Oris Watches: Caliber 110 and the Rise of a Noble Brand

[@h111551]

Dear Bill: Oris is an example of a watch brand that is likely under appreciated. Our two college aged children are each getting an Oris watch for Christmas as an introduction to Swiss mechanical watches. In addition to their new in house movement, Oris has some interesting and worthwhile watches with attractive real world pricing. I was in a very quality AD earlier today who unselfconsciously offered Oris and Hamilton in addition to Rolex, Tudor, Omega, Grand Seiko, IWC, Hublot and Breitling. Oris watches are well executed and meet the needs and tastes of people who are attracted to sound design, quality and a brand with a long history at an affordable price. Their in house movements indicate an Oris commitment to moving forward in a new and thoughtfully considered step forward for the brand. Thanks for highlighting Oris in your video as a brand of which more people should take notice. Best regards, Howard

[@watchartsci]

As usual Howard, you put it clearly and precisely. (I won't say a word to your kids about how lucky they're going to be this Christmas!) Kindest regards, Bill

[@Stero0258]

The nonlinear power reserve is displaying the amount of power remaining from 10 days to zero. The notches representing the days are placed close together at the top of the scale, and further apart at the bottom. As power is released, the hand moves around the scale - slowly at first, and then more quickly as the notches become more spread out.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Robert, yes, that is correct. I was simply wondering why it was referred to as non-linear instead of a retrograde....because during winding, the PRI goes back to the top. I see your point, though, the indices are at irregular intervals. Thanks, I didn't seem to think so; I'll have another look. Kindest regards, Bill

[@johndoe-ln4oi]

Great video, as always, Bill! You have given me a newfound respect for Oris and I appreciate it.

[@watchartsci]

Hi John! After I learned that Oris was forced to make nothing but quartz watches while under the yoke of Swatch, I felt really bad for them, and given how they've had to fight an up-hill battle on their own, I too have a higher opinion of the brand. Kindest regards, Bill

[@kkolsen2001]

Very informative - before this video I only knew that Oris is a respected 'value' brand with some horological history. I appreciate your thorough review of the history of the brand and their current offerings. Keep up the good work!

[@watchartsci]

Hey Kurt, thanks man! Kindest regards, Bill

[@cnaarndt]

Hi Bill, As you know, being a very recent (two months) fan of your videos, I just viewed this overview on Oris last evening. Great job! As we've previously discussed, Oris is a brand I've liked and admired since 1983 when I first saw their watches on a trip to Hong Kong. I recently got my wife a Ladies Big Crown Pointer Date Two-Tone (steel and rose gold) with a white face. She loves the watch and it's replaced her 20-year old Tudor Monarch as her go to watch. She reciprocated and got me an Oris Rectangular Complication for my birthday. I'm just waiting on the blue alligator leather strap with deployant clasp to arrive as the polished stainless steel bracelet is too prone to scratches. This is my preferred casual sports/dress watch when I don't want to wear my Reverso.

[@watchartsci]

Curtis, to be frank, Oris was a pleasant surprise for me. I was especially impressed with their manufactured movement. Cheers, Bill

[@cnaarndt]

Yes, I knew I liked the Oris brand, but I had nothing to really definitive to back up my like other than the elegance of their round steel and gold moon phase watches from decades ago. Recently I've been intrigued by their Big Crown Pro Pilot Small Second GMT, but at 45mm it was just to big even for my wrist and hand. I had to rule it out as there are now too many other and better watches on my wish list. One of them being the Nomos Zurich World Time we discussed.@@watchartsci

[@lawrencewaite4407]

Hi Bill I have a Oris Aquis diver date on a steel bracelet but I have an Orange rubber strap that I use when I move down to Spain in May through till August great time keeper wears nice on the beach ,very comfortable steel bracelet and a good clasp ,really nice to hear someone give a bit of credit to Oris instead of constant criticism

[@watchartsci]

Hi Lawrence, Oris has a lot going for it, including the fact that they're honest about the movements used in their watches, and their prices reflect that. Kindest regards, Bill

[@j.r.regenold9094]

Hi Bill ... my wife has an Oris pointer-date. It's really a nice watch. She bought it 2nd hand here in Saigon. She put an SS band on it, because the leather was already getting the "Saigon Strap Disease". It looks good and timekeeping is pretty good.

