Our new RV is broken then our attorney does THIS

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[@rp1645]

I wish everyone was looking at an RV especially with sliders. 😊 Would turn on everything, especially the parts of the RV that are technical. 😊 You must never fall in love ❤ with how it looks 😊 always run the parts that move. I wish that the change was filmed out of motors. Have the repair guys walk you through manual operating. Never fall in love with the inside. Look at the tech side of all operations 😊 I hear this all the time with your video 😊 the owners must know how to move parts manually. Don't just go by what the salesman says. Make a tech walk you through operations. Especially after watching all your videos. The owners must be experienced at the Tech side of RVs. Never fall in love with how it " LOOKS"

[@stanfordbanks3399]

😮

[@ronhanish]

Drive it to the RV lot where they bought it, stop making payments, then sue them with a different lawyer for your money back. Buy a different one, and Boycott the bums with big signs in their parking lot so all the customers see how they screwed them

[@Bob-rd9vd]

It's been many years and many people have tried. Who pays more in tax, you or the RV manufacturers? Right, so don't expect the government to step in and change anything,. DO NOT PURCHASE AN RV. Go find another hobby.

[@crpruns69]

Greedy companies 😮ill build my own before I get taken by these greedy snakes😮

[@charlesforbin6937]

LIZ IS GETTING 'GREIF' CAUSE SHE'S PISSING OFF THE RIGHT PEOPLE.....KEEP GOIN LIZ....

[@specag31]

As the WW2 saying goes, "You get more flak over the target."

[@rebeccapinion4997]

My husband and I were looking for an RV until I came across all your stories. We have changed our mind now

[@1Whipperin]

Never buy a new RV. Look for a used RV built before 2020 that has had a good home. You can still find a good one.

[@hotpuppy1]

@@1Whipperin AND get an INSPECTION from an independent inspector.

[@LizAmazing]

Yes, lots of good used ones out there, Rebecca. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2018 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching. For more about what to buy used see my recent video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gITSZqFod5tlg6M

[@timothydavis1440]

Second lead wire from the battery is loose.

[@AyatollahOfDahmsistan]

Same here.

[@ib516]

The RV industry should be ashamed of the junk they sell.

[@eiloen]

You think they care? People still buy it, they're not going to change.

[@freds7002]

as long as they get the money

[@realtree297]

@@eiloenwhy sell gas for 2 bucks a gallon when they’re lined up to bye at 4.50 per gallon? True story huh 🤷‍♂️

[@johntalbert8227]

@@freds7002 RV industry mantra, the 3 f's. Find em, F**k em, Forget em.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

I saw an outside slide lock WELL over 2 inches off. So it'll never latch correctly! Is it REALLY that hard to take a pencil or marker and put it through the screw holes??

[@ronhall3686]

Boycott buying a new RV made in Indiana and letting your hard earned money send a strong message. The Attorney General of Indiana not investigating massive amounts of RV consumer complaints proactively speaks volumes of corporate donor monies.

[@LizAmazing]

Indeed! It's time for the RV industry (and Indiana) to wake up and do right by the consumers. Thanks for watching, Ron.

[@kenromaine2387]

I am holding off buy a new RV upgrade till the Elkhart RV MFG's fixes the quality & warranty issues with the products.

[@crimestoppers1877]

Lie to my once shame on you, Lie to me twice shame on me. Just say NO to RV's built or assembled in Indiana. Can we help this go VIRAL? Pass it on ?

[@roberts.1400]

@@kenromaine2387 Don't hold your breath, I have a feeling nothing will change substantially anytime soon if ever ...

[@FrankFox-yu1xf]

Maybe it's time for a class action lawsuit against these companies that are allowing RVs to be sold, that should not be on the road, because they are dangerous!

[@carlwellman3623]

Good for you Liz, putting pressure on the poor workmanship many RV manufacturing companies are turning out!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much for your support, Carl. I really appreciate your support. Feel free to share this video to help get the word out.

[@jamess5154]

I love the way the RV builders and sellers make it sound like they always wanted to make things right--well make things right when a you tube influencer takes on the story.

[@LizAmazing]

Indeed! Thanks for this, James!

[@eiloen]

All the people without a YT person taking an interest can kick rocks tho. The behavior of these companies should be criminal. But it isn't, because people have voted in scum that undermined consumer protections.

[@artlife6210]

General lost my 265k sale when they tried to get us to sign a financing agreement that gave us $0 for our creampuff 70k Monaco tradein by showing the trade value but fudging the price of the RV up to negate the tradein with BS charges and extras. Thank goodness our financial attorney came with us to sign the deal and he found the shenanigans almost immediately that we might not have caught. Also the RV delivery was an RV that had just arrived from the factory and was a shambles of a dirty damaged mess the same day we were to sign the contract and take delivery. Avoid General at all costs.

[@LizAmazing]

Wow. Thanks so much for sharing this. So glad you had a financial attorney to look things over. Thanks for your comment, and for watching.

[@bounderchris]

That is an old trick in the car business… my grandfather used to own dealerships and they make it look like they’re giving you a great trade in but they are absolutely trying it steal it by playing with the numbers… I recently went with my brother to buy a brand new car and caught so much they had to remake the whole contract… they definitely weren’t happy they got caught… you are much better off with that cream puff Monaco than a new rig until all this QC gets worked out… the good news is with everything hitting the RV industry right now, one of two things have to happen… one, we get a president in office that can put the country back to where it was before all of this inflation and the RV industry gets their quality on track or two, they get the quality back on track and raise the price a little, in the big picture a couple grand more for a quality rig is well worth it, but with everything happening I can’t see them surviving without quality coming back.

