Overview of the Orient Mako and Ray II Wristwatches - The Affordable Diver

In today's video, we take a look at the Orient Mako and Ray II wristwatches. These are the generation 2 models, which include the Orient 22 jewel automatic F69 movement. This upgraded movement has hand winding and hacking capability (seconds hand stops when you set the time).
The video covers the 5 base models of the series, including the Ray Raven which is the PVD (black coating) version of the Black Ray.
At under $200, these are extremely affordable divers that look great in any environment, and at the end of the video we will show you how to change the look of the watch with a strap change, and transform it into something new.
To see the Orient Mako and Rays at our store, please visit: longislandwatc...

[@iltc9734]

These videos are not only informative, but they have enormous authenticity and genuine charm. Great work Mark. You're the real deal. Simon. Melbourne Australia.

[@stevenrowell156]

Don't set Day Date when actual time is between 9 PM and 3 AM - great advice.

[@islandwatch]

Indeed!

[@gratengelsker7614]

Steven Rowell What happens?

[@SpinThisCoupe]

Why ? I just did it :O

[@kb-kl3so]

Long Island Watch what happens?

[@WWJimbo]

Kelvin Baas It can damage it.

[@OhioEDC]

I've been having a difficult time choosing whether to go with an SKX or Ray II for my next watch. This video sealed the deal: Ray II gets the nod. It appeared that this was a fun shoot for you, too. Outstanding work, Mark!

[@JettyLife23]

Matt I like the beveled bezel insert on the orient. It looks more expensive than the more flat one on the skx. How are you liking the watch?

[@AR-rk9nn]

Orient’s movement is hacking and handwinding which is so much less of a pain than the SKXs ancient 7S26 movement. The fit and finish seems better on the orients as well but aren’t ISO divers. But who really takes their mechanical watch diving...

[@AR-rk9nn]

Plus the bezel is so much more solid than the skx

[@jamespennacchini2128]

@Timothy Mckee Nowhere near to correct. Seiko and Orient are both owned by the same company. That's it

[@jamespennacchini2128]

@Timothy Mckee They make their movements in house.

[@Knightlore10]

The Orient Blue Ray 2 is one of my favourite watches with so many things to like. The strong lume, sleek case design and size is perfect for me. If Orient would make a Ray 2 Pro with sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel and higher quality bracelet, it would be a strong Steinhart competitor that I would buy.

[@islandwatch]

Maybe that will happen.

[@jayanthkumar7964]

I think you got your wish fulfilled with the Orient Kamasu.

[@DD-ix3bm]

Longisland watch now sells the ray 2 with their own updated sapphire crystal installed plus a strapcode bracelet. That's one option or you can buy a double domed sapphire crystal from crystal times and replace it yourself!

[@robertbeirne9813]

hawks nw Crystaltimes is currently sold out on domed sapphire for the Ray. Pretty sure Mark bought them all.

[@greg6162]

@@DD-ix3bm I thought the Kamasu comes with a sapphire crystal already… what’s updated about it?

[@OctavianDunare]

Mainly because of this video I bought the blue Ray II. Gorgeous timepiece. Love it.

[@ayushdxt]

I'm confused between blue and black Ray II. Which one would you suggest? Does the blue look good in person?

[@DwyaneWadeCounty]

@@ayushdxt I need to know too, because I bought many items online, and when they arrived, they look totally different than in pictures.

[@ayushdxt]

@@DwyaneWadeCounty I got the blue one and it looks better than the pictures imo

[@bengenebernardo8437]

This is the kind of review I want to see. Good job on showing us different looks.

[@mollydooka17]

Great review, and confirms I made the right decision ordering the black Ray II (model FAA02004B9) yesterday from Amazon Australia, arriving today! We don't have much choice here in Oz, with no local Orient distributor. Paid a bit of a premium compared to US prices, but 24-hour turnaround delivered to the door in the middle of lockdown justifies the extra bucks. Couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention (I think, FF'd the video 😉) the shortcomings that other reviewers harp on about, viz: the small difficult to operate crown, and the "cheap" hollow bracelet. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised...

[@photobouph]

Debating between the black and blue Ray II but the way you talk about the blue I’m leaning towards that, great video!

