“A much gentler descent towards silence” excellent
@Ismail-cf6xu8 ай бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 you have no idea how grateful I am for this very informative tutorial. Thank you
@nebula06972 жыл бұрын
This is still the greatest envelope lesson I've found. Would love a follow up on envelope amount, the exact role of sustain, interplay of filter and volume envelope, and retriggering, all of which are still somewhat confusing or hard to put in practice.
@Coowallsky Жыл бұрын
A pipe organ patch benefits with slight attack and release as it simulates the air filling and leaving pipes. Good video!
@lucacycles8623 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the best envelope tutorial I've found. Thanks!
@OscillatorSink Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that you enjoyed it!
@slowgaffle5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! To beginners I want to add one important thing to keep in mind: Attack, Decay and Release are *time* parameters. But Sustain is a *level* parameter. So it can be a bit confusing when you first see that ADSR graph, because the parameters can appear to be all mapped on the same domain, but they are not. This is shown on the graphic with arrows but it may not be obvious to think of.
@dizz7404 жыл бұрын
But on my synth the A D S and R parameters all have both an L (level) value and a T (time) value, which I find confusing.
@OscillatorSink4 жыл бұрын
What synth is that?
@dizz7404 жыл бұрын
Oscillator Sink Roland XV5080
@dizz7404 жыл бұрын
Oscillator Sink specifically, the TVA has 4 time parameters and 3 level parameters. The TVF has 4 time and 5 level parameters.
@dizz7404 жыл бұрын
And slightly annoyingly they’re only ever labelled as time and level, never A, D, S or R.
@Airsquest9 ай бұрын
For years I have struggled to understand envelopes! Thank you so much for your explanation!
@OscillatorSink9 ай бұрын
Really pleased to have helped!
@mallardking40754 жыл бұрын
This dude has the most soothing voice, he should read audiobooks or something
@jdog79823 жыл бұрын
haha yeah man from adsr to asmr!!
@El_MA113 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial. The waveform with adsr markings really helped me finally understand how this works. Before it seemed complicated for some reason. Thanks.
@jdog79823 жыл бұрын
Oscillator sink always holds water. These tutorials are gold. I especially love the one where you make a massive monosynth on the digitak
@jonprudhomme76943 жыл бұрын
Great video, absolutely help a beginner overcome a misunderstanding in filters. Thanks!
@josephibarra868 Жыл бұрын
Amazing lesson! Thank You for teaching us how to apply this practically!
@OscillatorSink Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to help!
@dizz7404 жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on tutorial videos but this one is excellent. I understand envelopes but i still felt I learned something.
@OscillatorSink4 жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you to say. Thanks for watching!
@michaelvance1838 Жыл бұрын
Recipes is a fantastic way to think of envelopes. I think using these templates will really help me jump in to designing my own patches. I was previously doing random exploring and losing my creativity by the time I got around to anything substantial. My synth allows me to import envelopes from other patches so I think I will create patches that are specifically setup for each of these recipes and use them as templates to slap on wherever I see fit. Thank you so much!
@SuperOssi5 жыл бұрын
that waveform, whoa so easy to understand the envelope shapes now! big thanks again!
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Very happy to have helped!
@MrBasic6 жыл бұрын
This video is pure gold. I never heard the term 'organ envelope' before. I am definitely thinking a bit differently now.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad I could help to expand your horizons!
@SSITM2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You should do a playlist of tutorials on global sound design.
@MrBlueHaze5 жыл бұрын
One of the best envelopes videos ever, thank you.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for checking it out - really glad you enjoyed it!
@bonesonthebeat17526 жыл бұрын
Nice.. wouldn't mind seeing more like this 👍👍👍🤘💯
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
I'll do my best! What topics would you like to see covered?
@bonesonthebeat17526 жыл бұрын
Oscillator Sink cv
@AnxiousCowboy6 жыл бұрын
envelope followers
@GONZOFAM76 жыл бұрын
Filters LP, HP etc.