[@FREEDOM195844]

Keep the older Monaco!

[@medjtd01]

@@bounderchris hate to tell you but no president is going to get the RV industry to improve their quality. The industry needs to do that themselves. And if a President were to focus on the manufacturing of US made products I rather he or she focus on the airline industry first!

[@bounderchris]

@@medjtd01 I was talking about the president fixing inflation

[@Lori245]

These RV companies need to stand by their products! My God they’re built in the USA act like it!

[@LizAmazing]

Well, said, Lori! Feel free to share this video to help get the word out and pressure REV Group to do the right thing. Thanks for watching.

[@paulastewart7973]

Amen

[@b0borden437]

Built in Indiana means RUN, I'd go to China for an RV rather than these rip-off agents!

[@crankshaft007]

Nothing is going to happen till they make lemon law nation wise for RVs and trailers.

[@justpedal65]

Sadly, that proclamation doesn't hold water in this day and age. I've worked in both automotive and aerospace, and I'm here to tell you that the US pride and work ethic was exhausted a long, long time ago. It's also in other products. I proudly bought Duckworth Merino wool (made in Montana) apparel only to be extremely disappointed compared to my Meriwool apparel from Amazon. We, as consumers, often confuse the workers and the quality systems in parts of Asia with their communist government. In fact, China, Taiwan, and Korea have a similar work ethic to Japan. Yes, they've become somewhat "westernized." However, they work efficiently and are conscientiously consistent. This is something I can not say about the US... and I worked in manufacturing my whole career.

[@randiD123]

You're not the first nightmare out of General RV.... Friends in Tampa are still living a nightmare with the Tampa dealership.

[@shekharmoona544]

Lehtos law talks about this all the time.

[@AyatollahOfDahmsistan]

His podcasts are AWESOME

[@LizAmazing]

He does! And I was just a guest on the DUI Guy+'s channel. The more people that get the word out, the better.

[@tedwalford7615]

​@@LizAmazing Steve Lehto has referred to Liz and her work in at least one of his videos!

[@LizAmazing]

@@tedwalford7615 has he? I did not know that! Let me know which videos. You won’t be able to drop a link here but just tell me the titles. Thank you.

[@RaoulThomas007]

Does he discuss Lemon Laws for RV’s?

[@georgeb1364]

The more I watch about these problems the more I appreciate my 50-year old Classic restored GMC motor home. Built by General Motors not a box on a truck chassis.

[@RaoulThomas007]

The GMC motor home was way ahead of its time. They even appreciate.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

I saw some very comfy ones that were International. About 15 cameras, too which I'd want if it were 30 feet long, too!

[@pitcher-od4iw]

My wife and I bought the RV of our dreams and the nightmares began. On our inaugural trip, we were driving on the interstate and suddenly the hood flew open and smashed in the windshield. Upon pulling over on the shoulder and opening the door, the door fell off onto the ground. Next I noticed one of the side storage access doors was missing and had probably blown off somewhere on the highway. It was at this point I realized we were having an "auto-body" experience!!! Is there life after an RV death? Lord, help us all, because the RV industry surely won't!

[@zLigHt44]

Wow 😳 Hollywood should make a sitcom about a RV family,all the craziness they go through 😂. ❤

[@tyharris9994]

Was your RV made by Boeing?

[@jeffwhite3021]

You're lying.

You made up a story just to insert that 'auto-body" joke? LOL

[@nohippietruckingandtransportat]

I had been pondering an RV for the last year or so, but the headache doesn't seem worth it. It's bad enough it's a depreciating asset, but a money pit on top of it. Thanks for sobering me up

[@TSinRM]

Listen to your instinct. Don't buy one. We're done with them.

[@nohippietruckingandtransportat]

@@TSinRM I never knew there were so many issues

[@tyharris9994]

Reward yourself for doing the smart thing. You deserve it!

[@islandhopper100]

buy a 4 runner and stay in hotels...go places rvers dream about going. Save time money and the heartache of owning something that is always broken in some way.

[@nohippietruckingandtransportat]

@@islandhopper100 I hear that.

[@barbarapalmer268]

Wow, what a mess. I feel so sorry for them.

[@LizAmazing]

Me, too. I hope Fleetwood, REV Group does right by them. Feel free to share to get the word out and thanks for watching.

[@andrewking4727]

I’m no mechanic, but I have a hunch that the source of Krystal & Sue’s electrical gremlins are originating from a bad chassis ground of the electrical system. A bad or incomplete or insufficient chassis ground can cause all kinds of crazy electrical problems throughout the whole RV. Their best bet may be to go visit a good automobile or truck electrical shop that specializes in such things. Just my two cents. Hopefully it all works out for y’all 🙏🏼. Houston, Tx

[@harriettanthony7352]

this writer agress, having had this issue when I drove a gas car

[@Saunders64]

I agree totally.

[@ericelam1014]

Excellent suggestion.

[@phakeAccount]

The days of having confidence in a quality product that was built by professionals who care about their work are long gone. Welcome to the post-covid era.

