"Our Whole Profile Is Wrong" | Red Dragon | Screen Bites

Red Dragon (2002) SYNOPSIS: Ex-FBI agent Will Graham (Edward Norton) is an expert investigator who quit the Bureau after almost losing his life in the process of capturing the elusive Dr. Lecter (Anthony Hopkins). After a series of particularly grisly murders, Graham soon realizes that the best way to catch this killer, known as the Tooth Fairy, is to find a way to get inside the killer's mind. For Graham, that means confronting his past and facing his former nemesis, the now-incarcerated Lecter.
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[@thomasduffy1085]

Will- "he's not keeping them...he's eating them." Hannibal- "Whaaaaaaaaat?" (hahaha)

[@fistinyourface7053]

MOre like: "No shit, Sherlock!" :D

[@raksh9]

"No way, dude!" (nervous internal giggle)

[@Swarm509]

@@raksh9 (chuckles) "I'm in Danger."

[@holysaintknight343]

LOL

[@Stevesk0011]

He must be impressed right there.

[@victorlozano3350]

When he say, “ have you shared this with the bureau ?” He knew he was gonna have to kill him

[@hibryd7481]

We've all seen enough movies...if anyone ever asks you, "Have you told this to anyone else?", it's basically okay to kill them on the spot cuz they're 100% the bad guy you're looking for.

[@houseofshuffles449]

Have you shared this with anyone else?

[@frostyrobot7689]

@@houseofshuffles449 If he doesn't reply, we'll know it's you. Just let me get my pho

[@nathanbarnhart7823]

⁠@@frostyrobot7689 your Vietnamese noodle soup? I don’t understand! Where did you go?

[@tiana2906]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@theseageek]

“Oh I’d love to get you on my couch” Damn Hannibal hold your horses

[@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat]

"geez at least buy me dinner first....um....on second thought...."

[@xyhmo]

Great scene, love the facial expressions of Will. "I almost had it". Lecter knew Will was about to have a new insight at any moment, and that Will once the idea would present itself would know its correct. Lecter knew what he had to do already during the conversation, Will reading the book was incidental.

[@daywalker48603]

xyhmo those damned Quantico grads and their “elements of epiphany”.

[@davidsnow2420]

Yes! The subtleties in this scene are amazing--- how the actors play off the other's expressions

[@zotharr]

Interesting, never thought about it like this, thank you

[@bojandolinar1535]

Incidental, where have I heard this word before? :)

[@delanorrosey4730]

He smiled when he said, "it'll come to you." Meaning the idea of his perpetrator being right in front of him and his M.O. is so shocking to him, that he'd dare not think it. But if you have any doubt of your theory, I'll gladly confirm it for you. I did enjoy our time together, but now is the time for this story to end and the sly fox to jump over the sleepy dog.

[@magetaaaaaa]

Love the way Hannibal tries to confound him with the thinly veiled accusation that he doesn't trust him anymore, trying to steer him away from connecting the dots.

[@CognizantCheddar]

I took it as Lecter trying to confirm if Graham already suspected him.

[@kevindonaldson8655]

What's the significance of the word 'sweetbreads?' How does Will know it's Lector just from finding that one word?

[@slytub]

@@kevindonaldson8655 he literally just said that the killer might be eating body parts , the book is on human organs , seeing the word sweetbread means he was trying new recipes

[@stateofopportunity1286]

​@@kevindonaldson8655 Sweetbreads are the thymus, which they referenced in the scene as being one of the body parts cut from the victim.

[@bobdole7292]

If he says I don’t think you trust me anymore, it’s an accusation. There is nothing thinly veiled. It was his literally words. Weird KZbin philosophers always trying to look profound

[@silverlemons971]

That face that will pulls at 1:57. I think that face showed hannibal that Will was starting to suspect him from that second giving him enough time to find a knife

[@davidsnow2420]

Exactly! I scrolled through the comments hoping that someone had mentioned this. Just incredible nonverbal conversation running through this scene.

