Ottoman Turkish vs Modern Turkish

Ottoman Turkish (لسان عثمانى) was the form of Turkish that was spoken during the time of the Ottoman Empire. In comparison to modern Turkish, the Ottoman era language contained a lot more Arabic and Persian words, with some estimates putting the use of Arabic and Persian vocabulary as high as 88% of the Ottoman vocabulary in some texts.
In this video we take a look at how well modern Turkish speakers can understand Ottoman Turkish, with Engin and Bünyamin as the Turkish speakers, and Can, representing Ottoman Turkish.
Please note, the texts that Can is reading in this video are from the late Ottoman era.
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It's interesting to note that since the Arabic words in Ottoman Turkish were borrowed through Persian, they possess a typical Persian phonology, and their usage and pronunciation at times differs greatly from the original Arabic. The degree of the use of Arabic and Persian loanwords in Ottoman Turkish also played a role in the form of its varieties, which were typically classified into Fasih Türkçe (Eloquent Turkish), Orta Türkçe (Middle Turkish), Kaba Türkçe (Rough Turkish). The Fasih Türkçe contained a lot more Persian and Arabic loanwords, and it was the language of poetry and administration.
As far as the development of the language, it typically falls into three stages historically, starting with the Eski Osmanlı Türkçesi (Old Ottoman Turkish) which was more or less the same as the Seljuk empire and Anatolian beyliks' language, and it was used until the 16th century. Later on, the Orta Osmanlı Türkçesi (Middle Ottoman Turkish) or Klasik Osmanlıca (Classical Ottoman Turkish) developed, and used for literature and poetry, as well as administration of the Ottoman Empire. The later stage, known as the Yeni Osmanlı Türkçesi (New Ottoman Turkish) began to develop in the 19th century.
The Turkish language (Türkçe), which is also referred to as Istanbul Turkish, is the most widely spoken of the Turkic languages, with most of its native speakers living in Western Asia, and significant group of speakers in Germany, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Northern Cyprus, Greece, the Caucasus, and other parts of Europe and Central Asia. Ottoman Turkish, which was a variation of the Turkish spoken today, influenced many parts of Europe during the time that the Ottoman Empire expanded. When the modern Turkish republic was established, as part of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk's reforms, many Persian and Arabic loanwords were replaced with Turkic equivalents, and the Ottoman Turkish alphabet was replaced with a Latin alphabet. Today, Turkish is recognized as a minority language in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Greece, Iraq, Macedonia, and Romania.
The Turkic languages consist of over 35 different documented languages, originating from East Asia. Turkish has the highest number of native speakers out of all Turkic languages. There is a high degree of mutual intelligibility among the various Oghuz languages, which include Turkish, Azerbaijani, Turkmen, Qashqai, Gagauz, Balkan Gagauz Turkish and Oghuz-influenced Crimean Tatar.

[@BahadorAlast]

Please note that the texts in this video are from the late Ottoman era, and also important to distinguish between the varieties, with the Fasih Türkçe (Eloquent Turkish) variety being the form that was for the most part the language of poetry and administration, and not used by all citizens. If you're interested in participating in a future video, please follow and message me on Instagram: instagram.com/BahadorAlast

[@user-sb6xo8yq8p]

Здраствуйте Бахадур! Я много смотрел ваши видео но не увидел сравнения славянских языков. Я бы с удовольствием посмотрелбы конференцию между Белорусами, Украинцами, Поляками, Балгарами, Русскими и т. п.

[@hakanbaybars4435]

سنین یاپتیگین ویدئویی سیکیم

[@a2zsolutions976]

why dont you make a video about zaza language? we are 4-5 million people who speaks irani language even they say this is Avesta language.

[@Abeturk]

ETİMOLOJİ ÇALIŞMALARI.. Bal (Honey)> Mel >Mil >Meli > Melit > Melis =(yumuşak, hoş kokulu, tatlı / yummy, mellow, balmy, malleable, dessert) >>>> Melon Al-Bal (Red-dessert) =Alpal (Apple) >Afal >Almel> Alme > Alma Mel-ak ((White-dessert)>Mela >Mal >Mar >Milo> Melam >>>Milk Melah + Almel = Elma =Apple Meltem= mellow wind = breeze Mel-melat = marmelat = marmellata Melisa = balm / jam / rosin Melamine = chemical resin (Mel-hem) merhem=(almost-balm) > ointment (Mel-sumac) mercimek = lentil Mel-audio = melody (tow/tao/tai/tav/tağ)>> Dağ =mountain /~塔 / 高 /ضيقة (dar /tar /dai /tai /tav /tao /too /toi) Dar = narrow / nearest /stuck / compressed / solid / hard / durable Dar = birbirine yaklaşmış / sıkışık / sıkışmış / sıkıştırılmış / sağlam / sert / dayanıklı Darlık= sıkışarak yükselmek, yükseklik hissi, sıkışma duygusu Dağ= litosferik tabakaların sıkışarak yükselmesi / compression and rise of lithospheric layers Dar-lık= to rise upwards by squeezed, feeling of height, feeling of being squeezed Dar = yakın olmak , alakalı olmak, ilgilenmek / to be close, to be involved, to be interested Hüküm-dar = Hükümle ilgili olan , hüküm veren Mühür-dar = Mührü yanında olan , mühürle ilgilenen Mihman-dar = Misafire yakın olan , misafire alaka gösteren Darülaceze = Acizerle ilgilenen Dai-u > nearest he's = Dayı = uncle Toy = meeting /ceremony/feast/ immature-game boy (Dai-emek)> Dayamak =to base on /make it support/fasten down (Dai-en-mak)> Dayanmak= to recline upon /be close literally / stay strong (Dai-et-mak)>Dayatmak = to impose / insist Volkanik, yanardağ ile ilgili Dağ-et-mak >Dağıtmak = to distribute /to deal out / to deploy Dağ-al-mak >Dağılmak = to get dispersed / to go to pieces Dağ-la-mak = krater şekline çevirmek / cauterize Phone / Phoon/ Fun / Wajan / Wehen = Ses /Rüzgar /Esinti Dae-vane /tao-fun / too-fan/ tae-phone/ typhoon = (loud sound) > hard-strong wind Quluq / gülük / quluk, gülk, ( kuluçka hayvanı =hatching poultry/ winged animal) Tai-quluk / Tao-qulk / Taw-gülük >Tav-guk >Tayuk / Tavuk = chicken / hen (Toğuşgan) Taw-eşqen > Tabışgan / Tavuşğan >Tavuşan > Tavşan = rabbit / hare Tas= yuvarlak kase, kafa şekli, kafa iskelet yapısı Toslamak = kafayı çarpmak, şekli şemali bozulmak. Taslamak= yüzünün şekli değişmek, tavır yapmak, tarz, davranış göstermek Tosarmak= tavır değiştirmek, morali bozulmak Tasarmak = tavır göstermek, yüz şeklini değiştirmek Taslak = nihai bir şekle ulaşmamış plan, proje Tasarı =Tasfir , zihinde şekillendirilmiş görsel, (konsept, tasavvur) Tasarım= dizayn Tasarlamak = Plan proje haline getirmek, zihinde nihai bir şekle sokmak Bak-ak= Bağ alaka kuracak şey > baka, buka Baga= Alaka ( göbek bağı) / cenin Boğa = Boğazlanarak kurban edilen (Buga > Buhag > Pigah> 피해자> Pig) Tosun= kızgın boğa Tos-bağa/ Kaplumbağa =Bir kafa tasında saklı canlı / Kapalı bir kaseye bağımlı / Kurbağa = Kıra bağımlı , kırda saklanan canlı Tas signifies a round bowl, head shape, or the skeletal structure of the head. Toslamak refers to hitting the head or disrupting its shape. Taslamak involves changing one's facial expression, demeanor, or behavior. Tosarmak indicates changing one's attitude or mood negatively. Tasarmak means to show an attitude or change one's facial expression. Taslak denotes an unfinished plan or project. Tasarı is akin to conceptualization or visualization. Tasarım refers to design. Tasarlamak involves turning a plan or project into a concrete form. Bak-ak implies something that will establish a connection or interest. Baga is associated with umbilical cord or fetus. Boğa refers to a bull, often used in sacrificial contexts. Tosun is a term for a raging bull. Tos-bağa/Kaplumbağa signifies a creature hidden in a head-shaped structure or dependent on a closed bowl. Kurbağa suggests a creature dependent on marshes or hiding in the field. Dağ: Means mountain and may relate to the compression and rise of lithospheric layers. Dar: Signifies narrowness, closeness, involvement, and durability. It can also connote being compressed or stuck. Darlık: Suggests rising upwards by being squeezed, conveying a feeling of height or compression. Darülaceze: Indicates a place concerned with the care of the destitute, aligning with the theme of being close or involved. Dayı: Refers to an uncle, potentially signifying someone who is close or near. Toy: Denotes a meeting, ceremony, or feast, possibly reflecting the idea of coming together or being close. Dayamak: Means to base on or make support, reflecting the concept of leaning or being close for support. Dayanmak: Signifies to recline upon or stay strong, indicating reliance or being close in a literal sense. Dayatmak: Implies to impose or insist, potentially suggesting a close influence or pressure. Dağıtmak: Means to distribute or deal out, involving the spreading or dispersal of something. Dağılmak: Indicates getting dispersed or going to pieces, reflecting the opposite of being close or compact. Dağlamak: Suggests to cauterize or turn into a crater shape, possibly relating to the transformation or alteration of something.