[@keithallen3119]

I bought a used Super C in 2015, it was a 2007. No major issues at all with that unit, just the typical wear items after putting over 30k miles on in in 2 years crossing the country. Build quality was acceptable. During that time I took the RV inpector course with NRVTA in Athens, TX. What an eye opening. The lack of quality and the manufacturers not supporting the junk they built, all of them, was dishearting. At least I knew a fair amount to be able to address any issues after the 2 weeks of learning. In 2020 I bought a 2017 toy hauler, a Work and Play, which seems to be built well and so far it's been decent. Again no major issues but last trip the microwave indicated it might be giving out. In general, they built them pretty well back then, but have since cheapened the build quality of the Work and Plays. This will be my last RV as anything newer is too iffy to waste money on now. Until consumers stop buying the junk, the manufacturers will continue to build junk and not stand behind what the stick people with. A sad state and the govt won't step in either.

[@REL3712]

You are so right.

[@ross7684]

Covid has nothing to do with it...they were trash long before covid hit. I purchased mine in 2018 after retiring and in less than 6 months it had water ingress and delamination of the wall below one window.

[@user-pp2ze4yq3m]

@@keithallen3119 -- Indiana state legislators are *not* for sale! They're all already bought and paid for! In Idaho, our legislators receive more of their campaign funding from out of state than in state (and I'm sure we're not the only state where this is true). So it should come as no surprise who they're working for. HINT: It ain't the voters -- that much we know for sure. :(

[@davidmeeker7481]

This has been taking place loooooong before Covid. Wake up !!

[@abubbleoff1742]

Worked on RVs for years. If you like headaches,buy one. Great channel!

[@justmyopinion9041]

These stories are absolutely INSANE thank god no one has gotten hurt. These RV DEALERS have some scam/racket going.

[@user-qj7bi1vz7y]

So glad I’m hotel kinda guy 😂 your channel sheds light on everything I don’t want 😂 drama, stress , frustration…

[@greyhoundmama2062]

Yeh...I'll stick with the motorhome. You can have the bedbugs. 😏

[@user-qj7bi1vz7y]

@@greyhoundmama2062 was on the road for 3 months last year, 26 states, probably 40-50 hotels, never saw any signs of bedbugs … not sure what type of places you frequent… I just don’t want the depreciation, upkeep, set up , tear downs, leaks, oil changes, brake jobs, and engine and transmission issues… besides, stayed in Manhattan cheaply, went to broadway shows… no place for a motor home in downtown New York …and there’s 100 hotels for every 1 campground… no planning or even reservations needed… great for a spontaneous traveling guy like myself… but I do enjoy the horror stories of the camper crowds ✌️😁

[@harriettanthony7352]

@@greyhoundmama2062 Bed bugs cost you LESS than any motorhome- IF there is a bug problem, a few $ can of 'raid' and problem solved

[@jimsteinway695]

You’ve saved thousands of people from getting screwed. And prevented a ton of sales by thieves at RV companies

[@filomenaregan1537]

It’s so maddening to hear these stories. I feel so bad for these women. thanks Liz for continuing to make people aware of the shoddy quality of newly manufactured rvs

[@TSinRM]

Having owned several class A diesel pushers, I understand how it feels when you get on the road and you're holding your breath in fear of something going wrong. I thought the solution was to buy a lightly used RV, hoping that the seller had worked out all the bugs, but nope, it didn't matter. We still had several expensive and frustrating experiences. We finally through in the towel and sold it on consignment. We're done with ANY RVs. The build quality these days is terrible.

[@greyhoundmama2062]

So you passed on the problem child to another victim? Not a good look.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

I would have stopped the first time. Just me?

[@Australiaisupsidedown]

​@@greyhoundmama2062 so just eat tens of thousands of dollars scrapping it? 😂

[@greyhoundmama2062]

@@Australiaisupsidedown It depends on your personal integrity. My conscience would not allow me to unload a lemon on someone else. You sow what you reap.

[@thedude2601]

Sadly, the REV Group also manufacturers ambulances, fire trucks and other equipment that people depend on in emergencies. People like Mark Skonieczny (6M plus annually) apparently have no problem disrupting peoples lives for monetary gain.

[@mr.wilson8340]

Worked out of Horton ambulances for years, top tier. They must do something right.

[@robert-lv4vd]

You are doing a great service for the rv owners Liz. Enjoy your channel

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much, I'm so glad you're here, Robert!

[@jayhom449]

Glad I bought a older RV (1996). This as no slide outs but I am redoing the inside the way I like. Sorry to hear they are having big problems with their RV.

[@kevinpastian2703]

Lawyer time...after looking at so many RV videos, you couldn't give me one !!!

[@paultruesdale7680]

Thank you for all your efforts Liz. Vacation is supposed to be a time without hassle and stress. RV build quality makes me want to stay in a five star hotel instead of taking the plunge. Definitely going to be taking my hard earned cash elsewhere.

[@LizAmazing]

I don't blame you, Paul. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2018 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching. For more about what to buy used see my recent video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gITSZqFod5tlg6M

[@OrmondOtvos]

@@LizAmazing Wouldn't joining the Facebook group PRECEDE buying the RV?

[@LizAmazing]

@@OrmondOtvos correct. Yes, before buying you want to join a Facebook group to learn more.

