Deepmind 12 vs Juno 106 // How to get similar tones

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Starsky Carr

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A look at how to get some classic vintage Juno 106 tones from the Behringer Deepmind 12 by limiting its functionality to replicate the behaviour of the Juno 106 that inspired it.
They're not identical, they're not meant to be, and the DM12 has vast modulation capabilities, FX, extra envelopes, LFOs etc.. so I'm not trying to show how well they match - but if you've got one and you're wondering how to get some classic tones this may help.
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0:00 intro
1:50 Overview
4:45 Set-up as 106
7:15 Sawtooth
10:45 Square/Pulse
14:45 Sub
17:30 Noise
18:15 HPF
21:55 VCF
27:00 LFO
27:45 Some Sounds
32:36 Chorus + Pads
Some tips so you don't have to take notes:
1. Open default program (PGM + Compare)
2. Edit LFO - change from mono to poly mode
3. Edit Osc - change reset to ON
4. Edit VCF - velocity sensitivity to 0
Change from LFO2 to LFO1
5. Edit VCA - velocity sensitivity to 0
6. Press VCF and VCF envelope buttons together
7. Use default envelop settings
You’re all set….
When programming:
8. Max LFO 9
9. Always use LFO triangle
10. If using a delay on LFO1 AND PWM use LFO 2 at the same speed as LFO 1
11. Leave 1st 3 sliders on OSC to at 0
12. Always use 24dB mode on the VCF
13. Max Reso 8.5
14. For Juno ish Chorus - use Chorus (not Chorus D)
For 106 I speed 0.6
For 106 II speed 1.4
15. Never use HPF AND Boost together
16. Don’t use the mod matrix or Env 3
17. Add additional FX as you’d do that with a Juno using external gear.
18.Use Poly-6 mode in the poly menu to get that original note stealing effect.

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@benjoray
@benjoray 5 жыл бұрын
29:32 there is a way to make it 6 voice polyphonic. If you press edit under Unison Detune and scroll through the different voice settings you should see “Poly-6” which will limit it to 6 voices.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks - I found it the day after I uploaded this!! So many options I must have scrolled straight past it. Really wish I’d found it earlier!! Hope you found some of it useful/interesting. Cheers.
@JoshRichmanDesign
@JoshRichmanDesign 5 жыл бұрын
Does Poly-6 mode on the DM12 effetely use 2 voices per note? Limiting the poly to match the Juno but is the juno using one or two voices per note? Essentially is this still actuate or different from the Juno?@@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoshRichmanDesign It still uses 1 voice per note, as with the 12 voice or 8 voice mode, but just limits the number voices to 6. This gives note stealing like the juno 106, while still limiting to the 2 oscillators per voice. So if you use Osc2 as a sub you're in Juno territory.
@marcosantacruz9086
@marcosantacruz9086 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoshRichmanDesign just wanted to add, so others who click on this answer can see, that selecting "unison-2" does indeed use 2 voices per note, which makes them thicker. Options for unison are "unison-1/2/3/4/6/12"
@salamanteri_
@salamanteri_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcosantacruz9086 There is option for Poly-6 and -8 which limits the voices that are used. Unison is different from this.
@major9991
@major9991 Жыл бұрын
By far the BEST detailed video showing a TRUE comparison of the Juno-106 with the Deep mind 12. This is the video that tells us that Behringer has a winner here. We all would love to have the vintage gear, But honestly if the Deepmind 12 has the Roland chip in it for the true filters and can come 97 percent exact of the sounds, that's good enough for me to get those lush chorus tones from the 80's.
@westeringsun7342
@westeringsun7342 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother for all of your hard work. We all so appreciate what you do for the community. Much respect!
@GregoryKane11
@GregoryKane11 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Starsky, these demos are so invaluable. Thank you so much. I'm loving what berhinger and Music Tribe are doing ... good music making.
@14thedock
@14thedock 5 жыл бұрын
Just got my Deepmind 6 and followed this tutorial. Thankyou , i love these sounds. Such a good affordable synth. Thankyou for sharing your knowledge and love for these synths.
@DannyJamesGuitar
@DannyJamesGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Your synth comparison videos are amazing. I'm looking at buying my first hardware synth and they've been a huge help to me. Thanks!
