I laughed really hard at your anecdote about evading the neighbors. Jeez, I relate to that, which is so not funny that it's funny!
@Caroline-fb3sz Жыл бұрын
LOVE your description of generalized anxiety disorder! I am about to have to go on stress leave from work for a bit because my anxiety has gotten so bad and I said the exact same thing to them - my body reacts like I am under attack when I am facing what are probably normal amounts of stress and demands to other people. It's made me physically sick and then I get anxious about feeling sick, just a vicious cycle! I am going to use how you describe it to talk to a therapist about it, but it's good to know I'm not alone.
@kingretro2360 Жыл бұрын
We're in the same boat my friend
@Alan-yg6gv6 ай бұрын
Very much feel the same way. You are definitely not alone.
@TheCassierra908 Жыл бұрын
I can relate to avoiding neighbors. If I do run into anyone unexpectedly, I freeze up and stumble over my words. I have ASD and SAD. All so relatable.
@randalalansmith9883 Жыл бұрын
"Why should you care what other people think? Just be yourself!" "I care because any interaction with a stranger has the potential to escalate to violence if they find me to be a threat to their fragile model of society."
@randalalansmith9883 Жыл бұрын
It was one thing back when I was an awkward kid with the body-language of Edward Scissorhands. But one day someone says "You're an adult now, and people find you threatening."
@hannahowen1801 Жыл бұрын
This is the exact reason I am overly nice to everyone all the time. I really do want to let go of that way of thinking have the courage to correct people when they're wrong and call people out on their bullshit.
@chaoswraith10 ай бұрын
The dumber a person is, the more they scare me because they are more likely to resort to violence when they don't understand something or get offended/get told the truth. any little thing shatters their perception of """respect"""
@Catlady-tm2oi3 ай бұрын
Spot on! I feel so relieved I’m not the only one! Diagnosed with anxiety at age 33, autism at 43. “Previewing” and researching every place I go- even if I have been there before, is the #1 way I manage. Then run through every single possible scenario from “I have to say hello” to “aliens are real and are eating my husband” with responses for each one. Happy to say that after a while, there are a limited number of responses so the anxiety is finally starting to be manageable. (FYI- “hello” in varying tones of voice is a good response to majority of situations.)
@lizardme889 ай бұрын
I can relate completely. I just did this tonight while leaving the house hoping the neighbor wouldnt say hello.
@jennifergauthier32823 жыл бұрын
Well said. Your vulnerability is beautiful. And I can identify with so much of which you spoke. 😀
@mike-williams2 жыл бұрын
I certainly have anxiety issues,but they're directed towards specific situations rather than a general issue. There is something of what is called hypervigilance in these situations, and that is generally tied to bullying that has occurred. When you have gone through years of being physically and psychologically attacked then you're very very wary. The connection between anxiety and masking, the fear of having public burnout, of being shamed for your artist traits feels like a perfect storm of issues.
@Alan-yg6gv6 ай бұрын
I almost clicked off this video because the intro was a little longer than my anxious self could cope with. It I’m glad I stuck with it. I can totally resonate with the way you described GAD. A really helpful video and has calmed me down somewhat already. Thank you.
@harmonymoxham1719 Жыл бұрын
thankyou for your videos. I am a 26 year old who only just got diagnosed with autism a month or so ago. I already suspected I had it but having an official diagnosis has helped. Your videos help me realise I am not alone, and that I'm not a bad person for my autistic symptoms. I'm not trying to say there is anything wrong with being autistic or expressing autistic symptoms, but I have been really badly teased for any stimming behaviour or social awkwardness I express for years. I'm lucky enough to have other friends who are diagnosed who I can talk to, and my housemate has introduced me to other autistic people. Having a community has really helped me. When I was younger, I had severe depression and anxiety. I ended up withdrawing a lot and not wanting to socialise with other people. I tried going to therapy for years, but it didn't help in the way I needed it to. I was always told to just go out and spend time with people in settings I feel safe in. In some ways that has helped, but in other ways it hasn't. I can still feel anxious talking to new people but its been getting better. Now that I am officially diagnosed I can just tell people that I am a little awkward around new people, and might need a little time to warm up to them. being open has helped and I am lucky that most people in my life are understanding. One of my struggles at the moment is having 3 housemates. One of them can be really extroverted and always wants to chat. He is nice and I really like him, but he always wants to chat when I am just about to leave the house to do something, or when I am just getting home and dont have the energy to talk. I don't know how to tell him I like him as a person and like talking to him, but I need space sometimes. Its not personal but sometimes I just physically dont have the energy to talk to anyone, especially really chatty extroverted social people. If anyone could help me find a way to tell him how to tell him I like him but dont feel like talking sometimes without being rude that would be good.
