Our First SolarEdge battery Installation with Solaredge Solar PV!

[@serraios1989]

11:14 Dean was called to rescue the electrician installing my system. He saved the day. Top man and a real gent.

[@daveforrester61]

Nice install. Never thought of mounting the optimisers in the loft. I probably would've asked our installer to do that if I'd known. I've found Solaredge support to be superb in dealing with those teething issues after commissioning.

[@Ben-gm9lo]

Hi guys, love the videos, especially the joint ones with Artisan. You are clear, knowledgeable and above all - honest. I have one comment to make on your videos generally, I hope it is received as constructive rather than too critical. When you play music, please resist the temptation to raise the volume. Yes, it is sexy to crank up the tunes, but it is really annoying to at least some of us viewers. Being over 50 means your audio acuity is reduced and to have sufficient volume to clearly hear the spoken parts means the volume is then uncomfortably loud when the music comes in. We then spend the video adjusting the volume up and down! I view on a PC with a seperate HiFi amplifier and wall speakers, so this isn't an issue of my audio system This is just a fine point to an otherwise well polished production and something that is all to common on KZbin, but very very rare on TV or professional streaming.

[@davidreece1642]

Seconded wrt presbiacusia.

[@OliBroad]

Agreed

[@bjornelst12]

i work for solaredge myself, the system looks good!

[@neilbissett1240]

As ever mate a great insight into solar edge 👏😎

[@OvalRenewables]

Thanks glad you enjoyed it!

[@MarkGaudie]

Really like the Solar Edge stuff. Nice details video. 👍👍

[@RedBatteryHead]

Looks nice install. Great info.

[@ekrano]

I have a similar system and have experienced the problems you mention with the Energy Bank. A few days ago the battery, according to the app, was not charging or discharging, it is working now. There's a software update due soon apparently. Considering how long the Energy Bank has been available in the U.S.A they should have resolved most problems by now. To be fair SE support are quick to respond to any support cases, in my experience within 48 hours.

[@davefantom1411]

Very nice install guys, great work. Already contacted you about an install, hopefully you can fit me in in a couple of months 👍🏻

[@KingMartin90]

Love your videos wish you did your own solar installation course

[@OvalRenewables]

Maybe one day!

[@markfortune3492]

Loving your videos and it is helping me as I am seriously considering solar panels and battery storage, as we recently moved into a property that is quite a period property in Brotherton, built in 1790. It was nice seeing this video with an older property, but I still think this one would be a walk in the park compared to mine. It is scaring me the prospect. Old fuse box, with old meter both of which are relatively inaccessible due to a kitchen being built on top of them. Walls nearly a meter thick. Also I would need an external setup (battery etc) as although my property is huge with a massive roof (my electrician buddy thinks that if weight and other things was not an issue, I have enough room for 40+ solar panels) that has just enough pitch so it is not declared flat (so uninterrupted sun all day), I do not have a garage. I need to get a survey done to see what is possible as my elec bills are huge, and I do not even charge my car at the house, my Tesla has free supercharging so I use Ferrybridge for that but would love to charge it at home and not supercharge it all the time.

[@craigbutler6243]

Can you tell me where you buy your solar Edge kit please & what your buying experience has been like. Cheers

[@ianlove3]

Asalway a great vlog.

[@OvalRenewables]

Thank you!

[@noahnoahnoahnoah]

Really useful and timely video. Would be great to hear more from you on solaredge charging from grid etc. Maybe another video once this November user interface update comes through?

[@davidbowen2075]

Hi, any reason why you didn’t go for a solaredge 5kw inverter to maximise the AC charge and discharge for the battery. 👍🏻

[@OvalRenewables]

Hi David, Thanks for watching and for the great question. This was our first SE battery job and we have learnt a lot since then. We do usually do that on our installs now. The DNO was also a bit tight on this job.

[@michaeldaglas7226]

great video

[@tbonesenior6736]

Great job

[@OvalRenewables]

Thank you!