[@Fran_Tluanga]

the possibility just dawned on him. But then he doubted himself again cos he had been working too hard and being tired and weary, his judgement might be clouded at the moment

[@cmonclair27]

@@Fran_Tluanga I agree. The possibility just breezed by his mind. Hannibal subtly moved the conversation to deny him entertaining the thought.

[@daweller]

2 great actors

[@princessbeexxxx]

*Will* :He's not keeping them, He's eating them. *Hannibal* : Ya don't say...😯

[@theGhostfaceKiller666]

A part of me is really bummed that I can't have Dr Lecter as my Psychiatrist. Imagine how helpful he would be, as long as he didn't try to roast me up.

[@daedalus5253]

Lecter should be part of a show, where they roast people.

[@markbird1242]

Also, as long as you don't show bad manners or else, get ready to have you're kidney eated with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

[@rnash999]

Aha, so you'd end up as a Mason Verger then and cut off your own face. I wonder how many of his patients he actually helped. He sort of helped the orderly Barney.

[@lostcosmonaut6479]

He sort of helps people in the show.

[@exparrow777]

He would definitely roast you up.

[@CYP0]

In the opening scenes of Red Dragon (2002), Hannibal conceals his usual creepy voice underneath a somewhat normal one. Very impressive voice control by Sir Anthony Hopkins. 3:21 the moment Will realises why Hannibal never invited him to his kitchen, and grateful that he never offered him a ‘bite’.

[@ProjectV6]

Anthony Hopkins is perfection!

[@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri]

Damn near. Very good actor.

[@abdiaziizhaydar3527]

Hannible is One of the most thrilling characters ever created. Thanks to Anthony he is also the scariest character ever

[@sophiecooper3624]

Have you seen the show Hannibal with Mads Mikkelsen ? It's amazing

[@isaacgraham5727]

I love his use of the word “eidetiker” in this scene, meaning a person who has an eidetic memory. Very cool and obscure word also used in the book. Something tells me most people who watch this scene probably mishear Lector as saying that Will is a “lie detector”, which admittedly is understandable.

[@stephengrigg5988]

That's exactly what I thought he said. Thank you, I had no idea Will had a photographic memory

[@kas8131]

Interesting, I didn’t catch that

[@leolamau]

you guys are wrong. youtube subtitle has it as ID attacker!

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

thanks for that. i was wondering why he said that

[@THANATOS-PRIME]

Yeah, the book did use that term a lot. Very great read once I started I couldn’t put it down.

[@cartoonbase4fans640]

The scary part part of this scene is that the killer is right in that room and he doesn't know it 0_0

[@meris8486]

Dramatic irony

[@leejay1101]

He does. He's playing him. He says later 'I let him kill me'

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Cartoon Base 4 Fans Well spotted

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@leejay1101 No. His surprise when he opens the cooking book and finally makes the connection is private and genuine - Lecter is out of the room at that point. There are two plausible explanations for your quote. The first is "I was a fool not to see it clearly and to allow it to happen" but frankly I find the second more apt: Will is always unsure of his own subconscious knowing and his own motivations. His body knows things before he himself does consciously. That's his curse and gift. An example of this is his doubt about whether he subconsciously set up lounds to punish him and draw out the red dragon. But in this case he be referring to how he might have subconsciously sought out Lecter before going to the bureau because something down there was pulling the threads together. Something that might even be slightly suicidally be prepared to use himself as bait. Remember - Wills greatest fear is that lecter is right: that he understands monsters so well because he IS one himself. He carries a tremendous amount of fear and guilt about that. Catching monsters is about struggling with that, as well as stopping them. Enough that an act that comes very close to a personal sacrifice might be considered an act of redemption within his personal emotional economy. It might be the thing needed to begin to answer the question or atone for what he is. Atonement is emotionally tied in with drawing out the killer while perhaps, at the same time his unconscious understands that this may the only way to draw Lecter out of hiding and maybe make a mistake. Will knows that whoever the monster is - he has one disadvantage: he is insane. So this looks to me like a kind of desperate high stakes psychological roll of the dice under the surface. But Will is not consciously aware yet. He is in the process of finding out and he came to scratch that itch.