@OscillatorSink4 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that they it's a standard adsr envelope, then just assign how much you want it to move the filter with the EG amount (which can be positive or negative), so the things I show in this video will all apply. What's puzzling you in particular?
@bff64344 жыл бұрын
Perfect for beginners
@howardanderson30615 жыл бұрын
So helpful, I love that you can see the envelope on the keyboard screen.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Hope I managed to show you something new 🙂
@kajitokenka6 жыл бұрын
Best tutorials on YT! Love hearing you explain your thought process on designing patches.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@howardanderson30614 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial, you are so good at conveying both technical and creative concepts. Very Impressive....thank you!
@OscillatorSink4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Really pleased that you enjoyed it!
@howardanderson30614 жыл бұрын
@@OscillatorSink your welcome, you do amazing tutorials...I’m learning so much
@MrKayMrKay6 жыл бұрын
Best video on enveloppes I've seen so far, thank you!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@lassejensen12106 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I would love more content like this. Like recipes for other types of modulation - LFO's sequencing of different parameters and so forth. You've got at new subscriber for sure.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, welcome! I'll what I can come up with.
@richardsexton7136 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial! Been looking all over for something like this. Would love to see a video about how to design around the limitations of a single envelope, as found in many lower-priced synths.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
You might find some of those tricks in my "let's build a..." videos for the Monologue - have a look at some of those!
@Musikkeller-Innsider4 жыл бұрын
Just recently found this channel, so many well-structured and well-presented videos! Instant abo material...
@OscillatorSink4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and welcome to the channel!
@jean-pierrejoubert61406 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview! Learned a bunch, thanks!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
@josephwright59216 жыл бұрын
Very, very informative there, Osc! I will be watching this again!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Very glad to help!
@flightofsound24974 жыл бұрын
This video was a real game changer for me.
@danielhirata40546 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I watched all your Volca FM videos recently to understand the FM engine! Simply amazing
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear I could help you get a deeper understanding of FM - it's a tremendously enjoyable form of Synthesis? Have you checked out any of my recent Digitone videos? That thing really takes FM to some interesting places!
@RogerioValgode5 жыл бұрын
VERY nice explanation and practical use. The live examples are a great way to learn. Thanks.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MickBenjamins5 жыл бұрын
The faux reverse trick is neat, thank you!
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked that one!
@JamesNoteology2 жыл бұрын
Great Tutorial would appreciate a similar tutorial on filters
@quentinsylwester6352 жыл бұрын
brilliant video
@lmcmulle2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Deepmind as well, so you're my go-to inspiration. Would love some videos on designing different effects types (rises, falls, lasers and the like) exellent!
@TPsynth5 жыл бұрын
Great video, all your deepmind sruff is super helpful.
@georgeray34926 жыл бұрын
Very good explanations. I really enjoyed seeing the CZ series envelopes mentioned.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
They're bonkers, but also kinda amazing!
@criminimalj18976 жыл бұрын
That was great. Thank you. Definitely more of these videos. Very informative.
Thank you for checking it out. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@lozza97896 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, many thanks for making this. A great refresher on ADSR and a reminder on what we can really do with those 4 abbreviations!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@smcumber6 жыл бұрын
You are giving Divkid a run for his money in terms of informative KZbin synth channels with a soothing British voice for narration
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Haha, Don't forget Mylar Melodies (and if that was you being introduced to Mylar - you're welcome!)
@birdseyebeats4 жыл бұрын
Super helpful :) thank you
@valdiskrebs5666 жыл бұрын
Very informative... great explanation and examples.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Thanks for checking it out!
@klangwaffe97036 жыл бұрын
This is great! Wish there were more videos like this :) really like the way how you explain everything very clear with musical examples
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hopefully I'll do some more in this style soon!
@klangwaffe97036 жыл бұрын
Coming from an acoustic instrument background, synthesis is a pretty new thing to me, but I love the immense amount of tone shaping possibilities it gives compared to a natural instrument, where you are bound by the timbre of the instrument. Been fooling around a bit with drum machines and synths too on my page, hope you have some time to check it out. Looking forward to your next video!!
