Our Celebrity Client's Table Got Messed Up

Finally, we get to show you guys the finishing of Joe Manganiello’s table top and base.
Sorry, this video got delayed, we had to push the delivery for this table back because Joe’s home renovations are taking longer than expected! We thank you all for your patience, but we’re happy to finally continue the process.
Stay tuned for the delivery of this table to Joe Manganiello and Sofia Vergara’s home sometime this summer!
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Hello everyone I have a lot of experience with making epoxy tables and varnishing so here is one tip. If you are working with clear epoxy resin, do not use 2K water-based varnish. Each 2K water-based varnish leaves the finish a little hazy. You can use 2K high-gloss polyurethane varnish that is applied in up to 3 coats and then sanded with water sanding up to 3000 granulations and then you need to polish. Greetings from Bosanski Petrovac Bosnia and Herzegovina

[@Deathcroak]

I knew this could be done. Thanks for the confirmation.

[@crossFit513]

yep I agree

[@ukhairybear]

Sorry this happened but it shows great craftmanship that you are willing to let us see the problem and how it will be fixed, your quality control is second to none, fantastic vid as usual guys.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks so much Chris! We never wanna deliver anything less than perfect!

[@FM-nm4ng]

@@BlackForestWoodCo - I noticed that there have not been any follow up video's about Joe's table. Did you ever finish it? Is there going to be an upcoming video of you delivering it to his house for his reaction?

[@jessuit121]

sand it down and buff it back out. That's how we do custom cars. you build up to about 8 coats then sand and buff that out like glass unless your wanting a matt finish

[@tommyknockers_8608]

What a cool build and amazing client, I can not wait for delivery and see what it looks like in Joe's D&D dungeon (as he calls it) and his reaction to it.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

We cannot wait either!

[@3beard]

Thanks for the update! Sounds like Joe seems to understand, and with him needing time to finish building the room, sounds like all is still okay, just later (and I'm sure, frustrating). You all are creating such art.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes, it will all be okay! We've got more than enough time luckily! Thanks James!

[@heathcox1286]

I was and still am a customer of you guys. Love the wood products you offer. Love the channel.

[@johncotton866]

Great video!!! Thanks for showing that true artisans such as yourselves have to go back and redo projects sometimes. Looking forwards to the future videos showing how the project is progressing. Glad to see your quality assurance standards are high. Keep up the good work!!!!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks so much John, we can't wait to update you all on the next steps!

[@androidovca8968]

Happened to me once also with Poly 2 component coat. Went to sanding with 120 - 180 - 240 - 320 and back to spraying booth. Just working with 3% gloss acrylic coat, comparing raw wood with coated there is no difference, with a 9 grams of white paste per 1kg of acrylic base coat. That is for european beech, for oak a little bit more - 11g per 1kg. Good luck, we know you will deliver. 🤞

[@rvrski1]

As someone who works in the space of timber machining we would skim it with the CNC router table, then sand, fill any imperfections that have risen from dressing then start the process of applying the finishing coats. The only reason not use the CNC router table is if the slab/resin has moved in any way.

[@benblackforestwoodco2340]

They're going to try sanding with high grit and polishing, so we'll show some updates when it's fixed!

[@amaganquiltscrafts]

Hope we get to see this finished someday...

[@sev6379]

I'm wondering what happened.

[@dougk5456]

I've been doing woodworking for many years and finishing still scares me. The table is awesome and I have confidence that it will turn out great!

[@maccthelab5165]

Many of us were looking forward to seeing this beautiful table. Very enjoyable video. Well done!!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks so much! We'll update it again before the delivery!

[@certifyd]

Still looks amazing. Can’t wait to see it back at 100%. Just waiting now for someone at Wizards to screengrab the table and use that as a most epic adventure map. I totally would have put a tiny miniature of a sailboat in the middle of the blue

[@colinmorgan7771]

Wow that looks absolutely gorgeous

[@theJohnGaltLine]

Oh, man. What a kick in the shorts. I had been wondering why we hadn't seen any updates on this table. Ugh. Sorry that all that extra work will be needed.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

It's too bad! But we'll get it fixed and we'll do an update on it before the delivery!

