Original BMPCC vs BMPCC4K | In-depth Comparison

[@jessica_video_projects]

The bmpcc is timeless. I have one and it will always be my special camera. I will also have it for a B roll or for special projects. You can't beat that classic look it has. 🤘😎

[@carlscinema7086]

There for sure is something special about it

[@musar03580]

Let's hope someone will always be making usable SD cards for us.

[@mjgfromDDD]

Can't mention enough how much I love the OG one. It's my only camera and have not been inspired to use anything else. All my videos on my channel from last year are with it and I'm still learning more about it and enjoying it heavily.

[@carlscinema7086]

That's awesome!

[@deadastronaut2440]

True story; 45 minutes after watching this video I went to my local BM dealer and picked up a bmpcc 4k

[@bobspez]

Thank you for this video. I've had the original bmpcc for about 18 months. My go to setup is a .71x metabones speedbooster and the Nikon mount Tokina 11-16mm f2.8, shooting in Cinema DNG at 800-iso and editing in Davinci Resolve 16. I have to say your video has convinced me not to upgrade to the 4K. I just don't see any advantage, and in most of the comparisons I preferred your OG image to the 4K.

[@dmimageproduction]

Bmpcc is the best in 2030

[@musar03580]

Thanks to the 15-year anniversary reissue 2028!

[@GearZenChannel]

Kingston Canvas React works for the OG BMPCC, but was discontinued. You can get the micro SD version, but never tried that one. Angelbird SD card is the best call now for OG BMPCC. One other option nobody talks about is something like the ATOMOS Ninja Star. Thanks for the great video!

[@automatisatorpeace5453]

NO REACT! There are problems with that! Angelbird too expensive! "Kingston CANVAS Select Plus" (green/white) works! ;)

[@GearZenChannel]

@@automatisatorpeace5453 My Canvas React 64 and 128 work fine even at 30fps RAW. Maybe you got a fake? And yes, Angelbird are expensive, but you will not have to guess whether they work or not.

[@automatisatorpeace5453]

​@@GearZenChannel See: forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91479&start=50#p572184 And: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZXUcohvmZp1mpY The problem was with me: As soon as the SD card is about 30-60% full with CDNG files, there are dropped frames or the recording simply stops. Kingston CANVAS Select Plus (GREEN/WHITE), works even better than the recommended (no longer available) SanDisk Extreme Pro. :) No dropped frames with 30FPS RAW. I have 128GB, 256GB... all Kingston CANVAS Select Plus work fine.

[@GearZenChannel]

@@automatisatorpeace5453 I know some say no, but many reports indicate they are fine. If I had to go back I would just buy a few Angelbird cards and not worry. It's really not a great situation when everyone reports different results!

[@trevorwright6058]

@@automatisatorpeace5453 I use the 128G Kingston CANVAS select plus micro SD. Found the real cheap on ebay. Do RAW PERFECT!

[@2handsomeforlaw]

Excellent comparison, thanks for posting! I have had the original since B&Hhad the sale on it and recently bought a second one. Love it have not found anything as good color science vise, and the image is so "film-like". For those that need a 4k, 6k, or 8k image the Superscale tool in Resolve is great!

[@aestevesdesign]

Hi Carl. Thank you very much for the video! I have BMPCC OG and BMPCC4k. Could you do a tutorial on how to mach the colors of the two cameras? I also use Davinci Resolve. Thank you very much and keep making these videos!

[@esterhammerfic]

Great job. I have the original and it's wild how good the image still is in these comparisons

[@dark-well]

Both camera are great. Had the OG for few weeks, now waiting for the 4k version. What about noise performance between these two? Good vid Carl!

[@carlscinema7086]

Thanks! Noise performance part starts at 08:03

[@FilmSpook]

Thank you, Carl, brother! Excellent, excellent in-depth comparison!! Cheers 👍🏾

[@carlscinema7086]

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it :)

[@FilmSpook]

@@carlscinema7086 Very welcome, my friend. 😃

[@theearthisbread]

They should’ve kept the og bmpcc in production. Or update it to a 4k mini version with the same housing as nothing would beat it in its size and probably even price.

[@DavidGriffin]

Hey Carl... You've helped me decide to get an original pocket. Any advice on low cost rigging and media?

[@musar03580]

It's been a while since your original post, but if you are still looking, the Will von Tagen KZbin channel may be helpful. He has gone to the trouble of manufacturing some rigging parts specifically for the OG Pocket Cinema Camera.