[@holysaintknight343]

Yes very chilling fear this caused me.

[@peteroscarson1188]

I truly believe Ed Norton is perfect in the role.

[@epichal4883]

I hate to be that guy but Hugh Dancy was the perfect Will. William Petersen was good too. Norton was well acted for the most part but he wasn't too good of a casting choice and he didn't carry the same weight as in other roles. American History X was insane, he should have won the oscar for that one.

[@FlagggRandall]

​@@epichal4883It wouldn't be fair to compare both Grahams when the TV series difers so much from the source material. Even then I think Norton himself could have made a great performance doing what Dancy did in the series, since he did something similar in Fight Club (the tormented guy who doesn't understand what he really is or capable of, etc.) Both movies and series have great actors, the Laurentiis sure know about this stuff.

[@epichal4883]

@@FlagggRandall Way different in my opinion, the Narrator and Will don't have the same disorders, dispositions or niche. I do agree though on some parts. Darren Criss said it best, actors are only as great as the roles they're given. You get David Fincher to direct you then you're in for something. You get Brett Ratner to direct you and you get overacting at its finest and tone deaf scenes.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Petersen was too unhinged. Norton emulated the character Harris created.

[@kevinc8955]

@@ricardocantoral7672 This. In the books Will isn’t some autistic weirdo like he’s portrayed in the series. I have no idea why they went that way with the character. It’s lazy writing that gives the illusion of character complexity.

[@jonassteinberg3779]

It was brilliant when Lecter said, "I'm sorry I'll no longer be able to enjoy your full confidence."

[@Fran_Tluanga]

im starting to think..

[@Paicheman]

"Im starting to think I might no longer enjoy your full confidence."... CC is your friend.

[@CognizantCheddar]

132 upvotes for a misquote which completely alters the subtext of the actual line. 🤦

[@AgentRafa]

@@CognizantCheddar 🤣

[@mattyu1818]

It's definitely "I'm sorry to think"

[@kamalikadg8284]

Two brilliant actors sharing a screen,loved it ❤

[@Foxboy106]

if i were lecter i would have let will accuse me of being the hunted killer then tell him that my having written 'sweetbreads' in a cookbook is not evidence of murder. only cooking.

[@fernando3061]

Will would have gathered more evidence.

[@zotharr]

At that point, it's more than accusation. And Hannibal knew this

[@stoictraveler1]

Brilliant movie. Great acting throughout.

[@francisphillips53]

2 great actors.. doing dance. Great film.

[@lshtar777]

... softening him up, with a pinch of flattery, a backhanded compliment sprinkled in, then a dollop of self deprecation... a clever course of distractions.

[@24tommyst]

So gentle, like slipping into a bath. He did like Will in his own way.

[@sarawang1257]

Although this is a creepy conversation, I still love Edward's voice. It just sounds very soothing.

[@Emearlson123]

Edward Norton is angry...you wouldn't like him when he's Angry.....

[@mrenigma4641]

Yeah cause the he'll beat you up in his fight club

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@mrenigma4641 Or curb stomp ya!

[@Peter-wd1yo]

The profile was correct. It was someone with surgical background. What was done with the parts didn't affect the profile

[@j_freed]

0:28 *just then, Hannibal gulps down a piece of the Flautist’s thyroid gland, believing that Will did not notice this crafty move…*

[@Jokaanan]

"i almost had it"

[@alanjohny3796]

Amo esse filme💞

[@bubbaguy4411]

It always irked me that they used "eidetiker" which literally is someone that has an eidetic (photographic) memory. According to the description Lector stated the word they might have used is empath, but that might have been a small part of the equation and I am not sure there IS a word for what Lector defined...

