7 Horrible Minigames You Can’t Avoid If You Want to Finish the Game

[@Jade-St28]

Whaaat, running the Cabaret club in the Yakuza series ist the best part! What better feeling is there to turn a shabby club with a bronze team into a S tier club decked out with platinum hostesses who I have meticulously styled for the best stats. To me, this is the gwent of Yakuza

[@wisewolftony]

Honestly if they were gonna take anything from the Yakuza series of games they should have replaced the tailing segments in LA Noire and instead put Judgment on the list for it's tailing segments. As there are so many in that game honestly not sure how many are in the actually main missions or if it just felt like there was a shit ton of them because I was doing all of the side cases. But man did I get sick of them after awhile. I mean I get it that is a part of the job of being a PI. But still doesn't change the fact that they were boring. Was just literally hide behind something wait walk hide behind something wait walk and repeat until it's over. At least with the other mini game things like the chasing segments you at least had to be engaged with it and hit the button promps at the right time so it didn't feel boring.

[@Vaerlayn]

Yeah, honestly the Cabaret club segments were great. If they wanted to take anything from 0, how about the weird car shooting segment at the end that is an absolute ballache on Legend.

[@sindrisuncatcher653]

The dramatic organized crime and punching segments would not be nearly as interesting if they were not interspersed with sequences where I pretend to know how to produce a tv show, funnel billions from my property management enterprise into defeating children at slot cars, and learn how to become a master of bowling in order to recruit a chicken who I will employ as manager of several of my businesses.

[@AtomicBananaPress]

The only issue I had with the cabaret minigame in Yakuza 0 was that by the time I was done with it I'd forgotten the plot.

[@azrael2744]

Personally I hated the cabaret, or the businesses with Kiryu. And then the "mad dog of Shimano" style isn't even worth the hassle.

[@castelau103]

"A shetland pony would never-" Imma stop you right there, Shetland ponies are evil incarnate. Legend says the concept of minigames was dreamt up by one.

[@markieclift2193]

He has never met a shetland because you are right. They are bitey little assholes.

[@NepheleButler]

Having worked with Shetland ponies in the past, I agree.

[@RandomPerson1313]

They have the nastiest attitude and they are so grumpy them and actual miniature horses

[@mrsnatural2368]

I've met one, can confirn. That little one-eyed bastard was the worst.

[@Greyjay254]

Yeah, ponies can be nasty. I did a double take the other day as the kids I was around asked if the barn I worked at had ponies, wondering what could be so exciting about entitled mini-horses, remembering the aforementioned rule about cute small things. To their credit, they are cute, and not all stubborn and entitled, but many of them are lol

[@JollyJa5on]

If you don't like the cabaret club in Yakuza, even though it's great, at least you don't have to actually succeed to get through it. There's no fail state. You can put the controller down for 3 minutes, come back and then never touch the mini game again. The only real downside is you won't get money or completion points for it.

[@Achoohorsey]

Sorry for the pile up Andy but the Cabaret Club is so amazing and I truly hope they eventually make a spin off that just focuses on that game.

[@brittanyzeller328]

Yakuza 0 had the best cabaret club mini game too. The rest were mediocre at best if not worse. I miss that one, I'm currently playing 5, and they're just getting further and further from keeping my interest because of so many changes.

[@denizthemeniz]

@@brittanyzeller328 I thought Kiwami 2 had the same cabaret mini-game

[@brittanyzeller328]

@@denizthemeniz it does, I think they found out people liked the club from 2 and put it into 0 but I'm not fully sure.

[@maad1670]

I had the time of my life playing it

[@Romanbellic31]

I heard the music listening this video and I immediately went. Nah Club Sunshine was the best part!

[@VonBlade]

The worst minigame is in Hades, where you have to stop your attempts to seduce every single character in the hub and go off and beat up some strange creatures. It takes ages.

[@DistrarSubvoyikar]

xDDD

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

Does a minigame qualify as bad, if the main game is hot garbage to begin with?

[@omegalul8861]

@@user-xu2pi6vx7o

[@CoffeeFresh_]

Hades is crap.

[@chukyuniqul]

It's only bad if you don't use the objectively best weapon, the fists of malphon.

[@richarddakazo2878]

12:01 My friend who's a big Yakuza fan seemed to enjoy the Cabaret Club minigame almost more than the main game. It is weird for something so drastically different from the core gameplay to be mandatory but I don't think that makes it a BAD minigame

[@stone5against1]

I played 0 a few months ago, and I actually enjoyed the cabaret minigame.

[@TRminecrafter]

Dont you dare put the wonderful club management of yakuza on this list! that is one of the most fun activities in those games!

[@Underjoggle]

I do like the Fallout series’ hacking sequences, especially the neat little trick where you find open and closed brackets in the code to eliminate false passwords from the list. Also, it’s not timed, which is good.

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

I love the Fallout hacking games. Once I figured out how they work, it becomes like a fun newspaper word puzzle. The funniest part about them are how the "easy" ones are way harder than the "hard" ones and the "very hard" ones are almost impossible to lose because you have four attempts and there are only five words.

[@UpperDarbyDetailing]

​@@Jeremy-ql1orThe number of words to choose from and the number of tries you have are based upon your perks and intelligence level.

[@84jesterx]

Love to point out that the infamous snowboarding moment in FFVII is literally moments (well a day) after THAT ONE scene which defined the game for so many people. Tone-shift ahoy, Squaresoft! never change.

[@liamnehren1054]

yeah it's pretty bonkers considering that most people myself included are inconsolable after the death of a loved one you would expect cloud to be stoic... more so and unwilling to do something so fun.

[@williedeguzman1540]

Too late Square Enix Now

[@somethingelse516]

The snow boarding game was excellent and I will hear nothing against it!

[@tylerwalters2205]

Ff7 was overrated trash. The localization was shit. Nothing was spelled right

[@jackfrost8698]

@@tylerwalters2205 I think you misspelled "I'm stupid and my opinion is trash".

[@etourdie]

Basically Apollo's bracelet fits his wrist absolutely perfectly, and whenever he notices someone lying to him his blood pressure rises slightly and the bracelet no longer fits right

[@gorimbaud]

Yeah, it's explained as a talent that runs in his family, that the bracelets were only made to simplify the whole process. It might theoretically be possibly for him to do without the bracelet, but he doesn't have as much practice as, say, his grandpa did.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@gorimbaud It runs in his bloodline? I mean, I have played Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, and i thought it was great, not as good as the previous Ace Attorney games, but still earns the right to be an Ace Attorney game. Plus, his sister Trucy, can also see it, as can their mother, the famous pop diva, Lamiroir. And also, Phoenix Wright can sense their ability too. Maybe because he's still got the Magatama Maya gave him all those years ago... and now Apollo is Nick's apprentice. The first Apollo Justice Ace Attorney game is great, but a bit too short, and some parts make the game aggravating to play through again. Like the 3rd episode, with Romein Letuse's death at the Gavinner's concert, and trying to use the bracelet to try and figure out how to see through Lamiroir and the little piano boy's lies as a team, is just annoying. It's not done as well as the Psyche-Locks from Justice For All and Trials & Tribulations, but even then, it was done WAAAY too often in both games, and the confusing backtracking between both for the psyche-locks quickly became a massive pain in the ass. We all like Maya, but the Magatama and the Psyche-Lock thing can go to hell. The story's still fun and engaging though using the Magatama and going through the Psyche-Locks are some of the worst parts I always dread whenever i revisit the games on my 3DS. That being said, I love the Ace Attorney series. Nothing to add there, I just love this series.

