Overlanding For Beginners: Suspension & Lift Kits - DON'T GET THIS WRONG & become an Off-road fail

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Overlanding For Beginners: Suspension & Lift Kits - THE THING OVERLANDERS GET WRONG THE MOST - Easy way to become an Off-Road Fail.
Suspension lifts are confusing… so many options, so many bad options and so many components to understand. This video is a crash course to get you the details you need to make more informed decisions.
Overlanding for Beginners is a series we will be adding additional videos to in the future to help get overlanders out on the road without wasting a lot of money. The series goal is to help overlanders build purpose-built vehicles that match the terrain and challenges they intend to take on.
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[@OutdoorAuto]

IF THIS WAS HELPFUL CHECKOUT OUR OTHER VIDEO ON WHEELS & TIRES - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i17CpWuGbc6Kf9U

[@MrHighdro21]

Question do I really need to regear my 07 tacoma 4x4 with 285/75/16? I dont crawl maybe minor if anything and moderate off-roading and trails nothing extreme.?

[@OutdoorAuto]

@@MrHighdro21 So basically that is a 33" tire... I don't think you NEED to re-gear for 33's. That's not to say that you wouldn't see some slight performance improvements but you are definitely below the threshold of having to re-gear. I'm in the same spot on the Tundra... obviously it has a bigger engine and is made for towing... so it pushes 35's fine... I could re-gear... but i wont until I go to 37's. Your cut off is probably if you ever went any bigger at all...

[@MrHighdro21]

Cool cool. Thanks for the input. Been hearing alot online about trucks struggling and more stress on tranny ect so ive stayed at 265 which looks skimpy but work good

[@westonwallace3715]

I just wanted to say I was wanting to lift of 4th gen 4runner and was looking for info everywhere for days and your video gave me the chunk of knowledge I needed to start looking at what I really need!!!! Your videos are awesome definitely recommending

[@AhmadAlAjeel]

How many HP do you need to overland or offroad? Is it HP or torque? Is 300 hp enough?

[@jasondewey6555]

best overlanding comment EVER: "spend the money on going places...good food..with good people.". Thanks so much for the honesty and real-world approach. Subscribed!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks... that is the goal... spend good time, with good people.

[@T25de]

You don’t need to buy all the gear in the magazine to go camping.

[@djw5415]

Who here wants to throw up when they see a 6in lifted truck with massive 22in deep dish wheels?

[@OutdoorAuto]

The reality is they are paying good money to play a different game... if that’s what makes you happy go for it... but that is a form over function game and I don’t play that game.

[@originalname9999]

@@OutdoorAuto I wish more people would have that mindset. I shake my head when I see it, sometimes laugh a little, but hey, it makes them happy. Their money, their enjoyment. I will never talk down on someone on the internet that did some crazy suspension and tire combo that doesn't suit my lifestyle. If someone wants to slam a 1st gen 4runner and they did it right, hell yeah. If someone wants to lift a Tacoma to the sky with 1 inch of rubber on the rims, if it's done right, hell yeah. Someone does a huge spacer lift... I might say something encouraging them to do it right.

[@OutdoorAuto]

@@originalname9999 Yeah, I agree. To each their own. With this channel I am just trying to use it to save people money... no matter how much money you have for a build... there are pitfalls to avoid that waste time and money. It really can be so confusing now days... so many options and of course all of them say they are good and somewhere there will be a forum post that says its amazing... I guess maybe I am dumb enough to think that bring the conversation back to the fundamentals will hopefully help people.

[@kyleolin3566]

I used to talk down those trucks, then I thought, at least that truck is being taken care of so I can have a clean platform to build off of in a few years. I’m all about function over form so I don’t fully understand, but whatever floats their boat.

[@davek6854]

I call them roller skate trucks. my son and i always get a laugh out of them.

[@FranciscoHugoGarcia]

Been there done that. This guy is honest and everything on point.

[@OutdoorAuto]

wow... thanks. I am trying to be honest and helpful. Hopefully people get that.

[@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618]

Finally someone who actually knows what they're talking about when it comes to overland builds

[@Bassist10288]

I’ve watched 100 overland videos and this was the most useful 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@OutdoorAuto]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ScaleofTwo]

From someone who’s just learning about all this, this was very helpful. Thanks!

[@PS987654321PS]

This guy is the best on KZbin for a great understanding of overlanding stuff.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Appreciate the support... I am working on a bunch of new informative overland videos right now... should se them coming out over the next couple weeks.

[@b2ridez279]

Knowing progressive (fox, king) vs digressive (icon) suspension setup is a good thing to understand for peoples application as well.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Great point... I may have to do a short video just on this.