@robertwarbrick75602 жыл бұрын
Hi, Orion. I found your channel through Mom on the Spectrum. I have both social and generalized anxiety. I recently was diagnosed with ASD. I think that the social anxiety stems from executive function and generalized anxiety develops as a result of chronic social anxiety, similar to CPTSD. I feel the difference between ASD related anxiety and anxiety in a neurotypical person is the executive funtion aspect of sensory processing, in compination with spoon theory of energy utilization. Less energy to utilize post scripting/masking/processing. Great vids, btw!
@orionkelly2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob!
@SilverMoonbeam2 Жыл бұрын
Anxiety is a big part of my challenges. Before I even knew anything about autism I ended up with agoraphobia and didn’t leave my home for 3 years. It’s a horrible feeling.
@garyneilson307511 ай бұрын
"hold fast"! (1Thessalonians 5 :21)
@GoAskAlice10TALL10 ай бұрын
Me too 😔❤️🩹 Everyone keeps telling me that I don’t want to do _______, that I could do anything and everything if I wanted to, I’m just choosing not to, I’m making excuses or pretending that I can’t. Truthfully, I get so panicked that I have trouble breathing, feel like I’m going to faint or have a heart attack/stroke when I’ve either forced myself or been cornered into a situation that I already said causes me overwhelming, debilitating anxiety. I’m so alone in this world and so misunderstood. 🥺❤️🩹😥 The more I feel misunderstood, the less I feel secure and unsafe so I become more dysfunctional. 😢 Thank you for listening and allowing me to share some of my struggles. Thank you Orion for the amazing videos 💛🙏🏽 ⭐️
@laurelpowell85366 ай бұрын
I have agoraphobia too.
@OrandaASMR3 жыл бұрын
Comprehensive video! I’m obsessed about the lighting and background 🙌
@orionkelly3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Orenda. Appreciate it. I’m curious about what ASMR is.
@andreaharmon89312 жыл бұрын
@@orionkelly ASMR- autonomous sensory meridian response. It's sort of this huge thing that has exlpoded on KZbin. I personally love watching and hearing the tactile videos of clay cracking and the like. Extremely satisfying for me to watch and hear. Except it would be more satisfying if my hands could actually experience. There are lots of personal takes on ASMR from whispered reading of stories, to clay cracking and shredding objects in a shredder. Basically it's certain auditory sounds that create that tingling sensation, often in the scalp/head area.
@orionkelly2 жыл бұрын
@@andreaharmon8931 thanks so much for explaining!
@andreaharmon89312 жыл бұрын
@@orionkelly thanks for your channel. I discovered last week or so and am binge watching.
@dreaabercrombie2457 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder but yet I was correctly diagnosed with both anxiety disorders you are talking about.... I guess it's more common than I thought.
@neurodivergentNRG Жыл бұрын
Yes 🙌 I have a diagnosis of GAD (anxiety)… anxiety is one of the most highly co-occurring (preferred over co-morbidly) condition of autism!! Autism is sooo complex. I don’t think I’ve met an autistic adult that doesn’t have some sort of co-occurring condition?! 💙
@anttituiskuinenglish16992 жыл бұрын
Omg, thank you for explaining the generalized anxiety(among the other kinds); I'm gonna have to remember to link back to that timestamp when I start getting back out into the world. I do a terrible job at explaining certain things and you did it so well. Thanks!