[@albertmosack8797]

The states attorney General needs input from all us poor souls

[@angie-xy5sf]

UUUUHHH. MY STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS A CROOKED CRIMINAL. we need to get rid of criminals in politics

[@albertmosack8797]

Yeh I hear you on that. People are ready to lose it with the scumbags in this country

[@gracietilert8952]

They are probably taking kickbacks

[@ItsMe-rl7ex]

I would call the insurance and tell them about the electrical issue that you are having, then say you was told don't worry if it catches on fire the insurance will replace then ask the insurance if they would like to pay you whatever 😅you paid for the RV when it catches on fire. I did that a three year ago insurance send a adjuster with an inspector found RV was a lemon they made the company or dealer to take it back they gave a check and took the RV . Insurance don't like loosing money. It would de worth trying. Sorry about all that happened good luck and your lawyer probably got paid off by the dealer or manufacture.

[@Jimmy-Legs]

They’d probably cancel their insurance

[@andrewfyakim525]

Liz, you are a national treasure! And, you really are amazing, for all the help you provide the RV public and/or potential RV public.... After watching dozens of your videos (and dozens from other similar KZbin sites) I have to wonder why anyone would buy a new RV. The RV industry is on self-destruct. I'd possibly by a used one (after an extensive survey/inspection), but even though I can well-afford it, I wouldn't even consider getting a new one; not from ANY manufacturer. Is there even ONE RV manufacturer with an ounce of integrity? Is there even ONE that makes a quality product? Are there any RV's from a Japanese company? They're the ones who forced the US car-makers to up their game.

[@shellchenonceau6987]

Lehto's Law video channel warned people of lack of RV lemon laws for years

[@bluestormcloud791]

Sold "As is".

[@paleghost]

@@bluestormcloud791 even worse, normally even with 'as is' there is an 'implied warranty of fitness for use'. So if the frame breaks in half on the ride home due to design deficiencies, it would be covered by 'fitness for use'. But now the dealers are forcing customers to waive their right to 'implied warranty of fitness for use'' and 'merchantabilty'' in the paperwork. The customers don't even know what they are signing. The lawyer here probably figured $5K was the best he could get. The only answer is legislation. Owners have to band together and get laws passed. It's not easy but it can be done.

[@bluestormcloud791]

@@paleghost Lehtos Law explains the bind in the contracts that buyers sign. That is why he warns people against ever buying one.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

​@@bluestormcloud791 as is doesn't cover the lomon law. You can't do that w a house, either. You HAVE TO disclose EVERYTHING.

[@bluestormcloud791]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 lemon law does not apply to vehicles over 12K pounds, mobile homes... there is a reason why lemon law attorney Steve Leitho stopped taking RV cases. You sign aware your rights in the contract

[@danoc51]

Dang! Count me in as never buying another RV. Good luck to Crystal and Sue. They need it.

[@michaelsullivan1052]

I hate hearing these stories. So sorry for all the RV owners. I'm a hoosier and I'm embarrassed for Indiana that these horror stories originate in my state. I hope this gets fixed for you.

[@LizAmazing]

Yes, me too. Thanks for watching and stay tuned, Michael.

[@wolfshurtleff1833]

Ladies - we are so sorry to hear what you had to go through. And we thought, that we had to deal with a lemon and a builder who was dragging their feet. By the way - we got back our trailer at the end of December 2023, after it had been at the shop for repair for over 10 weeks. Everything was fixed really well by Bish's in Idaho Falls. But since then the toilet broke, the fireplace/heater and the AC (fun at outside temperatur over 90). We are having the technicians constantly over to fix the issues and on top we have to fight with warranty ... Good luck with your journey from Brook & Wolfie - AND again Liz - great job. You are giving all of us a voice 👍🏻👏🏻

[@martyh4777]

In fact, my wife and I have a 2003 HR Admiral 34 PBD that we have enjoyed since 2017. Never broke down , pretty much everything is working. We are in the process of upgrading to a different/ larger used DP coach. Very likely, we will be donating our current coach to a veteran through a local Veteran's support office to help a veteran in need travel our country in style. It is shocking to me that older coaches like ours scare some folks even through they were build.much better and everything works.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

I'd get a small bus for under 5k. Very solid build. 4-6 windows should do for most situations and gas wouldn't be horrible, AND only one parking spot.

[@drn13355]

If they can't get windshield wipers right you know you have problems. And what good is a warranty if they can't fix the problems no matter what? Great a worthless warranty. Wonderful.

[@LizAmazing]

I know. So very frustrating. I hope this is a wakeup call for them and they do better. Thanks for watching, Daniel.

[@cindymadill9676]

I opened a case about rev groups windshield wipers with with nhtsa. It’s common for the wiper blades to fall off. Seems kind of dangerous to me

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

I saw one at the RV show where they left an outside slide lock off by 1.5 inches! All you have to do is put the pen through the screw holes! Not brain surgery! At that point, I knew I'd buy either a tiny trailer (13 feet) or a small bus.

[@henryhill3778]

Convinced me NO RV, just a nice Van, a tent and Hotel rooms. They're actually cheap, and someone cleans up after you!

[@AyatollahOfDahmsistan]

Thank you Liz for your support of these people in need

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you so much for being here!