[@treverroll3075]

I like your cadence and you’re easy to listen to, I’d cut the music out honestly. Thanks for the info

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@ryanm2084]

I don't mind the music. It's at a good volume and I honestly didn't notice and I was focused on what you were saying. Any louder and it wouldn't work

[@coleshepherd8435]

Really appreciate this video. I’ve been doing some research on overlanding builds for my Tacoma for a little while, and this was easily the most helpful video I’ve come across. Explained everything throughly and gives great insight on what direction(s) people can take.

[@davemc8598]

Probably one of the most useful videos I’ve watched since getting my truck.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Awesome, glad it was helpful. We have a whole run of new videos coming… starting this week.

[@beardedtacoma]

I'm building an overland Tacoma and this video is so awesome. Thanks

[@OutdoorAuto]

Good luck with your build.

[@TANKYPOO]

Easily one of the best videos I’ve come across. Informative, educational, honest. Love it. Thank you.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for watching... so glad it was helpful.

[@FZ1YamaSeca]

Thanks for the great content. I am new to overlanding and off-roading and learning a lot from just watching a few of your videos. Good luck on the channel and keep it coming!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks... Just dropped a new video on Overlanding storage... hopefully that one is helpful too.

[@nonope1774]

I've found that the airbags that fit inside the coil springs in the back of an SUV can be very helpful for overlanding. They stablize the load well, and don't hinder travel much at all if run at medium psi.

[@dpeagles]

Nathan. Using your videos I upgraded my 2017 Tundra to the Bilstein 6112s up front 2 1/2" lift, 5100s in the rear with 1" rear lift. It rides and drives better than before if you ask me. I was able to sell the old coils and shocks to recoup some money. You videos gave me the knowledge to move forward.

[@nickmcdvtt]

Dude, you share some really solid insight in this video. It’s no nonsense and these are points that most people don’t think about. You are absolutely right. People get enamored with overbuilt trucks and this video politely points out what is superfluous and is just super practical. I love it.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks… hey next time you’re in Idaho we should meet up.

[@nickmcdvtt]

@@OutdoorAuto Absolutely, that would be awesome.

[@brohammer]

Also keep in mind when you get 35s you may not be able to keep the stock spare tire location and have to take up space or spend a ton on a new mount location.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Oh Yes... so true. This is why having a plan is so key.

[@z3lot]

You can but you need to cut or hammer the tabs for 35s.

[@yotaman492]

So true, the Rigd UltraSwing will be one of my next purchases for my 4Runner.

[@M.WinklerProductions]

this is a great video. I'm doing a small lift on my subaru just to get to my Tree stand for deer season.

[@spartan8390]

THANK YOU! I am in my planning phase and have been looking for rebuildable shocks. I'm all for "buy once, cry once" when it comes to vehicles. My plan is a "prepared build" instead of the "over-kill build." I've seen too many people build a "SEMA truck," break the bank in the process, and destroy their vehicle. Something I have yet to hear anyone talk about is experience in off-roading. I think the lack of knowing what to do off-road is responsible for 90% of the bad things that happen.

[@OutdoorAuto]

You hit on a lot of important points here. I think Seat time, behind your own rig is a HUGE deal... understanding what it can do easily and what will be a strain... How to use power and momentum appropriately... like you said... a lot comes down to experience not upgrades.

[@Warri0rs5tate0fmind]

This was so helpful, thank you! New to this game!!

[@JustinKing01]

This video cleared up a lot and now I know which direction to go with my 07 FJ cruiser, thanks!

[@OutdoorAuto]

So glad it was helpful - BTW If you have ever had questions on offroad/overland Jacks... check out the new video that just went live.

[@GW-km1iy]

Really great job bro on your video... I've set up several similar trucks including my current and previous Toyota Tundra. You make all the points that I also try to covey to my friends that want to lift or set up a overland truck. I did want to add something if nobody else had on the air bag thing which I always add and am a big fan. Instead of connecting the bottom portion of the bag as per design to the axle which in fact limits your articulation what I do is use cradles. That way u get the advantages of bags without limits of travel. Daystar makes the ones I've used. Anyway just wanted add to the outstanding information you have provided for others 👍

[@kingdomoverlanding]

Some really great points!! Just filmed on this topic as well this weekend haha I liked the "Make sure your Upgrades , Upgrades your vehicle "

[@OutdoorAuto]

Seems obvious... but you get what I’m saying. Ppl keep doing awful things to these trucks.