[@theJohnGaltLine]

@@BlackForestWoodCo Sweet. Looking forward to it.

[@jumpingjacks5558]

Wow, that had to be difficult to see. The table looks great. I look forward to seeing it finished. Hopefully when you sand it down it doesn't take chunks of the epoxy and wood with it. Have you or your dad ever thought about wood blasting with dry ice? It's like sand blasting except it's with small tiny pellets of dry ice. There are companies that will do that but it is kind of expensive.

[@sethdavidson4463]

you must have just came from blacktail studios new video lol

[@jumpingjacks5558]

@@sethdavidson4463 Yes I did. I thought what he had done to his table with the dry ice makes perfect sense. The cost is outrageous. I'm just wondering if these guys have ever looked into it.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

It won't do that, it will be fine so no worries there! And no we haven't tried that before, I don't think we've looked into it before either (as far as I know), sounds interesting though!

[@rumpple4skin976]

cant wait to see the room it goes in too it will be the crown jewel im sure great job guys

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

We cannot wait either!

[@Reduxwood]

Think you guys will like the Tung oil finish from The Lucero Company in Vietnam. Been working with Matt for 8 years now. One of the best oil finishes in the game. Can't wait to see the finished table, looks amazing, Justin.

[@naturewalks]

Amazing video, and big like! It was good watching this.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks so much!

[@seantwomey396]

While the brilliantly clear finish is what you wanted, the table remains stunning and I would happily accept a donation ! Bravo for finding a way to refinish the top to get closer to the perfection you targeted.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thank you Sean! It definitely is still beautiful but we want it to be perfect!

[@warehouseman6325]

Definitely need to do in house next time. You guys Definitely have the talent. Bring back that shine

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Unforunately we don't have the set up to do spray finishes! There's too much dust in the shop

[@perrygrosshans8537]

It looks like friggen fantasy world map! Super cool stuff. And super talented organization, wow. Just the things people/artists can do these days!

[@shadow111d]

respect that your taking care of issues

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thank you!!

[@eugenetrollip751]

Well, kudus to you guys. Any potential client watching this is assured that you will not put out a sub-standard product - and that matters a lot in any business.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes, we'lll never deliver something we're not 100% happy with!

[@jamesmcpherson5827]

Oh no! I've been coming back here just to see how this turned out. So sad to see this but you guys are going to nail the fix. Good luck!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

It's sad but will fixed! We'll update again soon hopefully!

[@fbrdonr1989]

Scary. Luckily it looks like nothing a little elbow grease can't fix. I was worried it broke or something worse. Yall are amazing and can fix it. Best of luck.

[@cwxgames468]

Even with the cloudy look it's still a beautiful table

[@michal.kozlikowski.drummer]

Adler Pigmopur (?) G100 laquer is glass transperent. I've seen tables from one company in Poland, that uses Adler laquer and it looks amazing.

[@SirIsaacNewtonOfficial]

Wet sand it then buff and polish. I bet it'll turn out amazing. Save yourself the time of having to sand it all the way

[@ziggystardink9389]

Yeah that is what i find to be weird. He said it was because it was left at the facility too long and got scratched. The finish is not that durable if it is that easy to scratch. Also it looks more like it was sanded than scratched.

[@AnthonyRGarcia]

I would think that is all that is needed. He even said it felt rough. That would mean the light would reflect off of it making it look dull/hazy. It's a surface texture issue, not a "we left it too long, got scratched, then 'fixed'" issue.

[@0megacron]

I actually like the hazy effect they got - it enhances the illusion of looking down from the sky onto an old map.

[@noahbodhi8657]

Thays how I feel too. I prefer the matte look.

[@Enn-]

I'd be spot testing to see if you can sand and buff it to clear.

[@charlesthomas9294]

In terms of "sulferic acid spills", the last Christmas party I went to, someone spilled tequila on the dining table and it ate permanently into the finish of the wood. Probably a nice peace of mind thing for those cases.

[@ryanc8188]

That sucks! The cloudiness gets even worse when you're doing a satin finish. Semi and gloss don't do it as bad, but stain and dull get cloudy very fast when you get putting on to many coats. Time to get the sanders out and go to town.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Haha yup, it's sanding time!!!