[@davidchrismer]

Liz this isn't just a manufacturer problem it is a supplier problem, a industry problem! It use to be a warranty was for assurance that everything was manufactured properly and maybe never needed. Now it seems that every component is a issue and these breakdowns are showing just how bad the whole process is and every supplier needs to be held accountable.

[@LizAmazing]

Yep! There's a lot going on. But shame on the mfr for ever letting poor quality out the door AND for not taking care of their customers. Thanks for watching, David, and stay tuned.

[@MrShobar]

The manufacturer of the vehicle is responsible for the overall condition of the new vehicle and to warranty the vehicle as suited for its intended purpose. The component manufacturer may provide further warranties but the vehicle manufacturer is responsible for all component parts he selected to be incorporated in the delivered vehicle.

[@surfboy344]

The RV manufacturers write the quality specs for the suppliers. They don't care about quality. They care about money.

[@MrShobar]

@@surfboy344 Proof that the "RV manufacturers write the quality specs for the suppliers...". If they didn't care about quality, why would they write any "spec"?

[@willlazenby1050]

@@MrShobar So that there is bare minimum. Doesn't mean it is quality in the highest sense just that it meets minimum standards.

[@theodorerinehart781]

Glad you are back Liz, thought you were spooked, you are a strong person

[@frankez1975]

You ladies did everything right, I hope they take care of you two 😊

[@LizAmazing]

Me, too. Feel free to share this, Frank, and stay tuned.

[@christopherhorak6606]

Very well done Liz, Thanks. Sorry the girls are having a tough time with the coach. From a retired ASE master tech, its sounds like each issue is related to a ground problem. Overlooked by Techs constantly, grounds can be the gremlins they are looking for, especially lights dimming. Check ALL body to frame grounds AND add some. I had a Mack in the shop, burnt every ground strap and melted the accelerator cable because it was the last ground! Gulfstream Tourmaster had 270 Tech hours from 3 shops, same list as yours. 4 ground straps cleaned and 2 new ones, done. Let's get em back camping!

[@ks8452]

"Customer service is our top priority, unless it's going to cost the company money..."

[@tmc1473]

WHY!!!!!!????? What a beautiful rig, but such a piece of crap. Please help these people whoever and whatever. Thank you Liz.

[@Maxx1066]

That Rv with Electrical issues sounds like a bad Earth the lights flashing and the generator issues this happens sometimes on Horse Boxes. The slide outs can be problematic due to being extended out for along time especially if it was used for display.. I definitely get a independent Auto electrician to look over the RV sometimes problems can be very simple to fix. If your in doubt ask a mechanic or Electrical guy to give your Rv an inspection may save you a lot of money later.

[@Ima-hoot]

I am an engineer and the hardest problems to diagnose are the intermittent ones. However since all the electrical systems seem to be having issues I would : 1. investigate for lose connections near the main control panel 2. Check the main chassis ground is solid and not lose 3. See if a short circuit could happen due to exposed wiring or wiring that is crimped in a bundle that could short. 3. Try new house and engine batteries 4. Next time the electricals don’t work check the voltage of 12V along several points in the system. 5. The engine battery and house batteries are supposed to be isolated. See if they are isolated. Flashing dash lights suggests an electrical issue on the engine side. Find a good engineer and see if they can solve your problem.

[@renodowns5256]

Onan generators are the worst. I bought a used RV with less than 11,000 miles on it and I had the Onan taken out and got a Honda generator. I gave the Onan to a friend who was a mechanic and he could never get the Onan to work.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

It looks like you haven't let the company bullies slow you down. Good work!

[@nkw3157]

People need to start contacting their states' Attorney General, their local media consumer advocate. Splash it all over social media.

[@jeffsteele1295]

Liz I have a 2007 class A motorhome. I have had it for over 2 years with no problems whatsoever. After watching your videos with all these problem these people are having with there new and 2 year old motorhome. I would consider selling my motorhome if some one wants one that seems to never give a problem. After watching all you videos I would take only a billion dollars for it maybe . lol just having fun thanks so much as always.

[@carolyncouch4094]

I'm so sorry this has happened to you. This is so unfair. We need to keep exposing these crooked companies.

[@JeanieBooher]

Thank you for continuing to call-out these poor business practices! Making sure that customer service is GENUINELY what comes first over greedy profit-seekers is the only way the RV industry is going to gain consumer’s trust again. Keep up your crusade, Liz. We need you!

[@MaryWehmeier]

Ladies, report your attorney to the State Bar For conduct charges.

[@MrShobar]

Why?

[@Starfish2145]

Huh? Just because the attorney isn’t good that doesn’t mean they’re unethical. 🤦‍♀️

[@cparkerh]

Are there people out there that does new and used rv inspections? Like someone does when or before buying a new home? And doing this with the new buyers present during inspections. That would make a huge impact! This sounds like something that could be a lucrative business actually. RVing has really gotten very popular in the past few years.

[@normanmallory2055]

Brand new rv what did she say $138,800.00 for nightmares that never stop , my gawd ! How can any company sleep at night that’s connected with that ! Good job Liz , I’d like to know how this unfolds over time !

[@sphillips6357]

I was considering an RV but after seeing a few videos I've changed my mind. Instead I'm going with converting a school bus. It won't have a slide out but I'll know that everything I put in it will be quality and working properly. The year lost in building the school bus RV will be more than made up in the dependability of the RV and lack of downtime. Not a solution for everyone but if you're a mechanic, why not.