@natbvm1880
@natbvm1880 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for something like this. I got the DM 12D a few months ago and have just been preset surfing because I've just been more focused on songwriting. But I have wanted so bad to kind of dive in and make some vintage tones from scratch. This is such a wonderful lesson, thank you so much! Its such a daunting synth for a novice like myself, and having a roadmap like this is priceless! Tomorrow is my first day of in weeks, I'm going to treat myself to going through all of this. Thanks a bajillion 🖤🖤🖤
@hellodavidryan
@hellodavidryan 3 жыл бұрын
Super useful. Thanks for taking the time to show that "default Juno setup". Making this an init patch is an excellent workflow starting point. Appreciated.
@MattGreerMusic
@MattGreerMusic 5 жыл бұрын
5:30 made me a believer.
@pekkagronfors7304
@pekkagronfors7304 5 жыл бұрын
Just great video. Never heard the Juno 106 "with the pants down" before. I have for a long time thought about buying a DM12. This made me wake up that thought again.
@myblueextremes1526
@myblueextremes1526 3 жыл бұрын
This video really influenced my decision to buy a Deepmind 12. So glad I did. Thanks!
@bensimpson873
@bensimpson873 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as ever. Just ordered a DeepMind 12D - I sold two Juno 106s as I didn't have room for them... this is the perfect solution!
@dakoiaa
@dakoiaa 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding study and demo, thank you for your dedication to that level !!!
@Joe.Bodie.Musician
@Joe.Bodie.Musician 5 жыл бұрын
Waiting for my Deepmind 12 to arrive at the local shop. What a fantastic display of the Deepmind's extraordinary chameleon-like abilities. I'm more than excited to delve into these beautiful soundscapes.
@maccagrabme
@maccagrabme 5 жыл бұрын
Is it as good as you expected?
@freddie_video
@freddie_video 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely nice work! your work proved this synth's ability. I'm DeepMind12 owner too. Of course I'm enjoying this guy's power!
@1881Gordon
@1881Gordon 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always very detailed and thorough. You clearly know your stuff and I'm very impressed with your content. Fantastic stuff. Subscribed...Thank you!
@alextotheroh8071
@alextotheroh8071 3 жыл бұрын
What a crazy insightful video. Thanks for making it!
@SunnyBear
@SunnyBear 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful demonstration, thanks a lot man! I'm really impressed with the Deep Mind, especially considering the price for which you can get the 6 voice version today.
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I have a knackered 106 in my closet, that I'm not willing to send out for repair (it's been there for years). I received a Deepmind 12 a few days ago, and it's wonderful. I knew it was supposed to be inspired by the 106, but didn't know how close it could match its sounds. And so much more. I love this thing!
@chiminh7451
@chiminh7451 4 жыл бұрын
dude, i'll take your broken 106.
@damondarkwalker
@damondarkwalker 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!! Excellent demo, sir.
@iqi616
@iqi616 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't really "get" the DM until I saw this. Seriously now considering selling my uninspiring Boutique JP-08 to help finance a DM.
@SoundOfVinyl
@SoundOfVinyl 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the beste DM12 tutorials I allready watched it 2 times, no preparing to do this on my deepmind 12, it sounds lovely
@robertsillitoe
@robertsillitoe 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Good to see the Deepmind12 getting some love. Really is a fantastic synth.
@thegood9
@thegood9 5 жыл бұрын
Since the 106 there has been NOTHING that is as capable.
@kingtrance6826
@kingtrance6826 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a lot of fun. Of course it’s no Moog One but it doesn’t cost Eight Grand either!
@PaulSpeed42
@PaulSpeed42 5 жыл бұрын
Rarely comment on videos but I really loved this. I have a stack of Juno-106's in various state of disrepair (one fully functional, all voices still working)... the DM 12 is now at the top of my GAS list. The part where you get to the chorus... I fell in love all over again. Just a very visceral feeling.
@garljoens
@garljoens 2 жыл бұрын
Please let me purchase one of your 106es!
@garljoens
@garljoens 2 жыл бұрын
I'll pay you very fairly!
