Out with the old, in with the ... OLD? | CRAIG'S WORKSHOP

[@CraigsWorkshop]

If I did another video on the lathe some time soon, covering things like installing the quick change toolpost, coolant pump, and so on, would anyone be interested in that kind of thing?

[@mumblbeebee6546]

Yes, sure! Whatever you feel like showing, I tend to enjoy watching :) Rusty is adorable!

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Hi Mumblebee and thanks, I'll proceed as planned then. Watch this space (And Rusty says woof 😊)

[@HM-Projects]

Yes, sure am interested. How shop dogs avoid getting swarf stuck in their paws is always a mystery to me. Cute doggo.

[@RobertBrown-lf8yq]

Absolutely mate 👍 I have an old (1997) AL960B and I’m in the process of replacing the motor. Bigger frame…. so I’ve had to do the same trick with the motor mount. Then had to ‘chop ‘n channel’ the rear guard because the motor pulley had moved rearward. I’d love to see your continuing upgrades. I also added…. A lead screw cover; a taper turning attachment off an AL1000C, & moved the threading dial to the front of the apron. Regards, Robert (Sydney).

[@CraigsWorkshop]

@@HM-Projects I just sweep and clean a lot! That is kinda necessary for the filming anyway, and Rusty keeps me good company so it is worth it 👍

[@jonsworkshop]

You will never look back Craig. Sympathetically modified to suit the new motor, very nice job. Cheers, Jon

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Jon, I appreciate you commenting and watching.

[@Preso58]

You and your electrician appear to have the same taste in clothing!😂 I recently upgraded my lathe with a 3 phase motor and VFD. I really like the ramp up start function. The old single phase was quite savage when it started. I think it put a lot of load on the gearbox and belt.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Agreed. This slow start was one of the features I liked for two reasons. First is it is easier on the lathe mechanics, and second it is a soft load for the house electrics. Allowing me to run a bigger motor (3hp) that I would otherwise be able to do. Even small motors can draw 10s of amps when starting up normally.

[@gangleweed]

@@CraigsWorkshop Yes, that's true.....the house mains will take a beasting if you load it with a 3 HP single phase motor....ask me how I know......so I fitted an electric clutch to my lathe, gleaned from a car's air conditioner drive......that allows the motor to keep running and I can switch off and on frequently without blowing the mains box.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Very clever Ian - I like that idea.

[@TheRecreationalMachinist]

Nice job, completed with your customary attention to detail. A bit of scrap angle iron and a couple of blobs of weld might have got you running, but your modification will last as long as the machine and no one will ever question 'who the hell did that!?' I look forward to seeing you making stuff together!

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thank you. I appreciate the encouragement. See you soon. 😊👍👍

[@Rustinox]

Always nice to have a new (old) machine. More fun times to come.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Hi Rusti. Yes, new-new machines are out of reach, so it's definitely new-old machines for me. More to come, that's for sure - this lathe needs quite a few projects to bring it up to scratch. Thanks for watching, see you soon.

[@TheKnacklersWorkshop]

Hello Craig, Good to see the new old lathe up and running... I'll look forward to seeing future modifications on it. Take care. Paul,,

[@CraigsWorkshop]

The more I look at it, the more work it needs! But that is all part of the fun and part of the journey. 🙂👍

[@misterbreakit2006]

I like your center measurement trick. Awesome, and very useful. I'm just setting up my benchtop mill on a stand I built for it and this will be very handy.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks, glad there was something useful in there for you 👍

[@wizrom3046]

There is another way; measure a hole diameter (inside jaws) and reset the verniers to zero, then just measure the two hole total distance (inside jaws) and it will automatically show the centre to centre distance. No need to halve things etc. 👍

[@CraigsWorkshop]

@@wizrom3046 good thinking 👍 Thanks I will try that next time.

[@624Dudley]

Tidying up old machines is a non-stop undertaking…good thing it’s fun! 👍

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Absolutely!

[@MyLilMule]

The rounded over key is a great idea. Well done.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Greg, it seems to work well. Maybe unorthodox, but hopefully will not give me any trouble in future. Worst case, I can bore and sleeve the pulley and push a normal broach through later (when I own the right one!)