[@guilhermenunes7439]

I loved this black version... I'm gonna starting saving for it! Great review!

[@mollydooka17]

Update, the Ray II arrived this morning! Less than 24 hours from order 🤩 Beautiful watch, and I'm happy to report that the bezel and crown are both easy to move with my small fingers, contrary to what some reviewers have suggested

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

Did you buy the blue or the black ray

[@MarcraM82]

Mark, I watched your chapter ring tutorial fix on the skx007. I did this to my own watch and fixed it perfectly. I thank you for this. Although I didn't buy this watch through you a while ago, my next purchase will be through your store. Cheers from Melbourne, Australia

[@jinglemyberries866]

Your videos are excellent sir. You are doing a great service for people who are interested in watches, thank you very much.

[@manny7886]

Just ordered today the Blue Ray II after I received my SKX175. Got them both at Long Island Watch of course. The SKX175 came in 3 days after I put in my order. Good service.

[@waynemarkc6862]

Just bought a Mako 2....this is an excellent review...

[@waynedowney7616]

Just ordered the Ray II with blue face from you guys yesterday. Saw it originally on the Urban Gentry channel and thought it was great. Can't wait for it to show up. I'll probably watch this video a couple more times this week while I wait for my new watch to arrive. Thanks for showing how it looks with a couple different NATO straps. Probably gonna go with a black and silver to start, but I did like the black/silver/blue combo. They're cheap enough I can do both.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@NanDrummer]

Huge props for this excellent review , and the fantastic side by side comparisons. To the point , yet no stone left unturned.

[@islandwatch]

Appreciated.

[@kingocho1674]

I bought ray 2 black dial 3 days ago. All my need for the watch is in ray 2. I'm happy to own this watch.

[@craigwthomson]

Helpful video. I have a small line up of affordable divers within a larger collection. I’m thinking of purchasing my first Orient but was a bit uncertain of the differences between these models. You’ve helped make up my mind. Many thanks 😊

[@FoAmY99]

I'm bidding on a Ray 2 black dial on ebay right now. Looks beautiful, and vidoes like this, have only further convinced me further I'm getting a great deal

[@greghemlock6679]

If I didn't already have 3 dive watches I'd surely buy this or the mako. Love the blue. I bought the invicta blue with the seiko movement yellow spinner. Boy what a mistake that was! Filled with water in the pool first time out.

[@thetylife]

I guess you're talking about the Invicta Pro Diver. I have the same watch in black. Did you screw down the crown before going in the pool?

[@DwyaneWadeCounty]

@@thetylife He probably did not screw the crown down. Let me ask. I'm looking for a beautiful watch. You have an Invicta Pro Diver. Do you have a Ray ll or Seiko snkl23? If you do, how do they compare to the Invicta in terms of looks?

[@jasperlorenzo3102]

Thanks to this video.. I decided and ordered Blue Ray II.. next will be the Mako 3

[@HarryUnchained]

It's funny these watches have never seen a huge price increase from 10 years ago. Had the first gen mako for like $110 10 years ago and I shocked to see that the price for these new gen watches are around $130 today. That's crazy value right there.

[@Ratselmeister]

This is just the USD loosing value. Sorry for that. 😐

[@ARMYRIFLES46]

@@Ratselmeister inflation increases prices so the fact that its the same price is still great

[@hgr.7857]

🤫 Lets not make too much noise about the comically low prices of these great watches...

[@ITR994]

Thanks so much Marc. I've been binge watching your videos for a few months now. I appreciate the close ups and watches that you feature, up and down the price range. After much deliberation purchased my first Orient. a B L U E ray 2. I too am crazed about blue dials.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@Jopup5]

I totally agree Justin, the first day i saw that dial, i fell in love. Lusted about it for 3 months before finally ordering one. So so pretty

[@rmoraespinto]

Hey, Mark, excellent and thorough review. Apart from that, it is great to see the gentleman who sold me two of the watches that I enjoy most -- both from SEIKO. Congrats!

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@SmokinBriar]

Just bought the Mako ii from you, and I LOVE IT! Great watch for the money and the blue is outstanding! Thanks for the great service too!

