Our Cheap Swap Meet Honda Odyssey FL350 gets a Performance Overhaul!

[@OddballORV]

It was great working with you guys on the build and I'm excited for the next round of goodies we hope to send your way!

[@justinoliver1984]

Thanks for the contributions mate!! I've been waiting to see this one, since they grabbed it up at the swap meet.

[@meanman6992]

Widen the axles?

[@devinvanoutrive]

Wider long travel!!🤪🤪

[@Crystal-n2l]

Trick out the king midget paint job, rims and air bag's

[@CarsandCameras]

We made one of our favorite machines even better! Stay tuned for an Odyssey vs. cross kart shootout!

[@skozlozlaurie712]

Oh you tease!!!

[@robertzumwalt1098]

Now do clutch tuning it would be night and day difference

[@Hootman865]

Looks great, maybe some stainless braided lines for the new radiator would top it off

[@Zane.Wellnitz]

I'm glad that you said that. Supposedly Darth never said "I Am Your Father" at all now. Funny it's the one Darth Vader line that everyone remembers

[@darellsimons2687]

Epic 🎉

[@EdibleOutdoors]

You want toe in on the rear. It helps for high speed stability and over steer while cornering. More Camber in the back will also help for traction around corners at speed.

[@ricksandleeches]

Yeah you can see how much it needs rear camber. Especially how they say it hooks unpredictably. Rather spin out than roll over.

[@shiftymiata]

Quinn was MOVING on that Odyssey!! Wow

[@CUBEoneVX]

she took that bridge like no ones business

[@DanDan_and_the_boys]

It’s wasn’t the correct lap so it wasn’t accurate but yea she was getting down

[@davecarnevale8017]

@@DanDan_and_the_boys as long as she does the same lap after the comparison is fair

[@sidswift4709]

Now that you've added the pipe and new carb you need to tune the engine clutch , take about 1 gram of weight off the arms and see what happens, it needs about 3 to 400 more rpms

[@skozlozlaurie712]

"She wobbling pretty good?" - next t-shirt

[@methodicalfabricator6617]

Looks and Sounds Great! When your ready to increase your oddy's performance even more, hit me up, I'll get your cylinder and piston done up. Water jacket, ported, all the secret sauce:), set you up with clutching etc. Totally bring the monster out! Grab my number from Rob or have him pass yours along. Great Job!

[@jackrosen1740]

Glad to hear that you’re still working on these! I remember when you posted your first couple videos years ago- so so cool!

[@jaredpratt9733]

Quinn with the Michael Jackson reference... I'm dead

[@davecarnevale8017]

I hoped I wasn't the only one who heard that - Quinn ftw

[@jacksonbrah1712]

Issac trying to recover after saying "women's box" was hilarious

[@justinoliver1984]

🤣😂🤣 glad I'm not the only one that caught that!

[@AsswipeGarage]

@@justinoliver1984 I said it first

[@justinoliver1984]

@@AsswipeGarage this was the first one I seen whole scrolling my guy. But hey, we're not alone right? Lol

[@AsswipeGarage]

@@justinoliver1984 True enough

[@Halfstep2024]

I’m proud of him bailing as fast and awkwardly as he did. And I’m even prouder they left it in there. Nice little reminder that no matter how much they polish they are still just a few of the boys having fun. 😂

[@ED-ti5tc]

I remember when i was young, there was a small dirt track at White Lake across from goldstons. Those were the days! That thing is ripping!

[@larryspencer1684]

I would use wrist straps in the future to keep arms inside in case of rollover. A friend if mine lost a finger when reaching out during a rollover. And arms can fly out uncontrollably.

[@jesserickson2036]

Sorry, your comment came out while I was writing mine.

[@larryspencer1684]

@@jesserickson2036 @1.00.20 i see straps in place.

[@Differentthings2006]

That's definitely not a bad idea. My brother rolled a go kart and I was riding passenger. I instinctually put my arm out, and it got squashed between the roll bar and the ground. Thank God I didn't break my arm just bruised it pretty bad.

