Overcoming Pain w/ Whole Body Vibration

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[@palomahealing5073]

I just started today after getting my vibration plate in the mail, and after just 7 minutes, didn't even finish the 10 min session? And I felt my legs totally throughout for the first time in like, 20 years +😳 I also felt total control of my muscles too! And that was just on the Gentle level? I'm going to stay on the Gentle level for 2 weeks. Then I'll slowly increase it. I've been totally Sedentary for like 20 years from torn Meniscus in both knees from falls and Car accidents.😐

[@painfixprotocol]

Yes. Training with Whole Body Vibration is very challenging. It's important to ease into your new fitness routine - go slow, be consistent and make sure to take rest days (away from vibration) each week.

[@jeansroses7249]

I have chronically sprained s.i. joints. I heard somewhere that wbv is not good for those with joint issues/pain; what's the deal with that?

[@PainterLady]

Active traction? What was it you said? What did you put on your head? I have a Power Plate Move now. I need to get rid of body pain. The worst is in my back shoulders and neck. My entire back. My knee replacements even hurt.

[@paulliston5132]

Where can I buy it

[@painfixprotocol]

Here the link, Paul - powerplate.com/painfix

[@janicealderson4329]

I can hardly afford this but can buy in installments from Amazon - what though do you think of the Power Plate compact - it is a bit cheaper at 2,289 euros, I am a small female (I am in France).

[@painfixprotocol]

Hi Janice, I think the compact version is great option for people who don't have a lot of space.

[@mariannewebb6232]

Can you use it if you have a plate and 16 screws in your leg? Many thanks , Marianne

[@painfixprotocol]

Good question, Marianne. Unfortunately, there are no studies to my knowledge that have tested this. The closest thing I've seen is this study that compared WBV with a traditional exercise protocol following ACL reconstruction and had good results: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25177185/. It would be best to check with your surgeon.

[@mariannewebb6232]

@@painfixprotocol Thank you for getting back to me. I did read the reference. I'll ask my daughter to enquire. It would be good if she could as she has lymphoedema.

[@lydiariley4370]

Bay make things so difficult. How do I buy this machine and what is the price. I looked everywhere and I can't find it because they're too busy showing dr. Yanni written and how to do his. I am interested in purchasing the machine but I want to know how to buy it and how much it cost

[@painfixprotocol]

Here you go, Lydia. This link talks more about Whole Body Vibration and my preferred WBV machine: painfixprotocol.com/fast-track-your-fitness/

[@chuckcochran6439]

What about Clinton Rubin’s (PhD, SUNY) interview with Margaret Martin? Totally against the concept-unless of course you’re using their recommended LIV machine.

[@painfixprotocol]

Good question, Chuck. I intend to make a video addressing some of Dr. Rubin's claims. Hope you'll stay tuned for that.

[@dianawhitehouse8101]

How soon after spinal fractures may the device be safe to use?

[@painfixprotocol]

Good question, Diana. I haven't seen a study that deals with this topic directly. It would depend on multiple factors: fracture type and severity, fitness level, age, volume, type and intensity of vibration to name a few. The best thing to do would be to check with your doctor and get clearance from him/her before proceeding.

[@VisorGirl]

I am very interested in purchasing a WBV device but….I have severe spinal stenosis from L2 to S1, get 3 spinal epidural pain blocks per year and on several pain meds daily. Is WBV safe for me?

[@painfixprotocol]

Hard to say without more information, VisorGirl. I'm not aware of any research on WBV & spinal stenosis. It would be best to check with your doctor before proceeding with WBV.

[@dragonflymusings]

Is this twisting ok for a ruptured disc at hip level?

[@painfixprotocol]

Good question. Typically, with a disc problem the main concern is increasing stability (not so much mobility). But keep in mind, with a very specific problem it's best to work one-on-one with a qualified rehab professional in your area.

[@dragonflymusings]

@@painfixprotocol went through physical therapy. Wasn't ever told this. Thanks so much.

[@SariahMansoer]

Just wondering. I am having pain in my pelvic floor for 3 years now, which prevends me from sitting and leaves me to stand for 9-10 hours a day. Even lying down hurts. None excercises, fysiotherapy or botoxoline surgery or meds has worked so far. The only temporarily solutions that helps is walking for hours, but as soon as I try to sit down or lie down the pain returns. Can a vibration plate help to release the tension in the pelvic floor area?

[@painfixprotocol]

So sorry to hear about your painful situation. A whole vibration plate is a great tool, but it's not ideally suited for releasing the pelvic floor. I do have a video on pelvic floor dysfunction that may be beneficial for you - kzbin.info/www/bejne/j53IZpxqi86HgdU

[@SariahMansoer]

@@painfixprotocol Thank you so much for your reply and sharing the link to the pelvic floor dysfunction video. I'll check it out immediately.