[@khashayarnn]

برام همیشه سواله قبل از انقلاب حرف (Harf inkilabi) که توسط آتاتورک انجام شد و برخی حروف حذف شدن، حروف (ق)،(خ)،و همچنین حرف( َ) در در ترکی قدیم آیا مثل فارسی درست تلفظ می شدن؟ مهمانان شما حرف (ق) را مثل (ک) تلفظ میکردن و (خ) رو شبیه یک (ه) غلیظ می گن و به جای حرف( َ) از حرف( ِ) استفاده می کنن که در ترکی استانبولی فعلی این شکلی هست. مثلا (قاسم) رو (کاسم) تلفظ می کنن یا به خرما (هورما) میگن. من گشتم ولی هیچ رکورد صوتی از دوران عثمانی که این موارد توش تلفظ بشن پیدا نکردم ممنون می شم راهنمایی کنید.

[@sarahlouisa5284]

A lot of words are recognisable for arabic speakers: first text : طريق path, way or street طبخ cook مطلوب needed المقدار amount بعد after التطهير making saint or clean ساعت ( ساعة) hour ترك Leave فصوليه(فاصولياء) kidney beans بقلة in some Arabic dialects Fava علاوه also عسل honey شكر ( سكر ) sugar وضع put تناول take or eat

[@ayy1ld1z]

as a turk i understood maybe 2 words from what you named lol

[@The_WanderingRonin]

I understand little bit Turkish, I think Saat, Fasuliye and miktar are common words in Turkish @@ayy1ld1z

[@ignatiuskaspo9438]

طبعا الجذر نفسه بس أعتقد المقصود هو طريقة الطبخ وليس الطريق

[@uncleuncle3196]

I’m Syrian Turkmen I understood everything in Ottoman Turkish perfectly 100% it’s the same language we speak

from where in syria ? I´m actually also a syrian and i thought most of our turkmens don´t speak turkish anymore. Greetings from a Syrian from salamyia!

[@zay4081]

In Iraq the same thing , Iraqi Turkmen also speak ottoman Turkish , I’m Arabic but I lived with Turkmen

[@user-fn1qb2ps5k]

Wow! I love this channel for introducing us to languages we've never heard of. As a Tajik speaker, I did not pick up many recognizable words from the first part of the paragraph. But, the second part of the paragraph had many Persian or common Arabic words, I think. I can't read the Arabic letters, but these are some words I was able to hear: ba'd (later, then) tariq (method, way) otash (fire) asal (honey) miqdor (amount) shakar (sugar) soat (hour) tark [kardan] (to leave) birinj (rice). It is interesting that it becomes pirinj. ilova [kardan] (to add) tabaq (a plate?) bodom (almonds) tanovul [kardan] (to eat, to consume). Thank you Bahador and participants for taking time to create these videos 😊

[@ebuuuu2833]

Except bad Asel and tenavül these words using in modern Turkish.

[@jonam7589]

not all the persian and arabic words from the Otooman time were removed after Ata turk.@@ebuuuu2833

[@winstonsmith09]

Thanks for sharing this, very valuable!

[@winstonsmith09]

Some of these phrases are still used in Turkish, but the pronunciation is different. Soat = "Saat," Birinj, = "pirinch" ilove, = "ilave," Bodom, = "Badem"

[@thraciensis3589]

Otash =ateş in Turkish.

[@StevenHuynh203]

Hi bahador, this is Steven here I always enjoyed your videos. You always research and people to help with these videos.

[@TheNera2010]

These texts are written in a technical way. The cook book writer tried to write like an engineer. This is technical cookery language. In the Ottoman era, if educated Turks were talking or writing for a technical profession like science, arts, juristic, engineering ... they would use lots of terms and words which came from Arabic and Persian. This situation started way before Ottomans, when the Turks had their first Islamic State (Karahanli). Daily language was different. Ottoman era daily life Turkish was very similar today's daily life Turkish.

[@AJ-pc9gu]

It's hard to say that after the massive turkification efforts, hundreds of Arabic words were removed in addition to changing the script. The idea of elites speaking differently from commoners is correct, but in the case of Turkish A LOT changed after the ottoman empire fell.

[@zay4081]

I’m Arabic and when I watched first time a Turkish series (Istanbul language) I understood many words like Arabic But when I heard rural Turkish, it is very similar to Arabic and for some areas of the Black Sea I find the language it very difficult.

[@TWOCOWS1]

Very nice work. Thank you Bahador

[@khalid_ibn_masud8985]

This is the video I’ve been waiting for ❤🐎🏹

[@thraciensis3589]

Thank you, Bahador for this. Interesting indeed! The language of Sublime Porte/Ottoman court changed and varied throughout the centuries. In 19th century, there were so many international French vocabulary already entered into the court and every day language, including centuries old Roman Greek, Venetian and Genoese elements. ( The languages of the independent states of Venice and Genoa in today's Italy) The old Ottoman poetry or legal language differed than regular life Ottoman Turkish. Real life, every day speech had times more Turkic based vocabulary and lexical terms. People most of the time confuse every day Ottoman Turkish with Ottoman divan poetry, legal affairs, etc.- Turkish. The later was used by very limited people, not by most of the public.There was also famous very important extensive non-divan Ottoman poetry by famous bards that was mostly Turkic lexically.

[@jonam7589]

The official administration language was Persian!

[@thraciensis3589]

@@jonam7589 Persian was not the administrative language.That is a misinformation. Administrative language was Ottoman Turkish. You are confusing with Seljukid Empire!

[@hakanbaybars4435]

@@jonam7589 You know nothing about Ottoman Empire, little poorsian

[@manoochehrmilaniturkish]

Fascinating video. I was always interested in Ottoman Turkish 😃

[@KameraArkasiTV]

I love your work Bahador 💪🏼

[@1l2boy1l2girl]

Very interesting..round 2 pleeeaaase

[@jayjaynouma]

Very interesting👏🏼👌🏼

[@danielyasin5054]

Hey Bahador! Great video, would love to see you cover some Uyghur.

[@TOBY001]

I'm Uzbek and I can understand it pretty good 👍🏻

[@Elijah44239]

Very nice video ❤

[@oumaima353]

As always great video Bahador! It was easy to understand as a native arabic speaker who learnt a bit of turkish.

[@hakanbaybars4435]

سیکتیر شرفسیز

[@ugur4511]

Ottoman Turkish is the written language of the palace. This language is not the same as the Turkish spoken in Anatolia and the Balkans. In fact, until the 1500s, there was no difference between the palace language and the public language. Especially after the reign of Sultan Selim, the palace language began to differentiate with the intense influence of Arabic and Persian. The Ottomans even began to use Arabic and Persian phrases. For example, I understood the Turkish written in 1480, but it is really difficult to understand the Palace language written even 150 years ago.

[@HardCore_Islamist]

Sources please? This sounds like kamalist lie

[@perikiz6940]

it's not a lie. The educated class aka Palace and govt officials spoke Ottoman Turkish. The peasants spoke Turkish@@HardCore_Islamist

[@ekmekdusmani]

​@@HardCore_IslamistTamam birader Osmanlı hep senin gibi araptı biz de Arapça konuşuyorduk sonra Atatürk geldi Türkçeyi uydurdu. Duymak istediğin tam olarak bu muydu yoksa daha da abartayım mı?

[@ekmekdusmani]

​@@HardCore_IslamistTemel düzeyi bırak tarihe giriş falan bu yazan bilgiler, bilmiyorsan milleti yalancılıkla itham etme. Son 20 senede yapay bir şekilde türetildiniz nereden geliyor bu öze düşmanlık?

[@teknoyldrm3238]

​@@HardCore_IslamistBre oruspu evladı halk niye arapça konuşsun amk

[@johnhadzipetros1831]

So interesting!

[@f1aziz]

As an Urdu speaker, I had very little trouble reading Ottoman Turkish and pick up a few words, but that's our relationship with Farsi, Arabic and Turkish as Urdu speakers.

[@MarcantonioStanga]

Urdu is a majority Indic language

[@f1aziz]

@MarcantonioStanga What do you mean by that?

[@MarcantonioStanga]

@@f1aziz Urdu is an Indic language. It is overwhelmingly influenced by other Indic languages, primarily languages of northern India. It is a creole derived of those northern Indian languages, but it has a lot of Persian loanwords. Urdu itself has been influenced by a lot of political posturing. The British promoted it to counter-act Persian-influence. Post-partition leaders have tried to hyper-Persianise it to differentiate itself from Hindi's influx of Sansrkit. Zia ul Haq then tried incorporating more Arabic loanwords to replace Persian for geopolitical reasons, and now much of the lay Urdu-speaking population uses a lot of English, thanks to Pakistan's emphasis on English and reverence for western/American culture. A more accurate description of Urdu's relations with other languages would be Sanskrit, Deccani, and English; not Turkish, Persian, and Arabic.

[@f1aziz]

@MarcantonioStanga you probably should have left it at being a language originated in what's now Central India.

[@MarcantonioStanga]

@@f1aziz My point is that many Urdu-speakers tend to say that it's an amalgamation of Persian, Arabic, and Turkish. When the influence of those languages is primarily loanwords, when the entire syntax, grammar, and development of the language, as well as the majority of the vocabulary, is derived of other Indian/Indic languages,

[@erkan4108]

There is a very important fact about Ottoman Turkish for those who are curious about it. Lisân-ı Osmâniyye (Ottoman Turkish), was a respectful and ornate language of text and literature used by the Ottoman ruling class and educated elite, was not a language spoken in daily life. Even folk poets did not use this language, because a special education was needed to use and understand this language.