[@chrisreynolds2410]

I’m using poly on some wood plaques. How do I get the perfect final coat? There always seems to be a spot or 2 or 3 that are not perfect. Do I wet sand the imperfections out? If I do that I am getting dull spots…….do I use a higher grit wet sand to achieve the shine or another coat of poly and hope for the best? Thanks for your opinion I asked cus you seem to know what you are talking about.

[@bill48m]

It happens and I am sure you and your team ,and Charlie, will restore the finish to satisfaction . If you don't send it here to Florida I'll find some use for it.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Oh yeah, we're not worried! We'll fix it and make it perfect! Or there's that option hahaha

[@maddieadams75]

Thank goodness it’s not a total ruin. All lessons in life, make us stronger and smarter. ♥️

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Exactly! Thank you Maddie!

[@aubreyv1389]

This video earned my subscription. I’ve been following Joe’s table and am excited to see it in his redesigned dungeon. When I saw the title of this video, my heart dropped. But I was relieved to see this professionalism from Black Forest, acknowledging their mistake, coming up with a solution, and informing the client/audience with full honesty. Such a quality team, truly. Im also overjoyed you’ll be able to keep the wood piece that Joe picked! Can’t wait for more updates ❤️

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thank you so much Aubrey! I hope you've been enjoying following along with Joe's table process! Thanks for subscribing!

[@waterchickenwoodworxbydanb42]

I take it there is no middle ground as far as having to all the way back to bare wood again as in, could it be sanded say from 220up to 1500 or I guess at that point take all the way back and start over . Man that sucks .Great look piece any how can't wait to see it all finished up.

[@warpo007]

takes a great group of craftsmen to pick up on a error and even bigger to admit and fix. But Like many of us, we know Black Forest Wood Co. are very proud and professional.

[@johnlord8337]

Woudln't it be easuer to run a small roller in painting/dying the table base ?

[@1982MCI]

Good to finally see you guys going with urethane’s. But you have to be cautious with temps, humidity, etc when you spray or you can end up with hazing/milky finish. So, did they apply a polyurethane or a urethane? There’s a tremendous amount of difference between the two and what it needs is urethane. Urethane’s are what is being used to clear coat cars ,paint aircraft, etc and is going to be one of the most durable finishes you can apply but you have to apply it properly and under the right conditions or you will end up with what you’ve got. It can be resolved but it’s time and labor and material you don’t want to invest. A urethane will not be subject to damage from touching either unless someone has sand between their fingertips and the finish. An hour or two after it’s dry, you will not harm it with touch. It’s gonna be gorgeous once it’s like it should be. It should be as clear as It was when it was wet. It’s gonna be absolutely amazing!!

[@straub98]

Wr have actually been using both polyurethane finishes for years! We just allow our clients to choose between a poly finish and the oil finish.

[@1982MCI]

@@straub98 gotcha. Thanks for the info

[@shesemerald2011]

Thats a beautiful table still.

[@nelsonmaldonado2672]

Is there an update on this build?

[@edayers315]

What is the spelling of the 2 part poly you used? Thanks for your videos.

[@superpheemy]

My question is.. when you deliver the table to the E. Gary Gygax Memorial Dungeon (that is... Joe's basement gaming room) Will you sit down and let Joe run all y'all through a game of D&D? Just warning you now. Man plays Meatgrinder rules, so maybe you all should have a backup character ready... or four... each.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

We can only hope we can sit down for a game with him!!

[@bearvassar6690]

Thats a incredibly elegant table so beautifully crafted how much would it cost for you to make me one

[@JuanitaHarrisMissHarrisinParis]

That looks like the topography of the Bay ARea in CA

[@TheJerbol]

They couldn't have just covered it with a cloth or maybe asked others to not touch it? Doesn't seem that reasonable to me to just leave this out exposed considering how damn expensive this thing is

[@DMJoseG]

Im sure this is gonna look amazing, and if Joe is building a bigger and badder D&D room for this table to live in, this table is gonna be absolutely perfect. Its a breathtaking table! Love the update, super bummed on what happened, but i'm sure the finished product is gonna look phenomenal and I cant! Your companies work is outstanding and it'll definitely show with this table when its officially ready!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes, we can't wait to see the new room for it! Thanks so much Jose! Yes, the final product will be incredible!