@scottstarkman6321 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Orion. Thank you for the wonderful and helpful video. I was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) at age 53, and my diagnosed co-morbid conditions are Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). You did a great job of explaining what anxiety is like to the person him- or herself. Even though I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and probably have had it for much or most of my life, sometimes it's hard for me to pinpoint and describe, even to myself, what it actually is like, what it really means, and how it presents itself in my day-to-day life and overall being. Maybe because of having lived with it, for all this time, it just seems to be a part of you, and yet seems to be more elusive in nature, at least to me, even though it's very much there and I have been diagnosed with it. I think it's the same for ASD. Many of the traits and presentations of ASD just seem to be a part of you, for all your life, making life challenging and a struggle in certain very real ways, and why getting a late Autism diagnosis is such a revelation and validation of these struggles and challenges that never had a name or a description, yet were something that we were very often distressed by but which we simply lived with and learned to live with, as it was (and is) just a part of us.
@marthaharkness1733 Жыл бұрын
This is really a good video for me. All of my life I have heightened anxiety over many basic things in my life. The worry and stress brought on is almost unbearable. When I look at others, they appear so calm. I really worry about getting lost when going to a new place, getting up in time for work, upsetting people, making the wrong decision, and any other ordinary experiences or tasks that I need to do on a daily basis. This really explains me and I appreciate it that you break it down.
@adolfohernandez59705 ай бұрын
That thing about the stove burners, yeah, I do that too.
@darragho6358Ай бұрын
Thank you so much, this video helped me so much today. I've been having a borderline anxiety breakdown today and watching this has really helped me
@robynfromcanada3 жыл бұрын
I have those experiences of social anxiety- especially if I have no script for the situation! No thank you, surprise visit with a neighbor! 😅 My father has his own issues. In a group of strangers or acquaintances he will say something too personal, or needlessly controversial. Continually experiencing negative reactions to his social behavior results in anxiety. He needs to build on his empathy skills, so as not to enter (for example) a bible study and announce God does not exist. Opinion: The answer to anxiety is often to consider the underlying issues. Fear of rejection, fear of aggression, PTSD, disconnection from emotional triggers...(it goes on). ❤️
@johnpierce20956 ай бұрын
being 51 going in for my first testing next week, found out at 5 i was diagnosed with autism, but didnt find out till last year , where i work at, its always busy, so i get anexity and stressed out, hard to control emotions , all this is new to me,
@nancyz3755 Жыл бұрын
thank you for helping me at age 67.
@Jeremus7173 ай бұрын
It's so interesting to me that over the course of my life I was diagnosed with several of these different disorders. I have my own opinions about which diagnoses were closest to the mark. Only now in my late forties has autism come to the fore of public awareness. With that context, it's like all of the other overlapping diagnoses suddenly make sense. I've come to feel that the autism is the primary cause, and while I certainly do have some sort of an anxiety disorder, it feels like it rises out of the autistic trait reactions themselves if that makes sense.
@tdc32982 ай бұрын
I am in the spectrum. I also have anxiety too. Thanks for sharing. I feel less alone.
@mariuszwisla3230 Жыл бұрын
I really like how you repeat certain details again, with emphasis. I get a panic attack whenever I begin to consider speaking slower, or slowing down, and the effect, in volume as well, is the opposite. :D If someone takes notice and comments it with “Take it easy”, or similar, it adds even more fuel to the fire, and I rage inside, flat-face on. In UK to get double, or multiple diagnosis, you must be referred for such by your GP. I saw my GP for the first time for whole 5 minutes, and it was my partner (ex now) doing the talking, so I was referred for autism diagnosis only, and I received autism spectrum disorder diagnosis only. But I self-identify as AuDHD, and I have my own range of anxieties, that were not diagnosed as comorbities. What I am not sure if you have experienced ‘acquiring’ or ‘losing’ any, as I did at some point of my life. So: GAD (generalised anxiety disorder) Lasted since I remember till being diagnosed. Then puff and gone. I suppose validation that I am not broken inside dealt the final stroke. DAD (dying anxiety disorder) Since my grandad’s death, when I was 11y.o. I saw him on his deathbed, a week before he moved on. Name is a mix of my sense of humour and an unclassified anxiety disorder, fear of dying, except dying in bed only, or out of feeblessness, when body is old and gives up. But I can fantasize about going seppuku, I even tried once. SAD (social anxiety disorder) Since massive burnout I had shortly before diagnosis, and its intensity increases. I cross the road seeing someone approaching, or turn my head away to avoid looking in their direction if I cannot. It includes everybody less those stickered safe. Imagine going to work, and it is supermarket for me!!! Funny thing is that I actually like talking to some people, like: - kids (now when I am grown up) because they do not show that they notice me being any different to them, as long as I treat them like equal, and talk to them as if they were my peers, they would reciprocate, and they trust me, somehow sensing honesty, and lack of ill-will, - elderly, because I can see myself there one day, and I feel their loneliness. Often, I get a feeling I am the only person they get to talk to today (I work in a supermarket), - all those ‘safe’, if there is any overlap of interest. You can get ‘safe’ sticker if you have survived initial extensive probing for commonalities without biting me in return. It is likely I forgot about some. :P
@johnbillings5260 Жыл бұрын
I totally get the reconnaissance before going outside, etc. 😅
@borninussr72423 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation. I can relate to so much of it.