[@watchartsci]

Hi JR, your wife has a cool watch with the pointer date. Does it have an arrow or crescent tip? Rubber, textile and metal seem to be the choice straps for Saigon. Kindest regards, Bill

[@j.r.regenold9094]

It's the crescent shape pointer, I really like the look. There is a similar men's watch of same vintage that I would like to find here ...

[@davidfulginiti5985]

Bill, thanks for your vids, purchased an Oris for my bride a few years back and It only watch she wears. she dresses it up for night wear and down for the office. Keep up the great work!

[@watchartsci]

Hey David thanks man! Glad to hear your bride put it to good use! Cheers, Bill

[@emanuelestuder2885]

I own myself an Oris Aquis,very robust and good looking watch.Very good value for money. Thanks for your video.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Emanuele, I agree that it's unnecessary to pay crazy amounts for good solid watches. Kindest regards, Bill

[@davidwanstall]

Hi Bill, they call the power reserve indication non-linear because the scale is non-linear, it shows much more detail for the last remaining days of power than for the first ones.

[@watchartsci]

Hey David, thanks man! I just saw it as a retrograde, but you're right! It is also non-linear...and you get the red warning. Kindest regards, Bill

[@nssomething8370]

I wonder if the non linear nature of the power reserve is due to the fact that it is a single barrel and differences in torque will mean less accuracy/power as it unwinds.

[@davidwanstall]

There is certainly less power leading to some accuracy issues when the mainspring is almost completely uncoiled, but I think the non-linear indication is because it is far more useful to know whether you have 0.5 or 0.75 days left rather than 9.5 or 9.75.

[@digggert]

@@davidwanstall David you are spot on. I remember reading about it back when the caliber was first released. A very cool detail are the two snail-shaped cogs on the left. A classic differrential gearing,(needed for a reserve indicator) together with these two complex gears achieve the non-linear display since the transmission ratio constantly changes as those snail-shaped gears turn.

[@digggert]

A cool topic to cover and well deserved considering the work Oris put into this. It is also impressive that they claim to be - concerning this movement - almost completely independent of suppliers that belong to large watch companies.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Diggert, yes, they've really done a good job, and I think as much as possible they want to systematically build their own capacity to make movements. It's rough, but judging from their first manufactured movement in almost 40 years, I think they're on the right path. Kindest regards, Bill

[@johnk.l.5518]

Great video Bill! Oris is one of my fav brands. I have two, a diver and a pilot. Really can't go wrong with them. Glad they've started to produce their own movements! Keep up the good work! 👍

[@theartistformallyknownasdi5338]

Really enjoyed your vid. I've owned the pointer date you used to illustrate the crescent pointer for about 20 years, despite owning "better" watches it's one of my favourites.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Artist! Thanks man! I'm the same way; my favorite watches are not my most expensive nor most complicated. My favorites are the simpler ones. (I'd be happy to have a Dufour Simplicity....) Cheers, Bill

[@rezasoheil]

Great review, Oris 110 is a great movement

[@watchartsci]

Yes, Reza, I quite agree! Oris really opened a door when they began the 110 series. Kindest regards, bill

[@almeladze]

At 7 minutes - it's called a non-linear power reserve because the gauge is not broken up into equal segments and the indicator follows accordingly

[@Bad_Rattle]

I picked up the Williams Engine on a bracelet a week ago and I absolutely love it.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Bad Rattle! The perfect watch for a car guy! Congratulations! Cheers, Bill

[@SimonFanProductions]

Oris calls it nonlinear on the base caliber 110 because of the two "worm gears" as shown on the left side of the movement. It has an asymmetrical intercalation of teeth that gives a nonlinear indication on the dial side.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Simon, thanks man! And I just thought it was a retrograde...thanks for the update! Kindest regards, bill

[@soon-jaekwon6672]

You are right. Oris just released thier new inhouse automatic movement.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Soon-jae! That line of movements based on the 110 is growing in all the right directions! Take care and stay safe, Bill😷

[@enginu.3996]

Dear Bill, thank you for video, Tissot also makes affortable nice watches, You have mentioned it in your videos before, compare Oris and Tissot which one has a higher horology, or maybe we can say better mechanism ?

