Orion HCCA64N VS DS18 PRO-FR6NEO best car audio 6.5 mid bass midrange speakers

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Orion HCCA64N 1400 Watt amzn.to/2ItFSDg
Orion XPM654MBF 1600 Watts Max Power amzn.to/2Hrjda4
ORION XTR654 NEO 6.5" 4 OHMS XTR amzn.to/3rqWtxs
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Orion Cobalt CM655DC 6.5" 4 OHMS amzn.to/3qDv24m
Orion HCCA64N 6.5" 4 OHM Serie Ultra
High Efficiency Neodymium Magnet amzn.to/3GKH01N
DS18 PRO-FR6NEO amzn.to/32X345Z
Beyma PRO6WNd amzn.to/39vNild
PRV Audio 6MR500-NDY-4 amzn.to/2wEFSgI
PRV AUDIO 6MR500-NDY 8Ohm amzn.to/2IsemWw
PRV Audio 6MB200-4 V2 6-1/2" Midbass amzn.to/3b543ox
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B&C 6MDN44 6.5" Neodymium 400 Watts amzn.to/2Sfq7E6
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Orion Cobalt CM65 1000 Watt 4-Ohm amzn.to/2SM2WTI
Orion XTX654 6.5" 1400 Watts amzn.to/2T0lC0D
Pioneer TS-M650PRO 6-3/4" PRO amzn.to/2SktRWa
Pyramid W64 6.5" 200 Watt amzn.to/2OmWiAt
Gravity WZL6 6.5″ Midrange amzn.to/2tsezW0
Gravity WZP65 6.5" 600 Watts 4-Ohm amzn.to/31l3nXO
SUNDOWN AUDIO SXMP-6.5 4-OHM 6.5" amzn.to/2UgWlBA
Rockford Fosgate PPS4-6 6.5" 200 Watt amzn.to/3b3hs0g
DS18 PRO-NEO6 Loudspeaker amzn.to/2VN0huO
DS18 PRO-ZT6 450 Watts Max 4 ohm amzn.to/2u1CkEF
DS18 PRO-X6.4BM 6.5" Midrange amzn.to/36OvRdy
DS18 6.5" 960W Midrange Loud Speaker amzn.to/2UiW1Cv
DS18 Mid Range Red Bullet Loud amzn.to/2uVUFTG
GPRO-M0865 300W Speaker amzn.to/36RAx2e
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Eminence American (BETA6A) amzn.to/2v04Mai
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[@Unit4321]

Idk what everyone is talking but Ds18 sounds crisp clean you want bass get a subwoofer

[@redhorse6084]

Bro, just discover you today and I already want to say thank you for your work man its actually entertaining rather than browsing and going through comments on amazon just to figure out what midrange speakers that I can match with my P3 subwoofer. Anyways, that beat you keep playing now stuck on head, good shit bro and keep up the great work

[@simeonjames3471]

I fine the orion sounding much cleaner at higher volumes

[@williammercer8839]

I asked for the HCCA’s & you delivered!!!! Thanks 🙏🏾

[@MeYou-fm8nn]

This is one of my favorite channels to watch right now. Keep up the good work Mike. Thank you for giving an honest opinion.

[@heavy12inchsub79]

can't believe I just found this channel. very informative 👏. thanks for helping ppl make their decisions 👍

[@thehnic734]

Love your new setup! You're growing fast, keep it up!👍👍

[@RobHTech]

dude. your channel is starting to get pro. Making great improvements. Like the vids. keep up with the new equipment. Can we see more Eminence, Dayton Audio, Tang Band, etc.

[@NHK196]

Mike I really appreciate these videos. Thanks for doing them.

[@lincoln4015]

So many positive comments on your channel bro Good job keep it up, always enjoying your videos!

[@Ole.red_4.6frmda252]

They both sound really damn good but the Orion sounds like it hits deeper mids and also louder

[@naturallyaspirated3810]

HONEST OPINION , from a guy new to Orion and DS18 : ORION Sounds so much BETTER , Clean in every way , best midrange speakers on the market. DS18 in the other hand sounds great too , just not as clear as Orion. Español : ORION ES MEJOR AMIGO.

