planet to ruin.

[@1798iscomingback]

You apparently don't care to verify the information you receive. CO2 is plant food and that is the reason we build green houses and ADD CO2 into it: to have better produce. Also, the atmosphere is close to minimum levels of CO2 , below which plants start to die.... Therefore, if you are REALLY concerned with the environment , you should buy a truck with the biggest engine you can get and use it for everything, including going to buy milk...

[@RonnieStanley-tc6vi]

​@@homeshows. You're so wise.😂😂😂. Your opinion must be the only one that matters and only one that cares about the earth.😂😂😂😂. Get outta town clown!!😂😂😂. Go peddle your dooms day BS somewhere else. Go live your life. Be green. Drink soy milk. But, don't act like your views are the only things that matter.

[@commonsense2469]

@@homeshowsstupid comment

[@Graybeard1405]

Yes, the second coming of the “Orange Jesus” excites all of you ill informed miscreants. Own the libs is your goal in life. Sad.