[@Hammerback0]

If its gonna happen, its gonna happen. Saw a guy get his arm lobbed off (elbow down) when he rolled a ford Ranger on I75. Someone will tell him he shoulda had wrist straps. Just stand on his left if one chooses to tell him that, may catch a stump in the grill. 😂

[@Davespackey]

It has them and Jon had them on.. you blind?

[@adlucem9845]

you GOT to get a 2 stroke RC hydroplane for that pond. you will get addicted.

[@vintagespeed]

for aligning an IRS vehicle, drop a plumb bob in the center of the wheelbase & center of the chassis width (chassis center), center the rear hubs laterally to this point, then align rear toe/camber & caster. then center the front hubs to the chassis center, adjust the front hubs to the rear hubs, then set your front camber/caster/toe. that'll square it all up. i would suggest 1/8 toe in on the rear tires and zero or 1/16 on the fronts, also set camber to -1deg both ends. will be gtg. 👍 on a tweaked or off-roaded rig, u do the best you can....but referencing everything to chassis center will get you tracking straight.

[@memorris2]

Can i just say thank you ike....you never see anyone pour coolant and oil bottles the right way, but you do, and man it satisfies my ocd.

[@tophermatic4528]

You are right john, it is almost perfect. The Pilot was just that, perfection.

[@heatherjenkins221]

Hoping you guys are safe❤

[@Ratkill9000]

I really wish Honda would bring these back. These ripped and I never had one

[@dipstiksubaru3246]

Buy one

[@Ratkill9000]

​@@dipstiksubaru3246I'm not made out of money. Going to build my own mini buggy.

[@ShortbusGang]

@@dipstiksubaru3246 Some site has a few for 7 to 12 G's a month or so ago. I forget the name thou.

[@dipstiksubaru3246]

@@ShortbusGang yeah it's called Facebook marketplace or Craigslist lol

[@tophermatic4528]

I see them for sale all the time. You should look for a Pilot though. It was liquid cooled and was way better than the fl350.

[@3GingerCats]

there's a couple of benefits from having a bolt go up from underneath (if you can't use a rivnut/nutsert) and from Rally car experience... you don't get stones/Gravel destroying the thread making it impossible to get the bolt undone again. but the other, if it does come undone, and the bolt goes down through the hole, it may stay there and not be noticeable until whatever is bolted there goes Byebye... but if the nut is on top and it comes undone, the bolt may be gone, but the nut rolls around on the floor and gets noticed... and it is so annoying you can't wait to stop and see where it came from. so much safer as well.

[@Sm0kEyX420]

Best parts of Wednesday: 1. Marks half way through work week 2. Cars and Cameras New Video

[@docholiday6944]

I KNOW THATS RIGHT!! ✌️🤙👊

[@socialmediadelinquent5781]

So instead of having the Stig, you have your own Quinn

[@JohnWhite84]

There's a difference between dry torque and wet torque. By adding a lubricant you are actually torquing those studs substantially more than spec.

[@sandmanbub]

I really like the look of that exhaust system. Can't wait to see the results of your modifications. You two are living the dream of many mechanics, me included.

When Studs go to Deep into a Block we use a Ball Bearing down the hole or something alike to make the Stud Bottom out . Saves em rattling loose or pulling out .

[@marshmellow0408]

The cross kart you guys built just helped me to build a cross kart of my own! Thank you for the inspiration!

[@tbirdracefan]

Brings back memories. I had no 99 of the first year 1977 Odyssey. I bought it used and the upgrades were a DG pipe, Spring kit for the clutch, smaller diameter rear tires, And an Elsinore MX jug. I eventually got bored with it and let it go thinking I would get one of the 350's with some suspension but never did. 63 years old and would still like to get one.

[@galeclay8907]

I'm glad to see you getting Quinn involved with your project's keep up the amazing content love you guys cense the beginning 😂😂❤❤

[@mrshaneyt43]

I must have a missed something because I have no idea who she is.

