Our Triune God Among the False gods

Ask Pastor John
Episode: 884
Guest: Michael Reeves
Transcript: www.desiringgo...

[@SpiritofProphecy999]

I have been looking for this for years !!!!!!! I have needed this for a long time. I was a confirmed catholic before I fell away into divination and “the craft.” Then I studied Islam for 7 years before being born again…… I’ve had a major difficulty for years because I haven’t been able to find someone to tease out my Islamic weeds….. Although- I still have questions. He said a few things that I would need to ask more about… a couple things he said are based on pure assumption….. so unfortunately, it didn’t help me as much as I was hoping. Wish I could follow up with this person.

[@mwendwa_m]

What an amazing journey

[@danielscully9356]

Super good perspective. I love the concept of not making it woerd math that doesn't make sense, but rather focussing on how it makes possible a God that loves and is relational. The Gospel is so rich!

[@lcenteno262]

I used to be a Trinitarian in one of the world’s largest religious denominations for 53 years and taught and raised my own family the same for 18 years. I continued in this teaching right up until the day God had mercy on me and sent me the Holy Spirit who led me into all the truth (John 16:13). What does the Spirit have to say about this? If you have eyes to see and ears to hear, listen: “At that same time Jesus was filled with the joy of the Holy Spirit, and he said, “O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for HIDING THESE THINGS FROM THOSE WHO THINK THEMSELVES WISE AND CLEVER, and for REVEALING THEM TO THE CHILDLIKE. Yes, Father, it pleased you to do it this way.” (Luke 10:21) “Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will NEVER ENTER the kingdom of heaven.” (Matt. 18:3) Now, remember that show, “Are you smarter than a 5th grader”? Anyone here smarter than a 5th grader? Let’s find out. The topic is based on the doctrine of the Trinity. This doctrine declares the Godhead is triune being comprised of Father, Son and Holy Spirit who are “co-equal” with each other and “are all God”. Without being a bible scholar or having to twist scripture, this is really quite simple. Ready to play? Elementary 5th grade reading and basic 2nd grade math show us the truth of this matter; hence being like a child just like our Lord said: Open your Bible, go to the gospel of John and read the following verses for yourself: John 1:1-3. Now do the basic math. How many God beings do you count? 2 or 3? Having established that both the Father and the Son are God from what you just read, now read the following verses: John 5:17, 5:19, 5:20, 5:21, 5:22, 5:23, 5:26, 5:30, 5:36, 8:28, 12:50, 10:30, 14:6, 14:23, 14:28, 15:10, 17:3, 17:5, Rom. 1:1, Rom. 1:27, 1 Cor. 1:3, 1 Cor. 1:9, 1 Cor. 8:6-7, 1 Cor. 15:27-28, 2 Cor. 1:2-3, Eph. 1:2, 5:20, Philip. 1:2, Col. 1:3, 1 Thess. 1:3, 2 Thess. 1:2, Phil. 1:3, Heb. 1:8-13, 1 Peter 1:3, 2 Peter 1:2, 1 John 1:3, 1: John 5:20, 2 John 1:3, 2 John 1:9, Rev. 3:12, 7:10, 21:22-23. Now do the basic math. How many God beings do you count? 2 or 3? Those who consider themselves wise or smarter than a 5th grader, tell me, where in this world does 1 + 1 =3? The Spirit can keep going on with many more verses just like this. If you have the humility to be honest with yourself and what you just read, you will see the plain truth and the trinity doctrine is debunked. If the Holy Spirit was in fact God, why was he left out of all those verses? What happened to being co-equal? Little children truly believe in Santa Claus in all sincerity up until the day they discover the ugly truth of the matter, right? This isn’t any different. Why anyone continue to believe in a lie after the truth has been revealed with the preponderance of overwhelming evidence? Ripping the band aid off hurts, doesn’t it? But, “the truth will set you free” (John 8:32). So now that you have read and seen the truth for yourself, do you still believe in the false trinity doctrine or are you not smarter than a 5th grader? If you failed this test, go to your Bible and read John 8:47. Another biblical fact: Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Holy Spirit is God. Nowhere! Christ also said, “the Father is greater than I” (John 14:28). Clearly Christ by his very statement said they are NOT co-equal? This totally scotches the doctrine of the trinity that claims the Father, Son and Spirit are co-equal. Who would dare call Christ a liar? Sheer foolishness! How can anyone believe in the false doctrine of the trinity after reading the gospel of John? The gospel of John and other books of the Bible clearly testify that the doctrine of the triune god is a lie (John 1:1-3). The word “trinity” isn’t even written anywhere in the Bible, why would anyone believe it? The world foolishly says about the Spirit of God that he is “God the Spirit”. Christ tells us that “God IS spirit” (John 4:24). Do you see how foolish this is already? Why does God need a Spirit if he already IS spirit? It is the Spirit of God. The word “OF” being paramount as the Spirit belongs to God and Christ; the word “OF” denotes possession/ownership. They own it and they sent it (John 16:15) Don’t know who the Holy Spirit is? Simple, read John 1:51 and Hebrews 1:7, 1:14, and Psalm 104:4. There is our Helper in plain sight yet most are so blinded by the years of false teaching and lies they can’t see the truth. Angel of the Lord, Angel of God, Spirit of God, the Spirit of the Lord, the Spirit = Holy Spirit. Read Hebrews 1:7 and Psalm 104:4. Now go to the Book of Acts and read Acts 2:1-4 (The Coming of the Holy Spirit). This isn’t hard to figure out. Still can’t see? Paul cautioned us about false humility and the worship of angles (Col. 2:18). The Holy Spirit warned John twice in the Book of Revelation that he should not be worshiped (Rev. 19:10, 22:8-9). Let’s really simplify this: If a fallen angel is a demon spirit that belongs to Satan, then an angel of God can only be what? A Holy Spirit because he belongs to God who is holy (Lev. 11:44, 1 Peter 1:16). Think about it, if the Holy Spirit is a single 3rd person of the Godhead, how is it even possible we can we all have it? See how foolish this is already? Do I get the Holy Spirit today and borrow him to you tomorrow? Can you see how foolish this world’s wisdom is. The answer is found again in Matthew 18:10 for it is written: “Beware that you don't look down on any of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven THEIR ANGELS are always in the presence of my heavenly Father.” (Matt. 18:10). The words “their angels” (Holy Spirit) shows ownership. The Holy Spirit for each one of us was not sent until Christ came into his glory (John 7:39). Let the Bible explain itself, it's quite simple and straightforward. The teaching is very simple without having to twist scripture and believe in something that just isn't there like the word “trinity”. Biblical truth is solely based on the word of God. It’s time to unlearn one of the greatest lies of so called “modern Christianity”. Believe in what Christ said and taught. Believe in what is actually and clearly written in the word of God and not in the invented mythology or eisegesis of men. Get this, if you are worshiping the pagan invented god known as the “trinity”, you will never, ever receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:32) as you are breaking the 1st Commandment, a spiritual law of God’s coming kingdom. “that their hearts may be encouraged, being KNIT together in love, and attaining to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, BOTH of the FATHER AND OF CHRIST, IN WHOM are hidden ALL the treasures of WISDOM and KNOWLEDGE.” (Col. 2:2-3 NKJV). Whom has ALL the treasures of wisdom and knowledge as you just read? The Father and Christ. Again, how many God beings do you count? 2 or 3? Lay down your pride and what you think you know about God and the Bible and unlearn the lies. Repent and let God through the Holy Spirit teach you. Unless you become like a child, you will never enter the Kingdom of God. Forget what you think you know as the Lord has sent me to reveal the simplicity of his teaching in spirit and truth. Finally, let’s read Proverbs 30:4 together: “Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is HIS name, and what is HIS SON’S name, If you know? One more time, how many God beings do you count? 2 or 3? Still don’t believe it? Let’s read the following: “Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. DO NOT ADD TO HIS WORD, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.” (Prov. 30:5-6) FACT: The word “trinity” isn’t found anywhere in the Bible as it is “added” to His word. So now ask yourself, who is the liar? If today you hear his voice, harden not your heart! Repent for the Kingdom of God is near!