[@gorimbaud]

@@shawnfields2369 We know that Phoenix still has the Magatama, since he uses it extensively in the fourth case. In fact, I'm pretty sure the part I always get stuck on whenever I replay is remembering the order you need to break various Psyche-Locks in that investigation. There was a second bracelet, you see Thalassa wearing it after she drops the Lamiroir disguise, so I imagine she's even more capable of Perceiving than Apollo, especially since she had her dad, Magnifi Gramarye, to teach her directly. She probably used both bracelets before she left one with Apollo, and I have no doubt Trucy'd be just as capable of learning if she had one. AJ's actually one of my favorite games in the series (GAA is currently contending with it for top spot, but I still need to finish it the second one), and I like to revisit it regularly. You can really tell that it was actually designed with the DS in mind instead of just ported from GBA.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@gorimbaud Yeah, I always forget that part in the 4th case. Turnabout Succession. I know, Lamiroir has 2 bracelets. I'm replaying through the 3rd case again, currently on the 3DS. I'm probably the only guy who still even owns a 3DSXXL. Because I have no way to download the games. Because where I live, the internet sucks. We literally have no wifi or computer. So I just use my phone. Not much better. I don't like the Psyche-Locks very much, but I hate how they didn't bring back Maya for this game, or show us how what happened after Nick got fired for accidentally presenting falsified evidence. I know she comes back in the game after this one, after Nick becomes a lawyer again, and regains his badge. And gets a stylish new suit, and a little spiky fringe to his already sweet hair. And Maya comes back in the Ace Attorney vs. Professor Layton crossover that nobody but me enjoys, apparently. Yeah, I agree. Definitely felt the effort put into later Ace Attorney games, and that they were all designed with the later handhelds in mind, not just ports of the original GBA games, moved from the GBA to the DS. But that being said, I don't have any way to download the games... so when my 3DS dies, I'll be s**t out of luck to be able to play my DS games. But I'm glad they're still hanging in there for the time being. I just wish I could play the latest Ace Attorney game too... and the ones before that. Huge Ace Attorney fan. I mean, Ace Attorney JUST celebrated it's 20th anniversary. While I'm a little sad Phoenix Wright didn't get into Smash Ultimate, I am super glad Sora did though. I love the Kingdom Hearts series too. I hope there's more Apollo Justice games in the future, and more Miles Edgeworth games too. The first one was kind of weak, but I liked it. I keep hearing how incredible the 2nd Edgeworth game is. And how it sucks that we never got it. Hey, as a HUGE Ace Attorney fan, I'm genuinely pissed not getting ANY Ace Attorney game. Still a bit pissed about not getting the Ace Attorney anime, too. But I've read the Ace Attorney manga. It's pretty good. Any chance I get to revisit the Ace Attorney series, I'll gladly take. Just recently revisited the Ace Attorney trilogy, and now I'm on the AJ game's 3rd case. After that, I'm planning on beating the game again, and then ending my revisit with the Edgeworth game.

[@gorimbaud]

@@shawnfields2369 I still have my 3DSXXL! I don't use it as much since I got a Switch, but when I do, it's mostly for Ace Attorney. When I finally finish GAA2 I'm probably going to do a big replay of the series, especially since I never got around to 5 & 6. Ironically, the Professor Layton crossover is the only one I don't have _because_ it's not available to download, but I wouldn't say you're the only one who liked it. Everything I've heard about it is pretty positive! Much more positive than what I've heard about 5 & 6.

[@krise99391]

I can't believe you put the cabaret club on this list, that mini-game was awesome. Weird, but awesome.

[@Lmd1986]

I ❤️ the caberet club minigame! I've had a tough year and have found all the minigames in Yakuza 0 a very welcome distraction.

[@seand7042]

I gotta disagree with you Andy running a Cabaret club is amazing!

[@dilara1916]

Glad not to be alone on this one! 🙌

[@2011multisam]

The cabaret club mini game is absolutely amazing, wish it was in more of the games

[@mar_speedman]

As a side quest, sure. It's still mandatory, and completely different to the main game, so I understand what Andy means

[@morgaknightgames]

This was legit one of my favorite parts of the game!

[@nigelbassett3791]

This actually looks more fun than Yakuza

[@midstairs-piano]

Chrono Trigger's Jetbike section is a rubber-banding nightmare. As a kid I remember losing a bunch of times before realizing it's completely useless to even play it until the last few kilometers.

[@GrieverSSBU]

You literally just have to get in front of Johnny and basically read his movements before he even decides on what to do. What's so hard about that? /s

[@C4chorroSa1sicha]

My main issue with the inclusion of the Yakuza 0 cabaret game is not even that I, personally, fucking loved it, its that you only are actually required to serve one night and that takes 5 minutes or something like that, then you can go back to the story and maybe come back to unlock the new styles if you're having a hard time. I managed to finish the game easily without ever doing a night after the first and only got around to doing it in the post game. You only NEED to do it if you want to 100% it, and then cabaret is the least of your worries.

[@jude_illusion]

That's like. All of the minigames here. None of them are much longer than ten minutes, with the exception of the sliding puzzle if you're especially bad at them.

[@nobodyfamousX]

@@jude_illusion It seems like most of them they were just complaining about bad Mini games, but the Yakuza one wasn't really about it being bad. They were just complaining about it turning into a completely different genre of game for 5 minutes XD

[@jude_illusion]

@@nobodyfamousX Is the game suddenly forcing you to do something entirely different that wasn't why you bought the game not bad?

[@crummymonk4917]

The best (?) part of the RE4 puzzle is the fact that you can just beat it by moving the blocks in a sequential order, not even moving around the board.

[@patrickalexander9102]

Might I suggest the tower defense minigame from AC: Revelations? You only have to do it once, but you'll spend the rest of the game making damn sure you never let your notoriety get too high so you don't have to do it again.

[@davidmorris6707]

I always took the option of quickly capturing every tower so I never had to do it again...

[@Aslimb6gd]

Only good thing about that minigame was Ezios inexplicably badass quotes like “Make your stand there.”

[@insaincaldo]

@@Aslimb6gd Too bad he only has a couple of lines and they repeat allot, even if you only play the once.

[@Trekmaster47]

There's a game called Animal Crossing: Revelations?

[@insaincaldo]

@@Trekmaster47 Yes it's the one where you finally get to pay back Tom Nook.

[@aubreymhill]

I can't believe I'm here doing this ... in THIS economy. The Cabaret Club in Yakuza 0 is actually wonderful. This is a hill I will die on. I'm ready. Oxtra, we're fighting! It plays SO perfectly into the narrative of Majima as actually secretly good boss and supporter of his female employees. It's such a rewarding way to engage deeper in his character and in understanding how he gets to be who he is later in the time line. I was so invested in the stories of the women working in his night club. Also, it's a pretty fun simulation and a lot better than the versions of it that existed in previous entries to the series. It ALSO is completely in-line with the Yakuza approach to mini games. One could really argue that the whole franchise is 80% mini game tied together with visually entertaining beat em up. No one I know is playing Yakuza specifically for the combat :p LoL. End rant. Me, dead alone on a hill. Lol. Edit: So this entire comment section is full of Cabaret Club love. Y0 represent! Sorry for the pile on. ;-) To make it better - 5000% agreement about the sliding tile puzzle. Just sliding tile puzzles in general. I have rage quite several games for sliding tile puzzles. Game design license revoked!