[@Aviertje]

Instead of treating this incident as something that 'just happens sometimes', have you considered changing your processes to account for this? Like putting cloth/cardboard/whatever on top of a finished product so it cannot be accidentally touched while it hangs around waiting for delivery? Or if that isn't an option, putting a ribbon barrier around it? You seem to have plenty of space and the mere existence of such tools already discourage accidental touches, while the ribbon especially would just be an outright call to 'dammit just don't come near it right now'. Adding such preventative measures to your workflow takes maybe a minute or so, but given the nature of your work, would save you a crazy amount of product and manhours to fix. It sounds like whatever paltry sum those materials and procedures could cost you would be earned back in no time as long as they prevent even one incident of this-- and yet your tone implies that these kinds of things are not one-off events.

[@Kaodusanya]

im so surprised that they even just left it open but I guess you live and you learn.

[@damion2747]

Would wet flating/sanding and polishing not make a difference ??

[@davidmcarthur1093]

Hi, you guys have been making these tables for a few years now is there any chance of going back and seeing how they are doing as a lot of experts in air quote's say with seasonal changes they will separate. Love your table's but I can never afford one thank you

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yeah we could show a couple that we have in the office and stuff, I believe they're about 3 years old and used daily!

[@AlainPilon]

The epoxy bounds with the wood, unless it is extremely badly done, it will not split from the wood. Remember: epoxy is super glue!

[@spyguy4558]

Any update on the delivery of the table?

[@ryanpeckphoto]

Did you try a wet sand and polish? Seems like that might do the trick

[@debbiputman3482]

Shame about the finish! I truly think, though, that this is one of the most beautiful pieces y’all have ever done!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

We'll get the finish right don't worry! Thank you Debbi!

[@davecurda2350]

What is the colour and the brand of stain on the base (black)?

[@KarthusDreams]

Hello ! Do you produce anymore doors ?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yes! We'll probably post a door install this week!

[@KarthusDreams]

@@BlackForestWoodCo Thank you ! Much apreciated ! Please please please show us how do you mount the hinges

[@cheshirehavens6208]

Sucks you have to that issue, but its what happens sometimes when your trying to get projects to work in time with clients remodeling.

[@foxbat1766]

Man, being married to Sofia Vergara has so many extra perks, it's crazy...

[@tintedtankardgamerssociety7864]

Can't you sand down to 2000 it 3000 grut sandpaper and buff it clear? That's what I would try first.

[@Deathcroak]

Sand then buff just like a car and should look clear again? What I would do but I'm sure I'm probably missing some information.

[@SamundraDarion]

Oh PLEASE face-off with Wyrmwood!

[@xXRedBeanzXx]

yall ever gonna fix his table? there has been no update to whether yall could fix it or just completely ruined it? starting over? refunded him?

[@christelklinko7683]

I am glad you understand . I am sure when the camera is off well…. You don’t have to be sorry. This was circumstances You and your team could not control. Just move on. Still a great table.

[@Lycanthus78]

So what happened to the table in the end? its been 5 mths since this video .... kinda hoping there might have been a "ta-da!" moment by now.

[@pitakon]

Missed chance to somehow make it look like the sword coast. I can almost see it.. lol

[@crossFit513]

seems like it might be solvent entrapment

[@dertimofo7782]

can you not buff it out with an orbital buffer?

[@jc-ol9mb]

when your guy sanded it before the final coats he didn't clean off the dusty residue, he sprayed straight on after the sand, hey with wood you can get away with it but not on this, every day is a learning day fellas

[@miken8889]

you can tell by the videos that once it dried it was already cloudy

[@seanabel8247]

Ots been a month have you finished and delivered the table yet?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Not yet, we're waiting on Joe's home to be done renovations first!

[@seanabel8247]

@@BlackForestWoodCo hey tha KS for the response, I can't wait to see the finished table installed. This is in a higher class then the one I built!

[@ThePercOfGaming]

@@BlackForestWoodCo Is there an estimated time frame you're looking at? Been following this (also what drew me to your channel) and can't wait to see the finished product.

