ORIS Big Crown ProPilot X - Shanghai Launch and Interview with CEO

[@BarkandJack]

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[@sofrech1991]

-4 / +6 seconds per day is indeed within COSC specs, which is even more impressive over the watch's 10-day power reserve.

[@tailsfromthepast7432]

I feel like Oris is definately one of the brands to deserve more recognition.

[@JamesBardolphCS]

This holding value nonsense is going to ruin the watch market. Buy for love not for value. If you're concerned about resale value, surely you are buying the wrong watch in the first place.

[@jcwatches6573]

JamesBardolphCS if you’re concerned about resale value you buy second hand a save 40-50%. It’s something to be aware of and it is important because many buyers may want to sell on in the future whether they intend to or not.

[@glennlines8847]

Instead wait a year and you will buy one for around $2500

[@markplayford5836]

JamesBardolphCS Hear hear, buy with your heart because you love it.

[@leeharding8306]

Wise words. Have you noticed no one talks about quality just resale values. It's very boring 💤

[@avlpe7662]

@@leeharding8306 It's oversized, not that good quality, and (way) too expensive, and of course that price tag is going to shock people..

[@bugsymalone1660]

I have a major soft spot for Oris, a great watch company well worth championing.

[@BarkandJack]

Me too, they really come across as an honest company. I have a lot of time for them. Thanks for watching.

[@alexanderv.8961]

Oris is garbage. Plain and simple. Stop pushing this trash, you damn sellout.

[@bugsymalone1660]

Alexander Vic I’ve got an Oris watch , I bought it pre owned at a much reduced price and I am impressed by the quality and robustness of the watch. I own other brands and I am not in the market for a $7500 Oris I admit, but I’d stop short “some way short”, actually of ever describing the brand as garbage. Bremont also gets it in the neck from you in your comments & whilst I will concede it’s not a brand I do or am ever likely to consider purchasing, I wouldn’t call it garbage either, if we’re going to have a handful of brands that are deemed acceptable & the fifty or so companies beneath them marked down as rubbish then watch appreciation & innovation of horology is doomed Alexander. It’s not that I don’t think garbage exists, it’s that Oris aren’t that , it’s not escaped me that in life there are people who like to look down on others & take a shit on them if the perceive that their watch choices mark them out as the “lesser”, but it’s that mindset that really is garbage............not Oris.

[@Watchlover371]

Alexander Vic thanks for calling a spade a spade. This is an expensive watch launched by a sub par company - it’s almost Rolex money!! Absolutely incredible. The movement isn’t even in house and the 10 day power reserve is crap - for the last two days of that its +4/-6 a day!! Wtf

[@dufusfinder9771]

@@Watchlover371 what? The whole point of launching this watch is to showcase their “in-house” movement!

[@polarismarketingdesign5120]

I appreciate how you can give an honest review even when you receive a free round trip ticket to an awesome event. This is how the channel will grow and why people will trust/respect what you do. Good luck!

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks so much mate. I appreciate you taking the time to say that. 👍🏻

[@TheRunningManZ]

“More interesting than a Submariner....” Flies home to his two Submariners! ;)

[@jimbegin6554]

I don’t normally like skeleton watches, but this is a killer! Brilliant bracelet too. Oris is making waves!

[@roochmartinez102]

This is a watch for the guy who doesn't want to be the 4th or 5th guy with a Rolex sub at the business conference.

[@FirestormAA]

Oris is my very first love into horology, will alway hv Oris timepieces in my collection.

[@DeusNyx]

Megatron wants his watch back. It's gorgeous... absolutely gorgeous. But at $7k, it's in the big boy league. You can pick up a second hand sub for similar price and it will hold its value for many years, whereas this might not. Oris 65 holds its value well. It's one watch that surprised everyone, and a nice little investment. I just hope this does the same as the 65. But it's sharp angles might not be to everyone's tastes.

[@316mathew]

by all means in this price range i would go zenith defy

[@jaseb0001]

That is exactly what i said too and Zenith is a "better" brand

[@lifematch]

but 10 days power reserve? you are paying for that.