[@DerpyLaron]

Listen to this person!

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

No, the Cabaret club in Yakuza 0 isn't horrible, and it also isn't mandatory beyond that first time. You know what is horrible? The tailing mini game in the Yakuza spinoff Judgment. It's every bit as boring as the one in LA Noire, but it feels like it happens way more often. The only time I had fun with it is the time I had to tail someone while wearing a disguise, but realized the game didn't specify WHICH disguise I had to use, so I did it dressed as a vampire.

[@mar_speedman]

"Remember, you have to blend in" *Twenty minutes later as a vampire tails a criminal*

[@penname8441]

+

[@SaaitanK]

YES! I stopped playing before a tailing quest, and cannot convince myself to pick it up again. A shame, it's such a fun game otherwise.

[@bitterpickles]

Hard ass agree! Those were awful! I also didn't like the drone races, but that's because I longed for pocket racing

[@krish.9452]

Agreed, just now playing Judgement for the first time and this came to mind right away!

[@angryeevee9243]

The digging game in Okami. Hated it when the game introduced it as a "fun" mini-game, stopped playing an otherwise wonderful game when I needed to play it to advance the plot.

[@tigerthetonio]

I'm guilty of spending way more time with my Yakuza real state business than taking care of the main storyline. Gambling King, i'm on to you!

[@invalidude]

I've never been as involved in a mini-game as I've been with all the manangement mini-games in all Yakuza games. Shocked to see it make the list, especially since in the case of Majima, that has narrative implications in the rest of the games and does such a fantastic job of contouring that character more than Yakuza 1 through 5 (haven't played 6 yet), manage to do.

[@michaelanderson6394]

Oh, I will certainly disagree with you on Yakuza 0’s cabaret club management game. I spent so much time in there training my hostesses, getting them to the best level they could be, making over the hostesses to be the most appealing they can be, playing the actual management game and pairing clients with the best hostess for them, and doing one on one training with the platinum hostesses and learning more about them. I even love the storyline that comes with playing this mini game, taking on rival clubs. And I am super glad they managed to bring it back in Yakuza Kiwami 2! Still, love the video as usual, guys. Glad to see you all back in the office again.

[@essexboy2006]

I was addicted to it.

[@john_Reilly2027]

@@essexboy2006 Same here, I spent more time playing it than I did the rest of the game. And I just read in the comments that its in Yakuza Kiwami 2, So its literally downloading now as I write this

[@john_Reilly2027]

@@bobbyfernando Yep I likes me some acid jazz too

[@angelganon8213]

Yeah I agree I'm playing the cabaret club right now and about to take on club moon in Y0 and I'm having a ton of fun buffing up to beat the final club

[@john_Reilly2027]

@@angelganon8213 Hope you're keeping the middle-aged woman with the tiger on her t-shirt from one of the substories happy. She's a real good moneymaker, even better than most of the platinum hostesses

[@vermin4023]

The cabaret club minigame is great. I've spent dozens of hours in it between 0 and Kiwami 2.

[@kommandantsigma1732]

I'm surprised you expected anything less than a snowboarding minigame from a game featuring an organization called "Avalanche".

[@screamingfalcon71]

She of the Mighty Puns was not in this one or we'd have had a pun or two based on that fact.

[@insainraven9875]

There are no problems in Yakuza 0 every part of that game is a blissful insane trip

[@shawnfields2369]

I agree, but the pocket racing can go directly to hell. That's the only SLIGHT inconvenience with Yakuza 0, which is a perfect gift from the heavens, in every other way. But I still tried to 100% the game anyways, and while i did almost get the trophies for completing pocket racing, I can't do it. I'm sorry Yakuza 0. Still an amazing game in every way. Especially the story and the way that an entire small patch of land can tie into so many other games. Like how that one small piece of land is actually the place where the finale of the original Yakuza/Ryu Ga Gotoku game takes place, The Millennium Tower, where Kiryu had a shirtless fist fight with waves of gangsters, in order to rescue Haruka, and destroys the main bad guy's getaway helicopter. And getting beaten, bloodied and brutally injured on the rooftop of the Millennium Tower, which is one of the best moments in the entire series, and one of the most badass things Kiryu has ever done, and shows us how far he's willing to go to protect and rescue Haruka, no matter what. All because of the Empty Lot eventually being used to help create the Millennium Tower. An amazingly well done way to tie the plot of 0 into other future Yakuza games. Even though I know it's a prequel, and supposed to tie into the future games, but still. It's HOW they do it in this one game that made me a HUGE Yakuza fan and want to check out the other games in the series. From Kiwami, to The Song Of Life, to Like A Dragon. Which are all amazingly done games and perfect in every detail, just like 0 was. Now if only all those games were somehow released on the Switch too... imagine, handheld Yakuza games, the 5 best Yakuza games: "Yakuza 0", "Yakuza Kiwami", "Yakuza Kiwami 2", "Yakuza 6: The Song Of Life", and "Yakuza: Like A Dragon", all in ONE place, one collection, all on the Switch, so you could play them, anywhere, anytime at all...

[@DrNaz]

@@shawnfields2369 no the pocket racing game is great too, shush

[@maad1670]

@@shawnfields2369 I'm with you. I only managed to finish the last race with pure, dumb luck, even after following the guide. Screw that and all the RNG using minigames in the franchise.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@maad1670 Thank you, glad someone else agrees, even though I would never ask anyone to, no offense. But thank you anyways though, and honestly, I barely even remember writing that reply, but I'm glad that someone gave me both a positive and a negative reply, because while I don't really remember writing that reply, I do remember how much I loved(still do love), the Yakuza/Ryu Ga Gotoku series, and I haven't forgotten that. But yeah; I really didn't like any of the mini-games in the Yakuza remakes. But other than those slight inconveniences, the Yakuza/Ryu Ga Gotoku franchise was pretty much perfect everywhere else, like perfectly memorable characters, who were perfectly written and voice acted in the remakes. I just despised the annoying toy car racing minigame. Because you have to at least win at the race, at least ONCE; but it's next to impossible to get right. I nearly rage quit the entire game and the series because of that minigame. Broke my controller, had to wait for a new one, STILL couldn't get past the minigame. Sure; I eventually beat Yakuza 0, and to this day, I still love the Yakuza series, and have played nearly every remake, except "Kiwami 2", and; i wanted to play through "Yakuza: Like A Dragon", but my ps4 finally broke, along with my TV, which just stopped working, and for the last 2 years; my old ps4 and my entire library of ps4 games, alongside my old collection of dvds, and anime collections, are all now defunct, and the ps4 has been officially declared dead and gone, as are my ps4 games; the movie's, my anime collections, and just everything I have to do with it, and now, I moved on to the Switch instead, and who knows? Maybe, just maybe, hopefully somday, some of those old ps4 games will get Switch remakes. I mean; we already got a port of "Persona 5 Royal" on the Switch, and it's even got a sequel, "Persona 5 Strikers". And the last ps4 game I played was either the "Spider-Man: Miles Morales" game, or "Yakuza: Like A Dragon", both of which are great games; that I'm glad got PS5 ports. Because Spider-Man is my favorite superhero, and I love the Yakuza franchise still deciding to go on, even without Kazuma Kiryu, or Goro Majima, or even Haruka. But the series was still fun to go through. Same with the 2 Spider-Man games, both Peter Parker and Miles Morales had great games, and have had great movies too. So I'm glad to have played those games; and I sincerely hope that everyone else can enjoy the Spider-Man and Yakuza series from the PS4 to the PS5; and maybe someday, we'll see either a remake or a port of some of the PS4/PS5 libraries, to the Switch. We did get games like Dragon Ball FighterZ and Resident Evil 4 on the Switch, and then, there's the new RE4 Remake coming out soon, too. Can't wait for that, because I love RE4(the original version, on the GameCube), and Leon's my favorite RE protagonist too. So, glad to finally have a Remake of it, after waiting for like, nearly 20+ years, for something more than just the numerous ports of RE4, even though I do love the RE series. Whoops, sorry, went off-track there. My bad. Anyway, thanks again.