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@davidhalbleib2467]

I have a blue 1st Gen Mako with a Pepsi bezel which always makes it's rounds in my rotation, and I bought my stepson a Blue Ray 2 as a highschool graduation present. After checking out his watch I'm thinking about getting a raven and a 007 style nato strap. Thanks for the video!

[@dielreis]

After this video it becomes too hard for me to choose! Nice, better, the definitive video about this Orient. Thanks a lot!

[@respatitapser2031]

Greetings from a (new) fellow WUS member. Just ordered blue mako ii from you this afternoon and i cant wait for it to arrive.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks; been on WUS for well over a decade now!

[@GarrySkipPerkins]

I bought a Ray Raven II from Long Island watches and love it. I have bought two other Orients from there as well. I did swap out the straps of all of them for better ones. The Ray 2 looks great on a NATO.

[@carlosgonzalez7204]

Garry Perkins I want to raven and the black ray. Are they too similar looking? Do you have both?

[@GarrySkipPerkins]

@@carlosgonzalez7204 No. The dial is the same, but one has a black PVD-coated case and bracelet, while the standard has an un-coated stainless steel case and bracelet (silver-looking). The difference is that one is silver and one is black. Pick the one you like. I beat the crap out of mine for years, and it looks great, but I have always had mine on a bond NATO strap (bluShark). I just like NATO's. Either one is a great watch for the money. That said, I would recommend that you save up for more expensive (and easier to sell) watches. This is a great beater, but do not buy a bunch of $300-$1000 watches. If you need to sell them you will lose a ton of money. Buy one now, and save money for a few years and buy a nice watch you can sell if you are in trouble (like a Tudor). I hope this virus business does not repeat, but trust me, liquidity is your friend.

[@robw3027]

Excellent rundown I thought. Raven for this guy- wish they made that in a Mako.

[@sleepinglysithia]

Thanks Mark. Excellent video as always. I have the blue Ray II that I bought from you about a month ago and I love it. It's a great value for the money and the blue color is awesome.

[@MrRdrcr]

That ray raven is sick. Just bought it on your site. Can't go wrong at that price. Thanks for the great and informative videos Marc. :)

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@MBernhardt03]

Great Great Great! This is exactly what I was asking for, more more more! Thanks Mark.

[@islandwatch]

Great, glad you enjoyed.

[@utkn]

I can't decide between the Mako and the Ray, I love the Pepsi Mako, but I prefer the dial on the Ray, the digit-less one looks so nice to me, but I love the Pepsi bezel so much. I might just go with the Ray and somehow mod the bezel lol. Great, great video, thanks for the advice about setting the date! I wouldn't have known otherwise.

[@kmf1392]

If you purchase from longislandwatch, if you go to "custom watches" you can essentially build an Orient. I got a Ray with a pepsi bezel and a sapphire crystal. Looks great for some more money. Definitely worth it in my opinion.

[@utkn]

@@kmf1392 I'd do that, unfortunately I'm from Europe, so the shipping would ramp the price up a decent bit.

[@craik26]

Loved it! Very nice that you show the different combinations with the straps, really good video as always, Mark!! Best Regards. Alex Craik from Los Angeles, California.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for checking it out Alex!

[@Fluticus]

What a great video. Thanks Mark. Gorgeous watches. I gotta get online and get me one. I want all 5 but if I have to settle for one, it’s the blue ray.

[@mdesmet9111]

I just ordered the Mako II in blue from your shop, so can't wait until it arrives. Took me ages to decide between the Mako and the Ray but in the end I just liked the Mako a little better. Still love the Ray too, so I'll probably end up buying that too.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@sealevelbear]

Are you gonna get different colors?

[@jancovanderwesthuizen8070]

Just ordered a Seiko SNK809 as my first ever mechanical watch, but I think I already know what's coming next :D

[@AudiowaveTV]

LOL! I was warned as well that my Seiko SNK809 wouldn't be my last watch....."its starts very innocently as a Seiko SNK809......"