[@54321ali]

Tahsili insanların lisanı her zaman tahsilsiz insanların lisanından daha zengin olur. Bugün de Türkiye'de yüksek tahsilli insanlar ilkokul mezunu olanlardan daha fazla İngilizce ve Fransızca kelime kullanıyorlar. (Bu kelimelerin çoğu temelde Yunanca ve Latince) Sadece hukuk okuyanlar Osmanlı Türkçesi kullanıyorlar. 500 sene önceki atalarımız ilimde öncülüğü henüz kaybetmedikleri için başka lisanlardan kelime almaya ihtiyaç hissetmiyorlardı.

[@HamzaPKR]

Many of these Arabic and Persian loan words were also borrowed by Urdu. As an Urdu speaker it was very interesting how much more Ottoman Turkish I understood than modern Turkish.

[@turko4ever7252]

Turkish is an ethnicity“ Arap is an mixed people who speak an language“ so it can’t be that Turks use anything from the arap language when Turks conquered all arap county’s not araps this is an fact.

[@Karla_1987]

@@turko4ever7252 not all arab countries , turk didn’t invade my country ..

[@turko4ever7252]

@@Karla_1987 wich Muslim country do Turks not conquered? Thanks to ottoman’s there exists today 1.3 billion Muslims“ Claim“ I don’t say it is good what the ottomans did.

[@indetif839]

Try Indonesia, Malaya (Malaysia) You might also count several African countries sub-Sahara.@@turko4ever7252

[@Karla_1987]

@@turko4ever7252 UAE .. and no .. the worst state in Islamic history is the ottoman era. N

[@Soap_bubbles591]

جالب بود ،سپاس

[@user-gb6ts7kq8o]

تو زبون روسی спасибо [سپاسیبو] معنی ممنون یا سپاس است. می دونم که با این کلمه ارتباط داره.

[@Soap_bubbles591]

@@user-gb6ts7kq8o دقیقا

[@Soap_bubbles591]

@@user-gb6ts7kq8o بله دقیقا👌

[@IRANIAN7000]

کلمه سپاس از زبان پارسی میانه آمده است و ارتباطی با زبان روسی ندارد و شما اشتباه میکنید این کلمه ریشه اش به زبان های ایرانی تبار میرسد@@user-gb6ts7kq8o

[@saadsalman6641]

Being Urdu speaker from Pakistan, I enjoyed it alot. Most Arabic loan words mentioned herr in ottoman turkish are used in urdu too.

[@chasejames5081]

Interesting video. Some of my ancestors were fron Poland, and the Ottoman Empire and Persia were the only two countries who opposed it's partitions in the 18th century.

[@rayanebeddar9152]

Because the empress Hurrem of the Ottoman Empire was born in small village in Poland kingdom and her daughter always was texted the king of Poland

[@Xafee_]

Search for poland ambassador tradition in Ottoman Empire

[@Xafee_]

​@@rayanebeddar9152this can't be the Real reason. Countries look out for their advantage in every situation

[@user-qo1xg5oq7e]

من اهل ایرانم میشه بیشتر توضیح بدید

[@BassHelal]

Excellent video as always Bahador! I have always wanted a video covering Ottoman Turkish but this language is usually relegated to Republican Turkish language social circles, there is quite a large gap for those interested in Ottoman Turkish through another language other than Republican Turkish. I am actually surprised at the relatively few number of Arabic and Persian words in these texts, I have read some Ottoman texts (mostly dictionaries and history books) where there is a very large number of Persian and Arabic to the point where I could understand the entire text with ease. For context I know Literary Arabic and Classical Persian to a high level but only have a basic understanding of Turkic (mostly grammar), naturally I had difficulty understanding the texts here due to the large amount of Turkic vocabulary. Indeed, this is indicative of a later Ottoman style and being written by (or towards) less educated people (in the classical sense). Early Ottoman texts were for and by the educated which were always people highly proficient (or at least educated) in both Persian and Arabic , this tradition begun to fade later on as literacy increased and Arabic and (more so) Persian began to lose status and be seen as foreign as well as the native Turkish gaining more social status. I believe this was around the 18th century when it really started to show but I might be wrong. I greatly appreciate everyone's effort on this video, this is a topic I am extremely passionate about.

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

just like nobality of russia used to speak french

[@hopewish15]

Ne güzel ifade etmişsiniz 👏

[@thraciensis3589]

Famous bards used their spiritual or other topics in their poetry that was mostly in Turkic lexically in Ottoman times.

[@focusontheargument]

The more you were educated, the less the gap. Same with any other language in the world.

[@indetif839]

For all of you arguing about what is Turkish and what is not , all linguists throughout the world use GRAMMAR as the standard to determine what language belongs to which language family. This is mentioned right in the video at 29:42 . There are many examples where languages borrow varying amounts of vocabulary from other languages, but their original grammar remains, and that is how the language is categorized.

[@user-ts2ju8sj2g]

Hey can you do Czech vs Slovak video it’s a really interesting language

[@aliosmanozdilek8860]

For me both versions are nearly same due to my legal background and my special interest on Ottoman language. The law school graduates before 2000s were educated with legal terminology which harmonized by ottoman turkish,arabic,persian with strong blend of latin,german and french. Further to the legal education my special interest for languages including Ottoman Turkish I can easily understand and read the Ottoman Turkish.However the law graduates after the reform on fundamental laws such as Civil Law,Commercial Law etc the new law generation lost this rich blend.

[@AhmadJMatar]

The video was really interesting and entertaining. It would be even moree interesting if you brought an Arab because I think he would add positively to the discussion. Thank you for making this video as I was always interested in Ottoman Turkish as an Arab

[@jochuba]

Iraqi Türkman people pronounce words both of Arabic and Turkish origin with full consonants as written so it is easier to understand than modern Turkish.

[@focusontheargument]

Your pronunciation is correct, theirs is wrong. Post 1928 Turkish is vandalized not only in vocabulary, but also phonetically.

[@turgut1071]

@@focusontheargument in what way would you say phonetically? can you give examples?

[@focusontheargument]

@@turgut1071 as I said

[@turgut1071]

@@focusontheargument so give me examples because i dont understand how

[@ThePolaris07]

Ottoman turkish have lots of arabic words. I didn't understand everything but I figured that it was cooking method since the first two words. ( طريق طبخي = طريقة الطبخ)

[@Samezz69]

Yeah try Persian it's full of Arabic words Kurdish as well

[@williswameyo5737]

Am a Swahili speaker from Kenya 🇰🇪, there are Ottoman Turkish words of Persian or Arabic origin am familiar with, the word Askari in Swahili is of Turkish origin

[@danielj.8876]

Great video, as always Bahador! Turkish is such a fascinating language and Ottoman Turkish is so rich with loan words, it's great to see that there are still scholars of this multicultural version of Turkish.

[@hakanbaybars4435]

Bullshit

[@Sultan_Alparslan_HAN]

@@hakanbaybars4435 Saçmalık ne alaka şimdi. Niye alındın?

[@Blathann]

​@@Sultan_Alparslan_HANhayaller ülkesinin savunucularından biridir. Başka açıklaması yok

[@egeakcay6917]

@@hakanbaybars4435 hakan ingilizce birşekilde atalarının kullandığı dile sövüyor. Sorarım hakana bu dil, Boğa pisliği yada saçmalık nasıl olabiliyor? Hangi ifade, düşünce anlatılamaz bu dil de? Modern Türkçeden bile daha iyi olduğu apaçık ortada olduğu halde.

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

@@egeakcay6917 iyi de bu dil türkçe değil. osmanlının kendisi buna türkçe demedi. dil zengin mengin olabililr ancak tanımlaması yanlış. eğer osmanlı türkçe kullanmak isteseydi oturur türkçeyi geliştirir ve yazardı. dolayısıyla saçmalık tanımı doğru, em azından bu dilin ne olmadığı hakkında doğru.

[@johnnykozakovsky3212]

What a great video, My 80 year old mother speaks Ottoman Turkish and can’t wait to show her this video. But has not spoken it since my grandmother passed away 22 years ago. I have a question is the person was reading the paragraphs an Ottoman Empire historian? If so is there a way to get In touch with him. I have my grandparents Koran and prayer rug from Ottoman Empire times but there is also a piece of stone wrapped up with it and would like to figure out what it is. Last time I was in Istanbul I brought it to a museum and asked a worker but he not really helpful.

[@BahadorAlast]

Thank you! Could you message me on Instagram, and I'll put you in touch with him. @BahadorAlast

[@user-99133]

Some people think that one man changed the language of millions of people. At that time the language of literature was Persian. Writers continued this tradition. In fact, the writing rate in the Ottoman Empire did not exceed 5%. In the Ottoman Empire, Anatolian people used Turkish even purer than today's Turkish. Sometimes my grandmother uses different words when she speaks. When I look at its etymology, it is Turkish, but today's word comes from another language.

[@eiramu]

I’m Azeri and I grew up with Turkish and I love to watch old movies from Kemal Sunal because I don’t understand modern Turkish at all anymore! Obviously it was never my language nor do I have many Turkish people in my life anymore but when I pass through or watch some videos, I hardly understand what they’re saying whereas the old movies are closer to what I remember and closer to my language. It’s very fascinating

[@persianguy1524]

Cause Azeri language is also half Persian similar to Ottoman language.