[@SuperReviews4you]

For my Tacoma I did a month of research into the best lift kit for my needs. At 1st I wanted the whole fox/kings 3 inch lift race setup and spend about 5,000. After looking at the forums and what im really going to be doing with the vehicle I went with a more modest suspension lift kit that I can use my stock UCAs on and spend more money on things I really needed to complete the build. I went with the Bilstein 6112, 5160 suspension setup for about 1100, rooftop tent 1000, wheels 1000, tires 1200, leaf springs 600, bed rooftop tent rack 400. I spent about what I would have on my whole build over what just that lift kit would have cost me.

[@OutdoorAuto]

This is a really good write up... You could actually do a great video/walk around that would be great for a lot of peoples needs... Overkill suspension for your needs vs a complete overland build. Pretty cool.

[@andreibucur710]

I would love to see finished pics of your build. Yours sounds exactly like what I would love to have. I'd love to be able to go offroad and explore, but I'm not about to drop $$$ for a crazy rock crawler. I just want to take my family in the great outdoors without banging up my daily driver. Do you have an instagram account people can follow?

[@grubstep]

What leaf springs did you end up going with?

[@shadipdip.1988]

Good info. Straight to the point. I have to reframe my overland truc. I am going with a 7 inch lift and a sas. So I don't have to worry about CV.I am going with a leaf spring setup so I can move it around the yard

[@BigDThatsMe]

Great video. Someone who understands and gets it. Something else people don't get is payload capacity. I have seen a lot of "overlanders" that by the time they add racks, tents, rotopax, passengers, supplies and all that jazz, they are either maxed out, or way over. You have to think about what you are doing, and then do it right. Remember, just because a vehicle does it, doesn't mean it's doing it right. Subscribed.

[@OutdoorAuto]

I talk a lot about weight... as a guy that can use just about any gear I want, I still find myself trying to slim down my kit and simplify as much as possible to keep the weight down... it isn't any fun to Wheel a Heavy truck/Overloaded truck. Payload is huge...

[@michaelpellegrino3220]

This was super informative. Just got a 20 Tacoma 4wd DCLB that I want to set up for truck camping off-grid. 3" total lift is what I was thinking and you absolutely confirmed this. OME shocks was also on my radar with an AAL. Nice to hear from an expert that I'm on the right track. Appreciate it!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Glad it was helpful!

[@chrisj9849]

Thanks for the tips! I have a 3" lift with the stock suspension on my Tacoma, and I've been impressed w what it can do.

[@GrmpaJA]

How’d you manage a 3” lift with stock suspension? Spacers ? I recently bought my first 4x Tacoma. So I’m curious 🧐

[@scoobysid04]

@@GrmpaJAyou can lift them no problem, but once you get on a trail you may have problems.

[@seanstenberg1559]

Thank you for the simple, but necessary facts! And your no BS advice. I’m glad I came across your channel earlier than later. Again, Thank You!

[@redelbe1]

Hello good Sir! I'll be honest here: I'm almost in tears when finished watching your video; For years and years I've been watching and reading about suspension for the build that my wife and I wish to start building and in all videos, all I've found was the same approach "oh! look what I got for my truck a 3" dick and will hang from here to here, oh! look at this brand new set up of balls for my truck" just dumb and macho show off people bragging about expensive gear but without having a clue that they could hurt the public that is in need of good and down to earth info to do a really good build without spending all of their savings or getting into big numbers in the credit cards. There's no enough word to thank you, for your honest-down2earth and concise opinion about what we actually need and look for in order to get the actual parts to do a "perfect" build without overkilling the build. Have safe travels and always good days to enjoy the outdoors, you have earned a new subscriber, looking forward to more vids! THANK YOU!

[@scoobysid04]

😂 you sound like a hater 😂

[@___asd159gh43]

1. have a plan 2. pick a better suspension system than factory 3. avoid spacers and leveling kits 4. keep your lift as low as you need for the terrain you explore 5. follow the rules (dont cut corners)

[@xc_4x4]

Number 4 has me really intrigued….I’ve been seriously thinking this over and common sense tells me why you would say that but do you mind explaining the reasoning behind it?

[@___asd159gh43]

@xc_niner615 those are what the video covers in that order

[@PureCountryof91]

This is actually why all I did to my ranger was 31" tires. I have decent clearance even now that it's v8 swapped

[@jakemarlow8998]

You are a treasure, as your information is solid! Thanks so much for uploading your videos!

[@michaelroberts4560]

Great video! Cemented my choice to go with the BP51 system and Dakar springs on my new 2021Tundra. Keep up the good work!

[@OutdoorAuto]

I hope you can finds some in stock somewhere... I feel like everything on earth is backordered right now.