[@hgr.7857]

Orient really *nails* that deep blue sunburst dial. Looks so nice I bought it twice (the Mako II: one to keep factory spec, one to mod into something a bit more vintage, FF style). Now I'm here for the Raven footage 👀 EDIT: I have my modded blue Mako II on that same black/grey/blue NATO!!! (21:45) Such a clean look, with the deep blue dial and a *touch* of the same on the strap. I love wearing it that way and do so often. Thanks for anither great video, Marc 💯

[@chuckybehm]

Just got my blue ray 2 in the post thanx Mark your vid helped me with my decision it arrived sooner than expected thanx again long island. Nz

[@islandwatch]

Great, thank you!

[@DwyaneWadeCounty]

Does it look better in person? I'm contemplating between Ray ll and Seiko Snkl23.

[@mikko3808]

Great video. Really showed the different options, also solidified the blue Ray II for my first diver with some sweet nato straps.

[@sealevelbear]

I keep circling back to this one. Seiko has lost me, but perhaps Orient is about to catch me!

[@thistleclockworks1292]

Mark, I had the SKX013 on the short list (I still covet that watch), but I saw the Ray Raven in this video and I’ve been convinced that the Orient needs to be the top diver on my list. Keep up the great work!

[@thegit8698]

I have a bond strap on my Seiko SNZG15J1 that has a satin finish case and it looks fantastic, i used to be only interested in a watch if it had a stainless steel bracelet but at the moment I'm mad about the one piece NATO straps, i would really like to get a diver watch next when i can afford one and i might go for the Orient ray, I'm glad you did the strap change on the video, it shows what options are available to change the look of the watch, i loved the mesh strap and the funny thing is i used to hate them and NATO straps

[@bmw128racer]

Great thorough review of the two Orient watches... I'm leaning towards a blue Ray II. Can't decide if I want the rubber or metal band version, though.

[@ryanamontos]

I bought the ray ii and mako ii after watching this video. Thanks a lot Marc

[@islandwatch]

Much appreciated.

[@nathanielraines]

I really wish this watch and other watch companies would put an applied lume indice at the 3 O'clock position. The skx 173 , sne 107 ,sne 109 and sne 245 are great examples to be looked at.

[@JurasPriest]

Great content...... Intention: Watch it to decide wheter the Mako or the Ray should be my next watch. Well, not it's even harder to decide. I'd love to have one with black and one with blue dial as well, so... ahhh, it's not getting better. I could finally end up with 4 watches. :D

[@JurasPriest]

Ah, finally! Blue Ray, black Mako!

[@bryanc237]

JurasPriest I’ve decided on black ray and blue mako for myself haha

[@carlosgonzalez7204]

I feel your pain. I have the blue ray 2 and want the black one plus the Raven!

[@JurasPriest]

@@carlosgonzalez7204 Update. Bought the black Ray first. One year later a used blue Ray with sapphire and an Strapcode Oyster bracelet. Super sweeeet watches!

[@carlosgonzalez7204]

JurasPriest Awesome! How do you feel about the Raven 2? I want that one in the collection eventually too.

[@rickt.223]

Really great video. I learned a lot about the differences between the two Orient models. The Ray II in blue for me. Thanks!

[@johna.6725]

Great detailed video! Answers most questions in mind when deciding which one to buy.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@jK-zv7nk]

Damn I’m going to need one of each color now! Nice review dude!

[@excelsiortrading8050]

(It's wholly owned by Seiko now) Orient Watch is a brand name of the Seiko Epson Corporation used for the designs, manufacture and marketing of watches. Until April 2007, it was a wholly owned sub-subsidiary of the corporation known as the Orient Watch Company, Limited (オリエント時計株式会社 Oriento Tokei Kabushikigaisha).[2] It was founded in Hino, Tokyo, Japan (13 July 1950). From 2001, it was a subsidiary of the corporation (the one of three core companies of the Seiko Group) and became a wholly owned subsidiary in 2009 [3] until the company was dissolved and its assets absorbed by its parent company.

[@tonyh4233]

MARK, I bought a Black Ray Raven ll and Blue Raven ll and noticed the the all black Ray Raven has smaller hands and lume pip indicies, I can also see it in your video, anyone else noticed or has both for comparison??

