lazer updates - January 21, 2023

try lazer for yourself: osu.ppy.sh/home/download
read the full changelog: osu.ppy.sh/home/changelog/laz...
peppy and pishifat walk through some of the most recent changes in lazer!
lazer is the next major update to osu!. learn about it: • what is lazer?
00:00 lazer pp check-in
01:24 gameplay changes
02:49 skin stuff
04:12 UI and user contributions

[@cheycer9784]

ok osu voice man

[@rita-Shi-Mi]

ok osu voice man

[@Josh72769]

ok osu voice man

[@phoer0]

ok osu voice man

[@YukaKiiba]

ok osu voice man

[@crazyrush2138]

ok osu voice man

[@Mess0]

I can't explain how much I love these update videos

[@AlephCubed]

Same. And I don't even play osu lol.

[@masterclass3941]

@@AlephCubed tf

[@Jotsukko]

@@AlephCubed tf

[@menziiiz9127]

@@AlephCubed wat

[@justanotherweeb6915]

@@AlephCubed tf

[@zachmanthethird]

Today is a HUGE win for osu!taiko, finally settling an issue lasting over three years! Hilariously, the footage at 1:31 is completely backward from stable, but I've already talked with the contributor who wrote the PR to fix it. There's lots of lazer conversation surrounding a lot of long-standing issues, and having some contributors, I'm excited to see what the future of lazer holds :D

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

uh, what do you mean back-to-front? it looks correct to me? if it's back-to-front then it needs to be reverted since the goal is to match stable.

[@alexandergermain4719]

@@DeanHerbertMooCow can we have ONE BLOODY WIN WITHOUT PROBLEMS

[@Zitronbtw]

I never understood trying to standardize two completely different modes (standard and mania) to make one more "accessible" to the other, but in the end HP drain is gone from mania 🙌

[@ctrlJov]

pretty sure it was just to get standard users to want to try mania but if we’re being honest all it did was make mania players mad lmao

[@Baguette2Pain]

This has been a long fight, Finnaly it’s over

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

the more things that rulesets share, the better we can develop four+ games as a small team.

[@thatguy5233]

can someone explain to me why HP drain is so bad in osu mania? i didn't play it much but i couldn't imagine it any other way? isn't it good because you can't random key spam?

[@macoykirisame]

@@thatguy5233 since ur hp is draining you're likely to fail a song from missing one note lol

[@Kris-od3sj]

I think quite a sizeable amount of people checked out lazer because of hard linking songs from stable. _Thanks for finally bringing the feature to Linux as well!_

[@know_how_games]

Blood to the Linux gods!

[@ZebbyX]

3:11 MAN I LOVED THIS XDDDDD Awesome update as always tho, I always love the UI changes you guys make, specially with all the new skin elements!

[@cmcooper123]

glad to see this meme still hasn't died

[@Death9208]

72.7k subs to the osu! channel lets go

[@aprilnya]

72.8k now i missed it im killing myself

[@Rickfernello]

It's nice how you're very open about how the development is going! I don't play much osu nowadays but keeping in touch makes me want to pop in every now and then.

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

thanks, i'm glad you're enjoying it as it really takes some effort to make this happen :)

[@Ozzianman]

Not played osu! for years at this point as I stopped playing because my wrist hurt too much. I am tempted to go get my tablet and start playing again, with more moderation ofc.

[@LauroAbreu]

I'm hyped for the multitouch feature, I really want to play on my phone and be able to get pp from it ❤️

[@maiday100]

Now that the kiai has been toned down a bit, I can replace stable with Lazer now. Good job 👍

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

awesome!!

[@nbbz6455]

Maybe you can add a short description in the title of each episode? Maybe like "Lazer updates 21.1.2023 - pp testing and more" or something like that I'm watching every one anyway but I think it will make the videos more accessible and maybe even recommend them to new people

[@DarkHalis9]

I'm really excited to see how osu Lazer turns out! I've been trying to switch over and everything and playing os Lazer is just so much better for live streaming. Keep up all the good work!

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

thanks for your support!

[@Krimek]

I think it's very nice that you respond to feedback and try to make the best decisions from it. Keep up the great work!

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

thanks!

[@MoutonBinoclard]

Oh god!!! Was waiting for a new video for one week. So happy rn !!!