[@johnnumbat9782]

Hey Nathan - a well presented and informed real life tutorial - glad you discovered some great outback trekking gear designed here in Australia. The Canning Stock route is my next trip once we get to Covid free travel - After many years of running nine Subarus I have acquired a stock 2010 Hilux Diesel auto with plans to setup for outback touring - thanks for excellent advice - John in South Australia.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Good luck with the Hilux build... I wish we had good diesel options over here.

[@T25de]

Australia 🇦🇺 “once you’re free” I certainly hope you get there. AU is fucking batshit crazy with covid lockdown.

[@johnnumbat9782]

@@T25de yes it’s crazy here where states are blocking others at the borders assuming that zero Covid cases is the only option for freedom 😒

[@T25de]

@@johnnumbat9782 Such a bummer! It’s like a crazy nightmare and B movie plot come to life I hope Aussie people take their country back from the insane asylum.

[@cheeseburgerwithnocheese5348]

If you lift your 4WD and it has solid axles you only increase the approach angle the only what to increase your clearance (diff to ground) is by increasing the wheel/tire size.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Tires will always be the "truest" form of lift for sure.

[@onefastcyclist]

A fine video for independent front/solid axel rear overland trucks. And YES - OME makes fine components - I have their kit on my XJ. Solid axel front suspensions offer both more lift options and far better articulation which is why they are preferred by the rock crawling crowd. However, the advantages can realized even on moderate 4x4 trails.

[@larrybraga3471]

Great video, honest and straight forward. Helped me with decisions on my truck that would be a waste of money when it comes to lifts and such; spend it on something meaningful and worthwhile like he said...at least in my case...thankyou

[@cpwned]

I love the honesty of this video. Thanks!!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks you for watching and the feedback... an honest look at all this stuff is definitely what we are going for. More videos coming soon.

[@alexorcas1]

Great video! I wish I had seen this before I upgraded my suspension in September. haha. I wouldn't have upgraded my UCA's, but would have gone for the remote reservoir ICON shocks instead of the regular coilovers. Live and learn I guess! Keep up the great content dude! Maybe see you on the trails someday.

[@gordonwinn1973]

How do you feel about your icon choice? I have been looking at the icon stage 2 and keep going back and forth with different options. Thank you!

[@alexorcas1]

@@gordonwinn1973 they have done extremely well over the last 25k miles. Definitely more of a firm sports car feel on the road and far better stability off-road. Rides higher in the travel in slow off-road stuff which helps prevent hitting rocks from the suspension compressing too much. I really liked them. Only advice would be to check your clearances on the rear lower shock mounts at full droop as well as the anti-sway bar ends at full lock and droop.

[@ronblitz]

Really helpful! Thanks loads! Looking for a decent suspension lift for my Rav4 TRD 2021.

[@mmagbee]

Well put. Makes sense as I knew nothing about choosing suspension. Not looking forward to pricing it out lol. Thanks again for the great video.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Yeah... that is the issue with DO it right or not at all... usually there is a bit of a jump to actually make it worth it.

[@Queensizemusic]

Even the base OME Kit is fantastic.

[@OutdoorAuto]

My buddy has run their base kits for years on his FJ... and it has been to Panama and back mostly on Dirt roads... I really do like their stuff.

[@jpow12]

HAHAHA holy shit I died laughing on the opening indecision warning

[@shaunremington1809]

Don’t normally comment. I feel compelled to say I appreciate common sense reasoning for budgeting a kit designed for usage. I’ve stayed patient to do my due diligence for budgeting quality product per usage. This video spelled a lot of for myself as a beginner and I thank you for that.

[@jameschoi608]

Awesome stuff man. Really appreciate this video and your channel.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Wow thanks James... I appreciate the support.

[@madcratebuilder]

Great advice, I would like to see a video on the pro's and con's of larger tires, ground clearance vs weight and drive train stress.

[@OutdoorAuto]

In the works

[@SOLDADITO76]

The only thing I regret about starting my build, is now being to broke to finish my build. So what a lot of people do when they get lifted springs, they don’t think of the location of the spring shackles. The shackle hanger needs to be relocated to carry weight. It’s pronounced eem-you.

[@OutdoorAuto]

If I ever do a video with Old Man EMU stuff again I will get it right. Good luck with your build.

[@robertgiannamore3724]

Great info. Been working on my build. Thank you.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks... good luck with you build.

[@Worthrhetime]

The most common sense, well articulated, informative, Helpful vid I’ve ever seen. Thank you

[@davidschlarp1606]

I don't understand why Toyota doesn't just have that clearance from the factory. They literally push Tacoma's and Tundra's as off-road vehicles but you can't put bigger tires on without doing a CMC

[@GolfdrillsNet2015]

Let's add a decent AT tire too!

