osu!mapping: first ranked map

summarizing my experiences trying to rank a map as a new mapper and reiterating the importance of choices for someone at this level. similar to the 1 hour long video, i feel like re-enforcing some ideas is gonna be useful for those interested in ranking their first map
my unuploaded maps referenced:
legit first map: www.dropbox.co...
first map aiming for rank (with all the gross diffs): www.dropbox.co...
extra long marathon: www.dropbox.co...
stupid timing diffs: www.dropbox.co...
quadrants: www.dropbox.co...
twitter: / pishifat
patreon: / pishifat
other maps referenced:
Luck Life - Kaze ga Fuku Machi (TV size) by Nevo: osu.ppy.sh/s/7...
earthmind - Another Heaven by Kalibe: osu.ppy.sh/s/5...
android52 - when it rains by Ringating: osu.ppy.sh/b/1...
Annabel - syncretism by Sulfer: osu.ppy.sh/s/7...
android52 - super anime groove 3d world by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/s/5...
Gold Season - Experiment A by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/s/4...
android52 - Platinum Groove by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/s/7...
MiddleIsland - Roze by Lan wings: osu.ppy.sh/b/2...
Torleif Thedeen - Suite Nr.1 G-Dur, BWV 1007 I. Prelude by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/s/1...
Pierce The Veil - May These Noises Startle You In Your Sleep Tonight by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/4...
Infected Mushroom - The Pretender by RLC: osu.ppy.sh/s/7...
SUPER BEAVER - Rashisa by handsome: osu.ppy.sh/b/4...
MY FIRST STORY - Saishuukai STORY by HabiHolic: osu.ppy.sh/s/5...

[@XXneatfreakXX]

I've considered what you have said, but my maps truly are the pinnacle of mapping, so I'm going to have to reject your advice.

[@jeeyongg6401]

You like hololive ur word don’t matter

[@luculia1655]

@@jeeyongg6401 Shut up

[@duccline]

@@jeeyongg6401 wow

[@jeeyongg6401]

@@luculia1655 that was a fucking joke I also like corrupted females

[@luculia1655]

@@jeeyongg6401 how was I supposed to know that you were sarcastic?

[@vertoHUN]

pishi already knew Gold Dust goes with everything back in 2014 Genius

[@OrangeC7]

_He really was just misunderstood_

[@bananya6020]

@@OrangeC7 8:41

[@bananya6020]

3:20

[@seselis1]

"wow, pishifat! there's nothing to mode here"

[@ScubDomino]

1:05 doing monstrata before he was cool

[@swerro9978]

ScubDomino oh yea?

[@hypercyte]

4:23 My modding queue is in a pishifat video i believe that still counts as being in a pishi video, goal achieved. :^)

[@PeterEU]

same here

[@opposite342]

Same lmao....

[@johannr.badion3604]

Ooooo

[@ElMustaccio]

hope this doesn't sound rude or anything, but seeing your first ranked map is kinda giving me hope that I can rank mine lol

[@h0rcrux774]

too bad it's not 2013 anymore, there are much higher standards now

[@ZukaUnare]

@@h0rcrux774 when the reply has more likes than the comment feelsbadman

[@udonthavetoknowmyname]

@@ZukaUnare ratiod

[@lucasgc3585]

@@udonthavetoknowmyname be quiet man this isnt twitter

[@sgz1555]

@@lucasgc3585 ratiod

[@Minib34ts]

If pishifat doesn't say "Enable stacks for the love of all that is holy" at least once in a video, is it even a pishifat video? :bigthink:

[@MrKosiej]

"Most mappers get their first ranked maps after a few months". Excuse me what? I'm 3 years into the mapping, over 30 maps done, countless mods, effort and just now i might get a chance for sth ranked. But even that is a small chance. But i guess, life is rng.

[@zethz161]

MrKosiej Without social connections it would be hard

[@MrKosiej]

ZethStar Steven it's hard even with them. Anyway, i got my ranked map already. That small chance was all i needed i guess xd.