[@watchartsci]

Engin, the Oris series starting with calibre 110 really has launched Oris into Strong Horology. The Tissot I like has the ETA/Unitas 6498 movement... the 'Heritage Petite Seconde' www.jomashop.com/tissot-heritage-watch-t1194051603701.html Running at 2.5 Hz / 18,000 vph ... that's the same frequency as the top watchmakers use. (The most common frequency is 4Hz 28,000 ... that really beats up the watch!..) So for a good combo, a Tissot Heritage and an Oris with a caliber 110 or better is a sweet combo and affordable too. Take care and be safe! Bill 😷

[@enginu.3996]

@@watchartsci Thank you! you also said tissot powermatic 80 might be also high horology , ı mean as alternative for tissot heritage?

[@watchartsci]

@@enginu.3996 I believe I said, 'It's the path to High Horology' ..., but a good solid movement. Take care and be safe! Bill 😷

[@enginu.3996]

@@watchartsci Thank you

[@chrispeek380]

I have 6 Aquis diver models i've bought over the last year. One 2016 Aquis, one of the new slimmed down 2017 models for my son, three of 2016 small seconds non-window steel caseback models with 500M WR I really like and most recently a Prodiver "Provider" ;} Aquis Chronograph. If you shop around and negotiate all are available (new) at prices that are far better than MSRP, but you do have to keep an eye out for motivated sellers. I like the looks and I think it offers huge value for dollar re the overall build quality relative to the price. You are correct that the perception of ORIS is changing. I've recently seen Aquis models that sold used on Ebay for more than I paid new for the identical model just 6 months ago.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Chris, it's always great to hear from someone like yourself who's had experience with several different watches of a certain brand. I like Oris for lots of reason but as yet get one of their watches. They certainly made my list though. I like the jumping hour regulator... Kindest regards, Bill

[@AbdulRWatches]

Hi Bill, great video, thanks for the share, Oris has a great history of watches, and they are one of the most adaptable watch makers, as they make a wide range of watches with affordable price and good quality . I really like the Regulateur watches from Oris, they look really cool, and comes with a great price tag.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Addul, being a fan of Regulateur watches...I missed the Oris one! Cheers, Bill

[@almeladze]

WatchArtSci, Bill hi, on the pointer day date, the red day arrow - does it go clockwise or CCW?

[@watchartsci]

I don't know Alexander... see if you can find out. Take care, Bill

[@amintaslneto]

Hi Bill, nice video. Oris is a honest brand which something rare in the watch this industry nowadays. I particularly like the Crown Pointer Date. Cheers

[@watchartsci]

Ah-ha! The 'crown pointer' is what I've been calling a 'crescent pointer' ... that's the one I like too...the way it cups the date to make it easy to read. Great to hear from you Amintas! Cheers, Bill

[@amintaslneto]

@@watchartsci Yes, we're definitively in-sync on that my dear friend! Take care. Amintas

[@thermionic1234567]

I have a watch with an ETA 2824 movement. It keeps excellent time, but I found it had stopped while I was wearing it while sleeping. I had not had a very kinetic day and slept very soundly that night, ie I had not been restless. I am wondering if this is normal and if it is possible this was the result of putting it in a sub-optimal orientation for an extended period of time?

[@watchartsci]

Jeffrey, read this article about the ETA 2824- wornandwound.com/caliber-spec-eta-2824-automatic-people/ ... the last few lines are very important as well. Take care, Bill

[@fkurcik]

That logarithmic power reserve indication is neat. I guess the main theme of this movement is it's large power reserve. The balance wheel looks very tiny.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Frantisek, you're right about the balance wheel. I wonder if that's due to the relative size of that giant barrel or if it's really small. As the Oris base movement, though, they've got a great one there. I'm going to see if I can find the actual diameter of that wheel. Cheers, Bill

[@altonriggs2352]

Bill..I am stuck on Art Deco Hamiltons of the 30s-40s. I love your channel and the,dream watchesI can't have.