[@minion24]

one thing i'd really like is to use the Nightcore and Daycore mods as a rate change mod with pitch (since in lazer custom rates are a thing) rather than using only the 1.5x/0.75x one and speeding up or slowing down only off of that

[@nick1752]

Agree, but it's actually funny to me seeing that perception of Nightcore as if it is changes pitch. Which in fact it's not. If you're slowing or speeding up something, you're shortening or lengthening waves AND the pitch changes with that. So basically, DT mod or "rate change without pitch change" actually is the "rate change WITH pitch change", because it forcefully changes pitch of sound waves, distorts them, thus making it sound worse (quality loss).

[@hexerade.e6142]

@@nick1752 doesn't matter, in the end nightcore sounds like a changed pitch and doubletime doesn't

[@nick1752]

@@hexerade.e6142 double time does sound distorted af instead

[@hexerade.e6142]

@@nick1752 really depends on the song

[@Apple_Beshy]

Chipmunks enjoyer 😻

[@lewd6764]

2:48 just a word is more than enough information for me to wait for the next relase

[@twhaira]

i don't even play osu! anymore but i love watching these update videos, watching a great rhythm game steadily getting better and better with the help of the community, it's great

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

[@bone_dragon]

i think a font selection for the UI elements would be nice

[@supernenechi]

Let's gooo! More Lazer updates! I have been using Lazer for a long time now, having fully switched. Every update is exciting (although not a little scary, sometimes it breaks Linux) because they always bring awesome new updates, often to things that have been bugging me for a while too. One feature I really want in the skin editor (that I haven't found maybe) is to revert to what it was. Sometimes you accidentally move something with your tablet pen and then if you press escape it just saves your changes.

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

glad you're enjoying the journey. more skin editor features like undo are definitely needed, i agree.

[@supernenechi]

@@DeanHerbertMooCow Awesome that you're also interacting here! I'll be looking forward to seeing those features make their way round. I'm not sure I have the time to delve into C# to make it myself tho xD

[@cloud786x8]

Something I would love to see is an separate in-game UI that isnt displayed on the player's screen, but can be captured by OBS so I dont have to use 3rd party apps, but I wont be distracted by all the numbers while playing

[@triggr_]

sounds like something only a 3rd party app can do

[@def750_person]

@@triggr_ nope, it is possible

[@TD2T]

@@def750_person they are basically describing third party apps "but made by first party"

[@dfghh]

i'm sure a lot of people would love the introduction of "menu skins". then everyone gets to skin and organize the menu hoever thyy want.

[@dorianeu]

4:04 YAAAY I was gonna suggest that

[@shade0636]

This looks good. I'll try out the new updates.

[@TheOliverBoy]

I feel like peppy should add a little old school osu easter egg in the menu somewhere. it would feel really fun :D

[@brogamer_yuri]

Like when you open the game theres a chance for the main osu title to appear as the old one

[@OnorevoleMarco]

Thank you everyone for making such a cool new shiny client that is now the main one for me

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

[@smauguh]

Oh geez I wish I could see the end of this final slider so much- Nice update tho, can't wait to try it!

[@AtMasasi]

0:14 yeah we love pregnant points

[@kapi4546]

0:38 osu story mode could be something better than taking new players to the game with no knowledge about the game and just maps

[@_Kori]

lol

[@nitelitevtuber]

i barely play alot of osu anymore, but these update videos are so goddamn interesting i watch them every time a new update comes out

[@kibocentric]

props to that guy who put osu story mode in the feedback sections 💀

[@AveryChow]

imo there should be a "touch" mod that makes the hit circles bigger and allows you to tap off to the side, similar to the "difficulty adjust" mod except it doesn't half your score. then, you can filter out touch scores on the leaderboard maybe

[@Sinaeb]

please do implement kiai flash toggle :3 (the flashing whitesout taiko notes which reduces differences between colors)

[@PinotNoir_]

I just wanna look up lazer on KZbin and got this notif lol, great timing. And btw 72.7K subs..

[@Lazuley_]

That's great, can't wait for full mobile multitouch to come!

[@scemmerjoke]

story mode seems like a good way of tracking player progression.