[@HCBYRD]

I really liked the CP77 hacking minigame - those are usually *extremely annoying*, but this one made it possible to choose which hacks to prioritise, let you attempt to get as many as possible and was possible to upgrade for shorter strings and "free" hacks. If you didn't like spending time on the hacking minigame, you could either upgrade it (and still become a hacking god), be fine with a lower number of hacks at a time or do a different build and mostly ignore it throughout the game. It's my favourite hacking minigame to date.

[@JoshuaCamacho09]

I second this

[@szabe3758]

Exactly my thoughts!

[@Nick30468]

haha same....maybe we're the weird ones

[@metazoxan2]

Also you didn't even have to do much hacking. You could just focus on run and gun gameplay if you prefered and most of the game only presented hacking as a "stealth" option where you could get stuff done without fighting. This was meant to be a list of ones that you HAD to complete. But it was barely every mandatory and brief enough when it was that it wasn't worth mentioning. Pretty sure they only put that on here so they could put CP77 on the list.

[@fireblade295]

The only thing I don't like is the rng...

[@Kuchiri]

The Cabaret Club was amazing. I loved that it returned in Yakuza Kiwami 2.

[@lalaulaulau]

The Cabaret Club section in Yakuza is flawless. I won’t stand for this slander. Petition to remove Andy from the Yakuza fan club incoming.

[@lnsflare1]

Well, going by Yakuza 0, the appropriate punishment following removing someone from the Yakuza anything is to put them in charge of the most popular cabaret club around.

[@cactustactics]

@@lnsflare1 Andy's been one step ahead this whole time!

[@Kaiser8513]

@@lnsflare1 we'll take a finger instead

[@kiki3400]

Came straight here to say this! Down with Andy. Usually Andy's hot takes are on point (Speedball 2 is a classic) but this is beyond the pale!

[@skyford3663]

agreed totally

[@nikanj]

As a kid I was never able to finish Donkey Kong 64 because toward the end of the game you are required to get a high-score on the arcade game "Jetpac" in order to proceed.

[@whitethunder9064]

Oh yeah! The Jetpac and Donkey Kong arcade minigames should be on this list because you have to beat BOTH to beat the game (you have to beat DK Arcade twice, actually!)

[@frodobaggins7710]

The gummi ship sections from the Kingdom Hearts games spring to my mind, especially in 2. They go on for so long, and all they do is get in the way of me beating up a bunch of shady dudes in long trenchcoats

[@DeathGodRiku]

1 was a snore. At least 2 and 3 made it fun

[@ladyicondraco]

This, 100%

[@LazloRTR]

In KH2 it's just a special 5 minute stage that you only need to do once and all you need to do is just survive, IMO it's pretty fun with a lot of action. KH1 however...

[@kraziiXIII]

As I grew up I learned to enjoy the gummiship missions a lot more, but the icecream minigame in Ventus' route for BBS made me scream. It was the only time I have ever wanted to throw my controller.

[@delicateghoul]

Everything about the gummi ship was upsetting to me, glad I'm not the only one 😤

[@madmandoctorwatson7597]

I can respect y’all mentioned “dead to rights” . that game was actually one of my favorite video games but the mini games I loved doing all the prison mini games acquiring packs of smokes so he could get a map to escape prison and then the bomb disarming at the near end and being able to play as shadow to find the bombs made Dead to rights a gem 💜

[@lozzimusprime]

I love the Cabaret Club from 0. Was obsessed with getting all the hostesses. Would love Sega to release an actual CC game, would be a day one grab for me.

[@shawnfields2369]

I'd play that, too, BUT only if there were a story involving both Majima and Haruka(Kiryu's adopted daughter), being in it, and you play as Majima, running around town, recruiting girls, and secretly helping stop a secret underground club that's trying to stop Majima, and it gets deeper and deeper as the story progresses, because it's a game in the Yakuza series, which are ALWAYS deep and rich in story, and gameplay. Even if it's just a side story, It's still THE Goro Majima, dammit! And you treat his character with respect. The same way he treats the women at his establishment. But not the same way he reacts whenever he sees Kiryu... because(in case you didn't know already) he basically turns into Japanese Joker and loses his s**t. Seriously. And the game's set after the events of Like A Dragon, the latest installment of the Yakuza series. But it's still a story about Majima running a cabaret club, and the girls in the club who are all established characters, with their own charm, personalities, quirks, and deep emotional backstories and interpersonal relationships with certain characters who show up at said club. And Majima can expand his club's reach to grow more and more, until it becomes THE defining club in ALL of Kamurocho. And also, you can sing karaoke in the game too, as either Majima, or any of the girls, or with them. Because this is still a game set in the Yakuza series, it's got to be deep with emotion and story, and bittersweet and sad moments too. It can't just be a half-assed, lazy attempt here. This is still the Yakzua universe here, and as such, fans of the Yakuza/Ryu Ga Gotoku series(myself included),will NOT accept any laziness on your part, Sega! But the pocket racing minigame totally blows sometimes, but maybe I'm only saying that because I sucked at it. I wanted to like it though. I wanted to 100% the entirety of Yakuza 0. That was the game that made me want to go and play more of the series and 100% all of them. But sadly, my PS4 broke, so it's now impossible for me. But as a Yakuza fan, I'd still be happy if the game came out someday. But I'd still wish it were on the Switch too... also, sorry about this long comment, dude/lady. I just really love this series.

[@windamflowright]

Agreed, was thrilled 2 Kiwami brought it back! One of the best parts of 0 imo.

[@Guy1189]

I'm glad Andy feels the same way about sliding block puzzles as I do

[@cheapshotninja]

That Yakuza mini-game was so fun though. I probably spent more time waiting tables than kicking baddies in those games.

[@missmoanypants]

SAME!

[@mikebereziuk6041]

lol. so true. at first when you don't have many hostesses it feels like a burden but as soon as you learn the gils sign language and "buy" girls from the eperience shop round the corner or through side quests it becomes oddly addictive as the music is mesmorising! it beame my favourite minigame apart from karaoke and pocket racing.