[@watchartsci]

Alton, I too am a big fan of Art Deco ... watches, cars, furniture, posters... you name it. For years now, I've lusted after the Patek Philippe 520x Gondolo...but now I've discovered a Roger Dubuis. Those Art Deco Hamiltons remind me of the TV Show 'Madmen' ... you never know.. Cheers, Bill

[@theodorelenoir]

Hey Bill, another interesting video. Have you seen the Oris Artelier Complicaton watches? In my opinion they really look amazing for this price point and can probably be had around the $1,500 mark on the grey market.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Beau, thanks for the tip on the O A. Complication. You're right, there're some great buys on the gray for great deals. Found some great ones at Jomashop and Chrono24. Kindest regards, Bill

[@pmac206]

Just ordered my first high end Swiss watch and I decided to with the a new Oris Aquis the 39.5 . I really wanted a omega seamaster but when I came at across the Aquis it just seemed to Check all the boxes so I decided to pull the trigger on it instead of going with a used seamaster , And I think I made the right choice for now .

[@watchartsci]

Congratulations Patrick! I much prefer the 39.5 over the 43.5 size for everyday use; much more versatile. Did you get the rubber strap, leather/croc / steel band? No matter what watch you got; it's the right choice for you. Only one down-side...you'll soon want more! If I may suggest, join an Oris forum where you can find out as much as possible about your watch, and tell us more about yours. Kindest regards, Bill

[@pmac206]

WatchArtSci I went with the steel band, I went with the one with the black bezel And blue face . It was a tough choice though because the green is just stunning.Thanks a lot for the tip, I can see what you mean I'm hoping that holds me over for a while till I can buy a new seamaster.

[@watchartsci]

Patrick McAvoy Sounds like you got versatility! Enjoy!😉

[@zHumanfactor]

Well done sir.

[@watchartsci]

Thanks Humanfactor! The Oris Prodiver was mistakenly (by me!) discussed as the 'Provider' ... do'ah! Kindest regards, Bill

[@watchfan6180]

Hi Bill. What do you think of their new calibre 400?

[@watchartsci]

Watch fan, I like the whole series that began with the 110. They didn't add silicon to the 400 did they!? Take care, Bill

[@watchfan6180]

@@watchartsci At least Oris is trying. The 400 has a jumping hacking minute hand issue. Hopefully, they sort it.

[@shipmate3577]

Oris is a very solid brand. I am a big fan of brands such as Christopher Ward, Oris, Fortis, Sinn, Damasko, and Hanhard. Christopher Ward and Oris, both have been making their own in-house movements for a few years now. My only problem with Oris is that they charge WAY TOO MUCH for their watches with in-house movement... they're asking more than Omega with the 8800 movements and Tudor with their MT in-house movements; Oris... you crazy.

[@watchartsci]

Yes, Shipmate, they need an entry level pricing on their in-house movement watches. What would you suggest? Thanks, Bill

[@BluntTale]

I just joined your channel. Thanks for posting all the informative videos. I am wanting to buy a serious horology timepiece. I have run across a Pierre Kunz (Grande Complication line). From what I understand it is an ETA movement with many fancy add-ons. This is somewhat the scary part because I will be spending close to $7k. I know it's not a lot of money for most watch people but for me it is a hefty amount. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Best Regards, Scott.

[@watchartsci]

Hey BluntTale...$7k is a lot of money! There's no way you should be spending that kind of money on a Pierre Kunz with an ETA. I construct watches for under $100 with an ETA. If you want a Grand Complication, get a Christopher Ward or Oris with an ETA or Sellita movement. They're better watches. Pierre Kunz watches are Standard Horology... not even Strong let along High Horology. Here's another option for Exceptional Horology-an H. Moser. It's listed at $10k, but offer $7k, and you'll walk away with a great brand new watch ( www.shopworn.com/product/h-moser-cie-venturer-small-seconds-18k-rose-gold-manual-wind-mens-watch-2327-0400/ ) Another alternative are Parmigiani Fleurier...true High Horology-check these out; all brand new ( www.chrono24.com/search/index.htm?caseMaterials=4&dosearch=true&gender=1401&manufacturerIds=193&maxAgeInDays=0&pageSize=60&priceFrom=0&priceTo=-1&redirectToSearchIndex=true&sortorder=1&usedOrNew=new ) And remember, NEVER offer the full asking price. A little negotiation can save you 100s if not 1,000s. Let me know what you decide. Kindest regards, Bill

[@BluntTale]

I appreciate taking the time and giving a novice like me some advice.