[@Quiel245]

Lazer progressing, nice~

[@Aethertenshi]

5:04 dead love with that ui man

[@thesecretcreeper9859]

I LOVE THE SKIN EDITOR

[@justanobody1726]

i tried to play last update but something felt off about the gameplay, maybe it was the kiai flashing so im definitly gonna try this update

[@strollas]

wow it all coming together

[@nebuladevelopments]

These videos are amazing..

[@loquendino]

3:26 What a fantastic adition, it's very cool!!. Do you think a similar meter could be made, but instead of accuracy, it would show the max score possible? I always fantasized with one while playing mania!

[@MHX11]

lol the cut off „goodbye“ at the end

[@hufuhufu]

Yes! Updates!

[@paper2222]

3:12 OH MY GOD THAT'S MY BEATMAP

[@daleryanaldover6545]

the best cut never exi-

[@krazykeano1222]

I checked the channel a few minutes before this video no way

[@savior-]

please add a toggle for the background lighting for misses, 50s, and 100s on the argon skin. it almost resembles hit lighting and its extremely offputting sometimes when playing, if it was just the "OK" and "GREAT" text by itself with no lighting effects it would be perfect

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

coming

[@doctaterror]

Honestly didn't even know Lazer existed till I got recommend this lol

[@sharanoth]

I AM NOT OVERSTREAMING 222 BPM

[@Donpa07]

osu has the most beautiful UI i ever seen. goodjob osu voice man

[@gaspar7121]

Will there ever be an alternative score and pp system that won't depend on combos, or won't depend on combos as much as it does now? I do not propose to replace one with another, but to make a separate leaderboard for this, for example, as in mania, catch or taiko.

[@txthys]

still would appreciate an actual toggle for kiai since it gets on my nerves while playing on stable, but the fix is still very nice to have.

[@letsgoaway]

0:13 greatest sentence of all time

[@LiquidPL]

"goodby-" - pishifat, 2023

[@pedroengelmann6798]

this is the first time I have seen an osu update video and I haven't felt the urge to play osu in the last years. needless to say, I am gonna go click some circles.

[@Daemonll]

Awesome!

[@mekafinchi]

The one and basically only thing currently preventing me from switching to lazer as a mania player is the fact that mania skin imports are just completely broken, like astoundingly so. A bunch of elements are rotated the wrong way, placed in absurd positions, and one even has a long black bar that just wasn't there before. The skin editor is of no help in its current state either. Any info on when non-std imports will be worked on?

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

Please share your skin with us as we aren’t aware of any of this (apart from hacky long notes, which we are aware of and will eventually figure a way to fix)

[@mekafinchi]

@@DeanHerbertMooCow where can I do this?

[@junny3685]

@@mekafinchi github issue probably

[@mekafinchi]

@@DeanHerbertMooCow I've created a github issue the wording here is definitely a bit exaggerated, but it's based on what I remembered from a month ago; when I last tried after the previous lazer update video.

[@javecalbert]

I stop playing osu Lazer for 2 month ago and now I should prob get that back

[@CiiTiiZzeN]

3:11 NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@_Kori]

what are those emotes lmao

[@joelhagdahl5769]

3:09 AIN'T NO WAY???

[@danieldogadajev1545]

3:56 finally it was fixes my eyes hurts every time I play lazer, next step is fixing frame stutters

[@kayziix9618]

2:09 they way he said that hahaha

[@thirdeyelight53]

i love how much they are adding to osu this is why osu is my favroitegame

[@xyzain_1827]

Those lazer skins look so clean!

[@albert_d9]

can we have the old star2.png kiai time interaction as a toggle instead of it just being available on relax mod etc? I really miss it :(

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

yeah, definitely needs to come back.

[@Littlefighter1911]

Yeah for example for Random, there are quite a lot of variants of maps that are easier to pass with Random. For example take the Insane Diff of Masterpiece for example and you'll find that the square jumps get replaced with jumps that are much easier to read. Same goes for many old map, mostly the ones in "Lesjuh", "Nogard" diffs or take "Aurora 2" for example. Or other maps which are hard to read, because they place circles like 1,3,2 (distance wise). Or hard to hit because they place the circles just a tiny bit too far towards the screen edges and your mouse would normally nearly fall off there. But Random doesn't care, it puts it there where most people would expect it. These maps lose most of their gimmicks through Random, which makes Random a much safer diff to play with maps, that you've never touched before. (I've passed "Banned Forever" first try on "Nogard", despite me struggling for years to clear that one) I think that although it shouldn't influence given pp (I have enough confidence that the PP system is solid enough to handle the different map), that the achieved score should be moved to a separate tab, as you can't really compare two different beatmaps with the same difficulty to each other.