[@eiramu]

I grew up with turkish from türkiye so I knew to differenciate them quite well up until a certain point. @@persianguy1524

[@eiramu]

I just think that it has changed a lot due to social media and even adopting more english words into everyday vocabulary@@persianguy1524

[@eiramu]

?

[@persianguy1524]

@@eiramu half of azeri language is Persian

[@AltaicGigachad]

It is very difficult to learn the spoken Turkish of the era in the texts of authors who received classical Ottoman education. On the other hand, in the text below, written by an Istanbul Armenian who did not receive an Ottoman education, we encounter a street language almost indistinguishable from today's Turkish. The travels of Tamburi Artin Efendi, who joined the Iranian embassy delegation in 1736, were written in Turkish using the Armenian alphabet. "Yezd ile Kerman arasında kum deryası dedikleri vardır ki inceliği ve beyazlığı saat kumu gibidir ve bir köyleri vardır ki yolcular konar. Damlara ve sokaklara bir adam nazar etse gûya kar yağmış sanır. Yol üzerinde bir buçuk, iki saat çekecek kadar yerde kule gibi miller yapılıdır ki karşına tutar da öyle gidersin. Eğer o milleri sağına veya soluna alır isen, yolu şaşırırsın ve birer ikişer minare derinliğinde kum ile dolmuş hendekler vardır ki hiç belli değil. Atın ayağı eğer oralara basacak olursa kurtulmak muhaldır. Çabalandıkça batar gider.

[@williswameyo5737]

Ottoman Turkish was more spoken with the elites and those who closely worked with the government, it was a language of the court, however the common people could not be able to have access to learn and understand it

[@hassanalast6670]

Good to know way communication during the time of the Ottoman Empire

[@jochuba]

In Arabic counties we have the same situation or diglossia. A standard fusha high language used for poetry, science and politics while a low common vernacular for daily life. People living in rural areas and never been to school cannot understand or speak the standard lan gauge totally foreign to them.

[@turko4ever7252]

Turkish is an ethnicity“ Arap is an mixed people who speak an language“ so it can’t be that Turks use anything from the arap language when Turks conquered all arap county’s not araps this is an fact.

[@rajababy2009]

@@turko4ever7252 Arab is also ethnicity ,

[@hassankarama9166]

​​​​@@turko4ever7252 = أنا أتفهمك لأن لا تاريخ لك و لا أصل لك و مجهول هوية طبيعي تشتم أسيادك العرب.. للمعلومة أنتم لديكم مشكلة مع كل أمم حضارية مثل يونانين و الفرس و العرب و أرمن لانكم معقدين منهم و تشعرون بالغيرة منهم . = للمعلومة لغة التركية ليست عرق . أنتم شعوب متعددة أعراق و أصول تتكلمو مجموعة من لهجات . تسمى لهجات التركية. = أتراك أصلين أو أتراك عرقيا كانو يعيشون في منغوليا . و هم من عرق أصفر. و يشبهو منغول .. ... = أما أنتم في أناضول يونانين و أرمن و أكراد و عرب و تم تتريككم و أصبحثم تتحدثو بالهجة خليط من تركي فارسي عربي . التي اصبحت تسمى لاحقا لغة تركية انتم ملامحكم و أعراقكم شرق أوسطية و أروبية . و لا علاقة لكم بي أتراك أصلين = كدالك أذربيجان هم إيرانين و عرقهم إيراني و لغة أذرية قديمة هي لغة إيرانية . أذرييجان تم تتريكها و أصبح سكانها يتحدثو بالهجة تركية . = تركية ليست عرق هي لهجات يتحدث بها أشخاص متعددين أعراق و أصول . و أتراك أصلين يشبهو منغول . و أتراك هم بدو برابرة متوحشين و هدا هو مكتوب عليهم في جميع مصادر العربية و فارسية و أروبية و الهندية ... و أتراك كانو فقط عبيد و حرس لدى العرب و ألفرس .... أنتم لستم أمة حضارية. = و للمعلومة لغتك تركية هي لغة هجينة. هي خليط من كلمات العربية و كلمات فارسية ... = طبيعي تستخدمو لغة العربية و لغة فارسية في كتابة و إدارة و بلاط لأنها لغات حضارات و لغات علم ... عكس تركية بدوية منغولية متخلفة . لغة برابرة ...... عندما يتحدث تركي من جمهورية تركيا نصف كلامه أفهمه للان ببساطة لغته نصفها عربي فارسي هههه

[@hassankarama9166]

​​​@@turko4ever7252 The Turkish language is not ethnic Rather, it is a language or group of languages, spoken by peoples of multiple races and origins.... Original Turks of the yellow race, like the Mongols, and their original land is Mongolia. In Anatolia, you are not Turks, but rather you are Greeks, Kurds, and Arabs. Then you stopped speaking Turkish. Your features are Middle Eastern and European. Not Turkish = Anatolian Turkish is nothing but a hybrid language that combines Arabic, Persian, and Turkish. = Anatolian Turks spoke and witnessed Arabic and Persian in administration and court, which are clearly civilized languages... and not like the backward Turkish-Mongolian language. Berber language = For your information, the Turks were only slaves the Arabs and Persians

[@hassankarama9166]

​@@turko4ever7252 تكون تركي هو أمر مخزي ...

[@muctebanesiri]

Can's fluency and knowledge in Ottoman is really astonishing.

[@focusontheargument]

Isnt fluent. And the phonetization is completely off. He reads it as if it is todays Turkish.

[@pooyazadeh5066]

Bahador please do the same for Persian, but for texts written 1000 years ago.

[@jeffreyfreedlander8039]

I watch that show magnificent century and I speak Farsi as a native speaker and can understand Ottaman Turkish about 75% without the translation on the screen

[@persianguy1524]

Cause ottoman “turkish” was like 88% Persian. Lol

[@persianguy1524]

Well I should say 88% Persian and Arabic.

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

@@persianguy1524 ottomans never called it turkish. it was called three langueges and in the 19th centuary it was named lisani osmani. it is amusing to call this language turkish since its creators did not call it that.

[@yasarmevlutoglu776]

Are,vare,nizane,halanın üstüne uzane

[@focusontheargument]

That is incorrect. I have 19th century Ottoman language courses which state "Osmanli Turkcesi" or "Lisan-i Osmani". You are screwed.@@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567

[@jochuba]

An Iraqi here. Most words are Arabic, and spelled exactly like in Arabic, although they sound in Turkish differently. Just like Persian, by looking at the text, I get the topic but still hard to get the full meaning.

[@turko4ever7252]

Turkish is an ethnicity“ Arap is an mixed people who speak an language“ so it can’t be that Turks use anything from the arap language when Turks conquered all arap county’s not araps this is an fact.

[@erenkur3832]

😂 as a Turk, I felt the same😂 I know the topic but not the exact meaning😂 to be able to comprehend Ottoman Turkish one needs to speak both the Arabic, Persian and the Turkish I guess. Interestingly I have heard even the word diablo is used, so the three language is pretty much ok but knowing some latin and slav language is a plus to be able to understand Ottoman texts😅

[@focusontheargument]

Kudur@@turko4ever7252

[@lorancegaming7316]

@@erenkur3832 for real

[@ehabl8816]

that was fun

[@Samezz69]

Wow I'm Iranian kurd I understood 60 percent of it many Arabic and Persian words we also say toze for a little in sorani Kurdish. Interestingly from safavid times to mid qajar times we were part of ottoman empire

[@user-ix4fb3kf3j]

As uzbek I understand more then this modern turkish man. Because ottoman turkish more understandible then modern turkish. There is no ق sound in modern Turkish but I found this sound in ottoman Turkish.

[@gulkartal8933]

Modern Türkçe de nasıl K sesi yok ya da G anlamadım iki seste var. Örnek Kapı,KırmıZı,Kara gibi.

[@Migrant2008]

How interesting this is! I can estimate who are Turkish but the person reading the ottoman Turkish is also Turkish? Ottoman Turkish was a treasure for us and we lost it, i think this is very sad. At least we could have been understanding it, like the british people understand their ancestors, sheakspeare for ex..

[@emreduygun]

I wouldn't call it lost to the extent of being extinct, we could go back to it easy, the language has not been lost, the writing changed,

[@Migrant2008]

@@emreduygun i am calling it exactly lost since we have lots of lacking words when we compare to English or German or other rich languages... ottoman words are wiped out and the pure Turkish wasn't also good learned. Central asian Turkish languages are much more rich than our current anatolian Turkish..

[@emreduygun]

@@Migrant2008 utter nonsense, you do not know what you are taking about and sputtering nonsense, nothing is really lost, everyone in Tr is perfectly capable of speaking the way Ottoman was spoken, it is just no longer common and not being taught, you are clearly an ignorant hater when it comes to languages, you can't just compare a language (or words) to german or english and then call it lost, that is beyond ridiculous and those languages don't have many of the critical words, idioms, and descriptive words that Turkish still currently possess, so what does that make them? let alone more vowels than either one of them if you know anything about philology, you'll know the importance and advantage of having large number of vowels. I don't even know what does this mean "pure Turkish wasn't also good learned. ", we no longer use the form in Central Asia because we do not live there, so the words that we do not use either were replaced by words from other languages which is normal or there actually are dual use synonym words which is very common in Turkish, like one from pure old Turkic and another one from Persian or Arabic, or another language, people tend to use them interchangeably , not sure I'd call central Asian versions richer, if anything the modern day Turkish would be richer because it contains the central asian vocabulary , structure and added on top of it and evolved and in my view is the standard setter at this point, some of the central asian Turkic languages might have russian or other words in them, this is normal due to interaction and politics but doesn't make them richer compared to Anatolian Turkish which has a much longer history of interaction and foundation

[@Migrant2008]

@emreduygun i even didnt Read what you have written. I don't have time to respectless and arrogant people. You are a typical kind of personality of today's Turkey made by racist, nationalist and hateful leaders. You even don't know how to discuss and express your thoughts.. Stop replying me and play in another field. I have no patience for your kinds..