[@hellboy1976]

I've finally come around to wanting one of these watches (I'm a Seiko guy). The mineral crystal doesn't thrill me, but the watch is a beaut. Great review as always!

[@jackthompson8377]

Raven on camo nylon strap also looks great

[@swabby429]

The Black Raven is mighty tempting.

[@supermash1]

I like the "Darth Vader" version. And you're right you should be required to buy the black nylon strap with it!

[@zakirhussainshaikh6372]

Very good i like, i am planning to purchase both mako and ray raven, there is also in orange dial

[@legendsend3520]

Great video i needed exactly something like this to make up my mind. I think i want a rey.. now just need to make up my mind on the colour! Both gorgeous watches.

[@ofercarmeli6508]

Great review. This is going to be my next watch. Rai II...

[@xlrider1565]

I own a Seiko PADI prospex Solar Diver, SNE-435. Absolutely ❤ the watch, and it is very accurate! I have seen the Orient Ray II, Gen.2, Dive Watch, with the Orange Dial, and am taken by the looks, and also the insane overall value, at around $200! I live in Honolulu, Hi. Do you ship to Hawaii? Do you have an Orange Dial Orient Ray II, Gen 2, Dive Watch in stock?

[@devind6020]

Not sure if I should go for one of these or a loreo submariner homage, which has sapphire crystal

[@samking4179]

13:15...also, all the hands are painted black as well. where as the blue and black silver case watches have silver hands. I think that even the rings around the hour markers are painted black vs silver on the other two. As a result of this the hands look smaller at a quick glance on the black ray 2 and the face of the watch looks as if it is larger...meaning, it looks as if the field area of the face is larger than it should be. it's simply an optical illusion because of all the black paint work on the hands and the hour indices. I have one of the ray 2's in black and it took me a bit but I figured out why the hands look smaller and different on my ray 2 than the way the hands look on my SKX007. the hands on my black SKX have the stock hands which are silver so they show up more with even just a little light on them because they reflect the light. not so with the ray 2 in black. small observation but significant nonetheless. can't wait to get a ray 2 in blue.

[@bsbabcock]

And there ya go.. That blacked out black face with the two stripe strap is what I've been looking for. Is that the AA02003B on your site? Would love to get a quote on that with that strap.

[@marinesr7]

Great video. Excellent suggestions. I like the mako with black strap!

[@nbigham1232]

Great video. Just bought the black ray.

[@commandZee]

Another good video! Marc, you should have also included your leather NATOs. I really like the ones you carry; they keep a clean edge. I have my pepsi Mako on the dark brown; looks so dapper.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you! Was trying to keep it simple; didn't want to go too much further.

[@meatrocket1]

I’m wondering if will look to big on my 6 1/2 inch wrist? Just asking ..if I buy one will you size it for me?

[@jasondismuke4837]

Just got my blue ray 2, and it's better looking in person.

[@islandwatch]

Sure is.

[@jaimebarr8426]

Excellent video! Great content. Keep up the good work!

[@mikestone9129]

Great video Marc. I really like the black Ray, gonna have to order one, from you of course.

[@davethebarber62920]

The black Ray Raven's bracelet and coating appears more dark grey than black. Still a nice looking watch.

[@islandwatch]

Quite stealthy.

[@ZeroGorDIE]

never liked dive watches, but wow they good impressive with those multitone straps!

[@dandaniel5225]

Thanks so much for your videos. Really made my deicision easy. Placing my order today. Please expedite! Lol I can't wait

[@vesselinkrastev]

I like the styling of the hands on the Mako better and also the Arabic numerals. But at the same time I prefer the bezel on the Ray.

[@wmh5135]

I got my ray black from amazon. Presentation in box was not the best. Then I noticed defective polished/ blushed links. Like it faded from blush to polish. I don’t want to send it back afraid of affecting my costumer record and new replacement can be worse. Is this kind of defect normal?

[@richardbosh4522]

Mako 2 Or Ray 2 Which one should I go with ? I heard and read and seen that they are both different in bracelet size 20mm and 22mm is that true ? and one has solid end links and the other doesnt is that true ? and the same with the lume that both are different lume is that true ? Please help want to make the right decision and purchase Thank you

[@mountainmanwatchreviews8081]

Just ordered the blue mako 2 from you. Really excited to get my first automatic watch. I had my heart set the skx009 but I really dig the blue on blue over the pepsi bezel. Got a navy blue perlon strap on the way for it as well.