[@bigpapatyr0ne732]

For someone who is new to these brands you sure are pretty convinced that Orion is the best on the market. How would you know that if you’re new to the brand?

[@naturallyaspirated3810]

@@bigpapatyr0ne732 everything thing that was tested on this video should answer your question on MIDRANGE SPEAKERS*

[@LG2333]

Been waiting all day Mikey.

[@sansantos75]

Tough to decide cause they both sound good.. 👍👍

[@s2k376]

Both sounded really great. Nice video!

[@RetroKong77]

Why has no one done this before? Great idea. Love the setup.

[@egm092478]

Best on KZbin brother

[@jasonneal]

Hey Mike, I finally got my hands on 3 sets of the Orion HCCA 654NHP series, and HOLY S#%T this are super loud and clear. These have the 2” voice coil. They have a very linear sound. So the ones your testing on this video is the HCCA 654N I believe has the 1.5” voice coil. I love these Orion’s. Thanks again for all the videos your putting out. Really helped me choose the speakers without wasting money 🤘🏻

[@croslowj]

Where did you find them. I been looking and can't find any

[@jasonneal]

croslowj I found them on FB market. Some guy bought them, never used them and decided to sell them. I got lucky, bc I’ve been looking for 3 months. I even called Orion and they said their stuff was on backorder and they are getting pissed bc nothing high end is coming in.

[@croslowj]

@@jasonneal thank you for letting me know. I really appreciate it.

[@S2XCREW]

So After Testing a Bunch Of Mid Speakers. Which one you think is the best when it comes to Very Clear Vocals even at very high Volume, because i know there are some that even at Mid Volume or Over that, they sound very raspy and alot of Distortion.

[@TheHyvoltage]

thanks again for the vids mike

[@VenganzaCayey]

Would like to hear different speakers. Just subscribed to your channel great video.

[@ramyhaj7226]

Both great 👍👍👍. Thank you Mike 😊

[@anthonyromero3646]

I just put a pair of the ds18 after seeing this video couldn’t be happier for the money what a clear and loud speaker

[@vaderproductionz8584]

How about the Bass?

[@adrianb7452]

@@vaderproductionz8584 for bass you get subs not mids

[@moderngunguy3666]

@@adrianb7452 not true you also need mid base not just subwoofers

[@prettylittledil1400]

Great review and thousands of likes 🎉❤❤❤

[@brandoyo9689]

Orion’s sounded like they had a fuller range. The DS18’s sounded good though. I would probably go with the Orion’s strictly because of the superior low range. I like the brightness of the highs. Looking forward to the Orion NHP’s and the new Deaf Bonce Apocalypse AP-M67AN

[@skankhunt-jc6yx]

You can feel those orion's smack you in the face with the midbass

[@jasonneal]

Orion is just killing it.

[@stayathome316]

You need to do a video on the new set up and your gear! How many watts are you giving the orion?

[@ascencioespinal8968]

yo tengo una honda pilot 2016 cual de los parlantes 6 1/2 salio mejor evaluado al final sonido costo y que quede en las puertas me podes decir estoy buscando cambiar tengo un amp kicker de de cuatro canales cxa 300.4

[@r1ashad]

Orion HCCA654N and Orion HCCA654NHP are now discontinued 😢! Could you do a comparison of the midrange DS18 PRO-NEO6R? The PRO-NEO6R are more comparable to the HCCA64N.

[@omarserna1732]

Nice setup for switching speakers

[@eDL713]

Orion is the legend. They created pretty much the best amp ever made back in the 80’s 90’s but they’ve since been bought out. DS18 on the other hand are definitely here to fight for that top spot. The clarity is amazing from midrange and lets you hear parts of the song you wouldn’t hear otherwise. great for full setups with subwoofers.