@PaulSpeed42
@PaulSpeed42 2 жыл бұрын
@@garljoens I only have one fully working juno-106 and the others are for parts to keep that one running. I got all of them except my original from e-bay... you should check there.
@blainewalter8933
@blainewalter8933 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the in depth view on this thing. Ill be giving it a try for sure. Thanks!
@retrogamer84z
@retrogamer84z 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are now my go to anytime I wanna learn anything about a synth.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know thanks.
@duncanrobertson2958
@duncanrobertson2958 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Really good to see proper spectral and waveform analysis. I wasn't aware the 106 was the inspiration for the DM. As you've demonstrated - to my ears - how you can achieve very similar tones.
@DeepspaceHorizon
@DeepspaceHorizon 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, and demonstration of the DM capabilities. Many thanks 🙏🏻
@CarlyonProduction
@CarlyonProduction 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vids. Keep em coming
@impurfekt
@impurfekt 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb. Thank you.
@jasonakagecko
@jasonakagecko 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! You have definitely helped me make my decision on which Synthizer to get. I am very happy to say that I am the proud owner of a vintage Roland Juno-106.💪🏻😎👍🏻
@perfectpitch4151
@perfectpitch4151 5 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thorough demo. I didn't realize deepmind was inspired by the 106 until I saw this video. It sounds just as good as the 106 to my ears, and I suppose it can do a lot more than the 106. Your video has convinced me to get me a deepmind. Thanks!
@lownrgy
@lownrgy 5 жыл бұрын
I think the original idea was recreate 106 but it developed little further than that
@robbinhasseltof4428
@robbinhasseltof4428 4 жыл бұрын
hey man you commented this 1 year ago still happy with your deepmind?
@lukegregg5944
@lukegregg5944 4 жыл бұрын
@@robbinhasseltof4428 Bump, would like to know also.
@kebab_boi
@kebab_boi 4 жыл бұрын
Yess update us!
@thevisibleman7087
@thevisibleman7087 4 жыл бұрын
Yes update us please!
@gladtobeangry
@gladtobeangry 4 жыл бұрын
Just struck a deal with someone on a secondhand site for the Deepmind 12D, going to pick it up tomorrow. Too bad so many of the demos I heard so far are drowning in fx. This demo shows how good it can sound without. Can't wait to make some of my own raw presets.
@moe4111
@moe4111 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done, thanks!
@AdamSpade
@AdamSpade 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these comparisons.
@longfade
@longfade 5 жыл бұрын
I've never owned a 106, but I do have the DeepMind 6 and it's an extraordinary achievement on Behringer's part. The menu-diving, such as it is, I thought would be off-putting, but it actually makes total sense when you're building sounds. You are building a sound and think, "Man, I just wish I could assign an ASDR to this parameter" or something, and then you realize it's right there for you. I've found it to be flexible and exciting to program. Also, the build quality is awesome (mine fell down a flight of stairs and still functions perfectly; a little worse for wear cosmetically though), and it feels great to handle. I know I sound like a shill for Behringer, but I think it's just incredible that you can get so much synth for your money. That said, if I were blindfolded, I think would prefer the 106 on a purely sonic level. And as soon as I find one in perfect condition for 500.00, I will buy one. **And thanks for the excellent post, by the way!**
@davidcole1362
@davidcole1362 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video, I hope Behringer have watched you sell them a few more thousand DM12’s!! I’ve ordered 1 👍
@AgustinDavidF
@AgustinDavidF 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your very good reviews. Because of your Behringer Mini D review I bought it...and because of your Deepmind 12 review I will buy it!!!
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Haha - a great responsibility indeed. I hope your wife/partner doesn't mind!!
@AgustinDavidF
@AgustinDavidF 5 жыл бұрын
haha! No problem there! I love the passion you put into it...very funny as well :)...thanks again!
@freddiesamples
@freddiesamples 5 жыл бұрын
The DM12 emulates the Juno 106 very good, great video. The added features on the DM12 really compliment the synth.
@SunnyBear
@SunnyBear 5 жыл бұрын
fantastic comparison, thanks!!! it definitely made me decide where to put my money next :)
@ultrawestvideo
@ultrawestvideo 5 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot ! i apreciate that with my low level of english I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU YEAAAAAHH !!! Viva Starsky !!!! Eres bueno !!!