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday Craig, I think it was a good move buying the new plate for the motor mount, fly cutters are good but have there limits, definitely interested in seeing how you do the coolant setup and qctp, this is going to be a nice lathe mate, cheers

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Matty. Yes, I think it will turn out well 🙂

[@kimber1958]

great job upgrading the lathe as well as a very smart video Thank you for sharing your time

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks for watching and commenting Kimber 👍☺️

[@johnsullivan7633]

Oh Craig, loved the commentary I think I’ll need to watch it again to get all the humour. Nice work too!

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thank you John! 🙂 I am pleased that you are enjoying the videos 👍

[@Rubbernecker]

Excellent! I love the reference to Mr. Crispin! That's a great channel.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

I'm a big fan of his. Great and funny guy. 👍 😁

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

G'Day Craig, Nice capacity upgrade, it will be sad to see the old Premo go. Setting up a new to the shop lathe is sure fiddly and time consuming. It's good to show everything, so others know what's involved to do it right. Enjoyed... ATB....Cheers...Dean

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Dean. I've got a lot to do still, and there may well be an other episode or two (spaced out between proper project videos) in the future about this, because I think it's a process that every used-lathe buyer has to go through, so it might be a useful "how not to do it" resource at least. :)

[@LivetoolsNewcastle]

Great job! Glad the cutter held up well 👍

[@CraigsWorkshop]

The cutter worked a treat 👍 thanks again for that.

[@monkeyscat1195]

Nice video. Next time I'm in England, I'm bringing you a 4 flute carbide end mill and a room temp beer.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Ha, thank you. I am actually in Australia though. I assume the promise still holds 😁

[@monkeyscat1195]

@@CraigsWorkshop you're damn right it does!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Just wondering is a "Bees Donger " metric or imperial? I cant find it in my Engineers Black book. 😁

[@CraigsWorkshop]

It depends on the temperature that day 😁

[@BruceBoschek]

Just found your channel and very much enjoyed your commentary and your careful attention to detail. I subscribed and am looking forward new content and going back over your previous videos. Thanks very much.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thank you Bruce. I am glad you found the channel. Thanks for watching and commenting. I look forward to sharing more videos 👍

[@Machine_NZ]

Hi Craig, Good to see the new lathe coming into use. How's the shop coming along? Regards Kevin

[@CraigsWorkshop]

G'day Kevin. It's going well thanks. Slow progress, but definitely progress. I've sold the shaper now, and I've decided to focus on the mill and getting the small and large lathe sorted. T&CG is in the back burner for a bit. There's a workshop tour video done not too long ago if you want to have a look round. Cheers mate, Craig

[@geoffs7232]

Look forward to the planned upgrades 👍

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Geoff, me too 👍

[@smallshoptalk589]

WOW, That is a nice way of finding the hole centers. 5:00 mark. I need to remember that.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks 👍

[@warrenwise8127]

that keyway with the mill cutter is a cracker of and idea. you, are an ideas man

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Waz, Kind words :)

[@artisanmakes]

10:39 I'm gonna have to check the machinery's handbook for this measurement standard

[@CraigsWorkshop]

I thought I would leave that in, in case it generated a smile or two. 🙂

[@D._Eath]

Oᴏʜ , Tᴀɪᴡᴀɴᴇsᴇ ; ɴɪᴄᴇ !

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks for watching and thanks for the comments 👍

[@Lwimmermastermetalart]

I have the same exact lathe. Not really a bad machine although I’d really love a Clausing Colchester. What you did to upgrade the electrics is great. Sadly my shop doesn’t allow the room to get back there unless I rig the whole machine forward. Not impossible just too much time to take away from my huge lists of projects 😂 enjoyed the video. One idea though on your centering device for tapping in the mill. Maybe you’d consider making it a spring loaded point. That way you don’t need to keep bumping down the quill. Just a suggestion. Love to see the finished machine 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@paularbon1093]

Thanks for the video Craig. Using new steel for the motor plate was a good idea.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Paul. I did want to use the salvaged stuff, but I think the pits were 1-2mm deep on both sides, and I didn't want the plate to be too thin. The new piece of plate solved that for me, and actually didn't cost much more than the scrap bit I bought (I must have overpaid for the scrap!)