[@FrankStPeter]

🙄

[@charliefrancis6438]

I also own a pair of both Orion and DS-18 , it is hard to tell the difference, I think the Orion’s are louder and a little cleaner at high volume, over 100 watts , but they both like high crossover frequencies, for being 8 inch midbasses, about 150hz@12db per octave 100hz@24db per octave , if you’re running more than 150 watts increase the crossover more , then you only have to worry about thermal overload

[@jackhammell1926]

The Orion sounded the best in my headphones

[@usatechcity]

It would be nice if you can dyno the speaker and found out how many rms putting out.

[@huellentertainment2712]

Orion is cleaner, DS18 is good but clarity speaks best for me.

[@chard6163]

Please try the ds18 Pro-neo6r thanks always watching your videos

[@jean-pierremartin2520]

Xtx654 vs hcca64 ? Witch one should I buy ?

[@dogman7qlol625]

Loved the setup more to the point then other ones and since less pauses between switching speakers easier to hear difference Orion sounded great ds 18 was louder but sounded distorted at times

[@dogman7qlol625]

And not picking on ds18 if turned ds18 may sound same or if raised Orion so as loud as ds18 may be same just needing less or more power.

[@magarwal1]

Great Work, I would be great if you put sound track separately to hear. youtube compress sound.

[@mac4782]

Both sound good. DS18 was a bit louder and the Orion was the cleanest sound of the two.

[@agustinburgos7366]

Try the DS18 PRO NEO6R 600W because of its specifications is at another level

[@ln.5699]

Sensitivity is 92 how is this on another level

[@rattanborn22]

Cany wait for u to test with the orion hcca 64NHP. Its d higher model to d hcca 64N

[@kobehoward6023]

please do some Audiopipe speakers. thank you

[@stockwell54]

ds18 is super clear its also shallower making mounting easier and only 2/3 the power to drive. DS18 being paper will sound super crisp

[@jward19831]

10:14 what the name of the song your using at that time bro???

[@jamesgames3071]

The ds18 will most likely be louder but the Orion will be more deep with the sound notes.

[@BlackPanther-oo4zj]

Salute!

[@Mario77920]

Obviously Ds18 was louder but Orion was a whole lot cleaner!!! IMO

[@jasonneal]

I bought the Orion HCCA 654NHP series and HOLY F#€K these are seriously loud and super clean

[@FrankStPeter]

I got the XTR 64N and XTR 1.00tw and they absolutely smoked my MB

[@kriptic22]

Ds18 plays loud, but is very bright for a midrange which is a turnoff. Lacks any punch to it and just plays bright and loud. Personally, I want fuller sound from a mid, don't want it to sound like a tweeter. I'll take the Orion.

[@kingwillie206]

Exactly! That why tweeters were invented.

[@RydinginStyle72]

The Orion sounds clearer to me and my girlfriend agrees...

[@eDL713]

It’s all about the setup. Ds18 midrange pro calls for subwoofers in the trunk but can take more bass if tuned correctly. About to try exl 600 watt version next. I’ve heard in person and these videos are great but you just can’t do any justice to a speaker over videos. KZbin comments have been the only place i see people wanting more bass from midrange. They should have a little bump but shouldn’t be shaking side mirrors and rearview. In the case of un-tuned speakers if you’re going the Orion route you might wanna add an 8” sub or FULL range speakers of the same size and take a little bass off the deck if not looking into heavy hitting subs.

[@brandoyo9689]

I would like to hear the Radian Audio 6CRF5130’s They are 6.5 coaxials with planar ribbons. Nobody ever reviews Radian Audio

[@cruzrivera504]

do you have a video of ds18 fr6neo vs. deafbonnce arnold? i can't find it!

[@navardacosta4795]

I wanna see that test too

[@genepetty3769]

Have you ever try the fatal pro

[@SleepyBoiii]

Im a Ds18 person but orion killed it on this one

[@trollslayer8260]

Like alot of the speakers tested on here, you can tune these to sound great with a crossover, with bandpass filtering capability. The real test is longevity, and power handling . When you use these as a full range with no tweeter, the highs arent as loud as the mids , unless you have them pointed straight at your head. What im saying is the off axis response in the 5khz and up range is 3 to 10 db less , depending on the angle and the frequency. 6.5 inch and up speaker cones are not able to disperse upper frequencies as wide as the mid and low frequencies. Thats why tweeters have a small cone .