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see clear contents written for this video! Cool video. Not heard the DeepMind 12 before properly or the 106 really. Great video - one of the clearest synth demos that I have seen, no BS just right! I liked the sound at 9:09 when you played both together! Is that a Model D in the background, an original one or a new one? You mentioned the P6 and OB6 have you demoed those? I'm going to look at your other uploads!
@chriss4381
@chriss4381 5 жыл бұрын
Just listening through my cheap laptop speakers, the Saw comparison definitely shows a bit more "brightness" on the 106, but the Deepmind sounds like the volume is a bit lower as well. Otherwise, I've wanted a 106 for years, so I'm excited to get my Deepmind later this week and achieve similar sounds. Thanks for this comparison.
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 2 жыл бұрын
Very well job you've done! The accurate comparison between what is comparable. I've a Juno 6 original, so I love this modern one with actual technology. When I play my Juno, 6 not 60! , I enter the sound out in effects racks, sometimes I uses a web cam to register the presets I can't have of course. My practice is sound mapping, fat sounds, so for me all the modern adds on this Juno like is a dream we never realized before as I never had found money, and opportunity to have the 106.
@Gerdream
@Gerdream 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, thank you!
@jakobole
@jakobole 5 жыл бұрын
I was also shocked by that chorus similarity - and lol'ed a bit because the moment I thought of TAL's plugin, you brought it up, haha.
@darrenringer9811
@darrenringer9811 4 жыл бұрын
The only Chorus VST anybody needs. Then for analog HW... the MF-108M Cluster Flux. Man it's too bad those were discontinued.
@halfdonut6505
@halfdonut6505 3 жыл бұрын
That TAL chorus is something else man. I almost think I overuse it.
@maval4537
@maval4537 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this video was very revealing to me, thank you a lot! If I, as a non purist keyboardist, consider the fact that the J106 is much harder to get and costs a lot more, and also that the DM12 offers generally a very wide range of sound modulation for a great value, I'm absolutely happy with the DM12. I'm just about to decide if or not to buy one, but I think I just made my decision...
@eddievanheinous666
@eddievanheinous666 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for this - the first synth I owned was a 106 (it was stolen =P), so I bought the DM12d in lieu of buying another old 106. I saved the settings at the 6:43 mark as a Juno init patch.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
When I bought my Juno 106 in the late 90s, people were still saying it was a crappy DCO synth. But the 106 had something special about the sound (the chorus was part of it). We appreciate it now, Deepmind is not bad at all, I like the 12 voice desktop version personally!
@lordundhimself1310
@lordundhimself1310 2 жыл бұрын
12D 🤘🏿
@ericMT
@ericMT Жыл бұрын
Digitally controlled analog oscillators. A lot of people mistakenly thought it was “Digital Oscillators”. All these years later and the 106 is still beloved by so many. Maybe even more than the vastly superior Jupiter 8 just because of how affordable/common it was.
@Goettel
@Goettel 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my Juno-6 back in the day (my first synth, unless you count the Casio SK-1). I love my DM-12 today. If you lust after the vintage analogs, that's understandable, but if you have a DM just enjoy the awesome sounds and capabilities and how close it can get to the vintage Juno's at a fraction of todays prices, and much much more beyond; with twice the polyphony (I tend to stick to 12 voice poly, because having a 12 voice analog poly is just gorgeous for pads), a great mod matrix and excellent effects x4. Behringer really did a stellar job on it. These are great days for synths! Now, if only Uli could replace the Synthex I moronically sold decades ago...
@toomuchtoofast4533
@toomuchtoofast4533 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect, my thoughts exactly
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 5 жыл бұрын
They both sound great, don't they! Great video.
@celticprogeny1569
@celticprogeny1569 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Starsky. I've thoroughly enjoyed your comparison videos and would just like to pass on my appreciation.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Celtic Progeny thanks it’s nice to hear they’re useful I appreciate you letting me know.
@bernardosilva7306
@bernardosilva7306 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome job dude, very in-depth! You basically convinced me to get a DM12D (I don't care about the keys, I prefer to use my external midi keys). Got an amazing deal for $449.99, super excited about it. Thanks!!!