@InkyDaCaT6 жыл бұрын
Great educational video, as always, very professional and helpful!!!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Inky
@darrenm61966 жыл бұрын
I like that you use a DM 12 too. My first synth, bought second hand and totally overwhelming for this amateur. Having' fun with a Monologue now.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
The Monologue is the perfect little synth to get going with, I love mine!
@darrenm61966 жыл бұрын
You are a star...I hope someone pays you for these vids. Thank you
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. No pay at the moment - just for the love of synths!
@gavdobs3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video
@JohnMark613556 жыл бұрын
Thank you...fantastic video. I learned a lot.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear, thank you! Now go and make some cool sounds!
@mathieupe666Ай бұрын
Very good. Part2 should feature reversed envelope strategies
@beepot27646 жыл бұрын
I'm a total noob and this is extremely helpful. Thanks!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Glad to have helped!
@jjbing32 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@bbxdesign6 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing I would add: it'd be useful for beginners to make them understand that sustain's value is a level, while the other 3 are time units, like your graph shows.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think I cover that when I'm discussing the decay and sustain together, (as in I state that sustain is a level), but maybe I didn't summarise the whole "Time vs. Level" thing as strongly as I could.
@bbxdesign6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was just nitpicking here. Your graph and description explain it clearly. I just thought emphasizing it would help beginners!
@residentginger4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@OmriCohen-Music6 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting, and you explained it very calmly and clearly. Almost synthesis meditation... When you start building a sound, assuming you know more or less what you want at the moment, do you start with shaping the envelope, or the sound itself first? And what is the first thing you assign an envelope to, after volume of course? Thanks for this! Cheers
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
It really does vary for me. If I'm going into a subtractive synth and have a sound "archetype" in mind (say bass, lead, pad, etc.) then I usually jump on the volume envelope to get the feel right, but after that it's kinda wherever the patch takes me? When I'm not recording a video I'm a little less structured in my sound design to be honest! A lot of times it's the configuration of the oscillators that will dictate other stuff - the frequency content will guide how far or fast I can move the envelopes I think.
@OmriCohen-Music6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that when there is a general idea or direction to what one wants to achieve, it's easier to start with the volume envelope, so the sound is based on it. Like a pad with a long attack and\or release, a percussive sound with a short attack, just like you showed in this video. But when just building a sound out of a gut feeling, I find that the volume envelope comes somewhere after the shaping of the sound by playing with the different oscillators. All in all, as long as the way is fun and inspiring, it doesn't really matter what comes first... Thanks again and cheers!
@brutecoan79755 жыл бұрын
This is excellent!!
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kierenmoore32366 жыл бұрын
As a relative noob, this was really helpful - thanks! :D
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I'm glad I could help!
@MegaWimberly6 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful. I am new to synth.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it, and welcome!
@GONZOFAM76 жыл бұрын
1:25 is the perfect illustration. Thanks
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, happy I could help.
@mitchelldunaway5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the ridiculousness of the 8 step envelopes on the CZ synths.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Two stage release is kinda amazing from a sound design perspective though....
@mitchelldunaway5 жыл бұрын
@@OscillatorSink you're making me want to get my CZ-1000 down from the closet.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
I had a CZ3000 that died - cherish your 1000. They're great little synths and the PD stuff plus the "stick two wave forms together" stuff actually makes for a very interesting sounding synth, once you leave the presets behind!
@RubiconRecordings5 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out the CZ patches on this site, they are really good czounds.com/
@pylon21446 жыл бұрын
Yes finally!! Been waiting for this!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
IT ARRIVES
@GuitarSeek3r6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@halnader94275 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I would like to go a little more in depth as far as how these sounds are created by exploring the settings for their different parameters. I'm still struggling with the Filter and Pitch parameters.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
I don't know which synths you own, but one thing that might help are my "let's build" videos. Even if you don't own the actual synth, many of the ideas are transferable. Give this one a try: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4GoomWdmZx2q7s
@evanlesoule6 жыл бұрын
this was extremely helpful thanks
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Really glad you found it useful!