[@charlenecastaldo3602]

You go Liz! I'm so sad for these women. Dealership, Fix their RV or give them a new one! This is isn't safe.

[@1hjehje]

It's sad when someone has to hire lawyers and go on KZbin to rub the dealer / manufacturers' nose in a problem(s) to get what they paid for. I'm retired now, but when I was young I used to work at the big three automotive dealerships during the summertime to pay for my university fes. The quality of the vehicles during the 70s was awful and the dealerships could care less. I bought a new Buick in 1981 that was nothing but problems, and I had even purchased the extended warranty. After seven months of torment I finally gave up and bought a Datsun. It was a great little vehicle and the service was excellent. I bought mostly import vehicles ever since. In 2018 I purchased a Winnebago trailer and I was disappointed with the overall quality. Covid provided an opportunity for me to sell it and get my money back. Manufacturers love to put the blame on someone else or to say that the problems were due to cheap Chinese components. My trailer had a lot of Chinese parts that worked just fine. I particularly don't care where a manufacturer sources their parts from. If they choose to build their products using the cheapest parts on the planet, then the end result is on them. It is very unlikely that I would ever purchase anuother RV.

[@njlauren]

Yep, that is what GM used to do, esp that POS Roger Smith. He blamed lazy labor, he blamed Japanese dumping cars, as did the rest of the US makers. The problem wasn't the workers, it was the companies were run by finance types and marketers. Beancounters care about only one thing, cutting costs, and marketers are all about flash. RVs are the same thing, the beancounters make a crap product and marketers give you granite countertops , electric fireplaces, big screen TV's& llunge chairs..kind of like 1970s cats w landau roofs, 'corinthian' leather,etc

[@GM-jv9jz]

vehicles built in the 70's- early 80's were far better built than they are now.

[@davidcline9547]

It's a covid build, we had one and had to trade it in. We got a REV group unit (Bounder) and it's been great. We have had it for a year. I feel bad for them, we have dealt with a covid build and it was bad! Good luck Girls.

[@dgriffin6074]

I have viewed many YT videos about RVs, almost all were tales of woe. I will never even consider buying one, especially a new one. It just seems that a quality design and build are not important to the manufacturers. What IS important is getting that big fat check in the bank. Legislators, if they know what is good for them will pass legislation making the dealers and manufacturers accountable.

[@LizAmazing]

Indeed! It's time for change. Feel free to share this video and thanks for watching. Stay tuned.

[@kmonto1971]

10,375 views in 2 hours... You are doing a great job Liz...

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you, glad to be using my channel as a force of good, and just getting the word out there.

[@terrywalker9904]

I feel so sorry for these 2 Ladies for what they are going thru. We bought a used RV a couple years, a 2007 Winnebago and had ZERO issues, so don't give up...

[@martyh4777]

Best advice I personally read and followed, DO NOT BUY A NEW RV ! Instead BUY A USED RV manufactured prior to 2008. Do not be scared. If you are handy enough and inspect it very thoroughly you are much more likely to get a good functioning coach that you can spend happy times camping with.

[@williambello4089]

most quality campgrounds don't allow rigs older than 10 years old.

[@martyh4777]

@@williambello4089 Well, I've seen some of these campgrounds and for the most part I don't see quality being offered. Sites are way too small, wifi not stable, and often they have no back-up generator so if the area has a power outage the 50 Amp hock-up I paid for is dead but no refund. All too often cleanliness doesn't match the price one paying. So, no, I pass on these non- quality overpriced & restrictive campgrounds.

[@timaz1066]

These type of electrical problems are almost always isolated to bad grounds. Tell them to find a good electrical tech and they will be able to fix that motorhome.

[@Yvonneb_]

Great video. Really hope they get the help they deserve xx

[@LizAmazing]

Yes, me too, Yvonne. Feel free to share this video. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.

[@dengen3944]

I would like to thank you for everything you do for RV owners, you are easy to speak and good words to shut up the representatives who care about the customers. thank you once again for what you do, long life to you and we appreciate your beautiful work and please give your news after liz helped you just to thank her

[@user-vi2dk1qz5f]

Liz you do great work.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so very much for your support!

[@Steve-cw1zo]

Liz, how about changing the narrative and devote some videos to the honest dealerships and manufacturers who stand behind there products. That information could be extremely helpful to your subscribers!

[@carbonunit6573]

Liz… I need you to come in for your cape fitting. Super heroes all have them.

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, you are so kind. Thank you very much!

[@harriettanthony7352]

Gawd! I love my lowly tent even more-and I am writing this from the tent!

[@stephenharvey5932]

Nothing harder to find than intermittent problems.

[@garyp9906]

Hey Girl. Gary from Kansas here. This is such a sad story. Imagine buying a new RV, paying the money they did and have it in the shop half the time. I'd be livid! Like I said plenty of times...I will never buy a brand new RV again. We are starting to get our TT ready for a months long trip to the Pacific Northwest. Just noticed today, one of the tires is wearing bad on the inside. Another issue I have to deal with. It never ends! Anyway, you stay safe and keep these videos coming. You are making a difference, Girl!

[@LizAmazing]

Hi Gary! Wow, the PNW sounds like a dreamy vacation!!! Thanks for your support.

[@tom2698]

Sounds like a electrical ground issue.

[@LizAmazing]

Yes, it could be that. Don't know how it hasn't been fixed yet. Thanks for watching, Tom.