@savanaviolenta
@savanaviolenta 5 жыл бұрын
I was in the same boat like you,i also have nice midi controllers,but I use them to control my modules only,there is a feeling of immediacy ,when pulling out my DM12 ,and just switch it on and start playing,don't have to reach out for a midi controller all the time,just plug and play.
@SecretMailBand
@SecretMailBand 9 ай бұрын
Many thx for your excellent work! I owned a Juno 6 as my main keyboard in a band in the 1980s and (unfortunately) selled it for a more "modern" keyyboard in the 1990s :( I bought a Deepmind 12D a few weeks ago to get these sounds and with your video I might be able to get them :)
@Johnsormani
@Johnsormani 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and elaborate comapatiënten video. I never knew deepmind came so close. Subbed!
@KD-cobain
@KD-cobain 2 жыл бұрын
The pad starting at 36:29 is all I needed to hear to finally want the Deepmind
@andysmith7265
@andysmith7265 4 жыл бұрын
great pads - really does the Juno justice once you throw the chorus on top. this seems like a great synth for me to leave in my jam space for those spontaneous jam nights where I don't feel like going back to my apt to grab the moog. Great oscillators, 12 note polyphony and effects - and most of all relatively cheap for the great sounds.
@CGI__
@CGI__ 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I bought a juno but it's not working properly so I have to give it back. I will go for a DM12 after your excellent video! thanks :)
@Johanthegnarler
@Johanthegnarler 5 жыл бұрын
The 12D is my first jump into hardware poly after a bazillion years of various modular and mono. I've been getting lost into pads for days now.. dunno how I'll use em in a mix yet.. but nice to have em at my fingertips. Thanks for the lesson!
@synthartist69
@synthartist69 5 жыл бұрын
Man that Juno 106 sounds so good!!! You should make a Juno 106 sound bank for the Deepmind 12...
@omarverone
@omarverone 4 жыл бұрын
there is one sound bank of juno at deepmind 12 facebook page
@offwork2162
@offwork2162 3 жыл бұрын
Just have to say I’ve probably watched this video at least 3 times...
@fellotransit4431
@fellotransit4431 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for your thorough comparison. I have always wanted a Juno, but now I can just save a couple thousand and get a Deepmind.
@pizzagogo6151
@pizzagogo6151 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 106 an enjoyed this comparison a lot. Seriously considering a deep mind 12 as well - especially because of what it does and the lovely but limited 106 can’t do. As dont think I’d like to take the 106 out of the studio either and you’ve really shown me how the deepmind is a great sounding modern alternative- especially if you need a performance synth! Thanks
@watchmeasifly
@watchmeasifly 5 жыл бұрын
The DM12 is a crazy powerful platform. Highly recommend the 'once upon a synth' channel's DM12 videos. He goes through building sounds from the ground up for all sorts of different tones, really taught me how to get started with, not only, subtractive synthesis, but also the DM12 in general. Def in love.
@MorningView4
@MorningView4 4 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with how similar the chorus sounds on the DM12.
@5amJones69
@5amJones69 3 жыл бұрын
So nice to have a north west lad (if I'm not mistaken) making youtube videos I like. currently living in Leeds so it feels like a little bit of home... also synths!! yay
@sonicbits1890
@sonicbits1890 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you so much! Just got my DM12 and loaded up your bank. Is the pad played at the end also included in the downloadable bank?
@alfiedotwtf
@alfiedotwtf 4 жыл бұрын
This video sold me on it. Bought one, and after the init tweaks, I'm blown away. There's also a Mod Matrix unison hack to get 2 saws! It's a keeper
@offwork2162
@offwork2162 4 жыл бұрын
Could you explain how to do this?
@alfiedotwtf
@alfiedotwtf 4 жыл бұрын
@@offwork2162 See this video, but also the first comment - use "VCA Active" not "VCA ALL" kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKW0qoKbbsiYmsU have fun!
@DanielHuman1996
@DanielHuman1996 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tips like the Juno Chorus setting for Type 1 at speed of .4 and Type 2 speed of 1.5!!!
@connerredden3371
@connerredden3371 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know I missed the portion of the video where you said what preset you started on to get the tone at 31:23, but what is it? I absolutely love it, thank you for making this video!