[@jadefire2817]

It is usually the sole definition, but they use it here to explain that Will is empathic to the degree that he *can* visualize the killer's motives and actions. So it's photographic recall, but also "psychic" , because obviously he uses it to "create" scenes he's actually never personally viewed. It's shown so much better in the television series.

[@Trent_Brooks1990]

Hannibal definitely anticipated this was going to happen, the detective was persistent and brilliant, it was inevitable 😅

[@TrillHipHop]

"HE'S... THE BEST. IT WOULD BE A CRIME TO DEPRIVE THE WORLD OF HIS PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATING SKILLS"

[@Xehanort10]

This scene is referenced in the 6th episode of Season 1 of the TV series when Miriam Lass realises Lecter is the Chesapeake Ripper when she sees the Wound Man diagram in his office and realises that Lecter copied the diagram to kill the hunter Jeremy Olmstead. But instead of getting stabbed and nearly gutted like Will did Hannibal geabs Miriam from behind chokes her into unconsciousness,cuts her arm off and then when she regained consciousness he forced her to record a message to Jack Crawford saying she didn't know where she was and didn't want to die. Season 2 then revealed that Lecter had brainwashed her with therapy techniques and made her believe that Frederick Chilton was the Chesapeake Ripper and the man who had kidnapped her instead of him. Hannibal then imprisoned Miriam in a pit and sent her severed arm to Jack with a note saying "What do you see" Jack later found Miriam in the pit which was planned by Hannibal and then framed Chilton as the Ripper by killing Dr Abel Gideon another serial killer and planting his body along with Ripper evidence in Chilton's house. And when Chilton was arrested and Miriam was brought in to identify the man who kidnapped her Lecter's brainwashing made her believe it was Chilton and she shot through the glass of the interrogation room hitting Chilton and apparently killing him.

[@Tkdlolboy91]

dude, you just spoiled the series from that episode up to the point of the "mid season finale" in season 2. how do you feel about that?

[@Xehanort10]

Tom Hardy Most of the people on this video have probably seen the series anyway.

[@Tkdlolboy91]

Xehanort10 If it had been a late season 2 clip, i would agree. Since its a scene from the start of the movie red dragon i would need to say: i dont fucking think so.

[@Tkdlolboy91]

Aarron Lowther totally agree. i think the season 3 storyline is gonna include dolahyde so it will be interesting to see who plays him and what he does to the character.

[@danielainsworth4092]

they said that chilton is coming back from season 3, and soon the series will start to cover the red dragon part of the story

[@agenttheater5]

Hannibal looks very proud of him.....

[@Surfer041]

Hannibal did not want to kill him, he had to kill him. Will was cordial, and respectful to Lecter.

[@Timsterfield]

So Red Dragon was first in the series, but was made after SOTL and Hannibal. The timeline is all askew, but this was an enjoyable film.

[@t-gotitanup9386]

Tim Rogers yes the order of the story is: Hannibal Rising Red Dragon Silence of The Lamb Hannibal But some reason the books and movies were made like this

[@ayami123]

Red dragon was a Remake of Manhunter

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Great. Now I'm hungry.

[@marvinrodriguez7971]

Hulk & Odin

[@theirishinsanity86]

Lecter had him looking for jack the ripper

[@Redstripe921]

Sir Anthony Hopkins is a vegeterian irl !

[@starwarsroo2448]

This part of the film should probably hqve been more integral to the story

[@masterwerneck]

Have someone some article or video showing the deage Anthony Hopkins make up process on this film?

[@mollybolton8425]

He meant "oh, I'd love to get you on my plate"

[@sharonhayaalee-v5974]

"אסור לאונן"! גם מהחזקים. 😜

[@Munkylaw]

Why does the one entry sweetbreads connect the dots? Does Will speak french and was the sweetbreads a certain organ that was taken?

[@daywalker48603]

That process of realizing you have been being shilled the whole time.