[@Migrant2008]

@@emreduygun you even don't know how to discuss and express your thoughts.. a typical arrogant nationalistic new generation made by current leaders... I have no time for your kinds. Don't reply my comments. Your information is for you my information is for me. Even the history isnot objective and the information is also not...

[@williswameyo5737]

Atatürk Reforms made the Modern Turkish what it is today, returning words to their original Turkic roots and purging the heavy Arabic and Persian influence the Ottoman Turkish had, though Modern Turkish still preserves some words of Arabic or Persian origin in its vocabulary

[@williswameyo5737]

The word pasha is of Turkish origin, though it is used in a different way in Swahili, kupasha means to spread news or information in Swahili

[@vahid7165]

Türk kardeşlerime selamlar... Bir İranlı olarak görüntülenen metinlerin anlamlarının %90'ını okudum ve anladım As an Iranian, I read and understood 90% of the meanings of the displayed texts

[@CIHANOZEL-ij6vd]

Biz anlamıyoruz😂

[@persianguy1524]

Because you understand Persian and ottoman language was mostly Persian 😂

[@Migrant2008]

Cunku bizim bagimiz kendi kulturumuzde olan birlikte bir guc oluşturdugumuz insanlardan kasitli olarak koparilmak istendi, bu ingilizlerin planiydi ve ataturk uyguladi... Kendileri icin tehlike olan Osmanliyi yikmak icin 300 yil çalıştılar... 😢​@@CIHANOZEL-ij6vd

[@focusontheargument]

Dilinizin icine sicildi o yuzden.@@CIHANOZEL-ij6vd

[@Vanguard.1283]

​@@Migrant2008aaaaa yani sen pers ya da arap kökenlisin ? Öyle mi demek istiyorsun ? Senin özün arapça ve farsça mı ?

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

Ottoman turkish was *never* a spoken language. It always remained a written language. Most of anatolia pretty much used the turkish we still use today.

[@m070sam]

they used greek you fool 😂😂

[@azikazikazik]

@@m070sam-clueless

[@mrpersianality6363]

If you write a language you also read it. And that is speaking it. And communicating with it. Work on your language comprehension skills

[@lambert801]

You're wrong. Ottoman Turkish was also the spoken language of the court and the higher classes.

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

@@mrpersianality6363 work on your history skills. europe used latin for a thousand years for writing. people still spoke their own languages in their everyday lives. palace and peasant languages are different things. one is written, the other is spoken.

[@Ozgur72]

Pretty much the same language, apart from several arabic/persian words that are no longer in use today. But classical ottoman poetry is a totally different animal since it is dominated by loanwords and phrases that are quite foreign to ordinary speakers of turkish.

[@jonam7589]

it was written in Persian and the Sultans had the Persian poetry nights since they loved the language and culture!

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

i mean it is hard for a persian too its not too distant either we have alot in common than not

[@hakanbaybars4435]

​@jonam7589 f..... your Persian language. Stop lying

[@hakanbaybars4435]

@@Houthiandtheblowfish سیکتیر ابنه

[@turko4ever7252]

@@jonam7589 Turkish is an ethnicity“ Arap is an mixed people who speak an language“ so it can’t be that Turks use anything from the arap language when Turks conquered all arap county’s not araps this is an fact.

[@darkshinigami9438]

Is there any comprehensive and serious resources to learn Ottoman Turkish?

[@julinaonYT]

Is there a market for this tuition?? because my friend is thinking of teaching Ottoman turkish online.

[@focusontheargument]

There is in pdf format on the internet. Lots of excellent resources, especially 19th century German and English resources written by the Armenian V. H. Hagopian.

[@darkshinigami9438]

@@focusontheargumentyes I saw this but it's rather dictionary i think, right?

[@focusontheargument]

@@darkshinigami9438 No, its textbook bro

[@steliopapakonstantinou674]

Congratulations to Engin!!!! His English is impeccable!!!!

[@focusontheargument]

His Ottoman Turkish pronuncation is wrong.

[@dakhilaf]

As an Arab , i can make out almost 50% of what was said due to some key words . Like cook and way and clean and hours and beens ….

[@the0arabian]

It's basically an Arabic dialect, written in a wrong way (like طبخى) Mixed with few Persian words. If it was written in the right Arabic, you will notice more that it was only a way to talk in arabic between 12th and 18th century, when turks were attracted into nationalism that came from the west.

[@persianguy1524]

@@the0arabianit wasnt mixed with few Persian words, it had as much Persian as Arabic in it. Sometimes the language was up to 88% Persian and Arabic. It wasnt really turkish.

[@Timurid1370]

@@persianguy1524Poorsian 😂

[@dakhilaf]

@@the0arabian i disagree. It is not an Arabic dialect even if they are heavily influenced by the Arabic language.

[@MrAllmightyCornholioz]

TENGRI BLESS THE SPEAKERS

[@Kardas1]

ALLAH you felt special saying tengri huh 😂😂

[@EnergeiaRhythmos]

Wtf is tengri

[@Kardas1]

@@EnergeiaRhythmos it’s basically what ignorant racists call Allah swt cause they don’t want to speak the “Arabic” language .

[@MrAllmightyCornholioz]

@@EnergeiaRhythmos Google it

[@irmkc]

​@@EnergeiaRhythmosGod in Old Turkish. In Modern Turkish, it is "Tanrı"

[@MuhammadNadeem-kx1pl]

Ottoman language alphabet and speak or translation app

[@maryb6074]

Greeting to our Turkic neighbours. A Persian.

[@persianguy1524]

Ridam be torka

[@focusontheargument]

Ridam be nejadparastan.@@persianguy1524

[@m.jacobi6276]

As an Iranian persian speaker I can read and understand many otoman turkish words

[@hakanbaybars4435]

No you can't. امینا سوکتوگومون گری ذكالی فارسی

[@malolelei3937]

​@@hakanbaybars4435it's ذکا dear. You should do better than that. Neden Türkler bu kadar nefret dolu anlamıyorum. براز بویویون آرتق یا 🙃

[@hakanbaybars4435]

@@malolelei3937 سیکتیر اوروسبو چوجوغو کوپک.

[@malolelei3937]

​@@hakanbaybars4435Dedelerine mi sesleniyorsun? Dede Bozkurt'a mı? Yoksa dede cengiz'e mi? 😄

[@malolelei3937]

​@@hakanbaybars4435bir de "oravesbu" ne??💩

[@Jamal-sg6jr]

چه زیباست پارسی دل ماست پارسی

[@emreduygun]

izale-i suyu ortakligin kadirilmasi, izale - eliminate/remove or maybe disrupt , I'd say correct.

[@teknoyldrm3238]

Amk hangi dil bu arapça mı farsça mı? Nasıl Türkçe oluyor, niye Türkçeyi bozmaya çalışıyorsunuz

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

purefiying ottomon was a european concept to induce false nationalisim where the boundries of culture used to be fluent and people werent limited to their borders this might of worked for small germany to have one dialect of standardised languague but it was disastrous for large middle east

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

@clover5866 the thing whilst isolationisim is being practiced on the part of turkiye who only want to learn western languages rather than forebarers of their amazing culture and heritage is a sad thing whilst lots of persians learning turkish and arabic and lots of arabs learning turkish and persian

[@HardCore_Islamist]

​@clover5866bro completely neglects the role of freemasons in birthing turkish nationalism

[@focusontheargument]

Retard fallacies. Spain no longer rules South America, so lets just start speaking Quech'a. You retard Turkist.@clover5866

[@focusontheargument]

Good luck with that in this post-Western world :) No one cares for Gokturks or Gokturk language (which doesnt exist, you meant Old Turkic). No one cares but fringe Turkist deluded dreamers.@clover5866

[@tanrnnkuzusu1359]

​@@HardCore_Islamistlol not true, bomb.

[@timurk9631]

Title is misleading, ottoman court language, not everyday peasants language 😊

[@thraciensis3589]

Not even İstanbul, Izmir, Selanik/Thessaloniki city language, only Ottoman court!

[@mohammadnajibullahahmadzai5685]

So cooking instructions were for the courts?

[@timurk9631]

@@mohammadnajibullahahmadzai5685 awalin tarikhe turkha bukhon bad azu mefahmi ke lahjae turkie usmaniha az lahjae turkha ke masalan kuchi budan besyaar zeyaad farq mekona

[@Kardas1]

That’s also a lie I have old family members that speak very familiar to old Ottoman Turkish . Modern day Turkish has changed ALOT more because of the “reform” the words and pronunciation got molded into Latin to be more appealing to European ”Ataturks dream”.

[@am_ma]

First four words are arabic words and the Ottoman turkish language was rich in arabic words but when Kamal came to the power he ordered to remove all arabic words from the turkish language but they couldn't get rid of all of them and in ironic way his party name Jumhorryat is an arabic name .

[@teknoyldrm3238]

There is no such thing as Turkish, it was all Arabic and Persian, Ataturk came and brought Turkish back to its essence, his aim was not to eliminate Arabic, but to save the language.