[@galeclay8907]

@@mrshaneyt43 she is John's girlfriend 💕

[@mrshaneyt43]

@@galeclay8907 thanks , I thought that’s what it probably was .

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

Yeah it's awesome to see a partner for John that's willing to be involved with the long time ongoing shenanigans. It's awesome. You can tell they're all having fun.

[@kevinsellsit5584]

Nice to see you again Quinn. It's always good to have a true professional on the show. I just came here to say THANK YOU for doing some alignment work on the 350. It was painful to look at before. Replace the spindle, get it on flat level concrete and do it again please. Align it with the tires on it. The beauty of steel is it can be bent back just as easily as it was bent in the first place. Take the lower rear control arm off (trailing arm) and straighten it in the press. As for the bent frame, I haven't noticed it due to lens distortion, but some chain and a bottle jack will make short work of it. Special guest stars like Quinn the racing legend should have nothing but the best equipment available.

[@josephgermany7446]

The Michael Jackson "hee heee" @6:14 killed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@looneylonzo28]

1:24 that big red 250 sitting over your left shoulder is hands-down, the best three wheeler ever made, and it’s faster than a lot for wheelers. They have so much potential.

[@WOMANIZERJERRY]

It's gonna snow, John actually did some physical work, just keep on him Ike.

[@whatsinanamethatthecaptive577]

I like how Quinn goes from Sweet, to WOT Animal, back to Sweet. Include more Quinn, she is adorable. Your channel is great because of the content and the type of people. Example: Charles was great for the channel because, well, he was Charles.

[@skinnywheelz]

These longer episodes are the Shit! Thanks for sharing!

[@justinswanson7582]

I have seen you guys do a lot of hot laps over the years and they are all great but Ike's hot lap after the mods had me on the edge of my seat! Great driving Ike!

[@boltonky]

Love to see a Hi/Low episode of the Honda motor in the Odyssey an the performance difference as that Carb alone would break my bank (i do get those smart carbs are a game changer, tried one of the lectron carbs on a guys dirt bike at the track an it made a difference) Thanks for the upload, so glad you lot keep having fun an enjoying yourself as that's what its really about

[@sandmanbub]

If you sand blast the cylinder's exterior, you will effectively increase the surface area exposed to the atmosphere, helping to cool the engine a little. Every little bit adds up.

[@ni_wink84]

My neighbor growing up had one of the FL400s that thing would wheelie on the street!! Watching this reminds me of how cool I’ve always thought these machines are!

[@11LowDown11]

Since discovering the frame tweak it’s the perfect candidate for shop built mods! It’s already a great series!

[@mellender0]

u have to give an update on the opel gt

[@TheNewSchmoo]

THIS ! Its a very cool little car and supposedly inspiration for one of the Corvettes.

[@dominicrichardson5546]

I've been asking for this forever. I commented well over a year ago and john replied saying a video was in the works. No idea what happened there

[@davecarnevale8017]

@@TheNewSchmoo that Corvette story is a myth

[@TheNewSchmoo]

@@davecarnevale8017 Thanks

[@kevinsellsit5584]

@@mellender0 After the fire in the passenger compartment, the rust is in a long term stabilization process. You don't want to rush these things.

[@mikellewis2346]

They always run best right before they need rebuilt. And that engine is definitely ready for a refresh. Its run much better with mild porting an good compression. Looks amazing the way it turned out with new parts. 1❤

[@quevicular]

ODYSSEY 3. Pull that tired motor apart, rebearing, port, over bore with new piston and rings and taller gears and then see what she will do.