@chiminh7451
@chiminh7451 4 жыл бұрын
great video. as a new DM12 owner i'm really regretting selling my 106 years ago.
@john-paulsullivan5543
@john-paulsullivan5543 5 жыл бұрын
You could practically buy 3 or four of these for the price of one Juno. I’d imagine that would put you in polysynth heaven if you stacked the sounds and used one controller. And plus you would never have to worry about voice chips going bad. Awesome demonstration 👌
@lownrgy
@lownrgy 4 жыл бұрын
I bought two junos with price of deepmind12
@NZsaltz
@NZsaltz 4 жыл бұрын
@@lownrgy No you didn't.
@JamarConley
@JamarConley 4 жыл бұрын
From my ears, it sounds like there’s some filtering going on with the deepmind. I hear about the same signal coming from both, despite the higher frequencies being cut on the deepmind. I have one, and I’m not an expert but I’ve heard it be as bright as the Juno. I feel like it could easily produce that sound with tweaks.
@paulburkhart2619
@paulburkhart2619 5 жыл бұрын
At around 32:00 wow! Thanks for this, gonna plug these in to my Deepmind 6
@barrydunlop480
@barrydunlop480 4 жыл бұрын
what
@PureAmbientDrone
@PureAmbientDrone 3 жыл бұрын
I have both of these synths and what it comes down to for me personally is the interface of the Juno 106. There is just something else there for me to be inspired. I really do believe the interface of a synth matters to creative flow. Both are great machines though. Great video as always.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. There is something great about an immediate interface. It’s part of what makes the 106 so special... and probably why everyone had one and could handle it enough to always get sensible tones from it. No accidentally knocking the cross mod into spaced out madness!
@Goettel
@Goettel 3 жыл бұрын
Having a single control per function is great for instant gratification, but it's not so great for flexibility. Almost all the control you have on a Juno-106 is directly available on the DM, and then it just adds a metric shit ton more with minimal menu diving. You can also get two of them new for the price of a single 2nd hand Juno-106. We're spoiled in 2020!
@Ceedubbya
@Ceedubbya 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely. Well done!
@justinmerritt3843
@justinmerritt3843 3 жыл бұрын
The rate on the chorus of the deep mind on chorus 2 setting needs to be slightly faster and the depth needs to be turned up. That's the only difference. You can clearly hear the Juno 106 modulating, it's chorus effect it's turned up higher than the deep mind
@_P_M_
@_P_M_ 5 жыл бұрын
Really great tribute to a sound a many of us fell in love with back in the 80's as our introduction to synths. By the end of your video I was zoning out on the pads so hard my eyes got blurry! 8-o
@Benjahlove
@Benjahlove 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned several 106’s, a Jx-3p, & a Juno 6 at different times. I own a deepmind and did a similar comparison with my 3P. You can get reeeeaallly close to recreating the sounds of the others on the deepmind. I sold my Juno6 after I got the Tal plug-in though. It’s spot on. The deepmind is close, but it could be a monster with an updated chorus. As you mention in the video, the tal chorus plugin is superb. The deepmind is it’s own thing- poly chord- built in effects- exstensive modulation matrix- !aftertouch!- and polyphony will make it a future classic . I wish behringer had kept the push button patch recall though!, menu diving for presets is fine in the studio, but not so great live! - and the favorites menu isn’t much help-(User hint: if you want the immediacy of being able to turn on/off the chorus-or any effect, assign the wet/dry signal to one of the faders of env. 3 in the mod. Matrix😉-you’re welcome!)
@nathankirklambo1986
@nathankirklambo1986 5 жыл бұрын
4:38 was all I needed.
@thepeterone
@thepeterone 2 жыл бұрын
5:20 I didn't even know the juno could make a sound like that. That's awesome
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 Жыл бұрын
DEEPMIND 12 is the dream of my Old JUNO 6. 😍😍😍 LOL! So much things added by time, memories, effects, new features, He is not jealous, time is time, technology, prices... But as I'm a old 62 Grand Mother , and didn't have the money in the 90's to buy synths, I will not sold my Juno! It will stand ready to use sometimes, on dedicated stands in a room for 90's materials, and 95's 2000's computers working with old midi keyboards. I have also a Roland Sh 2000, need some job to sound well, but this mono instrument is already used by orchestral musicians on stage, for Bulgarian or Greek folklore!