@whoknewresale Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh it's like you're in my head LOL. Yep the neighbors thing or seeing someone you know at the grocery store oh my goodness terrible. The burners and the double checking the doors yep. I actually put one of my security cameras angled at my stove when I'm away from home so I can make sure I didn't leave it on. It's all the extra stuff on top of regular life stuff that we're keeping track of...
@darbydelane45882 жыл бұрын
Me, too x 100,000,000 on all points. Thank you, Orion. You are a superb and thoughtful speaker and teacher. Your work is important.
@eraaspr1 Жыл бұрын
Hello. I wanted to tell you that I really like people like you talking about autism and other diagnoses. Otherwise it would be hard for me to know as much about myself as I can do, thanks to people talking about the different diagnoses. I have not received an autism diagnose yet but hopefully I will in the future. I am getting kind of a satisfaction out of hearing people talking about these situtations that shows up from a daily bases. I recognize a lot of what you are talking about and it feels good. For me in Sweden, am 55 yo, the wait has been long just to try describing and getting people to understand how I feel. Thank you.
@jeannewhite4591 Жыл бұрын
That was very helpful. It was as good or better than a counseling session. Thank you for your honesty
@mosessupposes257111 ай бұрын
Thank you
@SK-zi3sr9 ай бұрын
I feel like autism can bring social anxiety , not general anxiety tho, that can be about anything. It’s more to do with social interactions and people and stuff, and being uncomfortable, possibly terrifying
@hollycondict7920 Жыл бұрын
How did you handle meeting, courting, and proposing to your wife? Even neurotypical men without anxiety disorders tend to have anxiety in those situations.
@Omneyvdwatering Жыл бұрын
I have a GAD diagnose. I have had it years before my autism diagnose actually. Maybe my autism didn't help, but my GAD comes from how my narcisistic mother treated me. I'm always afraid what i do is not good enough. I'm afraid to fail, i'm afraid to succeed. My kind of anxiety turned out to be treatable with medication and not even a very high dose. I function a lot better now!
@buttercxpdraws81013 жыл бұрын
Hey Orion, eyes 👀 on your sub count! Hitting 1000 very soon 👏🎉😊
@justinacarothers2699 Жыл бұрын
Oh my Goodness 😳 even you talking about the anxiety of YOU possibly interacting with your neighbor gets MY heart racing, makes MY stomach hurt & hard to breath. All full of Anxiety & its not even ME having to deal with them.
@hollyross22522 жыл бұрын
I found your channel looking for the coke bottle effect to share with a friend. (It’s actually how I got my HFA son more accommodations at school.) I quickly subscribed! My son was diagnosed at age 6, and he’s now 11. I love your approach and how you discuss your personal opinions. I can’t wait to watch more and learn. ❤️
@orionkelly2 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful to hear that Holly.
@nitt3rz Жыл бұрын
My social anxiety comes from my inability to think of words & remember things in time to talk to anyone, which causes embarresment & shame; so I try to avoid as much social contact as possible.
@Ashley-om6zo2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been diagnosed with GAD since I was 10 years old but I just got diagnosed with autism and social anxiety at 29. I was just sent on my way after receiving this diagnosis so I have yet to find help for my anxiety. My anxiety is from actual difficulties I’ve faced all my life so all the normal treatments don’t work. I’ve been desperately trying to find any form of support or help
@susanmusson8964 Жыл бұрын
Thank you , Orion.
