$3,000 HOA Fine, Wait Until They See This...

[@OutdoorswithErik]

They tried ruining Christmas as well - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZO1nGafhL5gnMU

[@LETSGOBRANDONFJB]

Lololololol that's hilarious!!!

[@brim89]

The HOA is fake. It’s a Karen in your neighborhood that is used to being the president of the HOA and thinks she is still one. Contact the city and ask about HOAs in your neighborhood. Then contact the mortgage company and tell them what’s going on and then the last thing is to contact your lawyer and give him all your information and then have them send a letter to C&D order and then also issue a harassment report

[@tvas8551]

You were angry in the first video, why didn't you follow the suggestion and take legal action? Make the clowns suffer.

[@donnamarietomasello9396]

Lol. Love what u did to those trees. Lol. Those ppl sending u these ridiculous letters need to get a life...there is no HOA.

[@jesslavold1041]

Might need to get a surveyor out in market property and then put up a barbed wire fence

[@jasonhatfield4747]

I would NEVER buy a house attached to an HOA of any kind. Screw that!

[@leecox1513]

Good! Then you can park your sixteen-wheel Peterbilt truck in your driveway. The neighbors will love it.

[@jhutch1470]

@@leecox1513 What happened to the other two wheels?

[@tonegeerkins491]

Here in Aussie, its Local Councils that are the problem, there is no "opt out" with them!

[@AAAskeet]

@@leecox1513 Freedom

[@Ironhorse360DEG]

@@leecox1513 i'd disable your car in a way you'd need it towed.

[@jdgrupp]

If the HOA isn’t listed in your deed, you don’t live in an HOA. You would have received a copy of the rules and had to have received and signed paperwork when you purchased the property. You need to hire a lawyer to end the harassment. Tell them to pound sand.

[@restinwalken]

Yep

[@travisthompson1679]

Yes. This. Apparently this has become a thing where HOAs try to bully people who aren't actually a part of the HOA. When you buy a house, apartment, condo, etc that is part of an HOA you will have to sign paperwork and be given a copy of the rules and regulations. If you weren't then you are not part of the HOA. An easy test is to force them to produce paperwork proving you are a member. They obviously won't be able to if you aren't part of the HOA.

[@JessicaSantos-hl4dl]

Agreed

[@ellaroberts1812]

Can someone be playing a prank?, jealousy because he has success on social media!?

[@jimmywhitlow2012]

@@ellaroberts1812 or it's just for views, and the jokes on us.

[@jasonardley4188]

It’s actually pretty easy to fix this one! They sent you an email stating they were going to harass you with petty fines until you move out due to the unwanted attention your channel brings! That statement alone is enough to take them to court and win, basically they’ve screwed themselves!

[@cartabontrace61]

Yes, pretty much you have written prove of harrassment and intent of future harrassment. You got a solid case for a law suit and discrimination/racism/bullying etc.

[@aliceevans1803]

Put a camera at the front you will see who delivers the mail

[@rosemaryus-ct6151]

@@aliceevans1803 the mailman?

[@GoToPhx]

my thought exactly

[@temujinkhan6326]

@@cartabontrace61 People like you are the problems in this world... bringing up racism when there is none.

[@jeannetheisen1139]

That clearly sounds like an individual, not not an actual HOA. Omg

[@iheartcryptoverse2857]

His yard needs pink flamingos

[@suannwakefield8457]

Yep just bully and cohorts!!

[@danpags7023]

They sent you an email telling you they were going to harass you. Sounds like a court case to me.

[@TheCenteroftheUniverse]

This may be a case of "having a battle of wits with an unarmed (organization) man ..."

[@tomwilliams8675]

Get some Round Up water balloon bombs and toss them all over Margaret's lawn. Then complain about her dead grass to the HOA.

[@danpags7023]

@tomwilliams8675 Hey, I like that idea!

[@mikegentry9082]

​@@tomwilliams8675I would like to be your neighbor. We could make our neighborhood great again! Seriously though though, the water balloon idea is pure gold. Have a great day sir!

[@larry648]

Computer harassment is a crime I’m many states.

[@randycline1385]

As others have said, if there was nothing in your mortgage paperwork, you are not in an HOA and you don't need to worry about anything this person says to you. If it keeps up, sue them for harrassment.

[@mikejackson1410]

Agree, county will have record concerning HOA on your property. They should also have a copy of the bylaws that stated how property is to be maintained. If you can confirm no HOA, it’s lawsuit time!!! I hate HOA’s

[@rachelcrawford1977]

@@SciFiSecrets someone is screwing with him

[@littlemissy8356]

Wrong....... You can bet there is paperwork in the property paperwork. Time for him to grow up and quit acting like a child.

[@truthministries77]

@@littlemissy8356 I see you ate pro Nazi America

[@ruthgar9753]

It's not necessarily in the mortgage paperwork itself, but there should have been a HOA declaration in the closing, or HOA paperwork signed within XX amount of days after the closing (the amount of days depends on what town/county/state your in), and the deed will reflect if the property is in an HOA or not.

[@debbiputman3482]

I just came across this video. The thing that caught my eye first was the first note that stated they would keep harassing you until you moved due to your presence on YT. That is an admission that this is all for harassment purposes. Have your attorney send a Cease and Desist letter to the sender, then file harassment charges if it continues!

[@Jonathan.D]

These emails are not from an HOA. Most HOA's have to send a written warning letter and it has to be signed. Find the nearest person who fits the description of a Karen and that will be the one. It could be a man but normally it's a stay-at-home mom. There have been a few studies that show most complaints made in HOA neighborhoods are made by women that have nothing else to do. This all changes if the HOA is in a Florida retirement neighborhood. Then it's the old men whose wives are sick of them sitting around the house all day watching the Game Show Network.

[@patrickhartman6818]

I would file the harassment charges anyways

[@michellemarie8268]

Anyone who knows IT can easily figure out who this is coming from. Maybe they are interested in his property and want him to put it up for sale so they can buy property

[@puttervids472]

Bingo. This is easily won in court.

[@CPTTango30]

@@Jonathan.D As far as I know you are correct. When I ran an HOA we had to do everything through the USPS any notifications or packets or letters all were mailed out. My current HOA does nothing through email all regular mail.

[@stevenekdahl7124]

As a real estate agent for 30 years I tell everyone who is in the market for a new home, never, never, never, never buy a house with an HOA your life will be a living hell.

[@otisspunkmeyer9339]

Nobody’s that now have a little power

[@eaglevision993]

@@CaptainJimNoss He´s probably crying all the way to the bank.

[@sixtyfiveford]

HOA= you intentionally signed all the rights to your property away. If you're a busy body neighbor and can't keep you nose in your own business an HOA is for you. If you could care less what your neighbors do, never buy an HOA property.

[@jimster1111]

im pretty sure any neighborhood at any time can form an HOA. you dont necessarily have to buy into one to get stuck with one.