[@jasonbillington3923]

Great video as always and beautiful install. If I was to charge my car would this take the power from the battery ? If so is a system available where it wouldn't discharge the battery. Thank you.

[@GiraffeChaser]

Thanks for the video

[@dama054]

Like the idea of the optimiser in the loft but I would have mounted them on a piece of hardy backer board before fixing to the roof timbers

[@OvalRenewables]

Thanks David, they are perfectly safe on the wood but you could also install with a bit of hardie board if you wanted

[@geerkotocave4554]

Great installation I have 1 question : If you would made this off grid what's are the options for grounding solar panels ? Would you add earth rod or still ground them through mainboard Earth cable ? thank you

[@Capitalelectricalandsolar]

Thanks for the video! might be a silly question but ( I'm not familiar with the solaredge systems) is the battery connected directly to the inverter as i can't see the cables connecting in? I can only see the two strings, ac, and comms, or is the battery ac coupled and connected separately on its own circuit that communicates with the inverter?

[@OvalRenewables]

Thank you for commenting! The SolarEdge batteries are a high voltage battery and so just connect into the inverter using normal 6mm Pv cable and MC4’s. On this system there is one string of panels and one pair of connectors going to the battery. That’s why you can see two sets of cables.

[@iantaylor9288]

Impressive video. In case of a power outage will the Solaredge battery continue supply to the house?

[@scmoty0]

Very nice video. Question, is it possible to use the solaredge battery bank together with a 3-phase storedge inverter?

[@jeremy1548]

I was really hoping to hear about the configuration for overnight/off peak charging of the battery from the grid. Does it do that? If it does, does it look at a weather forecast to see if it's going to be a sunny day before anticipating how much to charge. Fun to start with but I don't want to have to be interacting with the system every day to tell it how deeply to charge the batteries. That's the key feature I'm looking for in my next battery system. (I have a SolaX that doesn't do this and it is a pain)

[@daveforrester61]

This battery can be charged from the grid overnight, but you need installer level access to that functionality on the monitoring platform. There is an update to the app coming in January next year which will give site owners access to charging profiles. Current level access is not smart enough to factor in the weather forecast for the next day. Perhaps the update will include that.

[@230879Darren]

This might sound stupid but does the solar generation of 2.2kw refer to a hourly rate? So say 6 hours of sun would generate 2.2 x 6 = 13.2kw a day?

[@giggykachelofen1956]

13.2 kWh because it´s energy, not power

[@willgrainge]

Thanks for the very informative videos, can I ask, what makes you predominantly choose solar edge? What is your opinion on the givenergy systems? I’ve not seen you use one yet, is there a reason for this?

[@wajopek2679]

Good honest and detailed presentation especially with software glitches which are so common yet no one talks about. I'm planning a 3 aspect total roof replacement in Q2/Q2 2023 in Hudds with In-roof + SE or Enphase system. It's a simple install. Are you accepting RFQ's?

[@OvalRenewables]

Thanks very much we are hoping to reopen enquiries very soon and would love to look at the project for you 👍

[@RaithUK]

How are you dealing with the lack of battery control in the customer side app ? By this i mean the fact there is no ability to change what the battery does.. i just had one installed and its sat there at 31% doing nothing at all.. its one of the more frustracting bits of soleredge and the fact it has no UPS or backup function for a power outage. over all im regreting the solaredge battery part atleast lol i will have to re-evaluate once i get some answers from soleredge on monday.

[@OvalRenewables]

We are changing this for customers upon request. The functionally is supposed to be coming to the customer app in November. Strange it wasn’t included originally but hopefully it won’t be long until it is.

[@gavinskinner214]

Hi, great video, really insightful. I am interested in a very similar system set up and wondered if you could provide a rough cost with all the same components? I know there will be variation for my specific needs but would value something I can benchmark my expectations against. Would love you guys to install my system but am based in the South East. Keep making the great videos!