@unknowntosociety01 Жыл бұрын
Being a social outcast and never being able to integrate is a huge catalyst for my anxiety. I just avoid any group settings that arent mandatory and it makes life kinda miserable not gonna lie
@srldwg Жыл бұрын
😢
@thegamingps51109 ай бұрын
Helped alot understand alot social anexity generalised anexity autism and adhd
@melissamiller2696 Жыл бұрын
EFT/Tapping has been very important in helping me manage symptoms.
@turtleanton6539 Жыл бұрын
Fully agreed
@cre8iveflare Жыл бұрын
I relate to most aspects of nearly ALL of this.
@Specialcot77 Жыл бұрын
❤
@bruceangelis4932 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TristinKing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Orion. I'm currently going through the Autistic diagnosis process (already diagnosed with GAD) and have been finding anxiety is extremely heightened with the uncertainty the process is causing. I feel like an imposter and am very worried what people will think of me. Your candid description of anxiety as an Autistic has given me confidence. Keep up the great work!
@orionkelly3 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful to hear that Tristin. Your experiences are yours and no one can tell you otherwise.
@SG-773 жыл бұрын
I'm going through the same thing right now. I keep researching autism and watching videos, looking for validation because I'm worried I could be wrong despite autism being in my family. I have no one to talk to about it 😕
@TristinKing3 жыл бұрын
@@SG-77 Sorry to hear that Shaz. Hopefully you can find someone to talk to, it certainly helps to get things out of your head sometimes but verbalising them with others.
@SG-773 жыл бұрын
@@TristinKing thank you. Yes I have joined a group on Facebook which helps but it's not the same as having a person to talk to. Hopefully I'll get some answers soon anyway. It doesn't help having to wait so long for a diagnosis.
@winternightmarecrochet2 жыл бұрын
That thing about taking out the trash. I constantly avoid taking it out for fear of running into someone 😅 I certainly don't wanna have to talk to my neighbor cause he was extremely dismissive last time we talked and he probably didn't even realize it so it's not his fault, but now I avoid him like the plague and I always take out the trash and get the mail at ridiculous hours for that reason 😅
@srldwg Жыл бұрын
😂
@loriclark505 Жыл бұрын
I'm autistic and this is how I feel right now anxiety is killing me
@bethanysummers337719 күн бұрын
Im 'neuro typical', (i think!) I came here for my autistic 15 yr old son. The whole social anxiety thing is so me too! I assumed it was my upbringing by my shy mum who was similar, i worry about going to restaurants and sitting at table settings and the small talk with the background noises, i absolutely hate it and sometimes get a headache and just want to go home. I feel so awkward. I dont understand how people find that type of social situations enjoyable tbh. Ive heard we all have some level of autistic traits at various levels? I also have to check things multiple times and have tidy work spaces...
@rahowherox11772 жыл бұрын
I had not experienced anxiety or fear for 20 years .. but when I finally did:, it got ugly and I went a bit nuts. Scared people... mates and family
@rahowherox11772 жыл бұрын
I do well socially... but have avoided old mates and family because my memory starts rolling and can overwhelm me... esp when it's multiple old friends. And my decision making suffers and I say inappropriate things from the past.. scare people with the details and amount I can remember...
@rahowherox11772 жыл бұрын
Esp females... I feel they may think I'm obsessed.
@HeatherLandex Жыл бұрын
I think I can be like you or like your son depending on my mood. I have more issue when any interactions would be in my second language. I go quiet which in itself is uncomfortable for me. Going to the bins or a quick task... I didn't want to have to interact, speak or be caught out in my plan for a quick this or that. Not sure if it's PDA. I don't like small talk although I'm ok at it, I'd rather have a full chat. But not if I'm trying to quickly do anything. Probably something like it not going as I planned. Definitely not about the neighbours.
@lachlanmacbeth623 Жыл бұрын
I am autistic myself
@9monava2 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying this. However, the changing lights in the background are really bothering me. Just an FYI.