[@hel2508]

The moment i can stream in phone im moving to lazer immediately from droid

[@Nekomosh004]

lazer update!!!! \o/

[@Johnny555_Arcaea_charter]

I feel like some UI changes are inspired by the new Windows 11 operating system. The rounded edges, the bold text, and much more!

[@enyo-osu4858]

goodb-

[@M1gas]

beautiful

[@Apple_Beshy]

Love it

[@Kynan383]

3:40 THANK YOU Also wtf this looks so good to me pls give 5:04

[@WrickNizara]

Man, the only thing that make me stay on osu! instead of osu!lazer is the lag that I feel on lazer. In the osu! Is around 60 to 70 fps, and in the lazer is like 10 to 20 fps

[@ilastv]

Same

[@ItsPForPea]

Yooo now I'll finally be able to FC endless tewi ma park 🎉🎉🎉

[@AureliaFerichella]

Man explaining about osu!droid, But showing us opsu clip at 2:28. I'm crying to heard it as osu!droid player 😭

[@muneebhaider2286]

pp is like the scooby snack for osu players they will do it for the pp

[@draais]

i just got osu for my macbook and it amazing :D

[@handsomebear.]

I hope they give us a toggle for the flashing part of the key overlay. It's _incredibly_ distracting... I know I can turn the whole key overlay off but _I want_ to have it on.

[@daysofthunder6110]

The design is getting updated

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

the key overlay design will change! the new version has less flashing.

[@aprilnya]

0:40 "version for freebsd" nahhhhhhh

[@abdullahalmasri612]

I liked the old progress bar more :c

[@ItzStardustYT]

I'm going to osu all over

[@darkbuddy413]

lets gooo NO MORE HP DRAIN FOR MANIA!!!!!!!!!1!!11!1! this deserves a subscibe

[@NiekNooijens]

Well I need one specific update: my wacom A530 touchscreen in Linux works perfectly, until I start up osu. For some reason, osu has the X and Y coordinates flipped, so it registers top left, if I touch bottom right. Other than that the wayland tablet driver works fine, however it's not detected as tablet, so I can't flip the input coordinates in the settings....

[@_UberEats_]

guys i have a suggestion: since the prehistoric dinosaur era skin will include the old osu! start menu, make the current default skin the normal logo

[@pizzastock111]

OMG you were also a dinosaur when you started osu????

[@anemoneno1_]

gooby-

[@convoysc441]

CUSTOM RES IN TAIKO WOOOOOO

[@thatoneguyontheinternet5545]

I’m so sad this is the first one in a while o have not seen day one :(

[@DaMeMeThEiFxD4712]

1:42 now I know why I didn't fail on STRONG 280 7keys on mania LMAO

[@elizarr3069]

Been playing osu lazer for the past year and had no idea this happened till now lmao

[@gipsy45]

Still waiting for performance updates, I really want to be able to run this at 60fps :p

[@gonzalobruna7154]

they're coming, work is being done in the backgroud

[@Act_True]

Could've swore there were more Lazer users before the update

[@Fakedis]

I would love to be able to export the argon skin, i want to make the slider body smaller because of no apparent reason

[@Hexality]

But you can The thing with argon is that the actual gameplay elements (e.g.: circles/slider gradients) are hardcoded, not an actual texture.

[@Fakedis]

@@Hexality oof, so they just did that. To be honest that's a bit underwhelming. And when I tried to export the skin through normal methods i couldn't and I only wanted to do it because I wanted to know if I could add new things in the skin.ini but oh well

[@Baguette2Pain]

Omg hype

[@iamtsukiya]

3:57 thank god finally

[@astraha.]

5:55 GOOD BY-

[@MarzOsu]

i jumped out of my chair when i read lazer updates

[@agatemosu]

I knew that this song select was not going to have so much info :(

[@-aku2805]

Why can I not post comments on the integrated website? Also, being able to copy the web link from the integrated website to copy in text chats for example would be very useful