[@focusontheargument]

Get out of here.@@teknoyldrm3238

[@battashi911]

Funny thing... His name is Arabic name "kamal/كمال" 🤣

[@am_ma]

@@battashi911 صحيح و نسيت ايضا مصطفى 🤣 That's right and I forgot to mention also Mustafa مصطفى is too arabic 🤣.

[@focusontheargument]

@@battashi911 Mustafa Kamal, the titles of the prophet.

[@hkur2879]

Love for ottoman from PAKISTAN ❤

[@stardust6643]

Thank Ataturk for that, but there are still a lot of Persian words in Turkish even Turks don't notice them. Arabic loan words came from Persian rather than Arabic directly. Love from Iran to Turkeye ❤

[@brainblox5629]

You don't notice them only if you grow up in the cities. Our family is of Turkmen descent, but unlike my relatives I didn't go to school in Turkey and learned "high turkish", which is basically Arabic-Persian. Almost every document from the government or in business has a non-Turkic name and terms.

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

No most of the arab words come from old semitic language aramiac, syriac

[@dantepr1566]

​@@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273i think he meant the turks borrowed arabic words from persians who borrowed them from, well, the arabs

[@brainblox5629]

@@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 he means through the Persians to the Turks. Turks didn't have a lot of contact with Arabs, especially the non-ruler, lower class. But they often met Persian wanderers and scholars and also invaded Persia for a while. So they learned many Arabic words from the Persians rather than directly from the Arabs.

[@okanata3161]

We Turks should never have anything to do with iran or persia or acem (whatever you call yourself) i dont want to see even a iranian in Türkiye...Arabs are our brothers(a believer is the brother of a believer) but irani never! Your language is truly a beautiful language but your people..........! or let your hatred stay away from us.. i dont understand your(iranian) (i ll not generalizing) desire to go to other countries and commit crimes! what motivates an iranian! You are(not generalizing) trying to do in someone else's country what you cant do in your own country! (note: i have met some really good and nice iranians but i hope our countries' borders are completely closed to each other!)

[@aasifazimabadi786]

Osmanli (Ottoman Turkish) is so beautiful; the purged Perso-Arabic vocabulary from the 1928 "reforms" at the hand of the Kemalists offers a link to many other languages in the Muslim world. The lovely calligraphy at Kapalıçarşı (Grand Bazaar in Constantinople, a.k.a. Istanbul) looks quite similar to my mother tongue, Urdu. Just a week ago, we had the tragic centenary of the abolition of the khilafat. May Allah have mercy on the Ottoman sultans, particular Abd ul-Hamid us-Sani (r. 1876-1908, roughly 10 Shaban 1293 to 6 Rabi us-Sani 1327 in the Islamic Hijri calendar). Ameen. May Allah help us acheive unity; we need ittihad (اتحاد) more than ever. Ramzan Karim!

[@jobwesleycoxjr5103]

The purge was a good thing for the Turkish language. Most citizens did not use a lot of the Ottoman phrases taken directly from Arabic and Persian. The returns unified the language as one, regardless of class or status.

[@teknoyldrm3238]

Ulan dalyarrak o yüzden kaldırıldı zaten dil benliğini kaybetti bir tane Türkçe sözcük yok

[@focusontheargument]

The purge was a disaster, a very bad thing. All citizens used Ottoman Turkish, cause it was their language, it was just formal. And colloquial Turkish is also full of Arabic and Persian words. A Turk can not have a simple daily conversation without using Arabic and Persian loan words. Status, class, all bla bla. Fallacies.@@jobwesleycoxjr5103

[@Vanguard.1283]

​@@focusontheargumentöyle mi ? Kesinlikle konuştuğum dilde ki arapça ve farsça kökenli sözcükleri bulmakta zorlanmayacaksınızdır. Neden bilmediğiniz konular üzerine konuşmayı seviyorsunuz ? Osmanlı dili yoktur, sadece saray ve elitler tarafında kullanılan başarısız bir girişimdir. Günümüz Türkçesinde bulunan arapça ve farsça kökenli sözcükler %5 bile değil 🤡

[@Kardas1]

@@jobwesleycoxjr5103but then using Latin vocabulary also changed the language ALOT for example I have a family member that is 88 and spoke the “old Ottoman Turkish” learned from her mother and father . It sounds similar but still a lot of words are spelled and pronounced differently now because of the “reform” .

[@kunterkuman3567]

Büyük anne ve babalarimizin kullandığı Türkçe yi anliyoruz ama bize tabanci geliyor

[@TurkiyeNR1]

To me it sounds like modern Turkish with some 'strange' words in it. That's al

[@LKhamees]

The word (تنجره) which means cooking pot was adopted by Levantine Arabic dialects and it’s written (طنجره) but most Arabs now use the Arabic word (قدر).

[@turko4ever7252]

Turkish is an ethnicity“ Arap is an mixed people who speak an language“ so it can’t be that Turks use anything from the arap language when Turks conquered all arap county’s not araps this is an fact.

[@turko4ever7252]

Turkish is an ethnicity“ Arap is an mixed people who speak an language“ so it can’t be that Turks use anything from the arap language when Turks conquered all arap county’s not araps this is an fact.

[@LKhamees]

@@turko4ever7252 what the heck your reply got to do with anything I said! You don’t even know the difference between a race and an ethnicity. Turks in Turkey are not a race rather an ethnicity of mixed Turkified Balkans, Kurds, Anatolian Greeks, Circassians, Armenians, Arabs etc. Genetic tests showed that most modern Turks don’t have more than 2-5% of central Asian dna.

[@LKhamees]

@@turko4ever7252 you’re full of BS and your reply got nothing to do with my comment.

[@hamidhasanpour3180]

tanjire (تنجیره)is a persian word in persian we say tangire (تنگیره)

[@alfonsmelenhorst9672]

Ottoman Turkish vs Modern Turkish is like Urdu vs Hindi

[@bijoydasudiya]

Urdu and Hindi are one and the same language with basic similarity. Only technical glossary is different.

[@Soap_bubbles591]

Urdu and Hindi are both branched out of Indo-Iranian same as the Iranian branch

[@kc5479]

The real challenge for Turkish speakers to understand their language as it was spoken until about 100 years ago, is to break down the roots (which are somewhat recognizable and still not fully lost in modern Turkish), during a fluent and fast-paced conversation. Turkey made a choice during the revolutions of the newly found republic, which involved leaving some of the baggage of the old ways of the empire in order to expedite the adaptation of the new republic and new Turkish society into the modern world. This transformation was inherently one that required leaving out some of its past heritage, including the Arabic-rooted Ottoman script. While some have politically motivated ill-sentiments towards all revolutions of the republic era, including the language revolution, most Turkish people appreciate the push towards a more secular and modern lifestyle, allowing Turkish people to get more educated in the 21 st century science and more integration with economically developed (mostly Western) countries, and allowing them to rediscover their Turkic roots as opposed to only their post-Islamic heritage. There is a period of extreme language purification attempts, which attempted a forced replacement of many loan words with Turkic rooted invented words, which has predictably created much discomfort, and the forced influence not last very long. Even Ataturk had criticized this period, indicating people are taking this “back to the roots” thing too far. At the end of the day, the loan words have lived in Turkish culture for centuries, and have been adopted in many other Turkic peoples’ language as well. So there is no point even for the pan-Turkist political view, to push an extreme purification, which is ultimately a language genocide in a sense. Turkish people nowadays have a secret love for the Ottoman Turkish, even though they may not be fond of the political backwardness and lack of liberation in the empire times. It represents a sweeter time in their mind, mostly because it is the language of their great grand parents, who had more purer lives and hearts. Nowadays, modern Turkish is under heavy influence of American English gibberish due to social media and entertainment TV/ movie influence. The biggest reason for this vulnerability of Turkish to western influence is the lack of readership among Turkish people, who are struggling to get by economically, and prefer to consume simpler, and dumber media channels such as TV or social media, as opposed to books.

[@birdost5781]

Ottoman Turkish was never the language of our great grandparents. There was a big difference between the language spoken in the palace and the language spoken by people. So, do u think that our ancestors who lived in villages and towns in Anatolia spoke this palace language full of Arabic-Persian words? While Turks in the empire had no choice but to be soldiers and farmers, when would they be able to receive a good education and speak and read this language? And more, a considerable part of the Turks, including my great grandparents, were nomads(Yörük). The majority of the elite, who were well-educated, worked in good professions and knew at least one of Arabic or Persian, were either minorities such as Greeks, Armenians, Albanians, or devshirmes. Thanks to our great leader Atatürk, the children of these nomads living in the steppes or mountains had the opportunity to receive education on an equal basis with the children of the elites only after the Republic was established. And also, Ottoman Turkish which was influenced by Arabic and Persian, is no different from modern Turkish that is under the influence of English due to social media and entertainment TV/movie influence. Today, English has an influence not only on Turkish but also on many languages around the world from Korean to Arabic.

[@redwarrior9100]

Ottoman Turkish was the administrative language. Turkish people did not speak it. They spoke the peoples Turkish, referred to as Kaba Türkçe

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

@clover5866 fully agreed, we should be using our own words, not some other nations words. the more you borrow from an outside source the more your language contracts.

[@focusontheargument]

Full of fallacies. What does that mean, "appreciate a more secular and modern lifestyle" :) Do Chinese write in the latin alphabet, or Israelis, Koreans, or Japanese? Rediscover what? Historical revisionism is not about discovering but about revisioning. Turkic roots? You thing pre-islamic Turkic roots are modern and secular? :) By the way, most Anatolians dont have Turkic roots? Anyway. Go f yourself.