@liberatetutemeexinferis59023 жыл бұрын
I'll try this on my Minilogue.
@MartinArgg4 жыл бұрын
Oh the inception theme!
@UncleBoogieRF5 жыл бұрын
I’m a synth newbie and this was very informative. I’m still lost on... Well, all of it... but I’m learning. I’ve got a Novation Mininova and a Volca FM but I really want that Deepmind 6 after hearing your ambient stuff. No idea if I can do that on the Mininova.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
You'll get there - just explore by making small changes and seeing what comes out. I'm not sure if you can get to the generative stuff on the mininova, but you should be able to get to ambient places with a little massaging. Check out my "let's build a" videos for the Deepmind - it's not the same synth, but most of the principles will still apply, might be fun to try and translate what you're seeing and hearing to your synth.
thx those basic things ... make the sound shine in the end
@TROGULAR100006 жыл бұрын
cool last visit i didn't make it to the end but this time i learned about the faux-reverse envelope.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the end of the video! Glad you found something new here!
@TROGULAR100006 жыл бұрын
@@OscillatorSink :-) would love to hear actual music and sponsor you
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
There are a bunch of jams on my channel - feel free to check them out. I'm pretty proud of this recent one, but I can point you at something a bit more upbeat if you're not feeling the chill stuff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3LCZ4l9d712qrs
@goodboid6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Next up LFOs please
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
I'll do my best!
@PodOfHeat4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm new to synthesis so it's good to hear all these gobbledegook terms broken down into plain English
@OscillatorSink4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help you out on the start of your journey!
@therealquade6 жыл бұрын
I'm just surprised by the lack of "ADADSR", which is chiefly used for brass sounding instruments.
@ChrisandDanielMusic Жыл бұрын
thank you
@EredarLordJaraxxus5 жыл бұрын
Saw the deepmind so i clicked. Happy I attended. Fanks.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
👌 Thanks for coming!
@toml65355 жыл бұрын
lovely video thanks, one question how is the envelope on the deepmind? is comparable to the roland ones?
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
In what way comparable, and to which Rolands? It's an ADSR that can go quick and change its slopes from logarithmic to exponential through linear (and has a neat sloping sustain if you want it), so in terms of features, it's going to be pretty feature rich compared to a lot of older Roland synths and can likely impersonate a lot of flavours of ADSR.
@toml65355 жыл бұрын
@@OscillatorSink thanks for your reply, what i ment was, for example compare it to a sh-101 it has those really fast popping kind of envelopes wich i love for percussion
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
@@toml6535 they go pretty fast, and can get especially percussive with the curves set exponential. They can also go verrry long!
@crime_wavcorp2 жыл бұрын
nice lesson. the synth sounds pretty harsh tho. i thought my rev 2 sounds a bit harsh at times, but this thing is another level of harsh. no sauce at all.
@OscillatorSink2 жыл бұрын
OK sorry
@berzerkrobot3 жыл бұрын
".....And most importantly our 'wub wubs' ..." :D
@GrootsieTheDog2 жыл бұрын
Sustain is volume/amplitude - not time. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding your visuals? But you have an arrow pointing to sustain labeled “time”.
@OscillatorSink2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this isn't clear - "Time" is the label of the x axis on the graph, not a label on that segment of the envelope. The arrows are to inply that sustain is variable along the y axis) the one labeled level, because, as you say, sustain is a level/amplitude.
@GrootsieTheDog2 жыл бұрын
@@OscillatorSink 👍
@BritishBeachcomber4 жыл бұрын
At 13:15 the VCA Envelope display shows a rising sustain level. How is this done?
@OscillatorSink4 жыл бұрын
If you switch on the curve button on the Deepmind, attack, decay and release can be morphed between exponential and logarithmic, whereas sustain can be made to slope up or down .