[@madmmayhim7611]

“Have you shared this with the bureau?” Should have been a big red flag...

[@daywalker48603]

Madam Mahem that’s how they do it- minimize the threat to the operation. 🍺🙂

[@madmmayhim7611]

D Walker 🙂👍

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

"Some body part used in cooking" ... to be a fair - more or less all body parts are used in cooking one way or the other

[@daustin8888]

Even the rectum?

[@TheTimestopper]

@@daustin8888 Actually yes, rectum meat is considered quite good if you can get past the smell during cooking

[@chiyo-chanholocaust8143]

It's pretty lame they had this as how he was discovered. Might as well have super inteligent Dr.Hannibal leave a note laying around his room written IT'S ME I'M THE KILLER

[@xyhmo]

You mean how Lecter might have inadvertently revealed himself when he stabbed will in the gut?

[@jonathancampbell5231]

To be honest, it was worse in the book- he left out an image of the Vitruvian Man and marked out all of the areas where a recent victim had been cut, even though in the book Will wasn't working with him and that was the first time they had met. He wasn't yet a super-genius in that novel, but it was still pretty dumb of a respected surgeon-turned-psychiatrist.

[@mahe5370]

This 3 minutes is better than the whole TV series 3 seasons

[@pho3nix-]

Now why would he keep that book in the open like that?

[@BipoIarbear]

Confidence of getting away with it for so long, or confident that he can sway the investigation where he wants. I’m going to sound bad here but how I see it is being a serial killer is like any job kinda thing, u can be amazing at selling cars for example but your going to make a few mistakes and lying is so tricky, I sell cars which is why I made the comparison and u might think car salesman are just liars an cheats , it’s not the case Cos if we lie it always comes back to haunt us, it’s best to be honest or in the odd situation let people assume an answer, in the movie he obviously has at least some say in the investigation but if he had said “maybe the killer is eating them” Ed Norton looking in that book wouldn’t have meant anything at the most he would have thought it’s part of the investigation. It’s easy to know people lie when they lie but if the lie has at least a piece of truth it’s not that easy, that’s my take on it anyway , if I’m honest I don’t thing lector would have cut to precision and varied the M.O just to throw the investigation off, sometimes being imperfect on purpose is better than being perfect , the fact that u can do that is a far far better feeling , I play snooker , I’m not great but I’m ok but I really enjoy playing and if I win all the time my friends aren’t going to keep playing . Iv drones on for ages there😂 hope it helped

[@matthewgriffin7857]

Sweetbreads?

[@omnilisk279]

Sweetbreads is a word that means "pancreas/thymus" to chefs. Will already knows the suspect eats parts of his victims and that word was in a cookbook.

[@dietdrpepper15]

Lector should have given his actual profile, they never would have caught him.

[@kynanerrington8145]

Which part of the movie is this? Is it right at the front?

[@francisco-vb9wg]

he tried killed him because he matched him intellectually. this one felt personal.

[@NxDoyle]

Ralph Fiennes in the thumbnail, Hopkins in the title, but it's 100% Ed Norton's scene.

[@ElephantRage]

Good job, Sherlock.

[@sdp271]

The funny thing is that I always felt that this scene was omitting some sort of context. I haven't read the book so I don't know how it played out on page, thus I don't know if this was how it happened.

[@imcallingjapan2178]

0:08 "Our whole profile's wrong." "Dafuq?"

[@So-Be-It_85949]

"Our Whole Profile Is Wrong"

[@sharonhayaalee-v5974]

Frightened.

[@Stormx2233]

The TV show was so much better. It was a massive shame they stopped making it.

[@Nikki_the_G]

They were supposed to be bringing it back but now, who knows. Brilliant series.

[@sharonhayaalee-v5974]

so yes. They are very afraid to die.

[@eddielasowsky7777]

Manhunter shits all over this.