[@shughes911]

Man great info! I see guys and girls in there new trucks with 20inch wheels and a 5 inch lift? It just looks silly and has no purpose other that looks! But if that what you are into go for it!

[@OutdoorAuto]

If people love making mall crawlers, by all means go for it if you have the money.... but for sure don't make the mistake in thinking a mall crawler is optimized for Overlanding...

[@dustinbovey7865]

Absolutely LOVE your channel brother! Do informative, straightforward, and honest. I’m wanting to do a HD build with a Ram 2500 here down the road, but also VERY new to all of this lol.

[@jtchristiank1]

I don't even "overland" and I found this super interesting and smart. Thanks.

[@sam_s_]

The lack of ground clearance improvement with a diff drop is the same as with a solid axle.

[@OutdoorAuto]

True... I guess that is why at least for overlander style lifts... the truest lift is going to be your tires.

[@brandonshriver6448]

@@OutdoorAuto coming from the Jeep world (2 “XJ” models) I always looked at the only purpose of a lift was fitting bigger tires. Granted I did technical but relatively mild offroad trails, nothing at high speed, so suspension wasn’t a huge deal. Love the video, definitely on-point regarding keeping things as low as possible, something a lot of people seem to miss. I haven’t done much with my Ram yet, but with the Jeeps it was pretty remarkable what they would do bone-stock. I only got stuck twice, and both were due to insufficient tire.

[@littlewilly9272]

Yeah! The improved approach, break over and departure angles are pointless when you do the big lifts with the differential drop!🙄😂🤣 It’s all about being able to get your front differential over an obstacle, only to get the rear diff caught up right. Real trucks have solid axles. I have yet to see a lifted vehicle that can use a bigger tire without a 6”+ lift without bumper and fender mods. I totally agree with tucking the biggest tire with the least lift you can.

[@Millirawk]

Psa for any tundra owners out there, 2.5" front lift with bilstien 6112 and fit 35s no trimming needed or BMC at all. Toyo OC AT3 285/75R18

[@OutdoorAuto]

On the truck walk around I cover that 35's fit on Tundras without chopping.... for some reason there is a lot of confusion about this out there.

[@Millirawk]

@@OutdoorAuto ah didn't catch that. But there definitely is a lot of conflicting info on this out there!

[@tommyadkisn]

I have a 2007 tundra crewmax with bilstein 5100 on the top setting giving me a little over 2" lift...is there any guide out there telling me max tire size? all the tire shops tell me 33" yet many say 34 or even 35" how do I figure this out before purchase?? Also, if I increase offset can I increase the width tire allowed? Thanks a ton for your help, striking out to baja on January one and want to get it right the first time!

[@Interbeing_CDN]

Thank you for your informative vlog, I recently purchased a used TRD Pro Fox suspension to replace the OEM shocks on my TRD Off-Road (28k, $550). Many people laughed at me and told me I would regret buying it as it was non adjustable and a poor system to do a lift. I spent a lot of time researching and was honest with what type of driving I do and felt that the suspension would be a great upgrade as most of my off road is unmaintained ranch roads, forestry trails, and mild two tracks and I really didn't feel I needed a big lift. I have skids and sliders on 265/75 16's with high clearance bumpers. I am planning on installing a AAD, which will give me a back a little rake, and work with the extra weight I carry when loaded with gear. So far I felt I made a good decision, and after listening to this vlog, I even feel better about my decision.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Sounds like a great setup... sliders and skids aren't utilized enough in my opinion... Yes I could lift my truck 3 more inches and I would rarely hit them... but that is what they are there for... I slide around on my rock sliders ALL the time... they do the job... protect the truck and help keep my nice on low to the ground.

[@pcarr8618]