@BritishBeachcomber4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just realized that's what the the Korg Poly-800 did with sustain, way back in the 80s, with ADBSSR.
@bluename45 жыл бұрын
how does a "transient designer" (e.g. by SPL) differ from an envelope shaper?
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
A transient designer is kinda a kind of clever compressor / expander, so it's processing audio based on the volume envelope it already has and reshaping that.
@kryll776 жыл бұрын
It's your fault that I bought a DM12 :D , Great vid.
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Yesssssss! I hope you're enjoying it!
@patkelly39666 жыл бұрын
150. Thanks bro
@kisho26792 жыл бұрын
very fast Attack is synonymous to Transient?
@OscillatorSink2 жыл бұрын
Yes, thats part of it. Usually you will want to couple that with a fast decay and lower sustain to make it sound like a "real" transient rather than just a rapid onset.
@callumclarke49496 жыл бұрын
Hi thank you for this explanation could you go further and possible cover the best tips for how to modulate the envelopes as modulation is always baffled me but you explain things to the point where my 11 year old is understanding this as well as me
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear I'm appealing to the youth market! Could you give me an example of what "modulating the envelopes", it's not really a phrase I'm familiar with so perhaps there's some confusion there?
@psychmachineelectronic96266 жыл бұрын
nice
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@ThePumaHiFi6 жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@Lumberjack1n6 жыл бұрын
thanks dad
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
No problems son.
@patkelly39666 жыл бұрын
I AM THE DUB OSCILLATOR
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
You sure are buddy.
@SebastianMcCrazy5 жыл бұрын
on the deepmind you can loop the envelopes, giving you 3 extra lfos
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
Yup! Conversely on the Monologue you can set to LFO to be one-shot giving you an extra envelope!
@robertsyrett19926 жыл бұрын
2:42 I mean...
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Right?! (actually, the two-stage release on that is actually kinda amazing from a sound design perspective, allows you to do all kinds of amazing flutters and floats on the way out of a note).
@robertsyrett19926 жыл бұрын
Sure, those envelopes make sense for that particular synth. Having messed around in modular with multistage envelopes, I think I prefer to have several basic envelopes in most cases with different routings. Like two modulation envelopes with settings like those in your "pad" category covers most of what those more arcane envelopes had to offer.
@percussionboy43576 жыл бұрын
Oscillator Sink - I learned subtractive synthesis on a CZ, and those envelopes are amazing as long as you have a book or article to explain them. Half the time you don’t use most of the 8 stages at all, but they’re there when you want to do something difficult (flutters n floats, like you said). The CZs can do amazing imitative synthesis, at least within the limits of the core osc sound, because you actually get SIX of those envelopes per patch - each of the 2 oscs has its own pitch, filter (well, DCW), and volume envelope. I did a couple African percussion sounds on the CZ that would have fooled most people....Great video as usual, btw. If you want to help humanity, you might do one some time on how envelope amount and other filter settings interact with the VCF cutoff ... as a newbie that used to really puzzle me ...
@FibblezUniverse3 жыл бұрын
That violin was ear piercing lol
@jonritchey86535 жыл бұрын
its your fault that i bought a dm12
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
I take full responsibility for all the fun you're having.
@jonritchey86535 жыл бұрын
@@OscillatorSink question for you... i saw a video where a guy simulated a triangle wave on the deepmind in mono 6 mode (he said... this went over my head... ive had mine for 4 days now). do you know anything about this? and could you do a tutorial video on it? either way... thankyou for making this channel. ive learned alot from you.
@OscillatorSink5 жыл бұрын
@@jonritchey8653 something using the LFOs? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ6ZhGtohr-tg5Y
@Electronicmassacre6 жыл бұрын
My god. Just realised there’s an adsr in the amp page on a digitone. Why haven’t I realised this yet... duh!
@OscillatorSink6 жыл бұрын
Haha, yup! An additional benefit of this video I guess!