[@madphilb]

My roommate put hour and hours into this, to the point where if they sold a standalone game, he likely would have bought it.

[@aubreymhill]

@@madphilb Same. I would still buy it as a stand alone game.

[@MageCursed99]

Facts

[@cjdowns5748]

I thought everyone loved the cabaret club in yakuza. It was definitely my favorite mini game, and im glad they kept it going in the remakes and fist of the north star.

[@Djungelurban]

The Cabaret Club might be the best thing in Yakuza Zero, and I really enjoy all parts of that game. Heck, if they took the Cabaret Club mini game, fleshed it out a little bit and released it stand alone I'd play the shit out of that.

[@yamigekusu]

When I saw the RE4 puzzle on here, I was reminded of the sliding puzzle from Onimusha 1 when Samanosuke was stuck in the room filling with water. You were Kaede, and it wasn't apparent right away that you had to do a puzzle. And when you got to the puzzle, the timer made the experience more stressful. The puzzle itself is fairly easy, but the time limit made the tiny section flat-out infuriating

[@GrieverSSBU]

This is the correct answer. Literally a piss easy puzzle that becomes far more difficult due to the fact that the nearest checkpoint is quite a few rooms and puzzles away and the timer that actively makes you suck at doing puzzles.

[@Hobobatman1000]

Oh, man. In Knights of the Old Republic, every single time you travel to a different planet, you have to play this awful gun turret minigame where you shoot a dozen Sith space fighters. Having to do it once to escape a Sith occupied planet is one thing, but the game throws this minigame at you every single time you travel to a different planet, even if you're only visiting the place to talk to one NPC! Then you have to do it again when you leave to go back to the main story!

[@insaincaldo]

Managed to fail that on the pc port.. Save often people, you don't wanna be pulled back to a cutscene and boss fight for failing that..

[@angelganon8213]

I never failed it. It wasn't that bad

[@insaincaldo]

@@angelganon8213 Well, my pc is also a piece of crap, so it didn't run well in those sequences at times.

[@alexpage4355]

To be fair, it's only a random chance that you'll have to fend off the fighters before you can make the jump to the next planet, not every single time you go anywhere... but it totally sucks, and even one extra occurrence is one too many!

[@Pfisiar22]

@@alexpage4355 There are 3 times where playing it is mandatory thought. Escaping taris, getting captured by the Leviathan, and arriving at the Star Forge

[@zombieham904]

The Festival Plaza minigame in Pokemon Sun + Moon (and the Ultra versions, I'm pretty sure) was an annoying thing that you could do pretty much whenever, but if you get to a certain part of the game and haven't done it yet then you are forced to before you can continue. I replayed the game a bunch of times and always dreaded that part.

[@hommefataltaemin]

Yep it pissed me off so badly when I replayed it recently. Utterly unnecessary. I had been at least keeping up with it in my first playthrough to get stat boosting items from one of the festival shops, but on my recent playthrough I didn’t want to use such items & it was torture.

[@brandonnorman3680]

Whaaaaaat, that's bull The club missions were the shit I loved dressing up my hostesses and building relationships with them

[@shawnfields2369]

I guess you got a point there. All the cabaret girls did feel like they were each their own person, and each of them did have their own charm and personality too. So I didn't mind it too much, but I definitely enjoyed the story more. But then again, Yakuza 0 is perfect in every way.

[@Droidsbane]

At least Kiryu gets a crack at it in Yakuza kiwami 2... and gets Majima as the play by player after the other one gets the boot

[@xcw4934]

Developers of Yakuza dreamed of making a hit tycoon game and curse the day their crime syndicate beat-em up became popular.

[@JackDPearl]

""Lovely Leon." This needs to be his nickname in canon.

[@lnsflare1]

First said by Ada Wong, then said exclusively by everyone that heard Ada Wong say it and the people they told about it.

[@marhawkman303]

@@lnsflare1 Or maybe only Ashley... and only when no one but Leon can hear it? :D

[@jodinsan]

*_"LEEOOOONNNN!"_* Admit it. After the third time we heard that, we all wanted to just let her get carried away. By the seventh, we were cursing her psychic ability to duck just in time to avoid being hit when we shot at her.

[@kyuubinaruto17]

Yeah, she's annoying, but at least the game has the courtesy to let you put her in the garbage where she belongs;

[@shawnfields2369]

@@kyuubinaruto17 True. The dumpsters are where Ashley should've been kept. If it weren't for the knight armor, Ashley would be COMPLETELY irredeemable. With the armor, she goes from being 99.9% unlikable, to about, 97% unlikable, but still is the worst part of RE4, regardless, which is one of the most amazing RE games ever made. With best hair protagonist, Lovely Leon S. Kennedy, who's also just the best character in the series, and just all around best RE protagonist, sorry Chris and Jill.

[@kyuubinaruto17]

@@shawnfields2369 Ashley doesn't really bother me. I was just making a joke. In terms of helpless escorts she's far better than most games. If you have her on follow she'll always stay behind you as you turn. And if she's on stay she'll duck if you aim in her direction. So at least she's got the intelligence not to run in the line of fire in the middle of battle.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@kyuubinaruto17 Oh, I know, all that, but I was just joking too. But see, I'm really bad at it. I know, she can be annoying sometimes, but Ashley doesn't really bother me as much either. It's just her voice really. But she is at least good at listening to Lovely Leon, and good with heavy machinery, so she's not entirely useless. But to be fair, she is just a normal human being, who doesn't have any kind of special government training like Leon, and she was kidnapped by Krauser, and didn't ask to be there. So her reactions to what's happening around her, are pretty standard to how most of us would probably react to what's happening. Especially when some random villagers head just explodes and some disgusting bug thing just pops out, or some cultists are whispering things and laughing maniacally, and coming towards you, and then, their heads just randomly explode and bugs come out of them too. So yeah, Ashley can be annoying, but she's a normal human, who doesn't have special training, is in fear of being assaulted or kidnapped constantly, so her screaming for help makes sense. Yeah, good points though. She does have some common sense. Smart enough to know not to stand directly in front of Leon's guns, can handle heavy machinery, can occasionally suplex those creepy whispering cultist a-holes, during Ashley's Puzzle Funtime, and proves herself at least a little. All you have to do is give her a slight chance. Like by increasing her health with Yellow + Green Herbs, smartly using the "Stay" and "Follow" commands, and the knight armor. So with all that, she's like, maybe 70% likable? That's like a C+ or something. But to be fair although she's probably the least liked female character in the RE series, she's got to compete with the likes of Claire, Sherry, Jill, Sheva, Rebecca, and Ada. I guess I've just been watching too much of Yuriofwind or SomecallmeJohnny's takes on Ashley, and they rubbed off on me. Although they both make hilarious videos. Sorry for the long message, also, this has nothing to do with anything, but nice username regardless. You a fan of Naruto? I love that series, dude/lady.

[@billthebodyguy]

I loved the caraberet and property management games in Yakuza 0. Sorry Andy, I am the problem.

[@themysteriousstranger4580]

Don’t be sorry. Andy is the problem.

[@ivyadair]

@@themysteriousstranger4580 I have to agree. I love Andy but he is SO wrong.