[@DavidHall-d8q]

Back in the 80's my friends and I were working at the local motorcycle shops and racing motocross . I was at a big Kawasaki shop in Tulsa Oklahoma starting as a junior mechanic and having the time of my life ( Jet ski's and lake parties ) , We worked with a guy who owned a rental Odyssey Trails track and Motocross track and became big fans of the Odyssey . I felt like we had it made ... with Motocross , Jet Ski's , Odysseys 3 different models of the Yamaha RD 400's and 1 LC 350 ( Canadian model ) it was heaven . You are right , the Odyssey was an all around fun machine that rivaled our Motocross bikes ...almost . But no doubt it is great and fun machine.....the hop ups seem to be the ticket . I'm sure Quinn is a seasoned Odyssey driver but impress on her to start out slower and work her way up ...the new power and those balloon tires aren't a good combo and will let go if pushed too hard ( just a thought ) . Have fun everyone... love what you did to the Odyssey

[@fuzielectron5172]

Ahhhh... LC350 or Elsie as we called them, 375cc overbore, porting, carbs and expansion chambers, happy days. Put it in a lightweight chassis's, hello 140mph.

[@jamieparker8335]

Keep at it guys, good job on the upgrades. FYI Toe out on the rear will introduce over steer, toe in on the rear helps with stability at speed.

[@JamesShuta]

You aline the frame the ailment

[@whatsinanamethatthecaptive577]

When you lube the head threads before torqueing it reduces the thread friction and therefore increases the tensile stress on the bolt shaft. That is okay as long as the bolt shaft does not go into plastic deformation (permanent stretch).

[@joshuaatkinson3529]

When is the yard dart coming back?? Seriously, that was the most exciting build and exhilarating lap run!

[@TastierBackInThe80s]

Some say she goes everywhere at two times the speed. All we know is...she's called the Quinn.

[@desertdenizen6428]

I'm on the other coast and hearing about the horrible weather in NC. I hope you guys are safe and all your fun stuff isn't damaged. Drop an update if you can. 👍

[@metalman175]

I always use a little bit of the same oil I use in the engine to lightly coat the head bolts or studs. This ensures proper torque readings. My dad taught me that on my first v8 engine build many moons ago.

[@alatorreracing]

Just got one of these in place of my YZ125. Came with some aftermarket goodies too, awesome to see you guys put some more love into this beast!!! Keep it coming 🔥

[@AgnotologyTV]

got 20 mins left in the video - once thing I will recommend with those new plastics - add some rubber bushing material with some washers to increase the surface area the mounts hold on to while also cushioning the plastic against vibration and harsh impacts. Even with fresh plastic it starts getting brittle fast under 50 degrees, and it's basically $2 per fender in insurance.

[@adventuresofbadtoe5774]

Torque specs are set with the intention of using a clean dry thread. By adding lubricant to the threads you actually end up over tightening which can stretch the studs.

[@jeffman3]

I can second the RZR seat swap. I've got one in an early full suspension Murray Explorer and another in a Suzuki Samurai. Completely transformative in both rides.

[@anesthetized7053]

ikes random "hey man i really enjoyed Bonneville" at the 56 ish minute mark cracked me up

[@TrulyUnfortunate]

I remember when the Odyssey first came out when I was a kid. I wanted one badly but I already had a motorcycle,a Yamaha YZ80. So Dad said no,stating you already have a motorcycle and you'd have to share the Odyssey with your brother which of course was a no go for me.

[@davidowen888]

As a kid I was in love the first Odyssey I seen in the showroom 😍 some 2 inch wheel spacers would add stability 👌

[@SteveEh]

A slight toe-in on the rear helps with tracking and stability. Front - slight toe-out gives better steering response.

[@Shegal1535]

"When you roll the Odyssey" You wear the helmet so your head doesn't get caved in by cage....wear the loops so you hands aren't removed by the cage! Dude, WEAR THE ARM RESTRAINS ON THE WHEEL!!!!!!!!! We had 2 pilots growing up. Guy we bought them from was missing a hand and his son was missing 2 fingers! When they roll, you'll instinctively put your hand Outside the cage...where it will get smashed or cut off. PUT YOUR HANDS THROUGH THE LOOPS WHEN RIDING!!!