[@DavidGriffin]

Last comment Carl... Would you consider comparing the Canon M Magic Lantern footage to the GH5 and Original BMPCC footage. Raw for $200... Sounds to good to be true.

[@carlscinema7086]

Don't own one so I can't compare it but I did own one a long time ago. I had magic lantern installed on it but never really used Raw, seemed like a hassle with the crops and format which led to a combersome workflow.

[@legendp2011]

both the canon and gh5 have worse dynamic range. The bmpcc has much greater dynamic range (12 vs 10 usable stops. or 13 vs 11 advertised stops). With the blackmagic cameras a IR cut filter is recommended (especially the older ones)

[@aholder4471]

Wow that's a lot closer than I thought it would be. The saturation is just a little more on the 4k. The moire is a thing, but it's something I can deal with. 80% of the time I'm not delivering in 4k, so I kind of think the OG is what I'm looking for. However I do like the braw of the 4k.

[@herbalgods]

This video is everything for me. I’ve shot heavily with both.

[@SimplicityForGood]

I checked this whole year at the face book group and eBay... I found one today with Kingston 256 GB memory card (special standard suitable for BMPCC) -3 batteries (of which 2 Nikon batteries with extra long battery life) and the charger of course, all for 487 dollars on a different local site for second hand stuff... I got three 4/3 micro lenses from my GH3 camera... So, am considering this camera now.. but am not sure as the Black Magic 4k is just a couple of more hundred dollars more as a second hand camera and the same with the Gh5S that handles low light situations and got automatic focus for me to act in front of the camera. How to act in from of the Black Magic original camera when you are on your own, no auto focus?! anyone got some good advices? shall I skip the OG and go for another GH camera in 2023 to get auto focus as I am in front of my own camera in what I do now as an actor/director?... though the image the OG produce is really cool and a big 70s-80s trend now! hmm, what people advise ? is it just a nightmare to get started with the OG if you want to film yourself acting or can one set the focus in a good enough way and act out monologues, reporting from places when out n' about and get the 70s look a the same time or is it better to get a GH5s or gh6 and let the auto focus work for you and try to struggle in the edit to get a more cinematic look with those cameras? please advice! thanks

[@beneathunderneath2571]

I like the old BMPCC is best ! It had low data video !

[@carlscinema7086]

Do you mean in terms of smaller files? Because if you shoot 1080p ProRes on the Pocket 4K (downsampled from the full sensor) you'll get the same file sizes.

[@nightdonutstudio]

Could not see much difference in terms of sharpness on my 4k monitor. but however the original has a lot lot aliasing on your shirt.

[@mauschger]

Thank you so much for this wonderful Informationen. I love my Original and you show me why.

[@supergrammar]

Love the channel Carl. Do you know how much a Tilta cage for the original BMPCC costs these days? Cheers.

[@Lp-ze1tg]

I watch an interview on KZbin regarding shooting video/movie in 4k or not. If the raw files are good enough to upscale from 1080p to 4k then it doesn't really matter.

[@matthewleibrock4414]

I am loving my OG BMPCC. The only complaint I have is the lack of new lut support I’m seeing. Some of the new luts I like are all starting to support the new color Gen science on the newer 4k and up models. I shoot mine with the Sirui 50m Anamorphic lens and couldn’t be happier.

[@sergioknuf]

Can you use the sirui 75mm with it?

[@rybalchenkofamily]

can convert OG to gen 4 colors then use bmpcc4k luts

[@phb0306]

Bmpcc og 에서 질량감이 더 느껴져요.. 잘만들어졌네요..

[@legendp2011]

would be interesting to see some landscape shots at f9 (as in close ups the difference in resolution is not noticeable)..... I have the original pocket, at 4:20 the moire on the shirt is the biggest difference. I love my original pocket (have the zacutu evf and the dedicated bmpcc ef speed)....I don't want to sell it for the 4k, but from a working on set production stand point the 4k makes more sense to own for a "B" cam. (my "A" cam is a Red Scarlet, although thinking of moving my "A" camera to a Canon c200)

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

To be honest the difference is next to non existing. I am amazed how well the RAW video material of the BMPCC competes against the 4K model. And to be honest i prefer the FullHD picture over the slightly over-sharp 4K model since the 4K one looks a bit too much like Video while the BMPCC (even though it too still looks like video) reminds me a lot more of Film since it is not unnaturally over-sharp. I'm sure if you'd properly upscale the Full HD material to 4K you still would barely see a difference.