Hi Nathan, Boy am I happy I found your youtube channel and more specifically “Overlanding For Beginners”!! I could really use your pragmatic touch on an area I am stuck on. Lost everything in 2010/2011 economy and been going hard for 11 years to start successful business but no vacation for 11 years. Huge outdoor person, have our Pup to get out with, former military, competitor, gained 40 lbs last 5 years, however. Life is short and need and desire to get back out. Hoping you can provide some input with my Totally stock 2011 Sequoia Platinum. Started off with I need tires ASAP. Then been looking at Top tents, RVs etc etc etc in this area if off road, builds, tons of research and stumbled on Overlanding and going down bunny hole after bunny hole then came across your channel and your journey with your Tundra. “Overlanding For Beginners”. Makes total sense (Start with a purpose - Function over looks etc) as all your super cool and informative videos. Part I am stuck on is So while looking at suspension there are or may be limitations with this Platnium Modle given the air shocks in the back. Here is where I could use your professioanl input. No plans at the moment doing any thing super crazy / rock crawling / or desert racing etc.. but like to focus on high quaility equipment that is highly functionable and perhaps step it up a notch in case I do get in a situation I can rely on beefier gear. Looks like 33” or 35” A/T tires are way to go. My rims are 20”. Is it better to replace and use an 18” rim or fine to use the 20” rims? Any advise on that plus 2-3” lift? I saw your vid re keeping center of gravity low. So I am like you build for a purpose but just want to make sure I can get 33 or 35 tires in wheel well Suggestions on tires/brand and size? Currently identified Toyo 33 M/T 33x12.5R20 Then the Suspension: Stuck on what to consider due to the stock rear air shocks Thought? You’re a big Old man emu - so I am totally open! And consideration of taking on some of the extra outdoor gear/weight. Front area: Suggestion for front with winch/recovery. Saw your front on the Tundra, but thoughts for 2011 Sequoia? Then the Back. Suggestion for gate to hold jerry cans and large spare for Sequoia? Top Rack? Extended / larger fuel tank? Then where to buy all this stuff? All in all, first step is I really need to get tires soon, so like to plan with that immediately and get the proper ones mounted and if I need to do the front lets do it! I was planning to do something years ago and purchased some out door gear tested out and a solar Inergy 1100 W Generator. So I have some 100 W panels like to consider having one or two on roof. Stats: 100% Stock 2011 Sequoia Platnium 5.7 V8 20” Stock Rims Console in middle row. Rear load-leveling suspension and adaptive shocks 20 gal standard fuel tank Then the final question is: Is this the proper SUV to build out? Thank you kindly Nathan. Respectfully,

[@ericblaine1316]

Did what I did... paid for TRD off road package then dumped it.. 😂 Lesson learned.

[@ImSneakyy]

just got mine and looking into suspension lift kits. now realizing the same thing. at least we got TRD on our seats and badges lol

[@ericblaine1316]

@@ImSneakyy right 😂

[@seand1989]

I love driving a low, long wheelbase, stable rig. Climbing the steepest climbs, and side hilling like a champ. But the horrible breakover angle will make some obstacles impassable, and is the price you pay for having a low stable rig. Knowing what you are driving, picking the right lines, skid plates, or full belly pan and momentum all help.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Agree with all of this... I have had to get through obstacles with just momentum before... that is definitely why armor matters... If you are going to wheel hard in a truck this big I would definitely get the gas skid... that seems to always be the area that gets hung up... and like you said... pick your lines and have a good spotter.

[@OVRLND_E]

All really helpful advice, took notes Thanks Bud

[@OutdoorAuto]

No problem. Good luck and get out there

[@luzrenteria610]

This helped so much. Just got my Tacoma and I feel like there’s so much info out here but no one really explains why 😂 thinking about going with king 2.5 with adjusters

[@mattjames8320]

I’d have to disagree, a lot of times body lifts are the easiest way to fit bigger tires. And you should definitely consider it

[@OutdoorAuto]

I’m always up for ppl disagreeing... one thing with body lifts is most overlanders are running newer cars (-/+ 20 years)... so a body lift generally equals a lot of wiring work if it’s done right... the labor on newer cars, to do a body lift usually more than pays for a better suspension lift.

[@Will-fr5du]

@@OutdoorAuto ahhh, didnt know that, makes sense now. Cause i see a lot of body lifts on older vehicles like mine and never stopped to think why people dont do it to new cars.

[@mcal9320]

Of course, if you want to drive around with a uber suspension system and never use it. Cool, you do you boo. Second cool and all that.

[@wyoverland]

Wonderful information. Thank you and keep up the videos!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks, will do!

[@darranjacobsen4366]

This was one of the most informative videos I have seen on KZbin. TY

[@OutdoorAuto]

If you have questions feel free to leave a comment and we will try and get back to you. More build component videos coming soon... make sure to subscribe to get notified when they come out.

[@robertmcghee1463]

Any Advise on a 2010 tahoe suspension. Looking for a more leveled look, but want to be able to run the “jeep trails” on the farm, and still be able to tow the boat, and enjoy a comfortable drive on road where I spend most of my time. Any advise helps

[@xXJeepsXx]

Great videos man! I was wondering, what size tires do you run?

[@OutdoorAuto]

@@xXJeepsXx I run 35's on the Tundra. I have a full vehicle walk through video here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKWtZmmnq6iZorc

[@OutdoorAuto]

@@robertmcghee1463 I have to say I have never worked with a Tahoe... the main thing to avoid would be the non-suspension leveling solutions. those make your ride trash. You will also need to verfy anything you add will play nice with Towing... I would hit the forums... every truck, SUV generally has a forum out there and see what is popular... then I would verify with the Manufacturer that it fits your full set of needs.