[@1voluntaryist]

@@jimster1111 Any neighborhood/society can vote for rulers to rule not just them but you. The collectivist mentality infects humanity worldwide. It pits all against all, creating a dog-eat-dog world. It denies rights, choice. This is referred to by the authoritarians as "social justice". It's a perversion of the concept of justice and rights. The more you try to placate the collectivists by caving in to their threats, the more they attack. These psychopathic perverts are dangerous. Giving in will not protect you. It only encourages them.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

I didn’t sign anything my friend

[@sixtyfiveford]

@@OutdoorswithErik It's in your mortgage documents when you buy a home in an HOA community.

[@stumpfarm3714]

Restrictive covenants on the subdivision???????

[@TheRasticuss]

HOAs should be illegal. Paying a 3rd party to tell you how to live on your property is just crazy.

[@sierrafowler7598]

I agree. Just no HOA

[@teamofone1219]

Not all hoa’s are bad, most exist to help keep the community clean and safe. If you feel that an hoa is being unfair and abusing their power then report them.

[@nicolehastings4879]

Totally agree

[@optimusprimer4392]

@@teamofone1219 good luck

[@lonewolftech]

@@teamofone1219 no all hoas are bad!

[@lynnechurch2482]

Sorry am late to the party. Don't forget, friend, if it's not stated in the hoa bylaws, YOU CAN DIVORCE YOUR HOA!!! If nothing about a hoa is in your mortage paperwork, ignore them! Also you can sue them for harassment. If I were you, I'd sit down with a real estate lawyer and have a nice long chat with them! Hoping you're all over covid & doing great. Prayers & Blessings from WI 🤗😇🙏💙

[@CygnusTX]

" YOU CAN DIVORCE YOUR HOA!!! If nothing about a hoa is in your mortage paperwork, ignore them!" No and no. The first is not a thing. The second is great advice for getting sued.

[@jaedencarter1199]

Naaaagh....burn them out...

[@athonyvaloni7091]

@@CygnusTX unless they can provide proof that he joined the HOA then yes he can ignore them ....

[@robertcarpenter421]

This is harassment

[@Laura-it2zb]

The letters in and of themselves are harassment.

[@Redlined997_C2S]

Was never part of one, but attended HOA meetings as a representative for clients. That pretty much ensured my never being associated with a HOA.

[@bethkinzinger5256]

Put a letter into the county clerk office claiming Grandfather clause and that you have no interest in being involved in the current HOA

[@calvingreene90]

If you are not part of the HOA send a letter to every house in the HOA informing them that they will be sued if the HOA doesn't stop with the fraud and harrassment.

[@suannwakefield8457]

Yep dish back what they are giving out

[@curtissmith335]

for starters, if the HOA is not included in the deed/title, tell them to kick rocks. Second, file harassments charges as you have written proof they intend to harass you until you move.

[@shelldonsilva561]

Yup. communication of a threat and proof of harassment via email.

[@Rick-if5zb]

What you are saying is true, but there is something else that needs to be addressed. The threat of making these people have no choice but to sell out and leave. That is considered "Terroristic Threats" which is against the law.

[@jc1111]

Sounds like you have a neighbor who's harassing you. If those letters were from an HOA they would be written on the HOA's letterhead, containing a return address and these letters would be signed.

[@porkchop10]

Exactly lol....these videos are obviously BS.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

@WebCity Films I didn't give them anything, it's on the channel

[@OutdoorswithErik]

@@porkchop10 BS? wow

[@someguy7629]

@@porkchop10 Ok Karen, want to speak his manager too?

[@kellyvcraig]

Not necessarily. I've had more than one idiot think they could use private resources for public business. Think of all the foolish cops and other agents who use their private cell phones to conduct public business. In WAshington, that moves them into the public realm and, at the least, to where a court can do what's called an in camera review of the phone contents.

[@AlexaLake7]

I love the fact that you painted the trees ! That's as good as flipping them a finger.

[@MrGrumblier]

I think he painted the dog too.

[@jackcapella2707]

The emails you have alone are grounds for harassment and intimidation as they openly threaten to fine you until you move. That is liable. Secondly, if there is no reference to an HOA in your contract/ mortgage then you are not subject to one.

[@markbardsley5880]

Your right

[@liferider3442]

Harassment maybe , not liable.

[@Bretware904]

Poor education system......yes he or she wouldn't be liable for libel.....

[@peggygriever9450]

Don't forget, "extortion"! 😳

[@deborahartis5969]

All items placed in a US postal box must actually be processed by the US Postal Service. If these notices were put in your mailbox and there is no canceled postage stamp or metered stamp this is a Federal Offense. File a complaint with your Post Master General. Follow the process and let us know what happens.

[@glubgawd7393]

100% this

[@kinggzz]

true, non stamped must be applied to the outside of the box, NOT left inside. it’s illegal for them to open your box.

[@candle86]

@@kinggzz its illegal for them to affix anything to the outside or the pole as well

[@larrycurts710]

First of all, are you even a member of an HOA, and how did that happen? You didn’t mention wether you were or weren’t. These violation letters are not signed. Obviously these COWARDS don’t want you to know who they are, because they don’t want you to retaliate. It’s time you found out the letter writers are. If they are just dropping them in your mail box, it’s time for a surveillance camera. What they are doing amounts to harassment and should be treated as such.

[@leighd3065]

You can call, email, text, send smoke signals or send a carrier pidgeon to the Post Master general and he still wont do a damn thing

[@phyllisarrington7436]

My dad always said, "never clean the creek banks". He said the vegetation helps control flooding, it gives shade to the fish ,salamanders, crayfish and anything else living in the water. Vegetation also provides habitat for birds, rabbits, and other wild animals. As a kid playing on a creek bank was hours and hours of pure fun. I'm 67 now and still smile at the memories.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

That iis great feedback

[@brentfarvors192]

@@OutdoorswithErik Here is a "possible" solution; Call your local county office, and inquire about a "bee friendly habitat"...Get some wild flower seeds, and plant them, with a "bee habitat" sign or similar...

[@markmiller897]

Your dad was correct. It's called a riparian zone. Absolutely essential to the health of the land and animals.

[@sonianugent6429]

You can also check to see if there are any endangered species in the area that come to that creek. If so, then clean the sides of the creek could put them in jeopardy

[@Wassyr]

@@OutdoorswithErik Erik, whoever is contacting you is doing so without legal advice, threats of finds written in the format you have be sent is not the norm.. for a start why are they addressing by first name?

[@buryware]

You have a busy-body neighbor, like i had. Called the police on me twice, and fire dept. Finally, she got fined!

[@SuzetteKath]

We in the one I lived in had two Ms Snoops. They would peer thru the windows of those units that had ground floors. As well as open garages. Even the vehicles parked there got looked into. I got one of them mad one time. I called her dog an 'eagle bait'.