[@watchartsci]

@@BluntTale A good watch is a good watch at all different prices. There's a difference between quality and popularity, and that takes everyone a while to appreciate. Kindest regards, Bill

[@desmobc]

Love Oris Specially their Aquis line. Best diver watch around the $1000.00 mark used. The 43.5 mm size is a super watch that wears relatively small due to its lug to lug length.

[@watchartsci]

Sounds like you know exactly the right Oris for you Desmo. Enjoy it! Take care and be safe, Bill😷

[@altonriggs2352]

I really enjoy your familiar delivery of the facts. Does your wife approve your choice of garments?

[@watchartsci]

Alton ... I got the sweater in Estonia-a folk design. Does your mother approve of your choice of garments? Cheers, Bill

[@altonriggs2352]

@@watchartsci Ha...meant tongue in cheek...my wife approves all my fashion choices!!!

[@watchartsci]

@@altonriggs2352 Mine tries ... and often fails! Cheers, Bill

[@roamy3605]

Wow, thanks for this history. Love what Oris has done. I have not bought one yet but I should. By the way. I love your sweater that you are wearing (really). I'm older than you (62 years old) so I can't wear that young people (Rap-clothes) that you wear. How many tats do you have? I'm old and and only have 1.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Roamy360...my (long-suffering) sweater is not one of youth; it is one of culture in Estonia and Scandinavia. As far as age is concerned my birthday is D+1 and if you have no idea what that means, you are young indeed! I have no tattoos but scars here and there that remind me of where I've been. That's enough. Cheers, Bill

[@richardr2555]

WatchArtSci June 7th 1944?

[@everyones.shadow]

Hi Bill. Another great video. Thanks. It's Prodiver rather than provider. Sadly. That calibre 110 is just crying out for some perlage and bluing.

[@watchartsci]

Jeremy...if I didn't screw something up, you guys would think that I copied it from someone else! I was thinking...'the sea provides us will life-sustaining....blah, blah, blah" hence ... Provider. Do'ah! Cheers, Bill

[@haythamayad7308]

U deserve to be followed I have two Oris watches the bc3 day date on bracelet what a daily watch less than two k good value for money in my opinion and the big pointer date same as 15:28 with 5 linked bracelet looks like jubilee bracelet two tones case with silver one tone bracelet about 35 /36 mm

[@ivansmith4242]

I like the fact that ths movement is minimally decorated i don't really see why a movement should be decorated in a sport watch. In a sport watch i would prefer to see technical prowess over decoration. People see blue screws and lose their minds. But do they know if the screws were truly blued or just powder coated etc.

[@watchartsci]

That's an interesting observation Ivan. I was looking at the holy trinity sports watches (Nautilus, Overseas and Royal Oak), and theirs didn't have much decoration either, but other than the normal Geneva waves and anglage, there wasn't much. Now, A. Lange & Söhne had lots of decoration on everything, but I don't see any of their watches as 'sports' watches. Kindest regards, Bill

[@ivansmith4242]

@@watchartsci That would make me think that the holy trinity sport watches were more massly produced. 20 or 30k or more for a steel sport watch is utter lunacy and the result of price inflation due to buyer speculation. Why would anyone want a sport watch in precious metals anyways. One it's tacky two what's the point? Don't get me wrong i think a langes are great and all their watches are yes dressy pieces but dress watch size has creeped up to 38 mm and over. That is just wrong on so many levels. People want to wear dinner plates everywhere they go. AND miniaturization is much harder to produce than maximization thus a lot of work goes into producing a smaller watch with hyper detailing vs a larger one. Nowadays it's just about brands and pricing.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Ivan, don't let it get you down. Vacheron Constantin has 36mm versions of their 40mm watches like my Vacheron Constantin Historiques American 1921 now come in 36mm sizes. Gold & platinum sports watches are for sport spectators...not participants. Cheers, Bill

[@ivansmith4242]

@@watchartsci indeed sir as long as we live to fight the next day we shan't let our spirits down but we shall down our spirits with vigor!