[@focusontheargument]

Everything is wrong with "purifying" a language, a concept which is inherently ideological and unscientific. There is no "going back to Turkic roots", cause you werent Turks to begin with. And even if you were (you are not), the logic of reactionarism is flawed. You are brainwashed and a toxic hater.@clover5866

[@central_asian_federation]

I like Ottoman Turkish because it unites Turkish, Arabic, Persian I would be great if it was lingua franca among turkic, arabic and persian countries (worlds)

[@tele_.]

افكر في اختراع لغة تكون مزيج من اللغات الثلاث بالإضافة إلى الملايو

[@battashi911]

As an Arabic speaker I understood alot of the vocabulary in Ottoman Turkish

[@Vanguard.1283]

Because heavily arabic and persian words use Ottoman Turkish

[@infinite5795]

Frankly as an Odia speaker, i love Turkish attitude and pride about their own language, it reminds me of the Tamizh people's love and respect for their language Tamizh in our India. Despite the humongous cultural dominance of Arabic and Persian in the Muslim world and beyond, the Turks teach us not to bend their spines completely to a foreign language so as to forget your own true origins, without causing any disrespect to both languages. Turkish might not be as old in literature as Persian or extant in works/vocab as Arabic, but Turkish is surely the most bold and closest to people's hearts. The most charming thing is Arabic and Persian speakers will never understand even some 1000 year old words without a formal education, while Turks will somewhat excel in reading an Old Turkic poem from the Gokturk era inscriptions in Mongol lands. That's the spirit of a language, its bound to change with time and i do not call upon anyone to feel any lesser about his/her language. Both Ottoman Turkish and present day Turkish are lovable in my opinion, but present day Turkish, with even the considerable no of loanwords is still a gem to many like me. I adore Old Quranic Arabic, Old Sasanid Persian as well as a language nerd. I cherish them as much as my own Old Odia and Vedic+classical Sanskrit. Interestingly, Odia is the least Perso-Arabic and other foreign influenced language in Asia(

[@hopewish15]

Harika bir yorum 👏

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

purefiying ottomon was a european concept to induce false nationalisim where the boundries of culture used to be fluent and people werent limited to their borders this might of worked for small germany to have one dialect of standardised languague but it was disastrous for large middle east

[@LKhamees]

You’re misinformed. I’m an Arab and as such I can easily read and understand Arabic books written 1400 years ago and can also read Arabic script without dots. Some words maybe are not used now in some Arabic dialects and got replaced by other synonyms but they’re in no way not understood.

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

@@LKhamees agreed turks are generally isolated from knowledge of the region and thats me saying as a persian who knows little but enough to get the jist despite the language barrier afterall half our brothers are in messopatamia since the ctesiphon days

[@aluminiumknight4038]

You clearly have nö idea wtf youre talking about

[@TurgayHul]

This version of Turkish which contains many Arabic and Persian words is mostly used in palace and amongst the elites. Unfortunately centuries of this attitude in the Turkic states also made Turkish lost many its etymologically pure Turkic words to Arabic ones. Luckily after the language revolution many real Turkic words and names were brought over back. Atatürk is really our father especially when you dig into such facts . Why would any nation use Arabic version , even for honey,meat, sea... Even the most simplest words they've chosen Arabic and Persian over Turkish because they thought Arabic somehow was holy... Let me tell you another thing, Ottoman elites admired praised Rostam ,an Iranian heroic figure, over Alp Er Tunga a Turanid Turkish chief, antagonist of Rostam in their literature a lot that they even created a saying " Tongaya düşmek" to humiliate Alp Er Tunga's loss.

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

Islam = Arab. Our idiotic ancestors thought they could seperate the two. Supposedly "holy" languages always exert influence over others. Afterall, people perceive them as holy, and thus will use them as often as they can.

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

purefiying ottomon was a european concept to induce false nationalisim where the boundries of culture used to be fluent and people werent limited to their borders this might of worked for small germany to have one standardised languague but it was disastrous for large middle east when nationalisim was disastrous for europe everyone trying to nationlize and divided into little kingdoms who dont understand each others is just cruel

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

@@Houthiandtheblowfish and whatever reason nationalism is the norm of the day . thus we must act accordingly and purge the language of the foreign disease.

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

@@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567 i didnt mean it in a negative light i meant exclucivisation was needed at the time for political reasons but at a result of it people suddenly found themselves to be iliterate and lost their roots to the middle east but turkey without middle east cannot exist and middle east without turkey by distancing itself the region lost its common unity and being and easier divided up with negative consequnces of nationalisim in europe i hope i didnt misrepresent

[@TurgayHul]

@@Houthiandtheblowfish bro just stfup It wasn't disastrous for us, in fact young republic succeed many and even paid the old Ottoman debts. Furthermore purifying Turkish and preserving the ancestors language was a loong matter since the Central Asia times. Yusuf Balasagun, Kaşgarlı Mahmut, Karamanoğlu Mehmet all pushed society to use Turkish and preserve language. K One of the oldest Turkish dictionary is Kutadgu Bilig was writing in such aim. Language to thenation is honour, unfortunately Turks were the ones who spilled their blood but never took what they deserved. Our language was polluted our names got nearly disappeared... A Turk took Arab names but an Arab never did such thing. Already none shouldn't do that. A Turk is a Turk and an arab is an arab. It may be disastrous for unskilled Islamised Arabs to get a national country but not for us. If this nation was Christan we wouldn't suffer and stay back this much. Luckily things turning around slowly.

[@justacentrist4147]

This is very interesting. Much of Turkish history is hidden in texts like this because most turks cannot read it or understand it. Its hard for non Turkish historians to studdy the ottoman empire even the WW1 period because of the language reform of the 1920s. Much of the history up until the reform was still being recorded by learned men in this Ottoman intellectual written Turkish. And has not been translated to standard Turkish let alone English. As someone with an interest in fierarms history and military history it is very hard to get any information that did not come from the company's in europe who sold to the Ottomans. Because many of the detailed records that actually survived the dissolution of the empire are recorded in this format. Very interesting gentalmen thank you.

[@misterawesome5100]

It’s a recipe for Ashura

[@jivanselbi3657]

the language discussed was the official written medium, especially through the last two centuries of the Ottoman era, it wa never adopted by the commoners, especially among the rural dwellers. In a way, this mixed Turkish, Arabic and Persian mixing started by the Seljuks who ruled over entire Iran, Afganistan, Iraq..etc. most probably wanted a language all can relate to. unfortunately, that ''Divan'' language ruined the rich old Turkish and caused disunity among millions of Turkic speaker around Central Asia and, even among Turkic groups in the Middle East

[@malolelei3937]

Turkish, or Turkic in any of its forms, was never a language the Iranian people could "relate to". It was, and still is, a completely foreign and unintelligible language with no genetic similarity whatsoever. The use of shared loanwords between two or more languages does not necessarily make them similar. As for the "destroyed old rich Turkish", for some reason nobody in the Middle East, or anywhere else for that matter, had ever heard of it before the immigration of the Turks from the steppes of Central Asia and their introduction to Persian culture and Islam. If Turks wanted to keep their language pure and intact, maybe they should have thought twice before deciding to move a couple thousand kilometers from their homeland all the way to the Middle East and then cross into Anatolia and the Balkans. You don't get to invade other people, learn and appropriate their religion, culture and customs and then expect to keep your own kin and your language the exact same way it was spoken in your yurts. That's just not feasible.

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

@@malolelei3937 Curious... Arabs managed to keep their language relatively pure, not counting aramaic influence. It seems they've bothered to create their own words rather then borrowing en masse. Ofcourse when you ask arabs the answer almost always comes to god and his preferred language. I wonder if we'll ever get a rational answer.

[@malolelei3937]

@@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567 I'm not Arab if you haven't figured it out. You would need to ask an Arab about that.

[@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567]

@@malolelei3937 I did not say you were, just a thought, and question worth pondering.

[@malolelei3937]

@@thegreatharborshipofbentus3567 and tbh, it's the same with Arabic. They don't have a "pure" language either. Arabic is also full of Persian, Turkish, Greek and Latin. It's just that because they have a different grammar and they use noun plates (if I can remeber the term correctly), the foreign words are changed too much that you won't recognize it is a loanword anymore. Like how they say مغناطیس mighnațis for magnetics or جغرافیا jughrafiaa for geography. They are Greek obviously but you see there are Semitic ط and غ in them. Also how they make plural words like افلام aflaam for films/ movies or ملایین malayeen for millions. Again loanwords but changing the shape of the word to make them plural, like original Arabic words.

[@halildogar3058]

Bu metin Osmanlı Türkçesini tam olarak yansıtmıyor. 1911 öncesi yazılmış herhangi bir romanı okursanız gerçek Osmanlı Türkçesi ile karşılaşmış olursunuz. Örneğin “Aşk-ı Memnu” ya da “Mai ve Siyah”

[@Sadragoodarzi1382]

As persian i understood all of it

[@nadirhikmetkuleli7335]

Ottoman Turkish was never spoken all across Anatolia. What is referred as Ottoman Turkish is usually what they call as "Fasih Türkçe" (advanced, fluent) and it was full of Arabic and Persian loanwords. It was always a written form of language. Never spoken. Even this written form was limited to Istanbul and surroundings in addition to few metropols (big city centers in Anatolia). In countryside no one spoke it. Outside Istanbul, dialectal forms were more relevant. Artificial Ottoman was not spoken at all. Even Sultans in Istanbul never spoke it. Midway (Orta Türkçe) Turkish was spoken colloquially in mostly Istanbul by educated and elite residents. Street Turkish (Kaba Türkçe) was the purest form of the language. Street Turkish was the most common form, it was the colloquial form of ordinary Turks. This form of Turkish was spoken by Anatolian Turks, even Sultans spoke this colloquial Turkish in their palace, with a heavy Istanbulite accent and with some more selected Arabic and Persian words though. Ottoman Turkish was a highly Arabized and Persianized form of Turkish and it was only a written language used in official / fomal documents and literary works by elites. Spoken forms differed a lot. Even the recipe read in the video is mostly Fasih Türkçe (advanced form) with heavy Arabic and Persian loanwords. Yes this is language in the books but no one spoke it. Language of ordinary people was purer forms of Turkish.