[@InDebt8]

You, as a homeowner in a HOA, have the right to review financial records of the HOA. Ask them for the records and tell them they are going to be reviewed. Make them scared.

[@williammortensen1889]

Not if there aren't any association fees.

[@jdowning39]

As a homeowner in a hoa, he isn't technically a homeowner, so he can basically go f himself and pay up and maybe sell the place to another idiot just as dumb to buy a house in a hoa

[@Joeljr110]

@@williammortensen1889 Fines would counts as Fees.

[@bubbleslovebird4974]

He's not in the HOA

[@majstealth]

@@bubbleslovebird4974 so then why care about them in the first place?

[@MoonOverHomelessness]

I'd retain an attorney before I'd send a dime to those crooks. Sounds like a scam to me. If no info is stated in your contracts, property deed/zoning desvription... it could be a group of idiots that moved into the area and decided to create that crap on their own, without any legitimate legality. In that case, YOU would have a lawsuit that could send THEM packing up and moving out.

[@OMEGATECH]

Good advice, I would lawyer up as well just in case!

[@jtc1947]

@ Teresa....Excellent advice about the attorney!

[@kennethmiller2333]

Should be part of his closing. If there's an HOA, the closing attorney should have uncovered it during the title search. If it's not disclosed, there's a good chance there isn't one that's registered with the city.

[@npcwill283]

A scam they made it clear they would make his hell hard until it was financially wise to relocate ! That is a threat !

[@docwobbles]

Must be nice to be able to afford a lawyer!

[@joeymerrell8585]

They sent a email stating they have the intentions of making your life difficult until it is financially beneficial for you to move. Anything they do after that is harassment and illegal. Get an attorney and let them handle it.

[@airdrop1670]

This might be a case under the Civil Rico Act , threats and the letter proves it . The fines under the act are quit impressive :)

[@ghreyy1]

Get get an attorney and sue them, they are harassing you.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

I guarantee my attorney would eat theirs alive. I would end up owning those people😂

[@johnnydoe66]

If it's not in your original contract, nor have you signed with the hoa, and you're not even paying dues, then they can pound sand. File a restraining order against them for harassment.

[@kathywebb6606]

If you’re not paying dues to the HOA, you ain’t in one, therefore aren’t subject to their “rules.” You would have had an HOA clause when you bought the property.

[@marshachamberlain2968]

Exactly.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

I didn't sign anything

[@kathywebb6606]

@@OutdoorswithErik Then ignore everything they send you. It’s fraudulent!

[@jamesdoxtater8574]

I enjoy watchen your stuff But ...... ur in the country.. There is no HOA ur 15 min down the road from me... Come on.... Smh

[@jamesdoxtater8574]

@@fredted1611 there is no HOA where we live at. Only in subdivisions and he does not live in a subdivision I live 15 minutes away from him , but he has great entertainment so it's his story.

[@DCD762]

Dude you can take them to court with that message. That is a open and deliberate threat of harassment on paper ( can't believe they are that dumb ) declaring that they will continuously harass you until you move out. That is more than enough proof of bad faith and intent to commit a crime in any country / state in the planet. You can literally wipe out that entire HOA with that

[@77Avadon77]

You're dumb if you believe any of this.

[@krystalstarrett6760]

Ok! That is what I'm talking about. Smart gye to help stop busy bodies.

[@brianbarber5401]

@D Smyth from an email.

[@TJ-ve8sv]

@D Smyth That doesn't mean anything. You can have paperwork sent to you via email, and I know you know this but you're just trying to be provocative.

[@bill_4615]

Aren't they just saying they will find any / all violations? That isn't harassment.

[@dkbridges4675]

That type of harassment is exactly why I refuse to buy property in a hoa. No way is someone going to tell me what I can or cannot do with my own property.

[@kbanghart]

I like my HOA. Not all are "bad".

[@billycarpenter4740]

All property owners live under the governing rules .

[@tw8464]

Exactly. "HOA" is un-American.

[@tw8464]

"HOA" is the work of Satan.

[@Inmyopinion987]

HOAs are not a government entity

[@josephlewis7443]

No way in hell I would ever buy property that had any connection with a Home Owners Association.

[@SuzetteKath]

HoAs WILL try to boss those living near one. This includes other farms. Where the owners found their farm under a lien placed there by an HoA as a form of a landgrab. Those HoAs don't care that you are not part of one. They WILL go on a power trip to force folks not in their HoAs to conform to that HoA's 'standards'. This includes trying to force farmers to get rid of their livelihood. They have poisoned the farmer's dogs. Towed vehicles off the land. etc..... If you live outside of one and paint your house not one of 'their colours'. They will try to make you pay fines.

[@virginia5]

Lived in one once, never again.

[@adrienhasell2038]

You need to put up perimeter cameras to see who is coming on your property and then call the police and have them trespassed…so they will get arrested the next time they step on your property

[@PJTYLER]

Excellent advice

[@sammybubba176]

oh my word. they put into writing that they were going to harass/fine you until you decide to move. they have shown their hand, and now are legally in deep water...some form of conspiracy to harm.

[@1776mikew]

He should sue the H.o.a.

[@JDAfrica]

Rights to move peacefully, right to privacy. Right to freedom. They seem to be overstepping their functions. I’d hit them with a protection order, and prevent them from getting anywhere near the property. Then hit them with trespassing and intimidation and harassment.

[@MrBoarhogone]

You have a case for harassment

[@nicolehastings4879]

Definitely save all writings

[@MrWolfSnack]

"we will do as we please in those woods" - that sounds like a threat.

[@nortoro1]

It’s difficult to believe that this massive property is part of an HOA

[@bradc32]

not to mention creepy....

[@billycarpenter4740]

Our HOA is appx 1,000 single family homes, broken up into sub-HOA's of apx. 200 properties each. YES, we have 2 sets of HOA rules, and dues to pay. We bought into this arrangement, most try to follow the agreed to rules, always some who want to contest the rules. I've been on our Board of Directors for 15 years now serving in each BOD officer position.

[@devinschaar4499]

@@billycarpenter4740 So you're a fucking rodent? Good to know.

[@bertgummer8125]

@@billycarpenter4740my condolences

[@pompeymik]

​@@billycarpenter4740 it's all a bit pathetic how you poke your noses where they have no right to be poked

[@SaltStorm007]

Ok....that bush paint is HILARIOUS! Love to see their face when they see them green all of the sudden😂

[@garywelch4984]

When they state their intent for harassment and the knowledge of them purposely harassing you, they stand to lose a large sum of money if you sue them

[@stivi739]

That's straight out harrassment

[@sheilapurvis6467]

That is what I thought. They intend to get you to move out. That has to be against the law.

[@kennethmiller2333]

@@sheilapurvis6467 Depending on the jurisdiction, it may not be. However, as a civil matter, it is very likely a tort.