[@ozyrob1]

Nice skills Craig, great work and story.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Rob 👍🍻

[@edsmachine93]

Going to be a nice lathe with all of the upgrades. I really like the VFD upgrade. Thanks for sharing. Take care, EM.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Ed, appreciate the comment! I have a few more upgrades in the pipeline 👍 will be videos about those soon.

[@smallshoptalk589]

That was a lot of work, Good for you. Cheers.

[@peterpocock9062]

Hi Craig, I've only just come across your posts, and glad I have. Great presentation, thankyou. I love your hole centring trick, I do mine a bit different but your way is better! Also I had a "Duh" moment when I saw you put the key in the Allen head screw. Need I say more😊

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Peter. I learn tons from other people's videos, and that's one of the best things about this community, is we can share our own ideas and get the fast track to other people's ideas. Makes workshop life that much more efficient and fun :-) Thanks for subscribing, see you in the next video. Cheers, Craig

[@hedning003]

a nice,high quality Swedish Asea-motor, good choice there , Nice work so far

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks. Yes, it should be good when I am finished.

[@MASI_forging]

Nice work. Great to see your post. 🙂🙂

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks MASI 🙂👍

[@howder1951]

Nice video Craig and an excellent tidy up and mod. Nice treatment to that keyway, I have often thought of it, but never had a chance to try it out , but it would be great on smaller applications. Enjoyed, cheers!

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks howder, I am pleased it worked as well as it did. Cheers, Craig

[@paulwomack5866]

When marking the motor bolt holes (where you didn't have good access to use a punch); I find fixing normal masking tape (painter's tape in the USA) on the target area helps. It can be written on with pen or pencil, and also provides a soft uniform surface which can be marked easily with a scribe or hand held punch.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thank you Paul. Masking tape would have been a definitely improvement. I'll keep that in mind. I also just bought one of the pica pens, which robrenz recommends. They are a marker with a very slim tip which can reach into narrow featues and get right up against the edge of bolt holes and similar. So I have a few tricks up my sleeve now for next time this crops up. Thanks again - good to have you watching and posting good ideas. Cheers, Craig

[@craigspicer4296]

Great U tube channel. I have my new old lathe that i am cleaning up and getting into service. Yes i be interest in the content

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Craig. I have another lathe related project in the works. If I can complete it in time it will be out at the end of this week 👍

[@Unrivaledanime]

Nice work great to see the videos

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thank you Paul

[@russelldold4827]

That's a handy size machine, Craig. If memory serves, you still have an Emco for excursions into the watchmaking side of life.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

I have! That one has taken a backseat while we moved house and has never been picked up again. But the recent sale of the premo will make both the replacement lathes even more important, so watch this space for some Emco action in future too.

[@trits4227]

Hi Craig, long time no see , Nice job, nice lathe, looking forward to the futher installments. Stay well Mike ( from cornwall)

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thank you Mike. Glad you enjoyed! Hope you are keeping well 👍 See you in the next vid 🙂

[@ophirb25]

Good luck with the new old lathe

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thank you 👍 I still have a bunch of things to check and clean on the lathe, and some new items have arrived which will bring a bit more modernisation and functionality to the lathe. These will hopefully be shown in a future video! Thanks, Craig

[@ophirb25]

@@CraigsWorkshop Does it have a gearbox for threading or the tedious gear change?

[@CraigsWorkshop]

The new one has a very comprehensive quick change gearbox, and a lot is possible without changing any change gears. But it does have a few extra gears to do the full selection of metric and imperial. It will be very convenient to use for threading 👍

[@ophirb25]

@@CraigsWorkshop Definitely more pleasant. I'm working to convert my lathe to work with a very simple gearbox for the few threads I commonly use, got tired of the gears swapping...🤔🤔🤔

[@CraigsWorkshop]

That is a good idea.. might be a good idea to have a look at Tom Make Here's home made quick change gearbox.