[@bananya6020]

MrKosiej congrats!

[@onto3ma691]

so...you have a ranked map yet

[@MrKosiej]

@@onto3ma691 a few even, patience and improvement payed off.

[@mulraf]

"trust me, i sucked more" - challenge accepted

[@zeronothinghere9334]

Cute patterns www

[@osuology]

When you said that the new BATs came in and a lot of them had already modded your map, I feel like I can never get a ranked map if that's the way things go. I have pretty much never had that happen to me before, not just that but in general I'm completely shut out from the mapping community. Even while modding it seems to just be taken as a "here's your mod, I'm out" sort of deal now. It's really discouraging cause there isn't a way to get into the community without getting ranked map but you need to be in community to do so. Do you think you could make a video in detail about coming into the mapping community?

[@wispy9859]

My head spins faster than Exgon when I look at mapping...

[@hypercyte]

lets be real Ringating best mapper

[@furball_vixie]

lmao

[@CooOOookiez]

hahaha, this video brings me back. i remember ringating too, i believe by that time i was somewhat known with a few ranked maps. I still remember getting background help from him xD

[@ad3z10]

My first act of mapping was timing all 8:30 of Iron Maiden's Dance of Death and, without coming across your videos at that point, It's likely that I would have attempted to map it and go for ranked. Almost ready to publish my first actual mapping atempt so I'm bracing myself for being told it's a complete piece of trash.

[@deso2]

nacht (100) was the first ranked map

[@furball_vixie]

lul

[@vagrant4251]

i dont get the joke but it still makes me laugh for some reason

[@furball_vixie]

He meant That the song called "Nacht 100 Rounds" was the first ranked map

[@mjzpeanut]

wasnt it disco prince by peppy

[@furball_vixie]

zPeanut it was. This is just a meme if u didnt realize

[@pacboy5434]

pishifat the guy who made his first ranked map after his 3 first maps ... meanwile , me 20 maps , a lot of mods and i still suck

[@emrep98]

Hayuza | LoL not realy bats just rank maps from know mappers mostly

[@ariankagrand4467]

Lol ur lucky within the year 7-8 months I've been mapping, I've gotten 2 mods...

[@SakuraKaminari]

I'm at 26 with nothing ranked. Keep your head up!

[@MaemiNoYume]

I HAVE 4 YEARS OF OSU, 65 BEATMAPS AND I STILL SUCK AF

[@kolja783]

pishi 15 minutes wasn't delusional...one of my first maps was 23 minutes long. I promptly gave up after shiirn told me I sucked :d

[@TruTrolldier]

DangerZone classic shiirn probably made sure you knew he was better than you.

[@kolja783]

Nah he was very helpful and I know I'm a better mapper now, since he gave me a lot of awareness to things.

[@keyboard-clickingguy4695]

this helped me out so much, thank u so much!

[@willstoll326]

if you want to get a map ranked, its about who you know, not your skill in mapping. because you have to know someone who can get your map qualified atleast.

[@Ztumpie]

I just now found out that my 1st post on modding is similar to one with yours With a smiley emoji at the end

[@Shimi433]

Hey Pishifat, quick question, what's your thoughts on the map Shotgun Symphony [Impossibly Intense]?

[@jellyfish142]

I kind of recognize myself in this video (I'm a new mapper), but unlike you I haven't done any M4M. I'm just kind of scared to not see a lot of problems in the M4M map, and the guy would be disappointed. So I just try to ask for NMs but they're hard to get... ,_,

[@Sylvarus]

Harakiri_j just do it, everyones first mods suck and the only way to improve is to mod more.

[@mulraf]

i did the same. i didn't want to give something bad in return for something good. i don't know, you can find nm queues from time to time you just have to be really fast. later on i made an own nm queue where i wrote i'm new to modding. because by then i had seen what others critizise on my map and then in return with my nm's i thought 'well they weren't giving anything in return and i wrote i'm new to it so i'm not feeling that bad about it'. worked out rather well, i still don't have a ranked map but 1.) i learned a bit about modding and mapping 2.) i could give something back and 3.) now i'd be at a point where i would be fine with doing m4m.