[@Greg1096]

Im really interested in what she thinks of it with the mods, and what time she runs.

[@gilbertsprojects2954]

Yep, we need a quick update just to see how she handles it now

[@willsullivan6195]

Put the boot in a ziplock bag with some wd-40. It’s how we get life back into hardened RC crawler tires. Also, used to spray down go kart slicks and wrap in Saran Wrap between races. Gets them unbelievably sticky once they heat up

[@atvtheory3151]

The overheating problem in the initial batch of FL350 Odysseys was fixed by installing a lower compression head. As you discovered, the liquid cooled head can get away with the higher compression and deliver better performance.

[@nuttyDesignAndFab]

regarding bolt engagement: good rule of thumb is you want slightly more thread engagement than the diameter of the bolt. that front trailing arm bolt gets pulled back during wheel impacts, be real careful not to rip the threads out of the chassis lol. I'd probably get a new tirerod, fatigue stress is a thing

[@c0c0asauce]

You wanna find the centerline of the chassis by measuring the frame and compare that to the toe on each corner. That will allow you to adjust one corner at a time and avoid crab walking

[@thomaslemay8817]

Youse guys should start checking the total pounds before start modes and compair afterwards so you know if you're making it heavier or lighter . This mod. Lost your snorkel, probably not a problem depending upon the amount of rain you encounter. It looks like you could drop that seat down two or three inches by putting square tubing detween the seat pan and frame on the bottom side lowering your CG if ground clearance is not an issue. If you don't have width problems you could use wheel spacers to give it a wider track with making tipping (rool over) less likely. Fine tuning the tire pressure can also reduce rool over but you can loose forward thrust and braking traction at the same time . Perfect chassey tune can be very elusive. I discovered long ago horse power can give you an edge but if the chassis is not perfect you will be getting laped by people with less power and a better chassis setup.

[@fredfrancis80]

I remember seeing one of these at the local Honda dealership and thinking wow great work cheers from Australia

[@daniellaidlaw2677]

Im a fool for pulling plastic off things. It's..... Just satisfying. Cheers Ike!

[@3v068]

Quinn is just absolutely adorable! I'd love to see her in more content if she's comfortable with it.

[@jasonpetrich4141]

That girls crazy my guy!!! She went full rip. Dude amazing 👏 get em out of there comforte zone so they know what they really can do!!!!! My wife just got a 2025 grom sp to fallow me on my drz400sm so fun!!! Dude this is cool your doing upgrades it deserves it big time 😂 great video as always guys!!!!

[@Buck1954]

I owned a Jeep CJ-5 when these came out. I wanted one, but was modding the Jeep, so had to pass on it. I saw a guy go around a corner in the forest and rolled it down a hill. We ran down there to see if he was okay and he was laughing. We pulled him out and towed him back to his truck where he straightened things out and went back into the forest.

[@kristianenglish4453]

If you we're thinking of putting a fan on it you could run the fan and pump off the same switch .. you'll get better cooling and you'll have no worries about over heating

[@adlucem9845]

guys take a dremel and grind the roof of the exhaust port about 1mm. widen the exhaust port at the top. grind 1mm from the intake side piston skirt bottom. then finally grind 1mm on the roof of the transfer ports and widen them 1mm on each side.

[@paulmeade3180]

Hanging out in the big bend area of Florida watching you guys and waiting on the hurricane to hit.

[@hutchdw77]

A little toe in on the back is good for straight line stability. A little toe out on the front is good for cornering and predictable handling.

[@steby123]

With the onboard camera I find myself leaning into the corner as you drive around the course .

[@WreckedRevival]

Love to see you guys doing more two stroke content and seem to be getting more into the two smokers, they're hard to get away from once you get a good taste of their high power-cc ratio & the smells lol. 🤙

[@VinzClorthokeymasterofGozer]

Spaceballs, the minibike. Merchandising!