[@supportadmin7735]

@@SariahMansoer Rebounding and trampolines have been great to gently loosen and stregthen the pelvic floor. i combine them with a powerplate for great results

[@SariahMansoer]

@@supportadmin7735 thanks for the tip. Will definitely try that as well. 🙏

[@Candleflower42]

Hi Yoni, googling to see if my vibrating machine could have caused vertigo ( not just dizziness but disabling vertigo) I didn’t see anything re that but did see that if a person has any screws nails etc they shouldn’t use them as they can cause them to migrate. I broke my femur 6 months ago and have nails and screws in now so have a note in to my doctor. I’ll be very disappointed if I can’t use it but seems there are some contradictions to using them.

[@painfixprotocol]

@Candleflower42 - Certainly there are conditions and instances where WBV is not the right fit for an individual. However, the post-surgical data on hip replacement & knee reconstruction (like this systematic review of 10 studies) is overwhelmingly positive - www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2020/7362069/. Of course, surgeries vary widely from one person to the next as does the health/quality of the tissues used for anchoring surgical hardware. A person should ALWAYS check with their doctor before attempting a new exercise or fitness routine. I wasn't able to any studies on WBV and vertigo but there is a single case report that was published back in 2009. You can see that here: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20003605/

[@Candleflower42]

@@painfixprotocol Thanks Yoni! I’ll send the study to my femur surgeon - could be he hasn’t come across this question. If he gives the ok I think re the vertigo the only way to tell is to slowly get back on at a low vibration and see what happens. I was operated on 11 years ago for superior canal dehiscence and have a hole in my other ear which muddies the waters, not knowing if possibly the plate has caused it to become symptomatic. The vertigo is gone but at times am having the same weird feeling I had pre op with the other ear. Thanks for taking the time to reply and sending that info. Betsy

[@PainterLady]

I've been using my power plate MOVE and I have total knee replacements in both knees and a plate and screws in my left wrist from a shattered wrist and I've had no issues with those things. Hopefully the vertigo will eventually ease up and go away. It may be just that your body isn't used to this new therapy. Also you may be right about the hole in your one ear beginning to be aggravated and perhaps that will dissipate over time because your body is adjusting to a new therapy

[@Candleflower42]

@@PainterLady thanks for your input Pam. My orthopedic surgeon seemed to think it was ok as far as the femur repair but I’m still leery of the ear so have not been on it again. Also, recently heard a lady Sarah Meeks on the Brad and Bob KZbin channel talking about osteoporosis and she uses a Marodyne low intensity vibration plate. Looked at their website and they make it sound as if the whole body plates are fraught with danger, even the Power Plate, so I don’t know who or what to believe.

[@PainterLady]

@@Candleflower42 Wow. It's crazy. I don't know what to believe either! So many people swear by them for pain reduction. I thought I was buying the best. I pray I didn't make such an expensive mistake. Good luck to you 🙏

[@amyrosato9213]

Doesn't look feasible post cervical fusion, huh?

[@painfixprotocol]

Good question, Amy. Fusions can differ pretty significantly from one to the next. My suggestion would be to discuss this with your surgeon.

[@zoezschokke1122]

would it be loud in an apartment

[@painfixprotocol]

The noise varies significantly from one unit to the next. The Power Plate is one of the most quiet machines I've used. A thick rubber mat under the machine can also be used to dampen the sound significantly.

[@horaciogomez4368]

I did not see the document. Clicked on all the links. Maybe I did not look hard enough?

[@painfixprotocol]

Here you go: painfixprotocol.com/fast-track-your-fitness/

[@horaciogomez4368]

@@painfixprotocol thank you!

[@francesfries7]

Question: I do stand up on the plate for 15 or 20 minutes at 32 but the last 4 or 5 minutes I get down and put my arms on it then after that I get terrible pain on my shoulders ... why is that?

[@painfixprotocol]

Without an examination it's difficult to say. But if you get terrible pain in shoulders after that one position, you might consider skipping that position because it sounds like your body doesn't like it.

[@dragonflymusings]

Is this twisting ok for a ruptured disc?

[@mikefinley4367]

Pinched nerves, dpinal injuries, disc compression ...this can yrigger massive pain. Kust the vintation of yrucks driving by and the floor vinrating yriggers mt spinal problems dropping me to the floor. The jolt is not something you eant to experience.

[@painfixprotocol]

Sorry to hear about your condition. Therapeutic vibration and inadvertent exposure to vibration are two very different things.