[@bostedtap8399]

Looks a nice lathe? , good technique on motor hole centres, is the fitted motor ore powerful than the original? Thanks for sharing.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks John, it'll be a great lathe for me. It was a good price (Funds are limited), and the things on it that needed a bit of TLC or replacement, are things I can do here with the gear/skills I have. The new motor is 3hp, which I think will be ideal. This style of lathe came with a 2-3hp motor depending on where you buy it from. They have been making the same style of Taiwanese lathe for a few decades now, under lots of brand names. Thanks for your comment. Cheers, Craig

[@lolcec81]

Комментарий в поддержку канала и ролика, а также труда мастера.

[@carlkulyk366]

The Premo looks like a much higher quality lathe than the 14x40 lathe.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

You may be right, but the Taiwanese lathe is great in its own right. In some ways I am trading some build quality and machine condition for more capacity and modern features, and fully metric. I should mention the other lathe I have too: Emco Maximat V10P which although is the lightest of the three, is the most precise - and is in pretty pristine condition. I've got the 14x40 for bigger jobs which need coolant, and a bit more horsepower, and the Emco for delicate/precise jobs that need some finesse. The Premo was reasonably good at both, but having the two dedicated lathes in future, will give me the best of both worlds. Don't forget I've had the Premo for several years and it's considerably better now than when I bought it. I will bring the 14x40 up to scratch too. Thanks for watching.

[@HM-Projects]

@@CraigsWorkshop Emco, that's pretty hard to come by here especially in pristine condition. Much envy :P

[@CraigsWorkshop]

@@HM-Projects it was entirely mislisted and misrepresented in the advert. It was sold as "German Lathe". Well for a start it is Austrian! 😂 And the pics showed it in a very dirty neglected condition, but amazingly under all the dirt and grime, it was very unworn and will be a great lathe. Screws etc are basically as new - basically no backlash - and not because it has been adjusted out.. This lathe will get some motor and VFD and DRO attention too in a future video, but one thing at a time. 👍

[@HM-Projects]

@@CraigsWorkshop if you're in Victoria and ever think about selling the emco let me know 😍

[@CraigsWorkshop]

@@HM-Projects thanks HM. I will keep that in mind. Although there is a queue forming!

[@paulwomack5866]

IIRC Keith Rucker has done a "make and fit a gib strip" video, but I think it relied pretty heavily on a surface grinder

[@CraigsWorkshop]

I am recently hand-scraper enabled in my workshop (I invested in a sandvik carbide scraper, which will definitely outperform the home made converted-file I had before). I think that's the gold standard for gib fitting. So I could mill to get it close, and finish with scraping. The gib is really working fine as is, as a bearing surface. It's just missing the slot to control its adjustment properly. So, I am also considering tig-brazing a piece of steel onto the end of the existing gib, and then shaping it, so that it does not rub on any of the important surfaces.

[@andytroo]

is the foot break "fail safe" - you want it to be normally shorted so that if eg: a wire breaks, you don't have a broken break.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

You are right, I do want it to be failsafe. But, with the VFD I have, it is a circuit closing, that initiates E stop. So I have to work within its limitations. If I were designing the VFD, I would definitely incorporate a fail safe, at least as a programmable option. Thanks for the comment.

[@infinityvideoprod]

4:44 in future, just measure the diameter of the hole (or slot), zero the verniers, then measure the distance between the outer edges of the holes (or slots) and that will be the centre distance.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Yes, that is one step simpler. A few people pointed this out to me after I posted. Nice trick, thanks 👍

[@majesticdragonfly]

Hi Craig, first lathe buyer here, I've tried to search for this lathe after watching your video but could not find it, do you suppose you could give me a link to buying it? i also wanted to say, if money was not an object, what lathe would you buy if you would intend to use it for decades onwards?

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks for your message. First up, I would definitely get a smaller lathe like a myford, emco or South bend/hercus as a first lathe if I had not used any other lathe before. This is my fourth or fifth lathe and I started machining in about 2017. But this model is very close to an AL1000D I believe, from Machinery House here in Australia. If I were looking for a new lathe which would last for decades, and with money being no object, probably a big Colchester! I expect that will always be a bit too expensive for me though, so a new AL1000D would still be a very good option, and would last for decades. Any lathe will last, as long as you look after it properly. A lot of lathe choice comes down to what size job you intend to do, and how many convenience features you want. Thanks, Craig

[@nigelpearson2976]

🙂 "I've got a growing body of data predicting that, nothing that I make, will fit anything else that I make."