[@focusontheargument]

Complete nonsense. Ottoman Turkish was the lingua franca (go google what it means). It was also the official language of the state. It was used everywhere, from the Palace to the village. This is how the state communicated with their subjects, this is how subjects were educated. Formal language is just a higher level of the colloquial one. Of course when Ottoman officials or the Sultans themselves spoke Turkish, they spoke colloquial Turkish. They wouldnt be addressing eachother formally, which is ridiculous and happens nowhere in the world. But when formality was necessary, this is what they spoke and wrote. You are biased by Turkism.

[@nadirhikmetkuleli7335]

@@focusontheargument So called Ottoman language was never a lingua franca, if it was it would still have some speakers, non-existent. It was just a written form of Turkish heavily blended with Arabic and Persian words. Then, using Arabic and Persian words in writing that no ordinary Turk understands was considered a form of high register. Its only purpose was show off. They used highly over-pretentious inkhorn words and this made Ottoman written language only a written form of Turkish that no Turk actually spoke. No way, Ottoman language was only a written language. Nothing more. What ordinary people were writing was different from what Ottoman language was. That's the reason why newspapers that published in a language close to Ottoman language in early years of the republic was unintelligible for ordinary Anatolians. That' s why even Istanbulites hired arzuhalcis, people who write official documents in Ottoman language to be presented to government offices.

[@focusontheargument]

@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 I only follow science, you are biased by Turkist nonsense and you dont even deny it

[@focusontheargument]

@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 only unintelligeable for the uneducated

[@nadirhikmetkuleli7335]

@@focusontheargument Also Ottomans were just a family, a dynasty. THere has never been an Ottoman nation.. We are not Ottomans, we are Turks. Deal with that fact. Ottomanism and Islamism are two distinct forms of anti-Turkism, hostility to Turks and a way of hiding non-Turk origins of some who claims to be a part of the society. What are your reasons? Are you one of them? Armenian or Greek donmeh/ devshirmes?

[@alyyariisi3396]

Bahador, I wonder if you address the political side of Ottoman Turkish vs Modern Turkish identity. The language change came as a result of political change. So, addressing the root will be more substantive than the outcome.

[@user-bs6ci3cm2z]

As arabian person I understand many words

[@sado1631]

But you understand nothing , when you dont know grammatic

[@Coby000]

Ottoman language is mixture of persian and arabic.

[@Timurid1370]

NO

[@persianguy1524]

@@Timurid1370yes, up to 88% was usually Persian and Arabic.

[@Timurid1370]

nope arab guy 😂

[@Timurid1370]

@@persianguy1524who are you to decide over our language lol 😂

[@furkancimen3145]

​@@persianguy1524 LoL not %88 .

[@khandamix]

لسان عثماني 🇹🇷❤

[@greatturkishman]

Aşure nin tarifi

[@focusontheargument]

When anyone analyzes the introductory chapters of all Ottoman Turkish language courses of the late 19th, and early 20th centuries, one clearly sees that they clearly state that the letters غ, ق, and خ are guttural sounds. Sağır kaf, which is a kaf with 3 dots on it, is a nasal -n sound. What I am saying now is a sensitive matter. Atatürk deliberately ordered the Turkish language to be rid of these sounds, as they seemed to him "uncivilized" and reminded him of the "backward East" (Erik J. Zürcher, A History of Modern Turkey ). Atatürk was a Rumelian and believed that Istanbul Turkish with a Rumeli accent (lacking throat and nasal sounds) is the most expressive and beautiful form of Turkish. According to early Kemalist linguists, the absence of these sounds made Turkish easier to study for Europeans (same source). I leave it to anyone to judge for themselves. So, I'm quite disappointed that the person on the video probably couldn't recreate the original pronunciation of these sample texts in this video.

[@zay4081]

I disappointed like u, I don’t want to say anything bad out of respect for Turkish people

[@Vanguard.1283]

Erik Jan Zürcher gibi Post-Kemalist bir adamdan alıntı yapman güldürdü. Ant içerim ki tam dövülmelik adamlarsınız. Yapmadığınız maymunluk kalmadı 🤡🐒

[@pakistankorsanfilmpartisi4667]

@@zay4081arapsın konuşma

[@sanjarb.b.2627]

Men hayratdaman. Usmanli turkchasi, chigʼatay turkchasidan koʼp farq etmas.

[@Migrant2008]

I wish I could make our modernists understand this. You gave a very important information. Thank you. Even our Turkish ancestors had spoken this beautiful ottoman language, and by modernising Turkish language, we just lost our connection with our own people...

[@Migrant2008]

Ben seni anladım, ne güzel ❤

[@teknoyldrm3238]

​@@Migrant2008All in Persian and Arabic

[@focusontheargument]

Kemalists destroyed the cultural bridge between Central Asia and Turkey. They hate you. It was all about 'disconnecting from the East (be it Central Asia or the Middle East, and suck up to the West".

[@Vpbivibvjvpbuxl]

Turkish is basically a mixed language between persian and arabic

[@the0arabian]

Exactly, half of the words are Arabic, and it seems to me they were writing them in a wrong way, and then that (wrong) way turned into a new language.. I think all new languages are evolved like that, like English, the people who couldn't talk German well, developed new languages step by step to reach English.

[@Samanyolu-ov1yk]

O zaman Türkçe konuş da göreyim hadi seni yalancı

[@xdd87]

@@the0arabian officially 6% of the words in Turkish have arabic origin. Lol.

[@b5078]

Yes in Ottoman Turkish, but no in today's Turkish. Turkish is a completely different language from Arabic and Persian.

[@Vpbivibvjvpbuxl]

@@b5078 you are lying turkish still have lots of persian and arabic words so stop lying ok?

[@laylaglobal80]

I speak Persian and I understand this better than the guy on the right😂

[@missgizemk.8643]

Since Turks accepted the religion Islam, they changed their language and created a new language called Ottoman Turkish, mostly composed of Arabic and Persian words.

[@persianguy1524]

Ottoman language was more often than not majority Persian and Arabic rather than Turkish.

[@Timurid1370]

Turkic words were and are always in majority in our language arab guy 😂😂🇸🇦

[@sado1631]

Ok listen to Voice Records of Sultan Abdul Hamid an tell me what he says😂

[@HatredForMankind]

What is known as "Ottoman Turkish" colloquially is actually "High Ottoman", and it was not a spoken language, but prose and "book language" of the literati. Other than that there was no such thing as "Ottoman Turkish", academically speaking.

[@user-ob1oq2ng9c]

٢٦/٣/٢٠٢٤🤦🏻‍♂️💔

[@ansarallahi]

easy

[@koseku3]

very interesting video. i always hate when old people use persian or arabic origin words while speaking turkish as a young turk

[@user-fk1ru3jv4h]

Why do you hate? Modern Turkish has borrowed also from French and Spanish, do you hate that?

[@ibrahimturan28]

more words makes u stronger and smarter. It hurts me that young Turks don't understand old Turks.

[@mmtalii]

There is nothing to hate there. We 'young turks' still use a lot of arabic words and just because they use more than us doesnt mean we are better than them. Language changes over the years. In fact I would advice any younger people to learn these 'older arabic/persian' words so that we can understand the past of our language better.

[@koseku3]

@@user-fk1ru3jv4h yes because it breaks the harmony of our beautiful language. Also they are not understable

[@koseku3]

@@ibrahimturan28 we can make up New words out of turkic origin

[@maryb6074]

As a Persian, I understood majority of these texts.😊

[@user-gb6ts7kq8o]

آفرین! چطورین؟ من زبون فارسی یاد می گیرم. مردم ایرانو خیلی دوست دارم. اونا مهربونن، دوست دارن کمک کنه و مهمون نوازند. خیلی میخوام که در آینده به ایران مسافرت کنم. خدا حافظ.

[@hakanbaybars4435]

یالانینی سیکیم اوروسبو فارس

[@hakanbaybars4435]

​@@user-le3gg سیکتیر اوروسبو چوجوگی پیس کوپک فارس آیت. سیکیم سنین ایرانینی

[@turko4ever7252]

@@user-gb6ts7kq8o Turkish is an ethnicity“ Arap is an mixed people who speak an language“ so it can’t be that Turks use anything from the arap language when Turks conquered all arap county’s not araps this is an fact.

[@narenjakable]

@@hakanbaybars4435بتر یانیر سن !!! هاهاها بو دا شعور و تربیتیندی !!! بیزیم آبریمیزی دها آپاردون...کول باشوا بی هویت آدام..

[@asker9172]

i love asure, but not hot., Like it, when it has room tempereture

[@emreduygun]

how about make it a bit more conversational, this is more like an oral interview