[@Pokers4all]

You have 2 clear options. #1 Get a very good attorney go fire back at them so hard they will be too busy to mess with you. #2 use the money you would have spent for an attorney to bribe or become the president of the HOA. This is the easiest option if you can swallow ur pride and realize it’s a small price to pay.

[@brianvandy4002]

​@@Pokers4all Or, if they are harassing you, how many other people in the HOA are they harassing. You may be able to get enough people to sign up to get the HOA disbanded.

[@longrider50]

Sue them for harrassment. I can't imagine having that much property & having to worry about an HOA. There should be a copy of the HOA rules/regs available for you to review where all of these so-called violations are spelled out in writing. I will never live in a community that has an HOA no matter how nice it may be.

[@scotty2666]

Let them send you a bill, then get a lawyer and sue them for harassment! You didn’t sign a contract to be in an HOA

[@lornahardin4563]

This is exactly right. My friend has gone thru this and just plain told them where to go. No more harassment.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

I'm not paying anything

[@samuelnelsen8872]

@@OutdoorswithErik get a copy of their rules and play their game. Then learn how to write an affidavit and impose financial hardship on the HOA and instigators, then have it arbitrated at a place of your choosing. Good luck

[@bethdumont9020]

@@samuelnelsen8872 in the absence of said HOA - which other neighbours have confirmed for Erik - that's difficult to do. This is ONE neighbour masquerading as a HOA for reasons of their own. Law enforcement CAN subpoena the details of the email address the threatening, harassing emails were sent from from the relevant internet service provider. That's how you'll find that neighbour. Whether or not these emails are related to the trespassing going on in the wooded parts of the property is another question - they may be or they equally may not be. And the only way to sort that out is to find out who sent the emails. As far as that trespassing is concerned is their a "right of way" or an easement of any kind on that property. It's possible there may well be and the estate agent who sold the property either wasn't aware (yes - a possibility) or was aware but didn't disclose same. If such an easement does exist - there's not much that can be done. If not - & the HOA threats & trespassing are NOT linked - again, I don't know that much can be done sans fencing (which keeps out the wildlife). I have 436 sq m in suburbia and no front fence. And I've had people on my property in the dead of night. I live in a dead end court

[@bethdumont9020]

further to prior And I've had peeps drive all the way down to the end of the road just to do a uturn.

[@SandraS64]

Thankfully we don’t have HOAs in the UK

[@NotJessH]

If you lived in a legitimate HOA, you would have been given a copy of the CC&R’s when you purchased the property. Also, if a person gets a “nasty gram” from the HOA, it’s lists the specific rule that’s being violated. This seems like letters from disgruntled neighbors. As someone who calls out my HOA on their bs, I strongly feel someone is just harassing you and your family and you should contact an attorney ASAP to end this. Sorry you’re dealing with this but at least it’s not legally binding and you can’t be fined because I don’t believe you live in a legitimate HOA .

[@circesoul2218]

The one time we bought a house with a HOA we had to sign separate papers regarding the rules and all that. They can't just force you to join a HOA.

[@patfranks785]

@@circesoul2218 No, but they can refuse to sell you the house.

[@davidmartin457]

They probably want you to move so they can buy your property.

[@UrbanGardeningWithD.A.Hanks14]

Okay, there are a couple of things: First, from what you said, you are not in an HOA. This is someone who is being vindictive; to the point of harassing you. Look up your state's harassment/stalking laws. Here in NC this would certainly qualify, and it's a crime. If so, file a police report, then contact an attorney. They can trace the IP and find out who this is. Once that has been determined, press charges for the harassment and file a civil suit on top of it.

[@TentFever]

It’s someone who wants his property

[@bryan6036]

Good advice!

[@LynchburgGrows]

@@TentFever or he made it all up.

[@diannawilliams6494]

@@LynchburgGrows ^^^^THIS^^^^ Every bit of this crap he posts is made up for likes, view and MONEY from the gullible people out there.

[@clydegibbs1222]

Putting letters in your mailbox is a felony

[@marciabartch185]

YEP!!! Federal offense!!!!

[@kevinstonerock3158]

Unless they’re stamped and if memory serves the stamps have to be canceled by marking a line across them so they can’t be reused.

[@avian1971]

Contact postal inspectors for this issue.

[@lancefales1816]

I actually heard this being enforced on an hoa

[@MINIMAN10000]

@@avian1971 That would actually suck for the HOA lol. Only recently did I learn that not only are all postal offenses automatic federal offenses but the United States Postal Inspection Service is actual the oldest law enforcement agency in the United States.

[@g.nicholson7568]

I think this is his wife's sneaky way of getting him to clean up his own yard for a change.

[@Jutilaje]

When I was looking to buy a house, I found 5 or 6 places that were "perfect" for what I was looking for, but they were in an HOA, so it was a no go. Ended up paying $20k more for a smaller house with less of the stuff I wanted, but at least it wasn't in an HOA, and I don't regret that decision for a second.

[@philipcatuogno2968]

Well so good so far. I wonder what recourse you will have when your neighbor never mows their lawn, keeps an extra car parked on the front lawn, doesn't replace dead trees, uses duct tape to keep broken windows from falling apart....get my drift?

[@stevenwagner9912]

Phillip, enjoy living under the thumb of thugs.

[@richard6440]

@@philipcatuogno2968 For those type of things, you have a town / city council. We do not have HOA's in the uk , as far as i know , but every town , or village has a council. they are nowhere near aggressive as these hoas , because even a council has to follow the law.

[@savannahsmiles1797]

@@richard6440 There are code enforcement police in most areas.

[@triciac1019]

@@philipcatuogno2968 the cities have laws for those kinds of things.

[@grathdragon]

From what I took from this video, there was no agreement to an HOA when you bought the property. And if one formed afterwards and you didn’t sign a binding contract/agreement to be a part of the HOA, their claims to fines can be considered as fraud and harassment. And around the 3:07 mark, you said there is no mention of an HOA. So, unless I am missing something, you are not part of one and you can legally take them to court for trying to defraud you

[@gatesmw50]

grathdragon In October 2020 New Jersey made a law that basically says, ok we cannot make you JOIN an HOA if none existed before. However an HOA by state law CAN NOW make you pay maintenance fees, just the same as an HOA member would.

[@janicesmith8946]

@@gatesmw50 Sounds like you need to replace whoever made that law

[@6StimuL84]

@@gatesmw50 Not without a contract they cannot, because they have no standing.....

[@janhenrik4170]

Lol dude it's not even a real story calm down

[@phoxpharms]

@@gatesmw50 Unconsititutional laws are not binding. Nobody can legally make you pay for something you do not want, that is extortion and illegal. HOAs are illegal.

[@devilsfury1]

NEVER move anywhere that has an HOA. In 95% of the cases, they are run by angry old people who literally look for anything to harass you.