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Someone was listening carefully! 😂

[@paulwomack5866]

The great Robert Wearing (a woodworking author and teacher) said "If you can't make it accurate, make it adjustable"

[@CraigsWorkshop]

I think that was the quote I was looking for! I had the concept nailed down, but had lost the words at the time of recording. Thanks.

[@smallshoptalk589]

I have some time to catch some more videos. This is going to be nice. I also watch InheritanceMaching.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Inheritance machining is a big inspiration for me. That channel became my favourite channel almost as soon as I found it, and also, it encouraged me to up my game with video making quality and frequency. 👍

[@gangleweed]

Sigh....I went down this path a bit some years back, but my old Colchester Bantam lathe of 1930 vintage that I bought in 1980 from UK kept eying me and after 40 years I still want to keep it.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Ian. I know the feeling! I really like the Premo, but it has been sold just needs delivering to its new home. I think it will be gone within a week or two. Sad times! If you have room and funds for both, why not keep both?

[@paulwomack5866]

At which point did the cost of the inserts you used up trying to reclaim the scrap exceed the cost of the new material? 🙂

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Quickly! I am repeatedly learning that I am a sucker for falling into the false-economy trap. I keep thinking I want to use reclaimed materials, then I accidentally go through a screw in a piece of reclaimed timber, and all savings are lost (in the time spent swapping and then sharpening thicknesser blades, for example). And it's the same with using pieces of reclaimed steel that either have holes in them that need welding closed, or braces welded on that need cutting off, or deep rust, or paint that needs stripping. It quickly becomes a loss, particularly if you want a video-worthy end-result. But I am slow-of-brain so I keep playing the game. 🙂 I will learn eventually.

[@joell439]

👍👍😎👍👍. Fantastic update

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Cheers Joel 👍🙂

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Looks like it is about ready for chip making. 👍

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Tom - yes it's now ready to cut steel. The final shot shows it cutting a bit of 4140 bar. But - I need to relearn speeds and feeds on this machine! It also needs a bit more work in various areas, but that will be in a future episode (will need at least one more episode). Thanks for watching, chat soon. Craig

[@PhilsProjects]

Nice video. if you want a quicker "mathless" way to find c/c measurements, measure the slot/hole, zero the caliper, measure the outside measurements ( slot to slot) and Voila.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Hi Phil. Yes, somehow my brain lost track of that simpler method somewhere along the line. 😂 I will remember that for next time. Thank you 👍

[@MIck1-10]

Good old mr crispin.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

He's brilliant.

[@billbaggins]

Mexican standoffs 🤣🤣 Good to see you've finally got the big lathe running👍 Now you have a legitimate excuse to avoid all those other little jobs like walls and insulation 😁🍺

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Lol. You've seen right through my plan. Thanks Bill 👍👍🍻

[@graedonmunro1793]

nice vid

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Thanks Graedon. There's another video on this lathe coming out very soon. Cheers!

[@pawekowalski7469]

👍👍💪

[@robotech]

What's the reputation of Taiwanese machines over there? I feel like they're kind of "new" over here, but quickly gaining a good reputation, thanks to Taiwanese Precision Matthews machines being used by KZbin machinist channels.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

They seem to be the go-to default for professional machinists that want a new, good-value lathe. There is a definite quality difference between the cheaper imports and the Taiwanese. Our main machinery dealer differentiates the Taiwanese models with a Taiwanese flag on the listing, and this country of origin Is treated as a selling point. 👍

[@D._Eath]

@10:34 " ... slightly over the nominal size , but only by about half a bee's donger . " Aʜ . Tʜᴇ ᴘʀᴏᴘᴇʀ ᴜɴɪᴛ ᴏғ ᴘʀᴇᴄɪsɪᴏɴ ᴅɪᴍᴇɴsɪᴏɴs .

[@CraigsWorkshop]

😁

[@dominicspencer1496]

Half a bees donger

[@CraigsWorkshop]

😁