[@werre2]

No. I wathched manhunter last week. Red Dragon has better ending twist, and was an all around better movie. The psycho was way better in manhunter, but seeing jack black getting killed tilts the scales to reddragon all the way.

[@eddielasowsky7777]

Spörde Spyrdenstein Incorrect.

[@mncdssctn9110]

Manhunter had a better Graham and Dolarhyde, but other than that, I prefer Red Dragon in every way.

[@jebulon1864]

William Petersen is much better and more believable in this role.

[@justinmanser7525]

We need an ending to Anthony as Lecture....I think Hannibal was underrated as a sequel. I have watched it numerous times, and although there is an alternative ending in which Starling runs away with him, a conclusion to the original story where he cuts off his hand (or maybe just severs a few fingers) would be great. Harris hasn't written an ending but I think there's plenty to explore and an opportunity for a huge wtf ending to the trilogy. Looking forward t the Saw X movie in October too.

[@dannygjk]

Did you read the book? The book does follow your suggestion.

[@guymann1660]

hannibal lecture

[@justinmanser7525]

Always misspelling it😳

[@amandagergely3853]

Yep my sunscribers as sir thank you sir tje best ever evours

[@holysaintknight343]

Not full capture of scene, you missed the intro.

[@austinhuber3131]

This scene is the only reason to watch this movie over Manhunter.

[@humbertoventura6818]

So the guy is clever enough to understand that the killer eats its victim's parts but not to make the connection between the killings and a forensic doctor that just asked him "...did you tell this to anyone?" Come on! He would be prime suspect of this theory on the spot!

[@bojack99]

He was very tired

[@rp5231]

He was also his personal friend and right in front of his face the whole time. We can't overestimate how much of an advantage we have knowing what we know or the Advantage we would have even stepping in fresh with the revelation we just had. As smart as Will was, he was way too close to the situation since the killer was Hannibal.... Even someone with Will's abilities can't see the whole picture of a puzzle when they're looking that close at it and they're a piece in it... he just didn't know it

[@mantexas-mc7hi]

We mustn't be too harsh @humbertoventura6818. It was his first time.

[@MASmeinezeit]

3:15 Ba Ba Baaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[@TheSavageBountyHunter]

edward norton needs a academy or Oscar Sorry typo 😅😅😂😂

[@starwarsroo2448]

Emily Mathews I was just about say that, his career dipped here from his earlier work and did some crap for a good few movies

[@Chris66able]

Ok if you like him as the exact same character, played in the exact same way, in every movie regardless of plot.

[@starwarsroo2448]

Chris66able which even the best actors actually do more than not. He is quite versatile, he just peaked earyl, then made a few crap movies, then kinda started doing serious stuff again. His Kingdom Of Heaven performance ( depsite the film not being great) was absolutely brilliant and he had a mask on

[@lchavez6973]

Nah he was miscast, read the book

[@LittleBlueOwl318]

If you mean an Oscar - yes. A Grammy?! No. A Grammy is to recognize "Outstanding Achievement in the Music Industry". Norton did nothing musical in this movie.

[@ratman7795]

"HOW I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU ON MY COUCH"??????? HANNIGRAM???????????

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

whats that

[@ratman7795]

+DeathCreationist the pairing of Hannibal/Will (you would be more familiar with it if you've watched nbc Hannibal)

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

Jexa Tunes oh i see, i've watched the series over again many times, an obsession of mine lol. now i understand thanks :')

[@Pingaheimer]

Edward Norton and Anthony Hopkins are really good on screen together.Were they ever in other movies together?

[@LouSassoleSledgecock]

Google it ya clown

[@SP-ki5gn]

Ignore Lou, he's been under tremendous strain recently, he meant to say, 'I suspect the answer is no'.

[@lovestop101]

Google it ya fkn idiot

[@rhapsodyinglue8758]

@@SP-ki5gnwhat with kids, the clambering wife, and job, 30 years at the paper mill….the old chunk of coal just lost his cool for a moment is all.