[@tom2698]

@@LizAmazing Pretty sad state of affairs in the RV industry. I hope they get it resolved and thanks Liz for bringing this to light for folks and helping RVers. We were going to buy a new trailer but because of stories like these (from people on the road and your channel) we are making alternative plans.

[@123spleege]

Man, you want a reason(s) to not buy an RV.....watch this channel. Having said that, I am sure glad Liz does this! Power to the consumer!

[@shepdogsd]

I have a 2016 Thor Chateau. It is pretty solid now. Lots of use (105,000 miles). I have had to replace the generator (2800 hours), A/C and and of course lots of minor fix it things. But that is NOTHING compared to the junk being slapped together now. New or used, you have to be handy to own an RV. And get a good mobile RV mechanic to fix things when you don't have time.

[@t34bravo]

Thank you for what you're doing Liz. You are amazing! I had no idea what a dumpster fire the RV industry had become.

[@brianpollard3500]

Another good video. Thank you Liz for keeping up the fight. We need to all unite and discuss a strategy for holding these companies accountable. The auto manufacturers are held to federal standards, Why not the RV companies?

[@chadperling2766]

RV owners and sellers need to go to state governments and have lemon laws strengthened to the cover the RV industry. That's when lawyers can be useful, because just like cars and trucks there will be established standards that cover the entire industry. It won't be long before manufacturing standards will take a giant leap forward because if they want to stay in business and stop paying out settlements, they will have to improve their products. Attacking individual customers with RV problems will never us get there.

[@Alexynr]

Why not get as many RVs as possible and head for the capital in protest , during the peak period 👍

[@MrShobar]

@@Alexynr No. That's a bullshit move. Public sentiment will quickly turn against you.

[@MrShobar]

Go talk (or write) to your state legislators. See if there is any interest in extending the scope of lemon laws. Your legislators generally offer public meetings to meet with their constituents. Check your legislators web page. Unless your legislator has been receiving too many death threats from the lunatic fringe, there's generally a meeting you can attend. Be cordial and don't start insulting them.

[@debr628]

My daughter had a negative experience with a small lightweight trailer ... and when I was considering going that route she advised NO! don't do it! ... then I happened across your channel and I'm gobsmacked! Your update regarding substandard frames was shocking in the worst of ways ... not entirely unexpected. it seems "assembling" an RV by having components made by different companies ... with little or no oversight/accountability for the consumer ... means everyone involved in the build is shielded ... with the exception of the consumer ... so so wrong ... now enter the financial institutions ... the consumer MUST keep paying for defective products ... or their credit is ruined. Long story short ... this gal elected to go back to tenting (well, glamping) and paying for hotels/motels if the weather is bad ... Thank you for everything that you are trying to do for average everyday people who just want to enjoy the outdoors. You are the voice of reason ... an appreciative Canadian

[@mylesflaig148]

We have a tent that is over six feet tall. I can stand in it. It has an entrance vestibule. Sets up in a few minutes. We put a tarp down over these rubber interlocking squares for a comfy floor under the tent. A couple of cheap carpets from IKEA, an electric heater and an induction hot plate, and we have a great time. Also have a Coleman picnic table screened shelter. Hotels and motels interspersed, and when weather is bad. Treat ourselves to nice restaurants with the thousands we save. Everything packs up nicely into our Honda Odyssey, which we have a two level storage system using the plastic shelves from Costco, and we sightsee and drive all over the place and right through the downtown and backstreets without any stress.

[@johntalbert8227]

@@mylesflaig148 sounds like a great system.

[@falcorthewonderdog2758]

I bought an older low mileage used RV for about a tenth the cost of new. It's a 2002 National Dolphin. 12 k miles single owner. I replaced brakes and tires and installed a new furnace fan. Been full time in it for 7 years. 38k miles put on it in 7 years no issues. My opinion things were built better in the 2000s compared to today. Total cost price plus repairs less than 28k. Sure its not brand new but it will hold up better than what is built today.

[@cindycierlik8162]

Shame on this RV industry. What a joke! This is heartbreaking and if the show was on the other foot I bet a million bucks that these issues would be fixed 😮 These manufactures have to step up and be accountable for the RV's they're making! 😡😱😠🤬 We bought used & for the most part have been good to go 😊

[@ClaremontClassicGarage]

I might not be able to get in a lot of parks because my 86 Holiday Rambler is "too old", but she always gets me where I'm going and was built well. It goes like snot (Power by FORD !!!!} and pulls anything you can attach to the back of it. But that was when HR was HR. 86 was the last year for "real" Holiday Ramblers. Now its just a name bought and resold too many times.

[@angelofthelight6650]

I hope RV manufacturers are watching these videos, because I was going to buy an RV and now I'm not, instead I'm just gonna build my own van out; after watching all of these videos.

[@RaoulThomas007]

A lot of great videos on YT about building out vans!

[@greyhoundmama2062]

You'll have a lot more fun that way. If you're handy, you don't have to buy one of these rigs.

[@JohnnyinMN]

I’m not an RV’r, but Liz is amazing. That’s one woman I never wanna meet when they forget the fries at the McDonald’s drive-thru window.