[@CygnusTX]

"In 95% of the cases" Love those internet statistics.

[@islandwills2778]

@@CygnusTX ok your right, more like 99% but lets be honest a couple percentage points dont matter. I have had my experience fighting with an HOA and while I won and forced nearly the entire board to resign its not something I will ever do again. Now i live in a place with almost no bylaws. I dont even need to seek permission to build barns, sheds or other buildings.

[@FakeMoonRocks]

I thought HOA's were a suburban thing. This guy's in a rural area.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Or middle aged jerks with no respect for their elders.

[@philipcatuogno2968]

Wrong.

[@abbottshaull9831]

Sounds like a HOA move in near by, and they are trying to force their rules onto property outside of their HOA.

[@stevenseltzer3589]

If you are not part of a HOA then file a restraining order. And when they continue to harass you then press charges.

[@deborahstark9827]

There is no HOA, but I agree the biggest issue is the harassment. They are watching your family and that is concerning for sure. I would try to trace the email if possible. Love the spray paint!!!😂

[@larryhansenmusic3540]

It is an illegal scam! Take it to a lawyer then law enforcement.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

Frustrating for sure

[@marlenalinne7958]

@@OutdoorswithErik So what are you going to do to stop it? It appears that complaining and whining about it on KZbin isn't working. An attorney could have stopped this by now.

[@malcolmr3]

When we bought our house I had only one thing that I demanded, whatever we buy can’t have an HOA. Also, check your deed, if the HOA isn’t listed then you don’t belong to the HOA and they can’t enforce 💩. I’ve seen where some older houses were surrounded by newer houses that did have an HOA but they refused to sign and join the HOA and there’s was nothing they could do.

[@NancyVoudrie]

Tell them to kiss your grass. Love the spray painting idea. Are you in the HOA. Make them take you to court. You do you.

[@kikipearce]

My mother is a US postal worker and delivers mail in a neighborhood where the HOA nitpicks on everything. She says she literally delivers certified letters from the HOA on a daily basis. I think there should be a petition to end all HOA's in the United States... Some of these HOA people have nothing better to do in their lives but to make yours harder.

[@yungceize]

Don't you think he would of had a certified letter himself if the HOA was really harassing him? Or do you think this random text on his cell phone that he's showing is a totally legit communication from a HOA? 😂🧐

[@mikehorrocks2909]

Hear! Hear!

[@chriscarter9264]

Bunch of Karens

[@toxin911]

@@kevingarvin6819 im with you....i had a looong fuse and had a violent temper. im old now and have managed to keep my temper in check for many many years but this sort of abuse is unacceptable

[@kikipearce]

@@mayshack you understand that not every person has the option to choose if the neighborhood they move into has an HOA or not..... Not everyone can swing their money around.

[@lhaa]

When I lived in Texas,I bought "depressed" properties,fixed them up while living in them,then sold them. I acquired a house in a "fair" neighborhood,meaning to do the same with it. After starting to do repairs,I was hit with all kinds of demands,such as mowing the yard every week,needed or not [sometimes it didn't rain for months]. I planted Bluebonnets,the State flower[illegal to cut] interspersed with the Bermuda grass and let it grow. The HOA threatened to cut the yard and charge me for it. I sent them a copy of State law. I found out that there was no HOA,legally,so I incorporated a legal HOA with several other victims and wrote our own "laws.

[@jockdasher6151]

No one moves into a HOA neighborhood not knowing that it's a HOA. One of the first things that occurs when you purchase a house in a HOA community is they give you a copy of the HOA by-laws, which you can also request in advance. If you can't abide by some of the basic rules and regulations, look elsewhere for a home. I have been on a HOA board and have served as its president. The board members can be as obnoxious as some of the community members. My recommendation? Avoid HOAs altogether. The concept is good. The execution is often bad.

[@gingernotturno5365]

LOL what a great idea painting the bushes......I will never ever move to a house with an HOA

[@spikey2740]

That sounds exactly like a clear case of stalking. Sue the HOA if necessary to find out who is responsible.

[@mlohorn]

and WHEN you find the tattletale,, use your 2nd amendment rights and assault rifle them to the next life!!

[@dangerousd9187]

I agree you should be able to do what you want with the property as long as it's reasonable & if people keep watching you you should be able to shoot them,I had a problem with a family member wanting to control what you watch eat,what friends I could have,I left

[@MidwestBenji]

Take them to court, he literally admitted to trying to extort you out of your property Keep track of your hours and any other expenses and bill them

[@patfranks785]

That was a threat, no doubt.

[@ginnygiannette4630]

not on an official letterhead, no signatures with the title of each person that signed = Malarkey

[@OutdoorswithErik]

Yep, via email

[@liskorea317]

Some jokester is just yanking your chain. You have nothing to worry about. Like Ginny stated above, it’s malarkey!

[@1yabeyabe]

Who is sending the email? Contact information for the HOA?

[@marlenalinne7958]

@@OutdoorswithErik How did they get your email address? If They're sending you emails, you can have an investigator track them through their isp.

[@tedmeigel2084]

HOA 😆. Not an official letter. E mail means nothing. Contact the head of HOA and DEMAND answers. Then find out how has been sending E Mail . Repot them as stalking you and your family.. Then Contact the police and report stalking your family. Once you find out who is doing this..Turn the table on them. But do it through the HOA...

[@scottmurray2961]

I would actually consider making some extremely extremely, extremely loud wind chimes. Especially if you think there's a neighbor very close to you, I would build or design the loudest wind chimes that you've ever seen and HEARD

[@MONI-S_POOKS]

Every time you comply with one of their silly notices you give them a feeling of power to continue to harass you

[@DefectoPerfect0]

You can't fight back. They can literally steal your house and you get nothing.

[@Mael01369]

I agree. Don’t comply.

[@Appalachianasshole41]

Maybe don't buy into an hoa in the first gd place instead of bitching and complaining later. It's almost as if you had a choice of what home to buy and where....

[@G1NZOU]

@@Appalachianasshole41 From his description there's no mention of the HOA in his deed when he bought the house.

[@donotneed2250]

HOA in my opinion is another term for "bully."

[@OKRanchRailroad]

The continued notices from an HOA that your property isn’t in is a violation of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Alleging that you owe money falsely is a Federal crime. If whoever is sending you these notices has any assets, they are risking losing everything by violating Federal law.

[@bernarddroege7022]

So...they have already admitted that they are going to harass you in an effort to make you move. Sounds like a good basis for a lawsuit. Why would a property like yours even be a part of an HOA?

[@franhenderson9176]

HOAs have been known to fine a property owner to the point of losing their ownership to fines. Be careful and look into this matter

[@dix_pack_of_sixie]

They literally told you their intent was to out you...that alone is enough to win in court. Tell them to stop contacting you until they provide a copy of the contract you signed that identifies their jurisdiction.