[@john_Reilly2027]

The Cabaret Club is my favorite mini-game of all time

[@kitsunebaxter6311]

The Cabaret club sounds like exactly my cup of tea. And inscrutable future sudoku on an alpha-numeric bingo card sounds really awesome to me. Though, sudoku and management games are some of my favorite things.

[@Barnowl65]

Am I the only one who hates the fact that you have to play the original Donkey Kong in Donkey Kong 64 TWICE in order to beat the game? When I was a little girl, I sucked at it, and now that I'm grown, I still suck at it! This one major flaw is what keeps DK 64 from being one of my favorite games!

[@johnfoelster507]

Ah, early 20th century hacking minigames... I remember with fondness the bank hacks I would pull off by climbing up the Telegraph pole, cutting the line, and then interdicting and replacing bank transfer telegrams.

[@Cunnysmythe]

What a fantastic comment

[@SirRavix]

I loved the cabaret club in Yakuza 0! I had the makeover bgm stuck in my head for weeks after I started managing that club.

[@kylelastname4494]

The pieces in the RE4 puzzle always starts in the same place. All you have to do is move the center piece into the middle, then move all the others clockwise around it. Once you learn that it's like a 10 second distraction.

[@JamesSomersetActor]

It's so straightforward that I remembered it when I did a recent replay of the game, having not played it for over half a decade

[@CountyJelly]

Thank you! I can't believe this made the list

[@deadersurvival4716]

Also, sliding puzzles with regular shapes are extremely easy. Just find a piece that belongs in the corner and rotate a bunch of 2x2 squares in order to get that corner piece into the right place. Repeat for each piece on one side, and work your way across the board, until you're done.

[@PerfectKirby]

Yeah, I don’t get how this made the list, it’s so fucking easy rofl

[@jaredcrabb]

I also like sliding puzzles, so it was dissapointing that it was so easy.

[@keithvandorn]

Glad to see I’m not the only who came here to tell Andy how wrong he is about the cabaret management game in YAKUZA 0. Plus, if you really wanted to sell your point, I’m surprised you left out the fact that Kiryu and Majima‘a ultimate fighting styles are locked behind completion of their respective minigames.

[@geoffwalker9210]

Caberat King is pretty fun. It doesn't take that long to do, its pretty easy to progress and you get to collect actual Japanese Adult stars to work at your club. Untill the final stage where the opponent just uses his special ability over and over and you can't even get close to winning. That is nothing close to that utter garbage RE4 sliding puzzle that locked me out of the rest of the game.

[@SebasTian58323]

Why does Ashley never get any love? I've never come across a better escort mission in all my years gaming. You can tell her where to stop, multiple areas let you hide her from danger altogether, she tells you when she's in danger, she gets out of the way of your attacks in you aim them in her direction, at one point she'll be standing right behind you and do a cute little fist bump when you get enemy kills, she can drive and operate heavy machinery, she can help you get a free magnum. There are far worse characters in resident evil. I really like Ashley. Also, that moving tile puzzle is incredibly easy. It's not randomized, the answer is the same every time, and you can move multiple tiles at once...

[@DavidRBrown7]

I very much agree with the theme of this video: the terrible heart-wrenching idea that you may be stuck in a game because of a unskipable mini-game you are struggling with. However . . . Having recently finished Resident Evil 4 for the first time, that mini-game with the picture puzzle was hardly the thing that made me struggle... aim the bloody gun was much much harder. Also, I loved and played all the Yakuza games and there is a much worse minigame. In Yakuza 3 there were race battles where you either had to run away from or catch some baddy. It was the fist Yakuza game I played and it was almost my last because of the amount of time I was stuck due to a story based race battle.

[@Boffo97]

From 2000's Escape From Monkey Island: Monkey Kombat. Basically, you have to wander around an island and "fight" monkeys by shifting into various stances. You'll have to take notes because how to shift from one stance to another and which stances beat which is randomized from game to game. Brings the game to a screeching halt and kills replay value.

[@kip258]

To complete Donkey Kong 64, you have to win both of the ZX Spectrum versions of Donkey Kong Arcade AND Jetpac. Jetpac isn't too hard, but you have to finish all of DK Arcade in ONE LIFE! Absolutely brutal!

[@Sogeking79]

Yeah, I never beat DK 64 because of that.

[@kip258]

@@Sogeking79 Only reason I could beat it was because you can clip out of bounds in Hideout Helm to get the final K. Lumsy key behind the door.

[@TransmitHim]

Yep, I came here to mention Jetpac (I didn't even get to the arcade Donkey Kong) as well. Completely killed my momentum and interest in the game. Nothing says "game that requires a special add-on to make full use of the fastest, most powerful games console on Earth" like being made to play a Spectrum game!

[@Hopalongtom]

All in one life... TWICE!

[@oboyoberto07]

You missed Kingdom Hearts 2. It wouldn’t let you past the prologue without forcing you to play mini-games to make money.

[@logicaloverdrive8197]

Demon's crest: If you want to get the true ending and true final boss, You must 100% the game, and one of the HP containers is locked behind a headbutting minigame

[@javierortiz82]

and the other one is hidden in the map inside a pixelated map. Aaaaaand you need to write the password somewhere.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@javierortiz82 Wow, all of that sounds like a lot of tedious bs from what sounds like a crappy game. Maybe it's not, I don't know. Never heard of or played Demon Crest before. Sounds like a Devil May Cry spinoff.

[@javierortiz82]

@@shawnfields2369 no dude, Demon's Crest is an amazing game, it's pretty good, somewhat challenging but not dramatic, I used to finish this game in a sit when I was 15. Sadly the SNES version is somewhat rare and pretty expensive, but I have it on the Wii U virtual console and have a blast playing it. The comments were about the two most annoying things in the game, a minigame that you had to win to get one health container, but it wasn't that hard, and a health item hidden in a lake on the overworld map, that took me two weeks to find when I was a kid. I suggest you try to play it if you like classic snes platformers.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@javierortiz82 Oh, ok. Sorry then. I don't have an SNES though. But thanks anyways.

[@javierortiz82]

@@shawnfields2369 emulation my friend ;)

[@GhostOfLorelei]

Ah, I used to play that snowboarding game over and over again in the gold saucer, really enjoyed it... heathens.

[@lnsflare1]

Yakuza 0's cabaret mini-game is pretty fun, especially compared to the real estate mini-game, which is a lot less interactive (though it leads to more boss fights and is integrated better with the other side quests).

[@Joe90h]

It's been nearly three years since I played it and I still sing the fever mode music to myself when things turn around for myself in basically any game. My only real issue is that it got copied and pasted into Kiwami 2 with little in the way of tweaking. But at least it's better than the version that got put into the Fist Of The North Star game.

[@patrickbohn5235]

@@Joe90h they literally didnt even change the map lol.

[@SkeggsyDAR]

@Insflare1 I was just about to say this. I really enjoyed it, and it's not really that difficult to get into it like the video implies.

[@terrabits]

Totally agree. I just wish they did more with it, like having a bigger cabaret (more tables), allowing to customize other girls (not only the platinum ones), drinks and attractions (dance floor, or karaoke), etc. I know its only a minigame, but it gets a bit too repetitive after a while. It could be a full game by itself.