[@FrankStPeter]

🙄

[@trollslayer8260]

@@FrankStPeter 😒

[@eugenem24m]

Is skar better then audiopipe?

[@seniorxj2931]

I like the Legos holding up the speakers!

[@RobHTech]

Under higher power, the DS18 breaks up in the highs, like it was designed too high. The Orion is crystal clear even at high power

[@tankkinfolkreed1402]

I just got the orion m65s an they sound just as good as ds 18s

[@galaxytraveler5779]

Yup the Orion sounds like the better range of sound to me. At least from what i hear over the the video.

[@lawrencecoore3569]

Bring it on bro

[@michaelsegarra2709]

Sorry i could not be here live mike very busy day for me

[@kinsaudio9883]

Any test with faital pro?

[@nestobatista7911]

Prv vs orion 😅 So far my favorite mid range speakers , thanks mike

[@RydinginStyle72]

I just bought all three of these for my Harley. PRV, Orion, ans DS18s! I can't wait to get them installed! 😀👍

[@RAW_Reality]

@@RydinginStyle72 Got any comparisons to make?

[@jitendrathannoo363]

Orion for life

[@codilankford6173]

I'm currently using Orion CM65 Cobalt midrange and I want something that can handle a bit lower frequency's. Right now they distort at high volumes with my crossover at 100hz so i set it at 120hz and then they are OK, do you think these HCCA64N are significantly better than the Cobalt CM65? I have enough power to push either one on my amp, and they are in a system with a set of tweeters and a subwoofer. The subwoofer is in the trunk though and I just want some more bass punch up front... What do you think from testing both of those? Maybe the hcca64n i can tune a bit lower than the CM65 I currently have?

[@NHK196]

Isn't the Cobalt line their entry level? If it is then the HCCAs should sound better plus they can handle more power.

[@xokings8673]

Can you make a video with ds18 pro-fu8.8

[@genepetty3769]

I would like to see the Orion play against the 18 sound 6.5

[@joecalabrese8918]

Hey can you do db drive pro 6.5 midrange speakers vs ds18 pro 6.5 midrange speakers

[@Mortagleus]

Please review the wolfram wpa 6.5

[@ethadon1]

orian got it bass and the voice sound good on the db18 tho

[@TheTalkShytShow]

Orion for the win in this one

[@waveydavey2721]

Orion for me personally, I'm more a SQ person. They sounded a little clearer. In saying that I'm only using Sennheiser headphones.

[@edgarguel1472]

Wavey Davey SQ person with open show components...? Really!!!????

[@waveydavey2721]

@@edgarguel1472 I'm just getting back into car audio, these type of speakers didn't exist back in the 90's and I've never heard of them till now. But thanx for your comment and I did say I'm more a SQ more, not fully a SQ person if you read my comment....

[@armonnykelley1838]

Sq wise the DS18 is actually the better speaker and brand. I've tested them first hand & they beat most of the competition hands down ESPECIALLY at "bang for buck"!

[@kriptic22]

@@armonnykelley1838 - gotta disagree. Heard ds18 in multiple setups. They are more of a spl then sq. They get loud for sure, but lacks the sq when they really start getting power.

[@jasondeochand4164]

Yo bro do audiopipe vs fital pro I’ve watch all your video and not one audiopipe you played

[@isidrosevier1125]

Hey Mike can you revisit these Orion hcca, against timpano 6.5 neo they look like the ds18 basket

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Yep you right ill do soon

[@isidrosevier1125]

@@LIFEINSPEED cool thanks brother

[@FrankStPeter]

First thing I like to say is thank you Mike second the price of the ds18 has doubled the price of the Orion went up $30 ,,,Orion has their own build house ds18 picks and chooses from whatever Chinese junk they got and put their name on it that's why ds18 has so many different models and types of everything and in another twenty years from now ORION will still be here can you say the same for ds18

[@Frito505]

What app do you use on your phone to adjust the sound

[@God.Tier.Walmart.Employee]

Settings

[@kernhamilton553]

Try to add the rcf and 18sound

[@lastkings2075]

Can any one tell me what’s the best 10inch midrange mid bass speakers please need to kno what to invest in

[@grant86878]

D.A.S

[@DevizaMaxim]

Bought these orions after watching the video, sound good but definently need a tweeter for complete sound. Unfortunately one was crackling:((( ,bad experience bro. Sent them back today.