[@mbminitrucks1]

Welcome to the bagged life. I'd look to run the bags up the other way so stones / rocks, etc, don't get caught in the rollover and puncher the bag.

[@devinvanoutrive]

Dude all it needs is long travel and that thing is a damn BEAST!

[@DetroitMicroSound]

She's going to be a regular pilot/rider.....Watch. She's not afraid to scoot! 😎

[@brandonhardin9753]

Oh my. Got a glimps of that gorgeous zero turn!! 🤤🤤

[@Bartskarts]

Love y'all's work, keep it up boys

[@skyfreakwi]

Probably already mentioned but if you mount your seat support under instead of on top of the frame rails you'd gain some headroom. Spacers in-between could add more!

[@matthewmattholew7905]

Great episode. Nice work guys. Got that Honda running great. More Quin. She’s a sweetheart! And she was ripping good especially considering the throttle was totally sketch. 😂

[@terminalpsychosis8022]

Just adjust the other rear side a bit inwards too, so it tracks straight? A tiny bit of toe-in on the rear, especially on dirt, won't hurt much or? Better than having it drive sideways. The front wonky spindle will be a FAR bigger problem. Overall a very worthy, classic project.

[@edwardkipp4911]

You can soften the hard rubber carb boot by boiling it in a pot of water with wintergreen oil in it.

[@auriceburrell8148]

It is great she is involved, have to keep it fun for her and if needed girly. Now you will have to do something she is interested in only way it will work long term. ❤

[@rockman49er]

Just about do e with my first go cart build already took it for a spin and it rips thanks for the inspiration you guys rock

[@joshuaatkinson3529]

Oh, and this was a great episode as well! Love you guys.

[@Jeffro69er]

That aftermarket pipe is sweet

[@OddballORV]

Methodical Fabricator does some sweet work.

[@shotsrodder]

The air scoops are for removing the heat from the cylinder fins otherwise you will scorch the cylinder and rings.

[@extremegape]

Neighbor kid had one growing up. I rode the shit out of that thing. One day I will buy one and rebuild it. Better than a side by side anyday

[@tj79jrfan]

We need a part 2 on this I was so looking forward to Quinn's second lap and reaction to the upgrade i was kind of disappointed I didn't get one.

[@imaclipthat9724]

You should do full Farroffroad kit, it’s front and rear long travel.

[@vinny5203]

when i was a kid a family friend got one of these. I was like 7. his didn't have those wrist cuffs on the wheel. he rolled it and was wearing a 80's gold watch. The odyssey slid on its side and his arm got on the ground and his tore his arm up pretty bad. that's the only injury i remember form that thing. it was pretty safe , compared to the 3 wheelers

[@Pittsburgh-412]

Imagine how amazing this thing was in 1985 lol. I know it was awesome because my neighbors had one

[@hardasfk6709]

This reminds me of that movie heavyweights I used to watch when I was a kid. Good movie.

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

I had an '84 Odyssey 250 as a kid in the '90s. It had an UNI pipe and was loud as fuck, lmao. Mine was a pull start, which was quite a handful, as that 250 was pretty mean back then.

[@thagingerninjer5391]

Wd40 isn’t lubrication. It’s a solvent that washes away lubrication. Two stroke oil would have been way better to use on the studs.

[@WingmanJohnny]

Pretty cool yins guys. Great video. Keep up the great work

[@fl350r]

Next up I would do a set of shocks and an after market clutch. I had 2 of these back in the day and and the suspension upgrades made the biggest difference. I went with a 94C clutch and it really made a difference. For the suspension, I went with a set of Works front and rear. You should do limiting straps in the rear if you go that route.

[@OddballORV]

Shocks are in the list of upgrades for this machine. Works Shocks however is no more. The owner Tim passed away close to a year ago. Rest assured though, we got something special cooking up for the Cars and Cameras Odyssey so stay tuned!

[@bobmanzi7712]

great stuff guys thanks, Quinn did a great job on her laps.