[@maniacaudiophile]

@@Joe90h i need that Golden Kiryu

[@garetheggleston7807]

I love the fact you guys are back together

[@Cloud92390]

The FF7 snowboarding game was amazing. I spent way too much time playing it in the gold saucer and loved every bit of it.

[@verneppard8149]

It's the only part that my sisters would play when we were younger

[@Wuderify]

Yes I loved it and done it first try easy

[@JabRok86]

I wholeheartedly agree, Mike needs to have words, tho I suspect he was being this. Maybe Luke was just annoyed he couldn't practice at the gold saucer first

[@cloudstrife1983]

Me too.

[@zacharyward4776]

Plus Fort Condor was the real monster

[@CandidOrphan]

There are SO MANY PS2-era minigames that fit this category, but the first ones that come to my mind are the vehicle minigames from Sly Cooper 1 and the fishing minigame from Jak and Daxter, as they were especially annoying.

[@andymcp4752]

So Apollo Justice activates his magic contracting bracelet.. causing him to stare intensely through narrow tunnel vision with colours swirling in the background? That’s either perceive mode.. or the bracelet is too tight and cutting off blood flow

[@MrIcePho3nix]

It's also specifically cutting blood flow to his head, meaning his heart's gotta be in his hand somehow.

[@paperip1996]

"How are you all able to figure out these convoluted murders executed by expert liars with genius plans???" Phoenix: Ghosts help me see the truth of things Apollo: A magic bracelet clues me in to a person's emotions Edgeworth: ...I apply logic and critical thinking

[@LadyOnikara]

@@paperip1996 Godot: I throw coffee at people Franziska: I whip people

[@nightmarethrenody8232]

So Apollo just stares at people’s body parts intently while slowly turning purple? Sounds disconcerting.

[@RamadaArtist]

"Singing along to the victory fanfare." Ah yes, just like Lucille Ball would do: "Dat dada da da doot dat ta da!"

[@Randomninja47]

How dare Yakuza 0's cabaret club end up on here. I love that mini-game and spent so much time on it. I would play a mobile version of that game.

[@lnsflare1]

Is Dinner Dash still available?

[@amyb546]

I really loved the snowboarding in FF7 at the time, so much so I went and bought 1080 Snowboarding soon afterwards xD

[@0ngchaay]

For me, cabaret mini-game is the best mini-game in Yakuza series. No idea how it's in this list. I also was very happy when I knew Sega bought it back in Yakuza 2 kiwami.

[@little1big1planet]

I flipping love that mini game spent like 30+ on that shit

[@mrcraggle]

I spent well over 120 hours in Yakuza 0 alone. The cabaret part was great. It was surprisingly in-depth.

[@noahvassar3405]

Yeah I love it too but I hated it at first…wait a second do I actually like it or is it just Stockholm syndrome?

[@TysonPuppy08]

I don't mind the hacking in Cyberpunk, but I loathe the story related Brain Dance where you have to scope out the penthouse. Such a pain.

[@GetGoodGirl1561]

I was with you until Y0’s entry, the Cabaret Club mini game is so fun. I think it’s more fun in Kiwami 2 but I will not stand for this Cabaret Club mini game slander.

[@sykotech]

I loved the Cabaret club so much. I played that mode long after the side story was over. It was just so much fun.

[@joeblow5214]

EOD is one of the most frustrating jobs in the military from what I was told. The upside is you get trained to play with explosives in a relatively safe manner down side is the enemy puts IEDs in some of the worst spots and they way they are often slapped together is always fascinating, frightening, and frustrating.

[@marhawkman303]

also the penalty for failing the mini-game is "severe"....

[@coyoteone6197]

On the other hand, the typical method of disabling the explosive is with another, different explosion. :D

[@marhawkman303]

@@coyoteone6197 yeah "blow it in place" is quite common.

[@octopusinatophat6814]

I would like to thank Andy for making me realize that I have been trained to do something when yelled at. I jumped and started to sit up to click something at the end of the video.

[@ShadianVise]

Lol, I did the whole storyline of the cabaret club in both Y0 and YK2 (which is virtually identical) and enjoyed it the whole time.

[@00blaat00]

Oh God, I just remembered the lockpicking mechanism in Bioshock. You know, with the pipes. Welp, calling the therapist again...

[@cysero36]

Final Fantasy 9 Card game. At one point you have to win 3 games of the card game which doesn't sound so bad until you realize that if you lose, the opponent takes one of your cards which will most likely result in you loading your last save over and over until you win.

[@angryeevee9243]

And the rules to that card game are totally bonkers compared to 8's Triple Triad which at least made sense

[@annana6098]

I love ff9, but when they introduced the card game to me I didn't really care for it and ignored it. I don't really remember, do they force you into playing it later? I feel like I would get royally stuck at that point, so if they did, I probably save scummed my way through it.

[@annana6098]

@@angryeevee9243 I'm glad I'm not the only one who found it difficult to follow. I'm sure I could pick it up now if I cared enough, I'm sure there's online help for how to beat it. I didn't have internet when I was trying to power through it the first time.

[@cysero36]

@@annana6098 After the Iifa tree and just before the Alexander scene. I would be a bit more descriptive if it wasn't for some spoilers.

[@midorisetsuna7334]

That card game is RNG based, thats not an exaggeration at all. I actually used an emulator to rewind the game and played the exact same card in the same spot against the same creature and had different results and even then it was in such a weird way, my opponents card had less defense points and my card had the same attack points the second time around but my attack failed where it succeeded before, the third round made it even weirder

[@will493]

As someone who is, at this very moment, playing KotOR, I am shocked that this list didn't include "INCOMING FIGHTERS!"

[@kalythai]

Wait the FF7 snowboarding was bad? How about the mandatory Submarine Battle? Or the mandatory Fort Condor RTS game? Those two are cumbersome and failing will cause you to lose out on Huge Materia from the sub minigame and potentially so in Fort Condor and you are forced to a boss battle instead. The snowboard is a neusense but it didn't permanently lock you out of content and loot like Fort Condor and that Submarine Battle.

[@Gleamings]

Ugh yeah, the submarine thing was baaaad

[@Kartissa]

Personally, I had no problem with the Submarine Battle, and the key to the Fort Condor game is to simply let the enemy walk to the top and then fight a standard battle against a not-that-tough lvl 37 'boss.' (Which drops one of the game's 3 Imperial Guard armour, incidentally - you don't get it if you win the mini-game properly.)

[@SomeCallMeCasey]

I enjoyed all of them….

[@erichansen2999]

That RE:4 tile puzzle is incredibly easy, one of the quickest in the game. None of the puzzles in that game are great, but that one is by far the quickest to solve.

[@noticeme6412]

I liked the puzzles in RE 2 the most tbh

[@Michael_Lindell]

What do you call a tiny bull? A Minitaur.

[@deepmind5318]

"nice work fixing the climate. Let us know how you did it" Best line from the entire thing

[@Jabogers]

You take that back about the cabaret minigames! Those were actually fun!

[@fakebobbyhill296]

I love the Yakuza Cabarets. What was my bane until I decided to just learn it was the Mahjong. Of course now I enjoy mahjong.