[@sandydennylives1392]

Hi Bill. I had contempt for Oris for their over priced eta/selita's, but this is a nice m/ment, fully equal if not a touch above the sh 21. Their still being greedy mind with their pricing.

[@watchartsci]

Hi SL...I was of a similar mind, but I like both the SH 21 and Oris 110-based watches. In fact, I like some of their ETA-6498 based watches with a reasonable price point. Cheers, Bill

[@sandydennylives1392]

@@watchartsci Their designs don't really appeal to me, but props to them for finally abjuring eta. Will we see it with Tissot and Longines ( without high dollar). Unlikely.

[@dCotnijoeb]

I love the oris 110 calibers. But 43+ is too big for me. I want to see them make a smaller version and keep it hand wound.

[@watchartsci]

Hi dContnijoeb! Good point; it is a big movement. I do hope they make a smaller one, but not a real small one that they try to put in every watch under 40mm. What's the sweet spot for you in dial width? Kindest regards, Bill

[@dCotnijoeb]

@@watchartsci my wrist is exceptionally small, but I do tend to wear larger watches. I definitely think toning it down to 40mm would be really nice. Id be even happier with 38 or so though!

[@watchartsci]

I like between 39-40, but am good with up to 42mm and down to 37mm. Cheers, Bill

[@thermionic1234567]

The worst thing about Oris is that they have so many models with proprietary bands and bracelets AND Oris does not seem to sell replacements.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Jeffery, I'm glad you brought up that point. With certain brands, unless the strap is of that particular brand, some collectors won't buy the watch. I once bought a Patek with a 3rd party band and ended up spending a small fortune to get a replacement of band and buckle. With Oris, on the other hand, I wonder if collectors wouldn't mind going with a high quality 3rd party or even a bespoke strap. I'm sure many would feel the same way as I did about my Patek, and so your comment becomes especially important. Thanks for the insight, Bill

[@thermionic1234567]

WatchArtSci Is there a Bespoke Band Boutique?

[@watchartsci]

There're lots of them (online) Check this one: bespokestraps.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA_4jgBRDhARIsADezXcjg0aOz9VwnvnVs74gc_GyApf5GeDWugeVDE0S2yQhgsnxczDZr8bEaAhvlEALw_wcB Let me know what you think. Thanks, Bill

[@martstam2016]

Oris and Zenith are the most underrated old brands on the market. Maybe is marketing, if James Bond wore Oris...

[@watchartsci]

Mladen, what you say is especially true given the new Otis calibers. It might help if Zenith re-thought their unreadable skeleton dials. Take care, Bill

[@martstam2016]

@@watchartsci hahha you are right, better to ditch skeletons and openheart than to have them like that. Oris has one beautiful skeleton with 10 days movement. Realy cool.

[@lepetitsuisse17]

Just watched this now. Why dient they just resurrect an in-house movement from before the quartz crisis?

[@watchartsci]

Hi Martin, good question. My hunch is that if they did that, they'd miss out on a lot of the advances in mechanical watchmaking over the past several years, and the competition would call them out on it, and they'd have precious few customers. Take care, Bill

[@patbackus7668]