[@Cruzzap123]

Oh shit you made all those maps from rise against thats why they all have such similar backgrounds

[@PotatoToon]

so, how would you hitsound correctly your first map? seems like you completely missed to explain the first time you tried to hitsound your first ranked map, how hard and how perfect hitsounding has to be?

[@Enju125]

my first ranked mapset when

[@waidi3242]

I´m still new in these, but i´m kinda confused about some things. I wanna rank one difficulty map, i´ve read criteria, it seems to be okay, but still i don´t know how to do it. If i would upload my map to pending process, nobody would see it, and it would get in graveyard soon. I think i don´t know how it works. And i would really like to rank a map

[@imnotchinese6235]

wait is this the tutorial guy

[@Aquatias_]

I’ve wanted to get into mapping for quite some time now (mostly because I’m better as a creator than a player in almost all the games I play) but osu mapping looks very intimidating and I’m worried I’ll give up after I get some feedback on my first beatmap... I also barely understand the editor, so I’m waiting for osu!lazer to come out so I don’t have to learn two editors instead of only one :^)

[@SayaKirasaka]

You probably should start now if your really interested in mapping, because lazer will most likely still need around half a year to even think about a release and the editor itself isnt that complex to begin with. The hard part is to understand the dozens of mapping concepts you need to create a rankable map. And the lazer editor will probably just be a more optimized version of what you're able to look at on the present editor. pishi also made a video and explained the very first steps you take from opening the editor to placing your first note, so I suggest to give that a shot aswell.

[@Aquatias_]

Oh alright, will do so! I also have a break in a week so I’ll be able to focus a bit more on the editor, even though I’m busy with projects in another game :/

[@M8gazine]

It mostly depends on what you want to map. Songs with a lot of BPM changes or offset changes will be hard to even time as a new mapper, so I'd recommend finding a song that has only one BPM throughout it. I think pishifat also recommended for mappers to learn mapping with a "comfortable BPM/song", that being ~175 BPM and DnB, as it usually has a fairly easy to hear rhythm etc. _During_ mapping you don't really need to know much about the 'Timing' panel, main thing you should mess around with is the slider velocity (by default going from 0.5x to 2.0x in Standard) with the timing points, that allows for separate sliders to go at different speeds without requiring halving or doubling the actual BPM just for them. It is fairly hard to get into though, I agree. I've mapped stuff every now and then for about 2 years (closing in on ~80+ random maps) and still stuff can be exhausting or just difficult to make.

[@Aquatias_]

sounds legit

[@Jaksonranger]

There are modding queues? Well shit, now I can actually maybe get a few mods

[@LimeGreenTeknii]

I didn't have much trouble getting my first ranked map. (My first ranked map was back in 2008 when anybody could get ranked)

[@bananya6020]

lol

[@kowanowa7076]

He sounds like the dude in the tutorial ;-;........ or is he?

[@ayakashiboy]

yea he is

[@malevolution7041]

So why am I still trying to rank a 6-minute technical metal song?

[@djmurray6237]

Please give up immediately and map something simple like a random anime opening

[@malevolution7041]

Lol it's been 4 years I've stopped playing since, but I mapped more than half of a 16 minute song, fully mapped a Teminite song, and otherwise don't care about ranking maps Good advice tho

[@DuckRadioOsu]

Hey pishi,could you make a video on sliders perfectly overlapping one another and whether its rankable or not. And if it is rankable than how should it be done? I have made a map diff lately with sliders overlapping one another and had lots of comments about how that pattern is unrankable (not to mention that it was the whole map gimmick). There are lots of complications going on around now with that, since slider perfectly overlapping each other rule has been moved to guidelines. osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/748267/#osu/1576377 This is the map i've been working on, if you needed that example.

[@bananya6020]

if it's a gimmick and people can understand it then there's your reason that it should be allowed, because it's playable and the gimmick fits with the song.