[@dufusfinder9771]

@@jaseb0001 Zenith isn’t an independent brand like Oris.

[@jackkairos4726]

I’m thinking this will be half the price at grey market dealers next year. Still, way too big for me at 44mm.

[@phmwu7368]

Aimed at Asian market...

[@bnick25352535]

i have a Oris small second which is 46mm and fits nice on my 7inch wrist.so 44mm titanium should be fine.

[@GeorgeFrideric71]

Still the twice price of what it should be. The finishing looks like that of a Seiko 5 movement.

[@bugsymalone1660]

Yes I agree with you there, the brand doesn’t offer value retention for the first owner but it offers a hell of a lot of watch to the second owner for the money, I own one & my experience of it wouldn’t hamper Mervin buying another.

[@juanmendiola3078]

I have seen and held it in person and can tell you this watch does not look or feel cheap. To compare it to a seiko is just ludicrous. Btw, for its size it actually wears very small.

[@bruck177]

Interesting final few points from Adrian: - If Oris can come out with a BB58 competitor - Improve accuracy to be COSC certified - Reduce price Then Oris may have a winner… Now in April-2022 the 39mm Propilot X is released, checking off all the boxes! Hopefully you get a chance to share your thoughts on the updated version

[@lukefromtonight]

Bloody hell the editing somehow just keeps getting better and better. Very glad you were given the opportunity to go on this trip!

[@avlpe7662]

He was essentially getting paid a fair bit for this review, so he put extra effort in...

[@johnvsbear4247]

Personally i love how the clasp grows in size again, from the tapered down bracelet. The looseness of the bracelet is concerning, but has to be experienced in person. To me it really looks like a concept drawing fearlessly executed.

[@jaysilverstone7221]

The watch I'd like to get my brother for his 60th. Exceptional - Funky Elegance. Superb video, great music, real journalism.

[@PhilipWing]

Wait a second, +6 and -4 is the exact cosc standard. So it technically IS a cosc standard! Great piece. Clasp reminds me of an airplane seatbelt. Very cool aesthetic.

[@Semach]

I’m honestly impressed with Oris. Skeleton watches are not my thing. But I’m impressed that instead of just resting on vintage inspired diver after vintage inspired diver, the put soo much energy into the design of something so bold and different. The price is high, but justified that they had to do so much RnD. Just like Omegas new $48,000 titanium movement aqua terra, it’s expensive to try something new.... glad you enjoyed your trip Adrian!

[@markmcdonnell]

So good to see you making the type of progress you had hoped for the channel (e.g. being able to get invites like this and reporting back)

[@NikonFM2n]

ORIS was here in Miami this last Thursday for our RedBar meet-up.

[@u.u.upatreonrequests8679]

FINALLY!! A watch that looks like 2020

[@hombrealagua]

Adrian, great you're there and met Rolf and the watch. I think it's an awesome bold watch!... and Oris's Attitude and approach to things is admirable. I'm wearing a BB58 while watching your video and I understand your remarks and observations, but I actually could see myself having the X. It reminds me a little bit to the IWC GST PC ref. 3756-03 in the way that it uses a "conventional" body or model and re-thinks it completely with a high complication and "sportive" look. Congrats to Oris!

[@timgreen6952]

Great video. Love Oris, but would honestly buy a Zenith Defy if I was looking for a modern / technical piece like this. Looking forward to seeing what’s next though!

[@kevrunsascott]

Ive never been a fan of Skelton watches....but there is something about this. Abit industrial! Im glad you're showing the Oris love. Very underrated in my opinion!

[@samuelball8775]

Cheers for the review and 1st look. Great that they invited you along to the launch. Really nice piece. I think it looks spot on - bracelet looks great too. If anything the propilot 41mm case would suit me a little better but its still a great watch.

[@Mark..P]

Another great review. I have to say I have seen a couple of reviews on this and I have slowly fallen in love with it. The price is still a sting (for the brand), but not for the watch if that makes sense. As for getting people like yourself involved, hands on, makes sense. You were very measured by the way 😁

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks Mark.

[@itsallrobbish]

Oris is very impressive at the moment. I think this timepiece is wonderful, a real coup for this forward looking firm.