[@EGV1961]

Same happend to me dont recommend setting crossover at 120hz

[@nuclearaudio1968]

What is some poeerful bass speaker 18

[@dinky264]

Not because own them but the Orion is cleaner by far

[@speakerzedan103]

Can you review deafbonce dsp sir

[@trinicustomdesigns211]

Orion for the win

[@jorgelobos8153]

Ds18 were great with a subwoofer but once my epicenter burned out it really makes you hear how flat they really are, not saying that they weren't great fucking speakers , paired with a sub godamn your shitting on Srt8 chargers with exhausts cant even hear em xD. But I firmly believe that speakers that good and loud SHOULD have more bass in them even without a sub . I blew them out this week after 1 month of having them, gonna buy em again with a better epicenter , audio control.

[@beyondthedetails]

Lmao. You don’t understand what a midrange speaker is then.

[@b1shotit513]

Orión has a cleaner sound🥵🔥💯💯💯💯

[@arturofraire1696]

The ds18 is a full range speaker that’s why it’s labeled proneofr6 should’ve compared the ds18 proneo6 for a better comparison

[@TheDoghigh]

Dam that DS18 sounds so fucking good I am Using a hyperX headset and its amazing

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Yep impressive sound from ds

[@Abel3270]

@@LIFEINSPEED I wish it had more bass

[@michaelgerhardt8976]

Can't find the xtr pro 6.5 in 4 ohm anywhere, only the 8 ohm option, should I go with the 4 ohm hcca or the xtr pro and run them in parallel?

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Dont buy that get neo version easier to install bro so many guys have problem to install that shit magnet is huge

[@michaelgerhardt8976]

@@LIFEINSPEED the sound quality is about the same? I have room to space out in the back. Thanks for all the videos man! Helped me decide on almost my whole system

[@jasonsmith7307]

@@LIFEINSPEED which one sounds better though the pro or the hcca if install room is not a problem

[@LG2333]

Xpm654mbf kills the neos easily. I have both of the. Xpm654mbf and xtr654neo

[@timothy5977]

So, the DS18 has the same basket as the Recoil RPM265. The Recoil has a bigger magnet, though. But the problem I had was the basket! I had to grind those big hooks close to the magnet to be more flat like the Orion. They will not fit in any Honda. Heads up to anyone buying the DS18 or the Recoil brand. The Recoil sounds great, though.

[@recon440]

Recoil is a ferrite midbass driver. Not the same animal even though basket is shared.

[@brandoyo9689]

Have you broken in any of these speakers? Sometimes it sounds like they are fresh out of the box, and most speakers need time to break in

[@cks54]

Orion is the kingssssss

[@Banned_loI]

You are using the full range neo. It has a different frequency response than the mid range. The Pro-Neo6 has a frequency response of 124Hz - 9.7KHz. The full range Neo is 151-12.5KHz.

[@justinatmidi]

It's not a fullrange tho, just a widerange mid.....a fullrange speaker goes from under 90hz to 20khz or above......it's nowhere near a fullrange speaker

[@gregoryn9428]

Tuning by ear..soon a lost forgotten skill

[@vittoriocr7]

DS18❤️

[@calisyoung1979]

Avatar MTU-61 | 6.5” speakers vs deaf bonce 6.5 speakers

[@groc2273]

Orion hands down souds clearer......you all saying ds18 are deaf???

[@argentmobile]

i can't not find some Orion HCCA64N in stock ebay and amazon are backorder :(

[@r1ashad]

Discontinued! 😭

[@Abel3270]

Tell me about it 💔

[@donearl6675]

Orion👍

[@justinvanburen8259]

Orion!!