[@hermask815]

As of July 2023, no other cooperation according to the IMDb “people working together” function. At least not in acting. Non acting or referenced in documentaries, yes.

[@danielparra5173]

What does “sweetbread” is referring to in this scene?

[@nambelas]

Google is your BFF.

[@wingedwolfx8004]

SOTLs reference 2:55 ?

[@christinasavannah7992]

Norton looks too.young to be an FbI agent he is 34 here but looks 23

[@scrumsie]

I wonder if Lecter is " Ill mostro " ?

[@madmmayhim7611]

On the tv series he is, not in the book.

[@johnkalap9314]

In the book and movie it was the janitor at the Caponi library, and Hannibal knew it.

[@darkstar1639]

Sweetbreads....😵

[@traveller4life123]

How did Will get his answer from books?

[@NewWakfuFan]

Robin vs. Odin

[@marvinrodriguez7971]

NewWakfuFan & Hulk

[@montsesanchez9297]

XD

[@Valhallen002]

So much more artistic and fluid than Manhuntard. "I almost had it" "It'll come to you" Aka I'm gonna eat your fucking heart before it does. Norton, Hopkins, Foster, they're the best.

[@ben17ism]

I dunno why but when I first saw Red Dragon, I though that Hannibal looked annoyed or not very impressed by Will when they talked later on in the movie

[@jonathancampbell5231]

By that point he was p*ssed that Will spoiled his fun by catching and shooting him and locking him in the nuthouse.

[@TheMerryPup]

My bias, but there has never been a good movie adaptation of this book. I’m a fan of Thomas Harris’s writing and the way he conveys the story in the book has never matched up on screen for me no matter who was playing the characters.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

3:22 I am vexed by that messy ballpoint pen star in that beautiful, leatherbound tome. That's not like Lecter at all. Consider his carefully crafted correspondance. The precision of his cooking, and the deliberateness of everything else he does. He MIGHT perhaps have written sweetbreads like that, with a dash of rushed artistic flimsy just to please himself, but frankly it's a stupid and needless trail to leave and it is inconceivable that he should need to leave himself af written translation of a famous french dish like ris de veau, which he has probably ordered in french restaurants many times, especially seeing as he is perfectly capable of reading the rest of that book. Who is that writing for? Certainly Lecter with his expansive memory palace does not need such base reminders. This is hamhanded, contrived screenwriting. I am vexed. Terribly vexed.

[@raksh9]

I suspect Hannibal did that deliberately, on the offchance that Will would find it.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@raksh9 To what end? What would he gain from that?

[@raksh9]

@@whynottalklikeapirat Hannibal enjoys the chase as much as the kill.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@raksh9 First - my initial critique stands: Hannibal would never write such a sloppy entry. Secondly - if it is hamhanded screenwriting (which it is, speaking as a professional) it would also be a hamhanded, vulgar and overly obvious move for Hannibal to make. Will "almost had it" and Hannibal responds "it'll come to you" = There is no need for the book. Besides - Hannibal is, after all, clearly unpleasantly surprised that Will caught on to him and it will anger him later in the cell to the point where he almost loses his composure ("then by implication you think you are smarter than me since it was You who caught me"). Hannibal did not know will would come around - it was a surprise visit sparked by a sudden undeveloped hunch. Consequently Hannibal had no time to plant a book of undergraduate clues even if he wanted to. He also did not know that will would make the Cannibal link, because that happened to Will through a series of coincidences that finally sparked his "artistic imagination". All this time they have been working on a profile that would help throw off the FBI. Killing an associate in your office at such a time is a huge risk to take. Even if Hannibal ultimately wanted to eat Wills brave little heart and expedite him painlessly out of genuine appreciation - this is bad timing. It is almost sloppy. Hannibal is not that. But he was caught unawares for once, due to his "disadvantages". If anything it is something in Will that pushed him to come around so that the answers would emerge from his unconscious. Anyway - the writing and the staging is bad because it's just simply out of character on so many levels.