[@gyang333]

Hey, only 40 people got invited and you were one of them, that's a pretty select group to be among!

[@BarkandJack]

I don’t know why I was included. But I’m happy to be the wildcard. 👍🏻

[@joninawhitecoat]

@@BarkandJack maybe they assumed you make decent coffee. ;)

[@avlpe7662]

@@BarkandJack They wanted their fingers in all the pies, and you as a KZbin 'influencer', and a safe bet for them (unlike Archie, who is currently whinging that you went and not him), particularly as until recently you were a marketing manager..

[@mt24Carson]

Well done video and what a great opportunity for you and the channel. Your hard work is paying off. Look forward to see what Or is has in store for next year.... 👍⌚☕

[@craigriley9892]

I love this watch. Never got to try one on, yet, but the look and power reserve have me hooked.

[@billbochnak2898]

Really glad you were part of the release, really looking forward to seeing if ORIS makes a future steel version and incorporates some of the tighting up you mentioned, if that helped drive the price to Tudor BB ballpark, be a really interesting and compelling offering, maybe a Basel offering in the next few years. Safe travels, hope you have a great trip to the States and enjoy RBG meet up. Thanks again for the great content. Cheers A

[@1018Frankie]

I love the design and the movement, they are thinking out of the box! They are ahead of the bunch!

[@geezer8294]

So, it wasn't Ginault that you were visiting :)

[@LegitBobsYourUncle]

Are they the fake Rolex guys?

[@alexanderv.8961]

No, this time he got paid by Oris

[@mb-watches]

Awesome review buddy and still; missing China. Bad coffee but awesome tea which is definitely worth a try. Enjoy your stay and be happy you arrived in September, July/ August is far more humid and hot 😁🙏🏻👍🏻

[@showbiz3848]

You mentioned Tudor. And infact the industrial finishing of the caliber 115 in the "X" reminds me of the caliber MT5621 inside the Tudor "North Flag".

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Great content! Love the channel, you’re killing it Adrian! I personally loveee this watch!! Keep it up my man!

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks so much mate. 🍻

[@nhayes927]

do you think the price makes sense?

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Charles Bronson - yes I do, it took 10 years to develop this watch in addition to all the efforts Oris has been making to become a better brand. If Rolex was on the dial, people would be willing to pay 30K+

[@nhayes927]

@@SoCalWatchReviews that watch is not finished as nicely as a tudor with an in house movement costing half as much

[@nhayes927]

the tudor is also cosc certified

[@jarodstevens2710]

Adrian outstanding video sir as usual you didn't pull any punches and also presented a fair review which is exactly why they invited you I love Oris I really like this watch now on to more important things need to be getting on to them leather straps man really trying to wait LOL

[@a3marketing991]

It looks awesome. I want one.

[@garethmoore2123]

I tried it on yesterday in Zurich... I found the fit really nice but the sensation of such a light watch disturbed me a little

[@chrisalbanese1347]

The buckle evokes an airplane seat belt buckle

[@gratefulot360]

Way too big for me, but I look forward to what ORIS has in store for next year. Love the industrial vibe of the movement.

[@Manaz101]

I've thought the same about Oris and how awesome it would be if they had an in house movement in their divers line. Owning the green dial Oris 65, I LOVE what Oris is doing and have to restrain myself from building just an Oris collection. At the end of the day, I truly hope this is a positive step for Oris and great brand retention and notoriety. 💪💪💪💪 it Oris!!!!!

[@robplant8601]

got to have some hands on time with the Big crown today , even put on the VR goggles with a inside view of the watch , love the movement with a 10 day reserve , Beautiful. but not for me it appeared little too industrial . look forward to seeing more from Oris

[@noelmurphy3450]

Thanks for the review Adrian 👍👍

[@NickP081]

Would the movement allow for smaller watches as well? As in, could Oris put this new movement in a smaller case?

[@BarkandJack]

Let’s hope so.

[@kingjgregory]

I'm really liking the look of this watch. That is an astoundingly cool looking bracelet too.