[@germaan1]

That's just beautiful! God bless you

[@jonathanwick5582]

This was incredibly sophisticated. Thanks. Just ordered his book.

[@Rohan-zj8nl]

No trinune God ever existed nor exists

[@TheKingdomOfGodIsAtHand]

every trinity are false gods, the trinity is not Christian, it is pagan, Jesus said his Father is his God and our God. the trinity is not biblical, just another pagan pantheon, John 20:17 Authorized (King James) Version 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

[@TheKingdomOfGodIsAtHand]

@Al Ien "and My God" he has a God, Jesus is not God because he his Father is his God.

[@TheKingdomOfGodIsAtHand]

@Al Ien no, I'm not Muslim, Jesus says His Father IS HIS GOD, so I listen to him over heretical trinitarians who base their doctrine on Greek philosophy

[@claudiozanella256]

Jesus is a NON-OMNIPOTENT God: of course an omnipotent person doesn't NEED HELP and be led into the wilderness (see Jesus after being baptized) (see "the Son is not able to do anything of Himself..."). Jesus is God because HE HAD BEEN the almighty God in a very distant past. He then got rid of his omnipotence to become like a normal man. This means that at a time He is DIFFERENT from the almighty God since He is like a normal man now, but He is NOT DISTINCT from God either, since He had been that almighty God. The almighty God thus only dwells in a very distant past ("the world has not known you"). However - due to his omnipotence - from that past God is able to reach to us now with his words and actions. Since NOBODY is here to speak those words and to take those actions, we say that the presence of God here corresponds to the presence of a spirit. He is the Spirit of God aka Holy Spirit ("God is a spirit"). Only a RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD is available, GOD IS NOT. Only Jesus and the POWER of God (it's a thing) are here, they figuratively sit in heaven next to each other. No triune God exists.

[@mitchellc4]

Hello Jesus is the Messiah The Son of God The Son of David The Son of man The man God has chosen to be his anointed king The man God will judge the world through Jesus has a God There is no triune god in scripture Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@claudiozanella256]

The almighty God CANNOT be here now, because we would be expected at the same time to A) know the future AND B) being able to decide. But this is impossible, it's a contradiction, like sitting on a soft stone. This is why the almighty God is IN A REMOTE PAST and the Son of God is HERE: He doesn't know the future. It's a "workaround" in order to dodge the above logical hindrance, no triune God exists.

[@claudiozanella256]

@Al Ien It doesn't make sense that the almighty God be here: He would know even his own future. This means He would be obliged to respect every detail of it.

[@RalphHumphries-th1ym]

A different God just like they want not believe the real one true God and his Son who he sent they love there Calvin who was a murderer so they do with the real God and make with twisted logic and mind created,go ahead believe in it you friend Satan loves you and you listen to him and no truth is great right