Hey Bill , why did the Quartz watch almost destroy the mechanical watch industry? Was it because of the new wow factor ? Was it because of the accuracy? Or because of price ? I remember reading somewhere that people were pee ode ! That President Ford was wearing some gold Quartz watch in a state of the union address, because it cost a fortune and the Country was in a bad recession, I’ve seen photos of him wearing the watch , and except for the gold I was thinking what a piece of shit watch , yet I was very young at the time , had I been older I too probably would have been swept up in the hype , back then you could get a Rolex for a hundred bucks, so I don’t know if other brands could have lowered their prices to try to save the company? I don’t know what a Patek was going for back then ? But I’m sure they were not asking for the insane prices they are asking for and getting today!? I think it’s rich people wanting things even someone with a decent job can’t afford! Now a car back in the 60s or 70s especially the muscle cars were only a few thousand dollars, which was a lot of money but it wasn’t out of reach for everyone if you wanted it bad enough, now if you want a top of the line car you’re gonna be paying an arm and a leg ! But to my knowledge cars have become more high tech, the difference is like night and day , and watches are basically the same technology going back at least 75 years yea they spit shined them a lot but it’s the same watch you were buying in the 60s and 70s for a hundred bucks , I’m talking about Rolex just for reference, now they want ten thousand or more for a Rolex ? And thanks to Mr Newman don’t even try to buy a vintage Rolex! A watch they almost couldn’t give away 45 years ago , Bill what watch has the best movement and looks and is a mechanical hand winding watch and has the cheapest price in your opinion? Again Bill I’m new to this watch game , about a year ago I just really started loving watches ! I don’t know why ? I always liked a watch but I just became head over heels in love with watches! Well I don’t know about the head over heels part ? Lol but I just really started to like watches, maybe it’s my midlife crisis? And it’s a shame because as a young man I had my hands on a Rolex, I’m not sure what kind ? It had a chocolate dial the day and date and it was in 18 K I think I can remember that the crystal was a high or fluted ? Not sure if that’s the word for it ? But I’ve seen similar types of Rolex watches that looked like it , and the prices are out of this world for it , I had it in 1990 and sold it at a watch shop in a small town for 45 hundred bucks , so I know for sure the watch must have been worth a fortune! For example I took my 14 k Movado watch to a shop ten years later and was only offered 50 bucks for the gold ? That watch cost me 15 hundred brand new , I haven’t looked it up but I’m guessing a similar watch today would be at least double if not triple the price , I was out looking at rings gold rings the other day , it’s insane what they want for a 10 k ring ! For a little 10 k nugget ring they want over 2 Grand? I had much much nicer rings 20 years ago I paid 500 bucks for , they would probably want 10 Grand for the stuff I had , in ending why are watches like Rolex so expensive compared to 45 years ago ? And I see watches like the new hulks and Pepsi are going for about 10 Grand brand new ,but there’s a shortage of them wink 😉 wink , and people are actually paying over 20 thousand dollars for them ? ,! I don’t care if I had all the money in the world I’m not paying double for a watch Rolex is pulling some type of scam on ! And for the love of God Bill get yourself a Rolex already! I’d love to see you get the Prince ! I really love that watch too , funny a lot of people don’t like that or the Cellini watch ? The dual time Cellini to me is a beautiful watch ! And the Prince is to , even that guy you talk to online the wrangler or rancher ? Big guy with grey hair , he’s friends with that nut Charlie luxury! They both hate both of those watches? Can’t figure that one out they both love Rolex ? Every Rolex except those two models? Go figure? Have a nice day Bill ,

[@watchartsci]

The Quartz crisis was created because the Japanese invented a watch that could keep better time and sell for a fraction of the typical Swiss watch. Never, worry about what online pundits say; do your own research ... and most importantly have fun doing so!! Cheers Bill

[@gxaviermathews]

Thanks for your interesting commentary.

[@smashexentertainment676]

I'd kill for Artix GT with the 10 day caliber. Unfortunately they still use 38h power reserve, which is extremely poor for my taste.

[@watchartsci]

They're an automatic, right? If you're going to wear it daily and set it aside overnight, 38 hr. reserve is plenty, I'd think. Take care and stay safe, Bill😷

[@smashexentertainment676]

@@watchartsci that's in case if you have a single watch. But I wouldn't be here if I was a one watch man, right? :))) I struggle to keep a couple of my 48h wound all the time. The rest of my collection are 80h, which is plenty and obligatory G-hock :D

[@watchartsci]

@@smashexentertainment676 Why on earth would they all have to be wound all the time? Take care and stay safe, Bill😷

[@Brizwala]

"PRODIVER" Dr Bill

[@watchartsci]

Ok Azza...Pro-Diver...right? What did I say? Something creative...I assume. Cheers, Bill