[@shilks8773]

Does the App require SolarEdge to provide the service. What happens if SolarEdge goes Belly up - as Anderson has recently. If the App relies on SolarEdge to provide the App "Service" - then the whole App is going to disappear. Solar Edge surely can't be the only ones to offer/allow an Optimiser per panel to be installed in the System setup.

[@anthonydyer3939]

I got my energy bank commissioned a few days ago. I made a 3 part review on this battery on my KZbin channel. A few days on, one thing I’ve noticed is that there’s often 20 to 30 watts of grid import all the time when in max self consumption mode. It adds up to 1kwh import per day. It makes me think that they are measuring “apparent” power rather than “real” power from the battery. The grid import is most obvious at night when the fridge freezer compressor kicks in every two hours or so. Hopefully a software update will fix it, but it’s great to otherwise see my import get reduced massively now that the nights are drawing in. I really do hope that Solaredge get charge discharge profiling into the hand of owners soon. It’s completely unacceptable that only installers have the ability to set these up.

[@OvalRenewables]

Hi Anthony, thanks for watching and for the comment. Most battery systems will allow a small amount of import from the grid during operation. SolarEdge have a big app /software update in November I believe which will hopefully sort some of these issues out. I know they are including customer control for the grid charge. It is strange this was not included when it was released but hopefully all that will be a distant memory soon!

[@daveforrester61]

​@@OvalRenewables the update to the app in November is a beta update and won't be available for general update until January.

[@drdeatha51]

The optimizers need to be grounded.. I don't see a ground? Thats why they usually get installed on the rack or back of panel..

[@AndyRobertson63]

If you have multiple inverters surely the 1st converts solar to use / storage and 2nd inverter can import cheap power @ 7.5p into the battery. Of course battery will charge at night when no solar is being generated.

[@danielebrahim2336]

Hi, Can you now charge the solar edge battery - or can your installer only change it? Thanks.

[@OvalRenewables]

Currently only the installer can change it but it is coming to the customer app imminently

[@abdulkhaliq7465]

Hi Guys I’m interested in getting a similar system to this. What kind of cost are we talking about please.

[@RichardABW]

Hi, is it possible to put the optimisers in the loft space if you have the regular on-roof mounting rail setup?

[@OvalRenewables]

No not really as we cannot extend the connection between the panel and the optimiser

[@andypandy2797]

In Aus,,very few install solar edge now,,love the system but so much trouble

[@dyn4mis4tion]

What do you install then?

[@andypandy2797]

@@dyn4mis4tion just opened a solar Biz but speaking to many retail & installers they don't like using them,,they said they have to keep going back resetting the system....Not sure exactly why but it's what many say across the network

[@dyn4mis4tion]

So what do you install then?

[@andypandy2797]

@@dyn4mis4tion BYD is big in Australia and Alpha going off like crazy,,,,ppl whom focus on brand still like Tesla... Inverter alot ppl push Fronius but the new hybrid Gen24 series hearing linking with BYD is a bit tricky, but sold one yet....Sungrow big here as easy to set up & 10y warranty...PV, most around 425watt now for residential....A 10kw system is around $6000 in Aus....Alpha 13.3kw cost around 8k aus wholesale

[@andypandy2797]

Have thought about shipping to UK as there is some profit to be made...As UK seems very expensive

[@Fishbait075]

Do these panels cause bright reflection from the sun? Asking as they seem to be such an angle that reflection into the neighbours top floor windows might become an issue?

[@daiashthomas]

Tell your neighbours not to look at the light. 😂

[@deang5622]

The sun constantly changes position in the sky.

[@richardharries5551]

Hi, my local Pembrokeshire SOLAR installers put a 7.3Kw system on my roof last November 2021 but still haven't installed the Tesla 10Kw BATTERY due to supply problems. Would you consider installing one of your SolarEdge 10 Kw batteries booked up to my SolarEdge inverter, and this would then stay in situ until the Tesla BATTERY becomes available to fit as.an extra battery.? Would love to put my email or phone details here but then I'd get too much spam so hope to get a reply as I can rarely find my way back to this video.Today I gave British Gas only 3Kw for free but daily power given away is around 30-45 Ish hence my request for a battery as I urgently require some storage. Many thanks for suggestions.