@robphillips1089
@robphillips1089 5 жыл бұрын
NAILED IT.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
TAL UNO-LX is worth checking out too on the iPad or VST plugin, I'm a former Juno 106 owner, and it is VERY close!
@galifettetv1238
@galifettetv1238 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. We need more legend synth emulations by the deepmind. I m sure he can emulate OBx, P5 and CS80
@Goettel
@Goettel 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the drift parameters get you pretty close to (OB/P5) VCO territory, but the DM's sub is still just a square wave, and the DM's main DCO lacks a mix control for its waveforms. As for the CS80: no, not without the ribbon controller. Get a Hydrasynth plus DM-12 module, and you'll be smiling ; - )
@PeterWalkerHP16c
@PeterWalkerHP16c 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. For a Juno x6x, Behringer - take my money. Also TAL-U-NO-LX is good too.
@byteshiftmusic
@byteshiftmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos made me buy a DM 12 :) I was getting frustrated at first because I couldn't duplicate your sounds here with the same settings, but a firmware update fixed me up! Loving this synth and your videos. Thanks!
@zedwhyex
@zedwhyex 2 жыл бұрын
It's 2022 and I still haven't made up my mind 😵
@fjfrancois
@fjfrancois 5 жыл бұрын
Like you mention before, the 106 has a little bit of more bite on the sound, I think I'm going to buy the DM12d, because is cheaper than the Keyboard. Thank you so much for put in your precious time on these videos 👍👍
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv 2 жыл бұрын
If you use the EQ to bring up the upper mids/highs, and do very subtle saturation, you could give the Deepmind that extra bite. With some careful FX tweaking i’m convinced you could get quite close.
@DaveHoskinsCG
@DaveHoskinsCG 5 жыл бұрын
The waveform is shaped like that because some Bass EQ as been applied to the Oscillator by default, internally.
@jaybignoise6618
@jaybignoise6618 4 жыл бұрын
DM12 , a Juno series spirit with an affordable price, thx Behringer. Killer deal !
@Unifono2012
@Unifono2012 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thanks.
@amazeus1980
@amazeus1980 3 ай бұрын
Dude I can find on your Ytube everything I need!
@toomuchtoofast4533
@toomuchtoofast4533 3 жыл бұрын
Why anyone would pay over $2k for the original is beyond me. Behringer did a wicked job w this unit.
@eyeball226
@eyeball226 3 жыл бұрын
That rounded shape to the saw is some highpass filtering or AC coupling in the signal path. It might not even be audibly attenuating any frequencies at that point but it still affects the shape. That's also the cause of the shape of the DM12's square. You mention it being due to the way the square is derived from the saw, but that is actually the case the squares in pretty much all VCO and DCO synths. The weird shape is caused by filtering in the signal path. My best guess is it's a difference in the way the highpass is implemented between the two. The Juno highpass switches between fixed filters with different cutoff points, so "off" is likely a true bypass. The DM12 one has a variable cutoff, so even when the HP is at minimum it will be filtering some sub 20Hz frequencies. This won't audibly affect the sound but it will remove DC components from waveforms giving you that appearance of the waves curving towards 0V.
@45rpm.
@45rpm. 5 жыл бұрын
Damnit you made me want to get one!
@yebwulebdullah
@yebwulebdullah 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! My chorus sounds quite different though, even using the settings from your part 2 video, weird.
@Owoshima_
@Owoshima_ 5 жыл бұрын
You can also switch from the 4-Pole to the 2-Pole for the VCF. I've found the 2-Pole to give those highs that you were missing when comparing waveforms in the frequency analysis.
@graxjpg
@graxjpg 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@worldofwires9787
@worldofwires9787 3 жыл бұрын
Thx a lot - great help!
@stephenholliday9315
@stephenholliday9315 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, As good as the deepmind is and,yes I do own one,that juno sound is so mesmerising.If carlsberg made synths they would have made the Juno 106.Probably !!!
@jinxypoes1
@jinxypoes1 2 жыл бұрын
i bought the deepmind 12 ,very pleased for that kind of money
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