[@drewworth1568]

I can't believe Andy slandered that cabaret club mini-game. That was the best mini-game in Yakuza 0! And only a passing mention of Kiryu's terrible real estate mini-game, the real travesty of that game!

[@lnsflare1]

The real estate mini game would have been drastically improved by letting you manage your properties at any phone rather than having to go back into the office each time you wanted to do anything with it.

[@drewworth1568]

@@lnsflare1 100% agree with that

[@johnwrath3612]

I've only played Like a Dragon all the way through, and I really liked the business management minigame. Once you figure it out, it's a cakewalk. But without a guide, it seems like its really complex and confusing. But it's definitely irritating to have to walk back to the office every time.

[@yugoprowers]

Chrono Trigger : Run around the room 3 times, that all it ask but it sometimes has problems detecting that you have done this. Back in the day if no one told you, you didn't know that you should walk real slow pressing hard against the walls all three times, and this took way longer than it should have.

[@fredrikgranath7154]

I will often go into my Premium adventure save files of both Y0 and Kiwami 2 to specifically play the Cabaret club mini games. It's almost like meditation to help the various hostesses with their clients demands.

[@ivyadair]

Same. I would buy it immediately they made a standalone version of it.

[@petercalvin5710]

Blitzball definitely belongs in here. I always dread it every playthrough.

[@BJGvideos]

I was loving FFX until that point. Mandatory Blitzball killed any enjoyment it was giving me.

[@Bbbbbbbbbbhhhhhhh]

Blitzball was a strange one, I hated it at first but when I started putting time into it and actually going around and hiring people for my squad it actually becomes really fun, and the mandatory blitzball matches are simple as hell if you have a good squad and have competed in the other matches and tournaments etc. I think it’s just something that starts off really difficult and the AI can be stupid sometimes. Really though, it becomes a lot easier.

[@KirbyatYT]

I can see why these aren’t on here, since they aren’t really minigames, but I still feel like one of the Pokémon gym puzzles could have been on here. And if those aren’t obnoxious enough, there’s also the ninja house from paper mario : the origami king

[@aardbei54]

Most of the ones outside of Kanto aren't as obnoxiously bad as the ones on the list, though. However, Lt. Surge and Koga can suck it

[@Poochyena23]

Remember Trick House in the Hoenn Region? always amusing, especially if you didn't have the right movesets...least you got items for finishing it though

[@shawnfields2369]

@@aardbei54 I COMPLETELY agree. F**k Lt. Surge and Koga. I hate surge with his stupid random trashcan switch finding and matching bs, and Koga with his invisible wall bs too. The 2 worst gyms in Pokemon history. Plus, in the Pokemon manga, both Lt. Surge and Koga are revealed to be PART of the original Team Rocket! So that might explain why they have the 2 worst gyms in Kanto, and just generally in Pokemon's history. Now with that being said, Lt. Surge, and Koga, we only got 2... words... for ya! SUCK IT!! Sorry, but I had to.

[@KirbyatYT]

Is it bad that I didn’t have any trouble with LT surge’s gym? (In Lgpe)

[@shawnfields2369]

@@KirbyatYT No, not really. Everyone's got different experiences with Lt. Surge's gym. And you played "Let's Go, Eevee", and not "Let's Go, Pikachu", dude/lady? Well, Surge and Koga are both secret members of the criminal organization known as Team Rocket.Most of the Kanto gym leaders are secret Team Rocket agents. Sabrina, Koga, Lt. Surge, Giovanni, and I think Blaine? But not Misty, or Brock, or Erica, I believe. Which probably explains why most of the Kanto gyms and their leaders are annoying as hell...

[@mandoschMUh]

Yup, that sliding tile puzzle was a pain. Funnily enough I managed to do it in my first run quite quickly, when I really didn't think about it very hard. Second playthrough...not so lucky xD

[@patrickbohn5235]

I kinda enjoyed the cabaret club management tho

[@VocalFox94]

I vividly remember frightening my childhood cat on at least one of my attempts at the Taris Swoop Race.

[@NocturnalDecay]

Since you guys mentioned Ace Attorney, I have to mention the OTHER deeply bizarre crime-solving game with a frustrating minigame worked into its trials: Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair and its godforsaken "Improved" Hangman's Gambit.

[@cactustactics]

also: snowboarding, in cyberspace!

[@caiholroyd178]

The Danganronpa games break my heart. I solved the damn crime, why am I making a comic book now? Are my classmates so dumb that they need pictures to understand how stabbing someone works?

[@cactustactics]

@@caiholroyd178 aww I like the comic book thing - it's not like you're drawing one, you're just piecing the narrative together. I feel like the deductive stuff is more involved than like the Ace Attorney series, but some of the arcade minigames are pretty damn filler bs

[@paperip1996]

I had successfully forgotten all about that! Almost as annoying as the car driving one in 3.

[@siobhanlawper1051]

Oh God, I love the Danganronpa games but the mini games are just something else.

[@jerbar1280]

In Dark Cloud 2 there was a golf mini game that you had to do once, then you could choose to do it for each map to get some great prizes. Some of the areas were great to play golf in, wide open terrain, few obstacles, and not many places to get the dreaded "off course". But then there was the channels under the first town where it was "off course" so many times that I started reading it as "of course". That area had short corridors, random angles on the walls to bounce off of, and along every wall there was a water hazard that was, sometimes, impossible not to fall into.

[@FlamingoSandwich]

I love that Luke said nearly every hacking mini game of the early 20th century sucked ; I totally agree all the soldiers in the trenches in WW1 trying to ward off the fear of imminent death by hitting beams with sticks i.e. hacking at them would agree that it was very boring indeed !

[@Manyxe]

I just spent fifteen minutes learning how to solve any sliding tile puzzle and I still don't think they're any fun or that I gained any useful knowledge.

[@tba113]

Andy's fashion sense checks out. Dressing like a vampire lord is a power play in any situation. That said, I understand most prosecutors favor a more understated gold braid on their capes and cloaks, rather than epaulets. Maybe the long fringe is more of a Japanese legal tradition.

[@connorburton1009]

I actually love most of these mini games, but wierd interrupting gameplay styles are kind of my jam. Especially with me being one of the very few people who enjoyed the wierd hacking minigame halfway through Fallout 4 Far Harbor.

[@SamJ.J.]

I love minigames that aren't mandatory.

[@javierortiz82]

the Cyberpunk minigame wasn't that hard, but the thing about it is that to be really good at it and have nice effects in battle you need to do some upgrading first.

[@Artificer1911]

You just needed to plan your route before activating the first one, but the upgrades help, too. :)

[@vladdracul5072]

@@Artificer1911 Right, once I figured that out it was fun and I hacked every machine I came across.

[@spooky_electric]

The Cabaret Club minigame is literally the place I dropped Zero. I was loving it up until that point, but I did the Real Estate minigame, which was a grind, but really simple. Plug money into buildings, fight boss, profit. With the Cabaret Club, it was reliant on whether you did all the sidequests or not, and unlike say Judgment or Like A Dragon, those subquests weren't always on the map so it was easy to miss them. Which, if you missed them, you didn't get the best hostesses and it's hard to beat the bosses in Cabaret battles. I didn't want to skip it and move on with the story because completing both minigames is how you unlocked both Kiryu and Majima's ultimate fighting styles, so I just ended up dropping it altogether.