[@leventebaumann6001]

Excellent work!

[@chunmattlai3058]

have you used the micro cinema camera ?

[@carlscinema7086]

I have not, unfortunately

[@chunmattlai3058]

@@carlscinema7086 try it if you have a chance

[@vertical_tv]

Nice vid!

[@carlscinema7086]

Thanks :)

[@fodsonmedia]

Tjena Carl! Intressant video helt klart! Vi har en BMPCC4K i en verksamhet jag bedriver med en kollega, men jag är själv på jakt efter ett "original", så roligt att se dessa jämförelser. Ska kika igenom dina andra video också. Subscribed :) /Fredrik

[@handwoundpickups6555]

Great video thanks

[@cecyliamoreira]

Hello! Could you tell me which memory card to use in this camera? I can't find any compatible ones.

[@chumcool]

So, what is my actual focal length if I am using a Sigma 18mm-35mm Art lens paired with a metabones Speedbooster XL 0.64x on a BMPCC4K? I can never get a definitive answer on this subject for some reason.

[@melissacristina9117]

If you want as close as possible “ film like” footage, the OG bmpcc is the real deal.

[@sergioknuf]

Dehancer makes the 4k look like film !

[@clayz8098]

What would I need to use my canon ef zeiss distagon 35mm on bmpcc og? The lens does not have stabilisation itself. Would rigging the camera up be enough? What should the rig include?

[@arnoldShop25]

It would be nice if you can uploade some raw files from the original bmpcc. I tried to find some online but I can’t. All links are too old. Thanks.

[@crs2crs2]

Thank you for this video!

[@carlscinema7086]

You're welcome :)

[@karl-marxschweinsteiger1828]

Bmpcc best thn Bmpc4k just need to upscale with upscale pluging Premier or Topaz lab

[@marcopej]

Great!!! Thank you!!

[@RisticXMMII]

Thank you!

[@mdevo77]

What's the latest firmware for the OG BMPCC? How can you tell which firmware the camera is running?

[@erzhavin]

ver 2.1 is the latse. I can send you

[@erzhavin]

latest

[@daslolo]

what shutter angle?

[@bryanbarajasBB]

Interesting!!

[@madedigital]

4k and the OG

[@_arturjutkowiak_film]

BMCC 2.5k > BMPCC > BMPCC4k.

[@mjgfromDDD]

Can you share what makes the 2.5k version different from the OG version? Outside of physical differences of course.

[@cesarnsanchez]

5:44 what did he say that he can see on his shirt?

[@carlscinema7086]

Moiré

[@stefanlehrner6184]

Hi I have an offer for an original with cage, pistol grip and lens hood for €500 and a ten times used 4k for € 900. I will never shoot 4k - Which one will you recommend? I am mainly shooting weddings and will always use a tripod for the BMPCC... Thank you for your advice.

[@eurosoccerschoolsbloemfont5610]

Hi Carl, have bought the original today and need a lens for it , without buying and adaptor for now. will the sigma 18-35mm fit on the camera? or which lens you recommend that i can start out with, does not have to be a budget lens as id like to use it when i upgrade to the 4k one day. thanks in advance

[@carlscinema7086]

The sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art comes in Canon EF or Nikon F mounts, so you will need an adapter to mount it on the camera since it has a MFT mount. What lens to get really depends on your needs, shooting style, budget etc. But if you are going to go with a one lens setup, I would recommend to go with a zoom to cover a range of focal lengths.

[@eurosoccerschoolsbloemfont5610]

@@carlscinema7086 thanks so much

[@angeldimitrov2146]

BMPCC for CINEMA, BMPCC4k for production.

[@sergioknuf]

Not true! Dehancer makes the 4k way better film look

[@IsidorRedondo]

I bought one nad its my personal camera i dont use it in event

[@meikmeiker2615]

Superscale make a new camera out of it

[@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss]

This is like the difference between 35mm and 16mm film…

[@josevalderas5778]

SUBTITLES PLEASE...

I whish BM give us a new real pocket camera... not 4k.

[@ritmicdance]

Сколько тебе платят за рекламу?

[@ritmicdance]

Твои сравнения пустые! В разных ситуациях камеры работают по разному.

[@NicoManansala]

4K is way more better camera than original

[@matthewphillips5483]

"way more better?"