[@AidanMclaren]

@@whynottalklikeapirat It's the classic "plot contrivance" you see in fiction. Honestly, the book should have been in English. That way, it still makes sense for Will's brilliant deductive skills to figure out Hannibal was the killer, and it doesn't make Hannibal look stupid by scribbling the English translation onto the page, for a presumably non-francophone like Will, to figure out Lecter was the cannibal.

[@PatrickSilent]

"Screen Bites"

[@alexludavertigo6926]

Ya don't fucking say🤣🎓

[@Blackstaar52]

Is this before or after silent of the lamb

[@benderbendingrofriguez3300]

before.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

It's a prequel. Made after, set before.

[@Subeffulgent]

Cheesey Arian puffy

[@noahbawdy3395]

This film had a huge plot hole where Will knew something the audience knew but he had no way of knowing.

[@mikespearwood3914]

And what was that?

[@PissG]

Will has a special ability that put his mind as if he is the culprit, deduce the culprit's modus and predict what the culprit's next move will be.

[@alanc1243]

I don't see how putting two and two together from a flash back that involved a murder victim and a turkey that is being cooked, has anything to do with being able to "think like a killer" He just said himself that they had the "profile all wrong" lol. Maybe i should get the book, i'm sure they dive into the profile's they are building a bit more in depth.

[@seamusburke639]

+Alan C The part I think they botched in this version is that, at the character's core, Graham is someone who can get into a killer's mind and see from their point of view. Norton plays them off more like regular epiphanies, which isn't as interesting.

[@OfficerFlatFoot]

sweetbreads

[@raylewis5223]

Wasnt he on the fbis most wanted who the f does will work for ?

[@reversetriangle]

Johnny Stevens WA

[@TrillHipHop]

THE BOARD RECERTIFIED THIS NIGGA THE MINUTE HE GOT OUT OF JAIL!!

[@sohazayed1757]

من فضلكم هل يوجد ترجمه بالغه العربيه

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

What does hopkins say at 1:18 - "I always suspected as much you are an ____ ____ " (sounds like Ider Tecker or something but I can't make it out

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

Well I found it, now to go find out what it means eideteker

[@bradleybrown8399]

CD D eidertaker one who assumes the personality of a subject to better understand them. it's almost a subconscious thing.

[@RetreatHell518]

I heard lie detector

[@gruberhans5069]

0:15 what's he said?

[@ShadowSonic2]

"De-Certified Doctors"

[@gruberhans5069]

@@ShadowSonic2 Thank you for letting me know.

[@alanc1243]

Then hannibal goes on to say that he has always suspected graham was "more akin to artistic imagination" Highlight being that hannibal had always suspected this. Graham went on to say "it doesn't make sense, your the best forensic psychiatrist i know, and somehow this never occurred to you. No wonder hannibal stabbed him lol. The writer for the movie didn't do a very good job.

[@ashtonhynes1745]

It's better than man hunter.. But my god watch Hannibal and then rewatch this movie and this movie pales

[@derricgreene]

People drone over how good an actor Hopkins is, as if none of the actors in the series could handle being alone and still be interesting.

[@tyfoparalax8894]

0:32 The way Lecter tries to look surprised😂

[@CognizantCheddar]

He _is_ surprised... that Graham has figured it out, despite Lecter's own efforts to misdirect the profile.

[@ewantaylor4478]

Does he survive ?

[@niggroid]

yea

[@SP-ny1fk]

A person connected to their intuition can get to the bottom of any mystery. Pity those who lack this connection - they are the lambs upon which wolves feast.

[@CognizantCheddar]

Edgy. 🙄 Also, 'intuition,' when it's actually accurate, is really just the conscious mind reaching a conclusion from data the subconscious mind has noticed. Then there's the other kind of 'intuition,' the kind which isn't accurate, and is really just make-believe rooted in emotional bias. I'm sure that's your kind.

[@jamess5415]

Smoochy sees the light