[@Real_Tim_S]

5th ammendment violation to boot - unlawful taking for the public good (HOA membership's benefit=public) without just compensation. They confessed in writing to acting unconstitutionally.

[@g.eeducation251]

That's right

[@tw8464]

The honest citizens need to organize and lobby the state legislatures to outlaw "HOAs" on detached homes. We need to put a stop to the corrupt lawyers "HOA" gravy train that's part of the corruption and rigged "housing market" making housing unaffordable.

[@IceMan0003]

As you said, there is no HOA listed on your property, even if the neighborhood did start one, you as an existing owner, have to Opt-In

[@OutdoorswithErik]

I would never Opt in

[@TheBeingReal]

If. If the HOA existed, it is legally tied to the property. You cannot opt out. HOA’s are tied to developments by the developer: condos, subdivisions. Someone(s) just unhappy you crossed them. Besides the whole personal safety issue and harassment, beware the Sovereign Citizen tatics of paperwork terrorism filing liens on your property too. Better to get legal advise than potentially creating your own problems trying to fight this solo and having it backfire.

[@IceMan0003]

@@TheBeingReal you can only 'not opt out' if the HOA exists prior to you owning the property. And would be on the deed. I do agree with checking the legal deed at the county building to make.sure no illegal loans were added. But that is good advice for anyone

[@TheBeingReal]

@@IceMan0003 Agreed. I was on an HOA board, you might be surprised how few read the HOA before buying.

[@worleybird15]

I opted out of the POA in my subdivision. It wasn't mandatory to join. Some new residents moved in and attempted to enforce old deed restrictions that hadn't been enforced in years. It went to court and the Judge sided with us.

[@sharyn7454]

Spraying the bushes was an act of genius. You are the man.❤

[@OutdoorswithErik]

LOL

[@stoobydoo74]

Yeah.....F U Margaret!! 😂

[@magneticpulseengine3605]

they do that with turf so why not

[@laineymcd4074]

I was looking for a comment that said this.

[@scobrado]

I've been needing a side hustle, and now I see I gotta get my own HOA racket goin'. Thanks for the tips.

[@faithbrewer6246]

If they are just placing the letters in your mailbox, that is a Federal issue. I love your beautiful green trees.

[@nowhereman7398]

Yes, if they put a letter on his mailbox, that's a federal offence.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

It's email

[@jenandchris6089]

I'm so glad I live in my own farm ..closest neighbors I have are a half.mile away on the other side.of my field..and he rides down on his gator to let me now my pot belly got.out again last night and came.down to eat his cats food lol

[@thomasmoodyjr3393]

Delete your email and create a new one

[@katherinecameron8299]

As a letter carrier I can tell you that no one should touch your mail box but you and your letter carrier. If they put something in your mail box without a stamp turn it into your carrier to send them a bill. Also call the Postal Inspector and turn this in to them to handle. It's a Federal Offense with $10,000 in fine and two years in prison. Try to use one of type trail cams on your mail box to get the proof you need.

[@showmegalusa4521]

Sorry this happened to me. I grew up in a small farm in Missouri. My husband grew up on Long Island NY. We are now located in Tennessee. When we started searching for land to build we purposely determined no less than five acres. We found 12 acres, built clear to the back and NO ONE can see our house. Of course we have no trespassing signs everywhere. Tennessee has a Castle Law. We will defend and we are both veterans. Thankfully all our neighbors have acreages and we all feel the same. We don’t have an HOA and never will.

[@johnathanlewis2049]

Hi Erik (1) If it is an HOA it should have been sent on an official HOA document with the HOA name and address on it with a contact phone number. (2) This alleged Margaret person should also be listed on the document with a contact phone number (3) I find this whole thing extremely suspicious and sketchy to say the least (4) Lastly I think someone who’s watching your channel is part of the trespassers or at least in cahoots with them Be safe my friend God bless much love

[@jandances1687]

The same as they do here in Exeter Devon UK,I feel someone has hacked his phone too..

[@OutdoorswithErik]

We have no HOA info

[@OutdoorswithErik]

Hacked my phone?

[@lovepickingnc9313]

@@OutdoorswithErik yes, it can happen. I saw it on our local news. Our local troubleshooter on news said best way to keep someone from doing it is to restart phone once a week. I have no idea hope or what it does- since I've hit 50's, I've become tech illiterate.

[@paulwinson1137]

HOA told me I couldn't visit my Mom,76 and myself 57, I told him see you in court, never heard from them again

[@jamesho8820]

Absolutely love your approach to "fixing" the dead bushes. I have had my share of run ins with a "busybody" HOA and this is a breath of fresh air!

[@ericjones1289]

I was going to say only paint the side they can see but you did that anyway. Ha ha ha Also could you get a drone to spy on whoever is sending the harrassment messages to turn the tables on them or How about hiding a blue tooth high watt waterproof speaker on your place near their place and play recorded sasquatch calls at them, just after their bedtime see how long they last

[@johnfoltz8183]

Paint fumes fresh Air

[@mlt6322]

There was a case recently in Florida, I believe where some older guy (92 I think) was being harassed by an HOA for petty stuff like that. He started buying community houses at action and the next time they sent him a notice he went to the hearing and made the announcement. I'm now majority share holder and your all fired.

[@mangosmoothie7083]

Another person in Florida was hit with HOA fines because she and her husband parked their police cruisers in their drive way. Not parked on the street or undesignated parking spot, they literally parked their police cruiser in their very own drive way. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@spike3652]

@@mangosmoothie7083 They sent two Police officers fines for parking in there own driveway. As the officers I would of waited for them and started pulling them over for anything I could and fine them.

[@MrWolfSnack]

@@spike3652 Just do search and seizure warrants for petty stuff. Someone paranoid about living next to cops has something to hide.

[@Solitude11-11]

Love this so much! 😄

[@sfcmmacro]

Step one: hire a real estate lawyer to formally research if your property falls into a HOA and if you ever signed an agreement to join the HOA. Step two: assuming you have no legal obligation to an HOA, plainly post no trespassing signs IAW state and local laws so there is no need to issue a trespass warning. Step three: set up a few game trail cameras and Ring/SimplySafe style cameras to document who is trespassing. Step four: next time the HOA issues you a citation, have the local LEO or sheriff issue a trespass citation (not warning). If nobody trespassed but they are issue if the HOA fines, write them a cease and desist letter sent signature delivery. Step five: get a lawyer and bankrupt them in court.

[@brentfarvors192]

Easier than that; Just call the realtor you bought from; They are required to disclose the HOA status at closing...If not part of them; Send a "cease, and desist" letter...