@jamesgeary42948 ай бұрын
I'm basically you and my six year old daughter is your son when it comes to social interaction. She's drawn. I'm repulsed. So when we're out I have constant anxiety that she'll talk to someone random and draw me into the interaction.
@divinelotus19 Жыл бұрын
Vacate Fear on KZbin is amazing. That man is amazing in helping your own anxiety.
@olderandwiser3332 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I've had GAD all my life. My term has always been 'free floating dread'. As mentioned in my comment on another of your videos, I'm almost 69 and don't have a diagnosis of autism, just a very strong suspicion that I am. Of course, at this stage I've developed a lot of coping and masking traits, but man the exhaustion is chronic. Today was a rough one. I spent a lot of it listening to YT videos of cats purring. Don't laugh, it actually helps a lot. But I'm finding your videos helpful as well because you have a very down to earth way of explaining it all and it's extremely validating for someone who has never had any outside support of any kind. Thank you.
@orionkelly2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@divinelotus19 Жыл бұрын
There's videos for that. Dang I'm missing out. I'm gonna check it out.
@bobsoldrecords1503 Жыл бұрын
I have GAD and CPTSD.
@heedmydemands Жыл бұрын
Cool shirt
@natalierochon10 ай бұрын
my autism is so debilitating i'm always scared everywhere i go i feel like criminals and the government are after me i always feel like i'm being watched and not in a good way
@jaymccarthy766 Жыл бұрын
I am currently in my new home and feel bit down in the dumps. My anxiety has really lead me nearly to suicide and is very upsetting and draining to live with even to take a walk to the shop. I live in supported accommodation so the support workers expect me to go out and engage in acitivites but them telling me this is making me feel bad and even worse. I kind of feel guilt at the moment my head is all over the place. My anxiety is always making me feel like I could die and I never do, it this vicious cycle. I feel like this is really challenging living with this and I feel so humiliated and embarrassed. People have to go to the shop for me because I worry that I could have a public meltdown or the people that I am walking to shop with will be non understanding and make my anxiety worse. People do make it worse for me by saying "calm down," "find something to do" people dictating to me and telling me how to live my life and trying to put thoughts in my head that going out and making friends, finding a romantic partner will help me but this is all just putting me down and making me feel bad. I wish this would stop
@mitch52224 ай бұрын
Same. How do u feel now?
@jaymccarthy7664 ай бұрын
@@mitch5222 hello 👋 kinda the same really and I’m sorry your going through the same bs
@Alexia-rq3mj Жыл бұрын
Having GAD as part of my autism is exhausting.. Even though there might not be anything to be worried about my brain is always searching for something because just because I don't see it there definitely is Something! It's incredibly tiring and I can't turn it off no matter how ridiculous I know it is.
@jaredrice90892 жыл бұрын
I have autism and schizophrenia i have a hard time telling my day program when I dont fill good i have a hard time talking to people I bugs me
@urmom69420. Жыл бұрын
i'm diagnosed with asd and i kind of relate to all these things. but, even if there was something more going on, i would never tell my therapist. i'm scared that maybe i'm just overexagarating things and what if i don't have it? then i'll look dumb and they will think i'm just seeking attention and trying to fake things. i'm just now realizing, that that thought, also may be a symptom. anyone got any advice?
@loriclark505 Жыл бұрын
I'm autistic have generalized anxiety social anxiety panic disorder
@srldwg Жыл бұрын
😢
@turtleanton6539 Жыл бұрын
Ouch
@Ionic457 Жыл бұрын
epic
@anjachan2 жыл бұрын
I have probably general anxiety ... ocd probably too lol.
@loriclark505 Жыл бұрын
Help
@Blingnoodle Жыл бұрын
3:35 "80% - 85% of autistic adults have been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder" not only is there no link to the research paper this comes from but i googled and there are so many different procentages out there so its most likely not true the highest procentage i could find was 40% to 50%. Dont blindly believe people when they say numbers always do a check if they made it up!
@marymyers47512 жыл бұрын
We care too much! let just sat whatever
@maryelizabeth65111 ай бұрын
I Have a diagnosis with ASD autism spectrum disorder ADHD anxiety pthd 🫢🫢😳😳