[@philippreutter4885]

Screw the value retention! This watch is for someone who realy loves the design, the brand and the approach oris is doing here. It is like a car manufacturer producing a supercar, just to show what they are able to do. I don‘t love everything about the design, but i respekt oris for the bold move and i donˋt think the price is too high for such an avantgard watch. Great content, as allways. Nice they picked you.

[@aromaticsnail]

Not surprised being In Shanghai. Many don't realise that the reason why they are in waiting lists is due to the huge demand in Asia, specifically in China. Love the bracelet and the clasp. Would be nice if Oris released a non-squeletenized version.

[@johnhjic2]

What a real fair sound review. Looks to have been an amazing trip...

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks for watching John. 👍🏻

[@johnhjic2]

@@BarkandJack I enjoy have a coffee and leaning about watch and your tourbillon video I have seen tow or four time so good. I have a small collection nothing as grand as your watches but may be one day. www.flickr.com/photos/johnhjic/albums/72157710763026648

[@ckitcummings]

Hats off to the Oris CEO for making himself so available. I know its in his interest but still. Big fan of Oris and what they’ve been doing over the last few years. Im not a fan of skeleton watches. I find them fussy and thus not a fan of this. Love the view from the caseback. Could watch that for hours. Great review.

[@Vidar.m]

I would get that oris if i could. Looks amazing

[@BLEEMQ]

good for Oris, thinking ahead, the watch is unequivocal, it makes a bold statement and the cal 115! this is the right direction

[@jw.2507]

Adrian, happy for your channel's success. Keep growing, we are here with you Mr. Rodent 2.0 lmao cheers !

[@BarkandJack]

Haha, cheers mate.

[@casillasb]

Hey Adrian! Thanks for sharing your travel experience with us! Have been intrigued by Oris as a mid-range brand for a long time and have considered the Aquis as a beater,. Basically have loved the idea of Oris, but never purchased one. The originality of this piece is cool...not my style either, but they’ve definitely put it out there with their own in-house movement. I suppose the value is there, but that’s a lot to spend on an Oris. Thanks for the great content and much continued success! Let us know what your plans are for New York!!!

[@nhayes927]

the value isnt there though

[@and187a]

Just wondering whether there is a real demand for a 10 day power reserve yet manual wind watch in this futuristic style.. Also I would have changed the bezel for a smooth one but then it would be too much of a Defy look-alike..

[@carlhaluss]

Love your video, and will look at more in the future. Personally, I am mesmerized by this watch, and was fortunate enough, yesterday, to apparently be the first customer in Canada to purchase one. Normally, I am a Diver 65 kind of guy, and I own two, but I just love watches in all shapes, sizes and configurations. I love what I call the "industrial" look of this watch, and how Oris achieved it by having absolutely no polished surfaces anywhere, on case, bracelet or movement. The main attraction for me, however, is the human interaction one has with the watch. For me a skeleton watch has to me a manually wound movement. Having the huge mainspring and large power reserve indicator visible when winding and seeing the movement come to life is simply grand. Without any date function or other complications, it allows all the parts to be more visible. Well, I could ramble on forever about this watch. Funny thing is that, barely two weeks ago, I picked up a Zenith A384 Revival watch from the very same AD (a favorite AD, Time & Gold here in Vancouver), a perfect reissue of a vintage watch. Now, here I am with the latest, most up-to-date, beautifully engineered modern watch! By the way, I love the Rolex Explorer 1 36mm like your's, and it is the only watch I have ever regretted selling. I totally understand your love of that one. Cheers, Carl

[@tiagocarvalho6257]

Great video Adrian. The size is a deal breaker for most people. Apart from that, very nice looking piece.

[@Thomas_Burnett]

Phirstly, Congratulations on passing the 60k subscribers mark Adrian! Good on Oris for designing something different. I don’t want to see another Black Bay homage. ✊

[@SimulatorWhiz]

Firstly*

[@youMerlinator]

Love the skeletonized movement. I love how the light is reflected on the bracelet, witch is quite impressive. I'm interested in looking at it in boutique.