[@brocksdaddy081910]

I actually prefer the matte look... beautiful either way though.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

It still looks good for sure, but the reason we did the two separate pours with clear on top, is because we want to have clarity and be able to see the live edge details, as well as the resin swirls!

[@fredproctor6973]

It still looks great, but you can definitely tell it's dulled down some.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yeah, we'll get it fixed and clear as possible!

[@tommyknockers_8608]

It'll hold up against sulfuric acid but what about Fire Balls?.. This is a D&D table after all. Actually more like how does it hold up against Mountain Dew and Cheetos.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Oh of course it's fireball proof hahaha

[@comptegoogle511]

Did you take an high gloss varnish, semi gloss, perle...

[@i1Ghost]

It happens, it had the right amount of layers on it and you guys didn’t expect to add more.

[@TraumaQueen65]

Couldn't you have used the CNC to shave to surface off?

[@richardstephens3327]

Redoing your work is never fun, but some times you have to do it. I did find it funny that the CC for the vid says gecko, instead of Jecko.

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Yeah it's not ideal but thankfully we have time! And haha I know, it happens every time

[@bluekitty3731]

Beats my kitchen table that I use for DD games

[@_TheDudeAbides_]

It has to support that top and in case of Joe getting inspired, also the weight of Sofia Vergara.

[@infinixhotnine465]

Hey! You look familiar!! Joe dirt!!

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Hahahaha oh my god

[@klashnacovak47]

I quite like the matte/cloudy finish that has happened to the table. If you had lightning underneath lighting up the blue I think would look great.

[@scouseblarney6232]

At least it can be fixed, so a little extra work will keep you out of the pub for a bit this summer...............:-)

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Hahaha yes, we'll get it perfect!

[@foreverCaroline2]

OK I will take any of the mistakes. As long it fits in my small apartment.

[@GingerDachshund]

Wet sand and buff. That would take care of the finish

[@drgmecc]

What is happening now?

[@marcelthibodeau9577]

French polish boys, it will GLOW. Source, 20 years spraying building furniture…

[@Dresden76]

When’s the follow up video?

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Waiting on being able to deliver this! Should be around the beginning of October

[@ghost4realbitch]

Is it me, or does this table look like it would be a awesome gaming table top

[@jameshetherington1]

I'm pretty sure that's what it's for

[@governmentmu1e588]

Its literally a table for DND............

[@karlmattsson8817]

What was the end of the story?🙏

[@cole9909]

Ime epoxy does that with anything but epoxy coating it💯

[@bjornbear6856]

That's sad it happened, but you just gotta deal with it... I know you'll fix it ! Can't wait to see the video of your delivery on this thing! BFWC rules!!!!! Be safe guys

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks so much! We'll get it looking absolutely perfect this time! We cannot wait to deliver this either!

[@MrPrush-ji4gs]

One day

[@themoos4205]

2:53 lol 8 month ago you did a bar table top and it was all scratch up

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

The one that cleaners tried to clean with abrasives? Scratch resistant does not mean scratch proof.

[@Lasastard]

6 months later - am I right to assume this never got finished? Or was there just no video about it?

[@NihilimZA]

Don't understand how it could get damaged enough to need a recoat after all the protective coatings was already on it.

[@annekabrimhall1059]

Suzuki finish is completely black if you do it right. You char it more, then rub it with a wire brush, dust it off and oil it. Yours still turned out looking great!

[@ThePerpetualStudent]

I had to look up the "celebrity."

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

I don't know why the celebrity is in quotes, he's been in a ton of movies and shows, also being married to Sofia Vergara doesn't hurt haha

[@ThePerpetualStudent]

@@BlackForestWoodCo I know who he is now because of his wife. Just had to look him up. His name sounds famous alone.

[@MarldainLunas]

When spraying the urethane topcoats, the dude should wear some goggles as well. Dont need to cure your eyeballs

[@AdzOwnz]

Comment for the algorithm

[@BlackForestWoodCo]

Thanks Adam!

[@Midori_Seabreeze]

So someone touched it? And someone else decided it got scratched and had to put another coat on?