[@censoredeveryday3320]

LOL

[@brotherwind5015]

I'd individually put together and file separate small claims court suits. Group claims together but not exceeding the small claims limit. They definitely won't want to fight that because no lawyers. Subpoena the service manager, get statements from parks and the rep who is rejecting the claims. Also the folks who did the initial motors. All the evidence. I've never lost. They settle because there are no lawyers. They have to represent themselves. Hope that helps these nice ladies. Keep up the good work Liz.

[@jondonahue7163]

Good advice!

[@captainchinook1138]

I discovered this channel and Lehtos law today. Now that I am retired I will start up my own channel like I always wanted to. I have a 98 Chinnock. You want to talk about "built tough". The engine, the build, everything is solid. I am going to help Liz and Lehto and get the word out about how my "98 runs better than everything built after 2005. Greedy RV companys.

[@user-gl9iz1bp1r]

So happy we never brought a RV. Seems like a huge hassle. We own a condo in Sun City, AZ instead.

[@MrShobar]

Good move. It may appreciate in value, or at least stay relatively even. RV's are losers.

[@denanethereford5536]

Please, on behalf of RVers keep fighting, don’t back down. Thanks Liz

[@Saunders64]

i am a professional certified mechanic with 50 years experience. That RV has a Ground Issue. That is what is wrong with it. It is cascading the faults. I am STUNNED that these younger mechanics who charge 150 to 300 dollars an hour can't figure that out. My advice, SUE that RV Company. Hire a DIFFERENT lawyer and go after them

[@onrycodger]

Wow! That is sad. The work you're doing is apparently making a differance. Hopefully a good settlement will come to this case. As always, Thumbs up!😎👍

[@LizAmazing]

Yes indeed, my hope, too. Thanks for watching and have a great weekend.

[@JessicaEngle-l1o]

Thank you for continuing to help out RVers!!

[@bounderchris]

Fleetwood has always been a great company and I have always bragged about them… I have owned many Fleetwood’s… I hope they do whatever is right here… John Crean would have taken care of this…

[@williamboyle8918]

John Crean is dead, and all the parts are made in the conga

[@MrMoneyHelper]

Build your own RV. Do it with a cargo trailer or a box truck. It costs a lot of money but less than an RV manufacturer. You could also skip the RV and use your $100,000 for many years of hotel rooms.

[@hippiebits2071]

I personally would love to do that because I enjoy that kind of thing but my understanding is that people who go that route my run into issues with the resort style camping the people with these high end rigs often do. A lot of those places seem to have strict standards on what they consider an acceptable RV. Some even discriminate based on the age of the RV too even if it’s in stellar condition. ***Anyone- if I’ve been misinformed on this matter feel free to please jump in and correct me, I’m here to learn :)

[@robertroth287]

Such a simple request "I want an RV that works and I can rely on"........yet so difficult to find.

[@kathykeene2092]

I was going to make the same comment. They paid A LOT of money for their RV and so one would expect that everything should be working. I hope their dreams of camping this summer will be realized.

[@DGardhouse]

I am surprised with the Onan generator, not working and so on and so forth oh and is known for being reliable. That’s the only generator I’ve ever owned or nothing but Onan and I’ve never had a lick problems with him. So sorry to hear about all the problems that you had with your RV. ❤️ from Toronto 🇨🇦

[@stickbogart3657]

👎 it’s all about the Investor. That’s what it’s about doesn’t matter how big the company is. It’s about the investors who bought the company or who invested in the company profit profit profit? 💰💰💰💰 years ago. I had an RV repair business. Liz knows me quite well. You can’t trust the RV industry. The best thing to do is to buy used one and stay away from the brand new ones and get one that’s got American made chassis American made engine American made transmission General Motors Ford or Dodge. Buy one that does not have slide outs because they are only going to get worse. Trust me. I know what I’m talking about. Liz has had this. Twice This is the expansion rate of LP gas when it goes from a liquid to a vapor when it’s released inside of the coach or outside of the coach in the atmosphere 1 liquid gallon of propane will expand to 270 gallons of explosive vapor if there’s a leak 10 liquid gallons of propane, will expand to 2700 gallons of explosive vapor 20 liquid gallons of propane will expand to 5400 gallons of explosive vapor if there’s a leak 30 liquid gallons of propane will expand to 8100 gallons of explosive vapor if there’s a leak 40 gallons of liquid propane will expand to 10,800 gallons of explosive vapor if there’s a leak 50 gallons of liquid propane will expand to 13,500 gallons of explosive vapor if there’s a leak Where is your test results of the propane leak test? I bet you don’t have them.

[@madusmaxamus8670]

Having been a mechanic on cars for 45 years I found that those ghost problems are the ones that will drive you nuts the quickest. I specialized in electrical and diagnostic (I know I am crazy) and was able to develop ways to find those ghost problems that others had trouble finding. Electrical is the most difficult one of all of them if it is a ghost problem. If it isn't working then you can walk up and put a finger on the cause. If it's working what do you do then? See the issues with finding the problem. I finally purchased an RV park and had it an additional 20 years and am retired now. Now I let others chase those ghost problems and I am able to sleep well at nights.

[@mitchsmeykal22]

After watching several of your videos it sounds like what is necessary is an RV Lemon Law much like what happened with the US auto industry in the late 70’s early 80’s. Keep up the fight.

[@barbarapalmer268]

I always look forward to your videos on Friday.

[@LizAmazing]

I appreciate that! So glad to have you here, Barbara!