[@ScooterKid659]

Step 0.5 get off you tube! I'm seriously pissed I just watched another one of these videos and then realized I watched this bullcrap before. SMH

[@zaappp1588]

@@brentfarvors192 The issue with that is even if the Realtor or Closing Attorney did not disclose the property being in an HOA, that does not absolve the property owner from adhering to the HOA Declaration of Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions (CC&Rs) if the property is actually in an HOA. All that means is that the homeowners have a legal issue with the Realtor and/or the Closing Attorney. We had a neighbor in our old neighborhood that continued to claim that they never received them and refused to pay the dues which were relatively minor at $200 per year but they continued to let them accrue until they reached over $1800, mainly from monthly late fees. They eventually realized they were fighting a losing battle. The HOA waved about half of the late fees and allowed them to get on a payment plan but they still owed the money.

[@gypwinkler4145]

I like you.

[@brentfarvors192]

@@zaappp1588 Actually, YES it most certainly DOES! Especially if the sale involved a title/mortgage insurance policy. WE HATE YOU, and your "fees"!!!

[@markbivings2505]

Only response should be, “Not part of your HOA. Further harassment will result in harassment suit against entire HOA!”

[@CowboyBillUSA]

This is exactly why I would never subject myself to an HOA for the rest of my natural life.

[@OutdoorswithErik]

I don't blame you brother!

[@mattyice9923]

@@OutdoorswithErik sorry you gotta deal with that nonsense man. That is insaneee

[@caseybass5544]

Worst part is if you listened at the beginning there is no HOA in is contract or listed on his mortgage

[@spontaneousexpress]

@@caseybass5544 In that case, generally speaking, he isn't bound to any HOA rules. That explains why he broke out a can of paint. Honestly, I think some miserable soul is giving him the dickery.

[@hoofington7866]

Exactly what ppl need more regulations Why would anyone ask for more government.....

[@KristaJ73]

I would go to the police. From my experience with HOA you pay monthly to them. If you never signed a contract with one or it wasn’t mentioned in the buying of the property this is illegal. File a report this Margaret is committing a felony.

[@mags3521]

Erik you are not part of a HOA or you would be paying a monthly fee. I'd be more concerned with the harassment & the fact that they are watching your house & family so closely. You're just playing right into their hands by doing everything that they state in those stupid emails. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction, you know they are just sitting back & laughing their dumb asses off.

[@upnorthaleutdirks8713]

Yep just the same as listening to biden to fire you for not taking a shot,unconstitutional. They take your rights, never get it back.

[@georgetaylor2819]

Not All HOA's have a monthly or quarterly or annual bill - you need to read the Associations Rules & Regulations and you need to go personally and chat with a member of the board. Find the name of the association and look it up online and then communicate with them asking for the website where you can learn what the rules are --- also --- while reading these documents, look for information about all the committees. Because it is the committee that either has or does NOT have the ability to issue a financial penalty.

[@alexbay5347]

@@georgetaylor2819 But, first he needs to confirm he does ib fact belong to an HOA. Sounds like he might not. If he does he needs to actually show them all the letters and confirming someone is not trying to speak for them without their consent.

[@christinelutton3215]

Your right ! What happened to the day people minded their own business?

[@deborahartis5969]

My experience with buying and selling homes is that HOA documents MUST BE disclosed during the buying and selling process. The buyer must sign the HOA document stating that they will abide with the rules.

[@ATAATX]

Sounds a lot like malicious harassment to me. Definitely lawyer up, turn over evidence " ie: the threatening email ", and see if the lawyer can bring all this to a screeching halt.

[@branon6565]

My experience with an HOA: I had a nice, clean 1958 Willy's Cj5 when I was livin outside of Anchorage, Alaska...we had an HOA, I didn't really learn what that meant until the day I was checking my oil and coolant in my Jeep's V6 motor....I had lifted the hood, laid it back against the windshield, and then was called inside to take a phone call from my Dad, leaving the hood up...it was almost a 40min call, and I came back out, my hood was down and latched shut, with a lime green sticker stuck on my windshield right in front of the steering wheel...the adhesive that sticker left on the glass took half an hour to scrape off with a razor blade...according to the green sticker, it was against the rules to not only lift the hood of a vehicle without it being in the garage, but it was made worse cuz it was parked on the street, directly in front of my house...I was so pissed off that someone touched my Jeep I couldn't even speak, but after my exwife read the violation to me, not only did I lift the hood, I jacked up all four corners, removed every tire, and set the Jeep down on mismatched jackstands...and left it...overnight...when the Pres of the HOA banged on my front door at 7am the next day, which was a Saturday, I opened my storm door and grabbed him by his throat...now this was in 09, I had just returned stateside from my last deployment to Afghanistan, so I was in no mood for this nonsense and if there hadn't have been a cop there that I didn't initially see, I would've put a hurtin on that liberal piece of s*^+....instead the cop made me let go, it then turned into a big deal with that dude tryin to press charges and have me arrested on the spit, but the cop was an Iraq vet so that dude was outta luck on that....we sold that house and moved 90 days later....I was only 35yrs old then, I'm 47 now, but I don't care, I'd handle it the same way now as I did then....never again will I tolerate an HOA....never....

[@2JobsStillPoorUSA]

Betcha he was a californian

[@david808323]

HOA's are tyrannical bullies.

[@JD-tn5lz]

Your first mistake was thinking Anchorage is Alaska😅 Nope. It is only an hour or so drive from there. Seriously, Anchorage is the nastiest place. Enough of a little slice of the 48 to keep real Alaskans from moving out, but it serves a nice place to store 48ers on their short visit (most 48ers bail out pretty quick, can't handle Alaska) to great Alaska

[@sheldonrigsby3523]

I'm with you brother all the way.

[@claudiocambria]

“Everyone I disagree with is a liberal” Damn dude, cope more lol

[@hardwaylearnt]

Since you are not in an HOA, if they sent you these demands by mail it's a federal felony mail fraud/extortion.

[@Dave-zl2ky]

We started looking for a new home about 12 years ago. Our first words to the realtor were "no HOA".

[@SuzetteKath]

Make sure your realtor does not place you within a couple of blocks from one either.

[@jbdragon3295]

Same! Ya, 12 years ago for myself also.

[@ricklemons2424]

Words of advice: Don't buy in a HOA. Everyone should know this.

[@CorgiDaddy2]

If you had watched the entire video, there was nothing in his paperwork denoting an HOA.

[@chefdeadpool8481]

He didn't buy in, he has one near by trying to extend their reach much like Putin and Ukraine.

[@kirkfeatherstone6944]

I would have a hidden camera placed to watch your. Mailbox, that way you can catch who’s ever placing this HOA crap in your mailbox,which by the way is a Federal Crime, it’s apparent that you’re not in an HOA, and once you find out who’s behind this, you can have them arrested and possibly taken to court for pain and suffering, I personally would ignore everything and keep doing what you do, love all your videos, keep up the great work ❤️

[@OutdoorswithErik]

It's coming via email though. Appreciate your support my friend

[@SaltyNationalist]

@@OutdoorswithErik Hire a "friend" who knows their way around a computer.. Bet they will be able to stop the harrassment pretty damn quick once their IP address comes to light..🤷‍♂️ I could have that done in less than 5 minutes..