[@micheldebrou6707]

I love it :) something new and daring :) was almost at the point buying a big crown and then this came in front of me :) and sorry 4100 euro is not a bad price for a new watch :)

[@AGWatchesAndGear]

Beautiful Oris. I did not personally like their designs but this one is a new chapter for them imo. Bracelet could have been finished a little better though.

[@sumgiantsfan]

I like everything about it but the bracelet... going to their website to check it out on the strap.

[@CanadianBeachcomber]

Not only was this video well done, I got a much better sense of what this watch is all about. I might have to take back my initial impression and comment on your website. Thanks.

[@LCRider13]

I saw this watch at an AD yesterday. Beautiful watch and wears smaller than 44mm.

[@mikecosslett1421]

I love oris as a watch company there value and quality are amazing but this new oris isnt for me to big and skeletonised but the movement is awsome 👍

[@cartergjenkins]

Seems more like an Oris concept style watch and one that may lead to more interesting launches in the future.

[@tomroutledge8900]

"more sophisticated than a sub"...with that fugly clasp that says "LIFT" on it LOL

[@ryan_henderson]

Wait a sec, it’s a 12 day power reserve so when the indicator gets to 0 there’s 2 days reserve in the tank? What’s the point of that? If they’re making such a big deal about the movement and 10 days, why not state the full 12 days? That doesn’t make any sense or am I missing something?

[@z00h]

"That doesn’t make any sense" - legend has it, this is their marketing catch phrase for this watch.

[@macblack82]

Oris’s next move will be an in house powered Aquis with minor design updates, putting it in direct competition with Black Bays and Seamasters but with a modern twist.

[@drwindsurf]

This is a really interesting looking watch. I am not a fan of the bracelet but for me the real stopper is what else can I get at this price point? I know you mentioned a few brands but I think I would rather have a number of Omegas or GSs before the ProPilot...and save a bit of money...but I agree this is a fantastic move for Oris. Fantastic review, thank you Adrian.

[@fattyharrybasset]

Gotta say, it looks good on you mate. Loving the bracelet and clasp, but I too wish it were a little smaller. And cheaper lol. Great release from Oris though, they are probably the most proactive and innovative of the established Swiss brands right now.

[@JaredThompsonvideo]

I think Oris is a 2k watch and the best way to get me to think Oris is a 4k watch at Basel next year is to release an 7k watch with a big splash now. Kinda like a cost+ to value-based move to me. I’m excited to see where Oris takes this! Solid video too.

[@bensetter7894]

I like it. Excited where the movement could be put in. I would wear it!

[@jazzbeaunola]

Great video, Adrian, of a beautiful new piece from an admirable company. I know it's pilot-inspired, but I find myself wishing it were more middle of the road size-wise. Maybe down the road...

[@kasperkongstad7635]

Not gonna lie, this has a “Fossil” vibe

[@jaydunluan7095]

LOL

[@gerrycorrance4025]

No mention that this is a hand wind, not an automatic, movement. How long to wind the full 10 days reserve?

[@stuartcarden5402]

Love the Fuji X70 on the table. I really miss that camera. I should never have sold it.

[@BarkandJack]

It’s my main watch photography camera. It’s old, but great.

[@hgabi00]

I would love to see a video of the oris propilot x calibre 400, its smaller brother from you.

[@edwardsauve4836]

Looks traditional and modern at the same time I really like the bezel the angle of each facet , looks great .

[@karasus7512]

AWESOME Adrian is leveling up!

[@TouchofFlairCards]

You can see Adrian doing the mental arithmetic on how many business class flights he'll be able to wrangle off manufacturers while describing the launch as "interesting". I'm really impressed by the watch - the only two things I don't like (3 if you included the price, which I feel is too high even though there's a lot going on in terms of design and movement), is the size and that clasp.

[@michaelwalton470]

Nice to see them looking ahead to potential changes in tastes. Pleased they are doing in-house movements too. Not my thing but nice to see a brand not standing still. Well done Oris.

[@robertnorth1681]

Oris has several in house movements. 110 -114. All are in a similar price range and most if not all have the 10 day power reserve. Hoping over time the price drops.

[@leyay7540]

Cal. 110-115 are a family with just different additional functions.

[@robertnorth1681]

I think they like to position this by saying that they learn from each one and then apply those learnings to the next.