[@xXJeepsXx]

@@OutdoorAuto how do you feel about 37s in the tundra? Most people say it’s to much work, some say it’s not hard at all. Like to get your input. I’m trying to decide how to move forward with on my tundra. Set up for 35” or plan out for 37”(depending on cost) like to here

[@LiDARs]

Gonna start with new wheels, rack and clam.

[@OutdoorAuto]

That is great... I think one of the main points of this video is that people shouldn't rush into suspension. A lot of times what the truck came with will work just fine. Down the road once you get miles and trips with the Family under your belt you may change your mind... but first order of business is always just getting out there and having fun.

[@corycasarez77]

Good information man. I have a fantastic Toytec and Dakar system on my Tacoma that I spent a little lore money than I needed because I essentially did it twice. Thank you for the great info and people who are starting in This should really watch it. The one gripe I have with all this stuff we do is people getting caught up in the “industry standard” and getting talked into buying things they don’t need because a sales person tell them they need a $2,000 winch or else they aren’t a real off roader or overlander.... maybe a future discussion you bring up??? Anyways thanks man.

[@OutdoorAuto]

@@corycasarez77 I totally agree... even though a lot of our videos are about gear... The actual point of the channel is for people to just get out, save some money... spend the money doing things with people you love... Have a plan.. and get only what you need... nothing else.

[@josephisom4746]

Nathan Mueller I appreciate this attitude in this community. I purchased a 4Runner about a year ago with grand plans for high end suspension and huge tires and aftermarket front locker and... the list goes on. After getting out and using it stock, I’m shocked at how capable this thing is with a decent set of tires! I echo this attitude all the time! Get out and use your vehicle as it is right now. Find it’s limits. Only upgrade the things that are actually limiting you on the trail.

[@mikehuffman8208]

Great video ... this is the same thought process I went through for my Tundra & ended up with Bilstein 6112/5160 along with shackles and airbags on cradles in the rear, so the rear axle is freed up. Running a GFC camper & Decked system ... haven't felt the need to upgrade the leaf pack (yet).

[@ourjourneyoverland1271]

Did the same with my Tundra. I'm running a 4wheel camper so I went with custom springs. It was well worth it.

[@Jomon]

Wish this video was around when I was picking my suspension. Good info for anyone getting in to this hobby!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Sorry I wasn't faster 😞 ... hopefully you ended up with something that is working for you.

[@Jomon]

@@OutdoorAuto OME springs and bilstein shocks. Not bad, but I wish I had gotten the BP-51s, even before I saw your video!

[@nunyabiz627]

This "overlanding" the new yuppie trend to be a "man"?

[@OutdoorAuto]

I guess it depends on why and how you do it.

[@KurNorock]

I agree that you shouldn't go crazy with lift height. However there is something to be said for having a higher breakover angle, especially on a long 4 door pickup truck. Even if you can stuff 35in or 37in tires under your 3in lift, it won't do you any good if you get high centered or hung up on a cross member. And while i also agree that you should try to avoid dropping the front diff, that is much more desirable that having a low breakover angle. You should be putting your tires on the high points in the trail rather than trying to clear them between the tires.

[@fasgamboa]

Nice, I always found funny and sketchy when I saw those trucks extra lifted but with that big metal bar hanging low 😅

[@srgaza1961]

These shocks absorbers like BP51 are so adjustable , that you need to adjust in every single type of terrain or driving condition, and to adjust them you first has to drive in those condittions and take note of the settings in order to change them when you need it, then go with a wrench to adjust them at the four corners and in the case of the rear axle, lying under the car to make the settings. I think is better a compromise suspension until the makers design a system controled at the cockpit. On the other hand, all your thougts and advices are useful. Congrats....

[@LuisRodriguez-bd1ej]

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

[@BeboyOnThePad]

This is exceptionally valuable information! I wish I'd know some of this years ago.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Glad it was helpful!

[@explorerdadsocal8047]

Most informative video i have yet to come across….i want my taco overlanding and people are telling me to do all these crazy things to it that im sure ill regret in the future…. Thank you sir!!!

[@OutdoorAuto]

We run stock Tacomas all the time in 100's of miles in Baja... it is a great and capable platform.

[@toddshook1765]

Just found video. Thank you for explaining things and thinking the practical way to outfit a rig. I am new to the over-landing fun and this helps process what is important.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Awesome, glad it was helpful. Most my videos are geared towards people getting started… thanks for watching.