[@cavemann_]

I think the most difficult thing to do is putting theory into practice. So... hey guys, someone made a few mistakes for you to learn off, so, you know, appreciate and good luck.

[@nacout]

IRTS LIKE GOLD DUSTTTTTT

[@josephpreligeraiv6773]

can anyone make this songs ranked "short but seems long time of our life" the song is from fear and loathing in las vegas, i don't want to make it myself cuz i think i'm not good enough to make one and i think no one will ever notice it cuz i'm not popular like monstrata. Hope someone make it ranked 😊

[@jamesm6479]

Just map it yourself and post it in the modding queues, how else are you gonna improve?

[@concernedcommenter8258]

There are modding forums? O h .

[@iwwy04]

i just finished my first map and would like to get different opinions on it. if you would be as kind as to check it out it's called "welcome to the virtual park" by izzykun thanks ;w;

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

can someone please give me the power to map multiple diffs for my maps? I have only one song where I could bring myself to finish more than one diff and all the other ones are unrankable because of that

[@bananya6020]

maybe check with modders to make sure your maps can actually be any good, then make a marathon

[@mansnotprot1544]

I still dont know how to get a map ranked

[@XenoBaby]

What in the world is that cursor...

[@mourice9011]

Why do you sound so familiar

[@ayakashiboy]

osu new tutorial guy

[@archivebrh9854]

Kawaii patterns :3

[@hjedk]

Skin?

[@zyrixia]

Hey pishifat. If I map a original song from a small game is it rankable? And does song choice matter?

[@cieldaube]

enable stacking

[@iplay5855]

Cute pattern owo

[@NevoPlaysGames]

Anime

[@xXChanciXx]

Ban

[@MkingGames]

1-2

[@Stacked_]

Thanks nevo for ranking my anime map ^^

[@MkingGames]

Gottagof4st your map got ranked? :o

[@Konipaku]

Gottagof4st damn congrats

[@RosemaryDeux]

osu!mapping: pishifat

[@elo3624]

I hope have my firts ranked map

[@phaZZi6461]

i dont hate my first ranked map, ha

[@poopatronfire722]

The 1 dislike didn’t get his map ranked

[@dumteaa]

Take a shot every time he says "map".

[@Monster-jg5zk]

6 years ago loooool

[@יואבבןמשה-פ7ד]

Thx about the stacking thing (kill me)

[@CrispyHands]

Sad lyfe. I make the first beatmap with zero experience sience(?) 2016, i make the first map actually and dunno how the rule of mapping did it works. And yeah, my first map got grevyard after i uploadin.

[@ayaya5796]

Tbh we all had that phase

[@infinite_cows]

Hello there!

[@majus_]

I like it :D

[@jutuberz5016]

osu tutorial man

[@suleymantekingurmen7643]

WOODKID!!!! JAKERZ WHEN WILL YOU MAKE IRONKID FOR GD?

[@shigee]

I always pronounce your name as fishyfat ;-;

[@יואבבןמשה-פ7ד]

Rip sliders

[@nedusia8618]

320likes not a single dislike holy what

[@Shippondeiaru]

Hello there

[@Prisinence]

Hahaaa I still haven't gotten my first map ranked and I'm over here like Remapping ..Remapping some more Oh yes I love wasting time ;)

[@slavarubalchenko9794]

What does Vol. in timing mean?

[@JarvisGaming_]

Volume of hitsounds, aka the volume of sound the circles/sliders make when you click them

[@Oqwert]

cute vid

[@habiholic5086]

12:00 my map lol

[@AWESOMEDUDE2311]

0:33 wut

[@georgewashington2736]

oh god... 333 likes 0 dislikes

[@Nekomosh004]

OwO

[@theme20201]

yikes

[@siennasatra2113]

early :)

[@naotnoot27]

no dislikes. I want to dislike so it becomes 1.

[@mr.superdiaper9213]

2:17 somebody tell me what that game is called. I played it as a kid and it throws me back ;-;

[@Ringating]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_Race_64

[@_Niko11001]

just saying, that slider pishi made fun of was rad, dude