[@davidtierney581]

Great idea!

[@SaltyNationalist]

@@davidtierney581 They might think they're anonymous on the internet.. But their ip address will show who they really are..

[@davidstone61]

They are sending emails not USPS MAIL.

[@1944robbo]

I bought a property in Sydney (Australia) in an HOA, and I ended up on the commitee of same. Yes, we did have rules, but their were no rules about Obsessive/Compulsive owners. (And strangely, one old biddy was named Margaret too!) Two of the owners were public servants in Govt departments, and the changes they tried and tried to get changed for 1 or 2 owners, were absolutely outrageous. But I solved that by reversing the complaints back on them about every little thing they did that was annoying, like parking on the main driveway, hanging things on their house that were too colorful, you know, really minor stuff. (Like your 3 bushes.) Eventually they got the message and sold up and moved, and Peace Rained Supreme.

[@EdLeeper]

That is exactly what "Margaret" is trying to do. Where is the difference? Members of the board of HOAs are elected by those in said HOA. If the majority of owners didn't like what was going on they would simply elect a new board. Individuals who buy into an HOA should read their agreement AND take an interest in what their HOA is doing.

[@blue2824]

I love your solution to the dead trees 😁👏 I personally would never live in an HOA controlled neighborhood. Nobody should be allowed to tell you what you can and cannot do with or on your own property. 😡

[@Crowski]

Agreed.

[@richard6440]

Nobody should be allowed to tell you what you can and cannot do with or on your own property.. In the uk , every town has a council. There are rules of what you can and can not do, but nowhere near as busybody as HOAs are.

[@donklesa6040]

Get a restraining order over the threat to make you moved especially if you are not part of the HOA. Excessive fines are illegal.

[@Kelly-tp1wq]

I would turn their email over to the police and have them tract them down. I'm sure there are some you tubers out there who can trace their ip address and find out where these people are hiding.

[@LawrenceTuckerFyretuck]

Misuse of a mailbox is a matter for the US Postal Service. There is are Inspectors which deals with these complaints. Do make a recording if possible.

[@JarlSeamus]

Rule #1..... NEVER EVER EVER buy in an HOA. They should be illegal.

[@Lucdreams21]

Never buy a house in a HOA community. Fight them unless you enjoy the harassment.

[@kbanghart]

I like my HOA. Assuming they're all "bad" is ignorant.

[@robertwarren7428]

@@kbanghart If you like your HOA, then you either got lucky and found the equivalent of a 4-leaf clover in the middle of the desert, OR you are on the HOA board.

[@kbanghart]

@@robertwarren7428 lol hilarious

[@larrybud]

@@kbanghart We found the HOA president everybody.

[@kbanghart]

@@larrybud absolutely. I just got back from a meeting

[@BobbyBasketballl]

That HOA email where they are literally threatening to put you into the poor house just to get rid of you is insane. There's nothing you can do legally to get these people in check? They are literally incriminating themselves.

[@Real_Tim_S]

That's enough for a 5th Amendment claim against the HOA - unlawful taking for the public good without just compensation (HOA here is a government body looking to take the private property for the benefit of its members i.e. "for the public good").

[@karmamagers537]

If there isn't an HOA listed in the documents from your sale, then your property isn't covered by any HOA rules. You are doing just what the sender wants you to do. Everytime they send you a letter, you jump.

[@johnjamesjoseph3814]

Thank you! At least someone else noticed that! I can't believe he cut down all of the hostas and other plants that he did.

[@6254KLR]

I was thinking the same thing......

[@Watchout-b6y]

Find the writer of the letter and bury them under the bush.

[@steveboyes2090]

The painters house always needs painting, the carpenters house always needs mending, the landscapers grounds always need maintained. Why? Because they work hard for a living.

[@Davionious]

HOA declares in writing that their intent is to harass you to move. Way to go!!! Call the lawyers.

[@mnomadvfx]

It's not even the HOA itself, it's other homeowners in the area that are abusing the HOA as a method of harassment.

[@tw8464]

State legislatures need to OUTLAW "HOAs" altogether on detached homes. Let's make this simple and better for everyone in the state who needs housing by ENDING the corrupt lawyers "HOA" gravy train.

[@brianweaver3617]

If you are not a member of the HOA and you do not pay the HOA dues, then there is not anything they can do to you legally or financially. You can send them a seize and desist letter demanding they stop harassing you.

[@the_j_brett6734]

Love how the letter admits they will harrass you until you move. They have deemed you undesireable and want you gone.

[@jameshayden3952]

Great Americans

[@hautepinkrae8084]

This a threat from HOA. you should take them to court for restraining order!

[@PWingert1966]

@@hautepinkrae8084 I think that meets the standard for criminal harassment. I would document my time to attempt to comply and then point out you are not a member of the HOA invoice them for your time and effort at 10,000 an hour and then take them to court to recover your costs.

[@FLIPPER1439]

⁠crazy, you are not in an HOA. ONLY WAY IS IF YOU LIVED IN A COMMUNITY, OR CONDO❗️

[@montamiddleton9318]

​@@FLIPPER1439Right, the middle of the woods is not HOA material. Swing from the tree tops like Tarzan and nobody can stop you. 😅

[@kimberlymitchell1217]

You should be able to leave an HoA when they abuse their authority

[@theilluminati4654]

There was nothing wrong with the plant growth by your creek. You had some nice flowers growing there. I would have confronted my neighbors. That might explain why my neighbors are afraid of me.

[@ritarevell7195]

I thought they had planted squash or something and that was there on purpose!

[@deltawhiskey1398]

Until you run into the wrong neighbor and get your ass beat.

[@keithussery3060]

I’ve never heard of a HOA in the country side.

[@greghale717]

Me either.

[@jimsmith9819]

they have them here in some places

[@RustyDugger]

Many haven't I lived in one in Indiana. Didn't know there was a HOA there until a knock on the door.. Never again...

[@sandys.1891]

They have them. We are looking for a new house in another part of the country. I can't believe the number of homes in the country under HOA. When I use the real estate websites I add "no HOA" to my searches.

[@chiefguns1980]

sold our property in central pa in 2022 house and 7 acres. one of the questions in the sellers disclosure was "is this residence part of an HOA.​@RustyDugger

[@WhatWillYouFind]

Get an attorney. If your home was not explicitly sold as part of their HOA, they will have to pound sand. Either way, you will need an attorney. I'd never live in an HOA.

[@billkaldem5099]

IF your not part of the hoa every time they set foot on your property have them arrested for trespassing

[@brandonaustad6105]

@@billkaldem5099 we don't call the cops for trespassing around here 🤣

[@MrWolfSnack]

@@brandonaustad6105 Call up the boys. Mr. Smith & Mr. Wesson.