[@islandwatch]

Sounds like it's gonna be great!

[@Metal-Joker]

Thank you for this significant video!! I really enjoyed it!!

[@256k_]

im so torn between the mako and the ray! i really love everything about the ray but i prefer the dial markers of the mako....

[@DD-ix3bm]

They're essentially the same watch minus a different bracelet and a different dial! I would say you should go with Mako!

[@ChattanoogaDan]

I couldn't make up my mind so I got a blue mako and a black ray. Two beautiful watches for around $275. That's a steal.

[@JungleEddie]

You talked me in to it. I ordered my Blue Ray II today. From your store on Amazon.ca.

[@JungleEddie]

The only thing that would make it better in my opinion is 'no date'.

[@JungleEddie]

It has arrived and I am a happy camper. Only slight size adjustment was necessary and no links were removed.. I am just glad my wrist wasn't too big.

[@Hermetic_]

Thanks for this review! Maybe a dumb question: How about changing the back, to display the movement?

[@jfrschnell]

this video is making hard my decision of what I am getting next around this price range! but that is good it means lots of choice

[@islandwatch]

LOL, great!

[@MinorVoices]

Hey Mark, nice reviewas always. Anyway, somebody told me that you should not put the watch sideways with the crown downwards because it puts some pressure on it, especialy if the watch is quite heavy and that'll somehow damage the movement overtime. Is it true? I saw you doing it and just had to ask. Thanks!

[@JosueRealty]

I can’t decide between blue or black!

[@allen31951]

I have both the Black Ray V1 and the Blue Ray V2. Both from Long Island Watch. Great watches. Question....the day pusher on the Black Ray doesn't screw down and lock so I frequently accidentally change the date. Is that how it is supposed to work or is that a flaw?

[@kyleweber1994]

It should screw down. I have a Mako V1 and the day pusher screws out really easily so I've found it unscrewed a few times.

[@allen31951]

Kyle Weber Thanks. Not sure why but mine will not screw down.

[@jhaverihonda4733]

which website did u buy the tan color leather strap from? loved the blue tan brown combo ...its fab ...

[@olivermerce]

The bezel is made of ceramic or PVD? Thanks!

[@TRANMEDIAVN]

hello, Is the hand size 16cm suitable for wearing this watch?

[@ayasolaris4971]

Thanks for the video Marc! I ordered the Ray 2 from your site :)

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@alexrebelrebel]

Amazing with those Nato straps!!!

[@romanhernz9209]

How much is a sapphire crystal for the Ray ll ?

[@DanboShaw]

Lovely watches, though I too would be interested in the USA versions (with sapphire crystal).

[@Fosi94]

Beautiful pieces!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks.

[@ReubenPsychol.]

Can you please explain what you said about not setting the date between 9pm and 3am?

[@kirkdarling4120]

The gearing that changes the day/date begin to engage the clockwork at 8 p.m. and fully disengage at 4 a.m. According to Orient, the day/date should not be changed during this period or the mechanism may be damaged! Apparently all automatic watches with day or date complications have this caution, although the period of disengagement may be shorter with watches that don't have dual-language day dials.

[@anthony-kk8mv]

Hi I have a Mako 2 orinet watch and was just wondering if the day charges on it own and how do u get that to work.

[@ian-wr1hk]

i believed skx will be my next watch but now after seeing this clip .. i like that orient ray.. how do you feel after having orient some time?? no regrets for guying one or??

[@27woz27]

Like from me.great lume shots.couldnt make my mind up of the two.the ray 2 does it for me in blue.because of the lumes.thanks for sharing.😀

[@voiceofexperience]

Started off as "Team Ray", but now find myself liking the Mako better...

[@islandwatch]

I'm a Ray guy myself.

[@lex-zq6nf]

Hi! Give me advice, what is the best buy for Mako 2, RAY II BLACK or RAY II BLACK PVD??? Thank you!