[@davemasbutter266]

Great video & this is why I got a Ford Raptor. Requires almost zero modifications

[@OutdoorAuto]

Raptors are pretty set straight off the lot for sure.

[@jxmai7687]

i don't have a 4X4 but still watch this, good man.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for watching I really appreciate it

[@jdc1978]

This is the best suspension tutorial I’ve seen. Great job.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for watching, I really appreciate the feedback. BTW If you have ever had questions on offroad/overland Jacks... check out the new video that just went live.

[@JeffC1]

Great advice. Keep these vids coming!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Will do. Tires and wheels next... ppl need to get gearing and offsets right.

[@Marcus-hw5il]

I am néw to all this and trying to grasp it all. This video really helped me to understand the concepts of different types of lifts and the why’s behind them. Thanks for sharing your knowledge good sir.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Glad it was helpful!

[@samfisher5302]

Great video! Honest and to the point. Thanks you 🙏 Subbed.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for the feedback, it is much appreciated.

[@yotaman492]

Great video! Have to do your research and have a plan. Took me a couple months of my own research and talking to off road shops in the off-road/overlanding community before deciding on what I wanted on my '19 4Runner. Couldn't be happier with the rig no. That was phase 1, now on to the rest of the build. Radflo 2" Front coilovers Icon Delta Tubular UCAs Radflo 2" rear shocks Toytec 650 lb rear springs 4.88 Yukon gears front/rear diffs Method 701s Toyo OC AT3 285/75R17 LFD skid plates Suspension components sourced from Apex Overland & gears from East Coast Gear Supply. Great companies!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Good luck with the build. I do love 4runners. For the other in here looking through the comments do you mind sharing what you decided to go with... might help someone out?

[@Glenn.Cooper]

Yea you have some of the best overlanding build advice that I've come across - many thanks!!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thank you 🙏 hopefully it is helping someone out there with a build.

[@Glenn.Cooper]

@@OutdoorAuto Helping me for sure!!

[@ryanm2084]

I want to upgrade my suspension and I'm glad I found this video...im not a mechanic and I definitely learned some stuff after watching this

[@OutdoorAuto]

Awesome, Glad it was helpful.

[@NextAdventureATV]

Great video! Very informational.

[@SoulRoadFlorida]

Thank You. Super helpful for me with my 16 Tundra.

[@boomdoggy]

Very well presented and articulated!!!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks 🙏

[@overlandingislife4392]

Great advice. Much appreciated.

[@DK-jh8fc]

I just bought my new 2020 TRD Tacoma, called Anthony at Toy Tec explained to him my tent, rack, gear ect, they walked me through all the options and set me up perfectly, exactly how you explained it, get a plan FIRST and figure out what you are actually going to be doing. Awesome video

[@OutdoorAuto]

Awesome... Toytec is awesome. They have no idea who I am but I send them so much business just because they are good people and don't seem to try and oversell people.

[@officialyasir]

D K68 what did you end up going with?

[@DK-jh8fc]

@@officialyasir I went with the Boss 2.0 coil overs with new SPC upper control arms, in the rear i went with the aluma IFP shocks and the add a leaf. It was about 2k all together.

[@killahjeep]

I went Dobinson's MRA... awesome setup...

[@ebenvisser5943]

Just a great video and great practical advice!

[@parttimemoto1533]

Great videos man! How do you only have 5k subscribers?? I just subscribed!! Keep up the great videos and info.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for the Sub... This is actually a very new channel. Just getting going over here but I really appreciate the support.

[@johnanderson7485]

This is great advice. I just lifted my 3rd gen 4runner 3". I replaced stabilizer bar links, diff drop, springs, coils, rebooted axels etc. A lot of stuff needed to be accommodated for even with a 3" lift. Upper control arms seemed to be good though!

[@OutdoorAuto]

The 5th Gens seem to be a little easier to work with up to 2.5 - 3". Everyone starts to understand pretty quick why going any higher than that ends up being pretty inva$ive.

[@johnanderson7485]

@@OutdoorAuto Yeah for sure, I totally agree with the true lift is in the tires. Anything over 3" would be outrageously expensive, especially for my age and provide little to no benefit except for perhaps visually.

[@nicholask7347]

This is an awesome video with so much useful information. I work for the NPS and USFS. My off roading is essentially just forest roads and old mining roads. Have a 2021 TRD OR with the Bilstein shocks. Aftervwatching this is sounds as though I can just add a leaf for this upcoming season, or did I not follow correctly? Guessing I can hit up one of these companies to figure out what it is I need or is there a more definitive site I should look at?

[@deanflet973]

Thanks for the advice new subscriber can't wait to hear what coming next on your video contents.👊😎👍

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for watching