[@leyay7540]

@@robertnorth1681 That's true. I quite like these series of movements and watches. I haven't got them just because they don't suit my small wrist (but I don't blame Oris for that).

[@DenisHauser]

Cool trip, looking forward to more vlogs of it.

[@SaKeBoMbE]

Great content! i really like Oris. im a fan of what they have been dong. This ProPilot X is a nice change of pace in the watch world and for them. I also admire the fact that Oris isnt really concerned with what other watch brands are doing or what the trends are. I am excited to see where they go in the coming years and what new pieces they have for us in the future.

[@saulysw]

It is certainly different and interesting. Good to see them evolving the brand. Nice too for you to get a free trip out of it, quite a perk. Even better if they let you have a watch too.

[@Rosay__]

Thanks for sharing. Agree with your POV generally. Safe travels to the US...

[@verykeen2please]

ORIS simply best value for your money

[@BarkandJack]

I agree.

[@evh4611]

ORIS is really going places

[@pilotstyle123]

I wholeheartedly congratulate Rolf, at least in my perception Oris has elevated itself from one of many generic brands in the sub 2k range to the leader of the pack. I hope we will see more inhouse and innovation in a more subtle design in the future. Skeletons are not my thing but I get why they did it.

[@rsaumeii]

Liked it. Didn't love it. For $3k more you get a zenith defy el primero 21 skeleton

[@preston5848]

And for 2k less you can get a Zenith Defy Skeleton. Wouldn't even be a question which one I would pick.

[@balance3201]

Seems copying zenith a little

[@doublekevyks7249]

Бојан Павловић how’s defy being a terrible watch? I think it looks amazing, power reserve is not the only thing that matters.

[@rsaumeii]

@@doublekevyks7249 power reserve is a little bit overrated I think. Focusing on the skeleton subject, the whole defy collection is better looking than this oris. And that clasp....I don't know.

[@michaelbishop9157]

@@БојанПавловић-е3й zenith has all the heritage and it's a genuine in house movement vs a modfied ETA. Much better value than this Oris

[@ABCTEST213]

That metal bracelet looks Amazing!!!

[@instablaine2024]

Good review. I tried the watch on at an event today. I was impressed. Not my style but cool. Very, very light!

[@tantu2395]

Good design as the looks busy dial but easy to read on the large 44mm diameter, more interesting things is with the design of bezel and the bracelet that for the large 44mm dial is go so well and make a perfect fit even with a small wrist size men. Not showy, but looks cool 😎.

[@Meowdegger]

Really love that bracelet! Not a huge fan of the fact that the clasp flairs out but that's just a minor niggle. Love the watch! Way to big for my tiny wrist though.

[@vdbdg]

It would be perfect in your collection along with the Quartz GS. Add a Hublot and you got the winning combo.

[@ryancurry5284]

Hell yeah, Adrian. Great content in this one. Informative. The watch, love Oris. Love my Aquis. The quality for cost is incredible. That being said, The cost on this watch is prohibitive. I don’t think Oris’s target market is going to spring for this piece, and those that have the scratch to do so, likely aren’t looking at Oris anyways. their eyes are on the bigger boys (Rolex...). Oris sells well at around 2k or under.

[@nhayes927]

exactly

[@andrestenstrup1042]

If the watch runs -4 to + 6 sec it is COSC spec. But the thing is that it should be able to stay within that range for 4 - 5 years to prove very higth quality an not just for 2 - 3 years. We will see i the future. About the size. Most people will get use to it, but the very good tjing is that is it titanium. It must feel lite, and because og the size if it is being worn a little tight, then you properly won´t feel the size at all. But you can see it. a 12 days full powerreserve where it proberly runs very stabile the first 10 days is remarcebel. Perhaos if the make it run 2,5 HZ and not 3 hz, thy can get it to run for 10 days but have a 40 - 42 mm case instead.

[@kutark]

Design feels very Fighter Jet-esque. I quite like it. I'm not huge on skeletonized so I would love to see a more traditional dial with this movement and perhaps some polished bits on the case for some contrast, but yeah overall I like it.