[@deang5622]

10Kw battery? So you are another one that does not understand and the difference between kW and kWh. I will give you a clue. One is a measure of power, the other is a measure of energy. They are *not* the same.

[@deang5622]

Would that be 3kW or 3kWh you have given British Gas? Have you ever read an electricity meter? Have you never noticed that the readings are always in kWh and kWh is stamped on the meter next to the reading? Is it that you don't understand kWh and you do understand kW, so you just omit the h because you don't understand it, you think that the kWh units must be wrong? - even though it states kWh on every mains electricity meter in the entire country?

[@neilmick6778]

​@@deang5622 why act like a b*llend? Unless you're a total idiot it's easy to work out what he means. What a sad case trying to put someone else down and make himself feel superior 😂

[@serraios1989]

10:50 Have you had any optimisers that failed?

[@ellas6101]

I read an article from an Australian installer that approx 2% of the optimisers fail , we will be installing solaredge in April by an installer who only installs solaredge. I asked him about the failure rate and he also said around 2%

[@serraios1989]

@@ellas6101 Was it Mark Cavanagh of Brisbane? He has written about the solaredge failure rate that his company MC Electrical installed and he has also published a video that string inverters perform very well in partial shading, making the use of optimisers or microinverters unnecessary

[@WattsMiner]

I would never get locked into solaredge! Much better to do victron/solark/eg4... or any other AIO system

[@andypandy2797]

Everthing low energy in UK,,,I think as lack of sun,,you be doing higher...we live in Aus, lots of sun,,we install 30 x 415kw panels,,,13kw plus system,,,with 13kw plus batteries and still not enough to produce free energy for clients

[@anonymouspdg6121]

Looks great and hopefully once settled down will generate good power. Is there a reason why equipment like the inverter, battery etc are never in the loft space? Is it a safety issue or is it because it's easier to install and access in a garage etc?

[@wilteduk007]

Heat can be an issue and that battery would weigh quite a bit. Ease of access, installation and maintenance on ground level is normally best.

[@OvalRenewables]

Thanks very much! We sometimes install the inverter in the loft but never the batteries, they weigh a lot and don’t like the idea of them being up there with poor ventilation!

[@anonymouspdg6121]

Thanks, that makes sense.

[@andylees2940]

lol what a humongous ugly battery to store such a paltry charge. No info on the impact of the shading on spv generation. Otherwise another slick video and very professional installation 👍

[@wajopek2679]

It includes a fire extinguisher inside that battery too.

[@OvalRenewables]

Hi Andy, thanks for watching. We actually like the look of them but it’s up to everyone’s preference! 👍

[@Marcel030NL]

There seems to be no isolation on the roof? Right? We are generating clean energy but a lot of energy is lost again due to an non-insulated roof?

[@solarcuevas8138]

Bom dia eu 3 anos que so estalo solar Edge ass Emerson da cidade de campo mourão Paraná Brasil

[@robertbennett-ce9oy]

Dont waste your money with a solar edge battery ive been promised for months for basic battery control and still nothing all i want to do is partially charge the battery on cheap rate electricity then top up on solar but all it does is fully charge on electricity and send my solar to the grid so im always paying for electricity. Their customer service are not interested in helping.

[@JaylanYilmaz]

Any update on this?

[@paul_london]

This solar edge battery is expensive as hell. There're much better batteries with more capacity at lower price and better chemistry (=safety).

[@jasimalijasimali4061]

Pele's me jop

[@dintsa8969]

fire hazart on those wooden beams

[@OvalRenewables]

Thanks for the comment. It’s not a fire hazard though 👍

[@dintsa8969]

@@OvalRenewables shouldnt intall an aluminum bar first and put the optimizers on that and not straight on wood ?

[@diatonicdelirium1743]

OK, loud music starts and I'm off...